BBOTD Thursday 9th of February

[Aidymac]

:ok

[Aidymac]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February *Copper Canyon - Wolverhampton 4:05* Has only had 5 runs and has been off well over a year now, but was 2nd in three of those runs, 1 of which was over hurdles. On its only ever run at Wolverhampton it was 2nd, going down by a head to Mattoral. Still lightly raced, and interesting there has been a nibble in the market for it, as it is a risky proposition being off the track so long, but the market suggests it is fit and ready for a big run. *1 Point WIN @ 13/2 VC BOG*

[Bathtime For Rupert]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February 4.05 Wolverhampton - 1pt win Black Coffee @ 16/1 (PP) Will take a punt on this likeable type, who proved his love for this c&d last winter, when racking up 5 wins in 7 starts. He's dropped in the handicap a little since then, as he's been out of form, but I didn't think he shaped too badly on his most recent try, over a 1m4f trip which is too far for him. On the whole he struggled on the turf (did get one win to his name in the summer), and on his return to the all-weather in November, the Mark Brisbourne yard were bang out of form - registering 0-20 during the month. Things are still not going great for the team, but their runners are going with more encouragement of late, and now this one has been freshened up for a couple of months having been on the go for a long time, he can hopefully refind his spark around here. He needs a good pace and hopefully there's a fair chance of that with Fastnet Storm in the field, and he's capable of getting involved off this mark if returning to form. Tom McLaughlin takes the ride - his only one of the day - and hopefully he can time it to perfection on this late closer.

[chris34]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February 3.00 Wolverhampton Powerful Pierre ran his best race for a while last time out, not that badly handicapped on best form but best form has come over 6f! Form also not worked out from that 3rd last time out with both winner and 2nd let it down badly since. Muhandis has fallen a long way in the weights and doesnt look like cashing in on that yet, first time visor tried today showed nothing in visor or cheekpieces so probably a bit of a shot in the dark in this field. Mataajir has been in great form this winter, not been at best on recent starts and looks in the grip of the handicapper and unlikely to get soft time from a wide draw and not totally convinced the drop back to 7f the ideal move to try and beat the handicapper. Downhill Skier doesnt have a bad strike rate for a horse of his ability, not at best when last seen and is 4lb above last AW winning mark and does tend to go well with a few quick runs under his belt so might be in need of the run after a month on the sidelines, and although yard have had a winner they have been generally quiet. Spin Again appears to get on well with this female apprentice and was signs of a revival back in January, saddle slipped next time out and hassled upfront and did too much last time out so excuses since but unlikely to get an easy time upfront again today so probably opposable. Drive Home isnt a reliable sort but he did manage to win a weak handicap on his first run for over 100 days last time out, up 5lb for that effort but not an obvious one to back that run up given his profile and also that race was run at a slow pace although the 2nd has since won twice. Ace Master is another pace angle but has done all his winning around Southwell and been well held on all polytrack starts to date. Field Finner has been well held in 3 maidens not showing a huge amount and an opening mark 52 is probably fair on his handicap debut but running 2lb out of the handicap here and surely could have found a better opportunity than this to run off his mark proper. Lucky Dan hasnt won for over a year but is a class above these at his best. He won off a mark of 74 last January over 6f here in a class 4. He often gets going very late which has been the case on his last 2 starts but they are big improvements and clear signs he is returning to form, looks well worth a chance over 7f on that evidence and although not won over 7f he has raced well before over it and only had 4 tries at this trip in a 48 race career. Well drawn today in stall 2 today and should get a good tow into this race with plenty of pacemakers in the field and this is the first time he drops into a class 6 race since his 2yr old days and looks dangerous in this at a good price. 1pt win Lucky Dan 8/1 vc

[Edberg]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February 3.30 Wolverhampton Enjoy The Punters Package Group Offer Claiming Stakes Cl6 1m141y DR ALBERT @ 6/1 bog (Ladbrokes) Very poor race with just 5 runners. Crowning Star is the odds-on favourite at the moment with Clean Bowled settled as his main rival at 15/8 but none of them make such a special appeal at those short odds. Surely on paper those two horses have shown something better but on BHA adjusted figures Dr Albert has a bit in hand both with Crowning Star (3lb better than their current marks would suggest) and Clean Bowled (6lb) mainly thanks to the valuable 7lb claim of Darren Edward Egan, the apprentice jockey of the moment who won three races with his last 8 raiders within the last 5 days and all wins came here at Wolverhampton. Frank Sheridan's yard is in very good shape too since the former Italian trainer saddled two winners with his last 10 runners (all at this track) and one of them was a 50/1 shot wearing first time blinkers, exactly the same thing that's gonna happen today with Dr Albert. Sheridan loves it here and shows a £134 profit with his runners at the course. Dr Albert was not disgraced on his second of three starts over C&D and last time out (on Boxing Day) was outpaced in a 3-runner race with the classic prospect Harvard N Yale (rated 91 with Irish 2000 Guineas and Irish Derby entries and with a short-term project to go racing in the USA) and Prince Alzain (a 200,000 gns foal rated 89). A good break, first time blinkers, a very modest race, 7lb claim of the most in form jockey of the moment, Sheridan's super record at the track and very good form of late and a juicy 6/1 make this horse worth a bet.

[Lars]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February AD VITAM in my view is a 60 rated horse running off 48 here today and although he yet again faces a wide draw over 6f around Wolverhampton, he surely would have won from a similar poor draw with from one of his two efforts last November, those runs coming off higher marks. Although not in the best of form the past twice on his first two starts for this yard, they both had excuses and now back to what I feel his ideal trip, he can go really well if he puts his best foot forward. He’s a horse who I’ve been following seen his debut (looked like he might be a nursery horse after running OK on debut) but he struggled to do much in his early career, his two victories coming over a mile+ in selling or claiming company. His mark dwindled at a variety of trips (even tried at 11f on one occasion) but seemed to find his level in taking fashion four starts ago. Dropped to 6f for the first time in a year, he was given an extremely poor ride by an inexperienced claimer. Settled in the rear from the wide draw, he cut through the field on the bit in the home straight but ran into continued trouble after said jockey went for a couple of gaps that were never there. He did excellently to finish so close to the winners (2 lengths) given the amount of trouble in-running he faced, and looked a sure-fire winner at some stage over this trip. The next week he was drawn out wide yet again under the same jockey and was again given a poor ride, as she allowed the mount to get extremely wide and he never really stood a chance in the circumstances, again running well to finish 4.75 lengths back. Ad Vitam has subsequently moved to Micky Hammond and his two runs for this stable haven’t been the best, the first could be excused by the fact that he was coming off a short-break, and for a horse that seems to improve with racing, then it might not have been ideal. The selection was last seen a week ago when running over a much longer trip of the extended 1m1f. He faced continued interference towards the rear of the field and lost momentum on more than one occasion, leaving his jockey to be pretty easy on him in the closing stages. Although facing a big drop in trip today, he has an excellent chance I feel of proving that form all wrong today. Back to his ideal distance, with the blinkers removed and the visor reapplied (brought about the improvement towards the end of last year). The tongue tie is removed (both wins come with it applied) but he’s run well without it before, so that allievates that concern somewhat. Although a typical class 7 trappy contest, I genuinely believe that Ad Vitam is worth persisting with off such a low rating. Although the draw in stall 11/13 isn’t ideal, he’s handicapped to win this nicely and is such a big price at double-figure odds. Hopefully the temporary blip since joining this yard isn’t something more permanent but plenty looks set for a big run I feel and is worth a medium-sized investment. 17:40 Wolverhampton – Ad Vitam; 1pts @ 12/1 Bet365 (bog)

[smith17]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February 16:55 Meydan: African Story, 7/2 Bet365, 1pt win African Story won comfortably lto at Meydan, beating the re-opposing Barbecue Eddie by a length, over seven furlolngs. He steps up in trip here to a mile but has won before over that distance on fibresand and is two from two on a/w surfaces. The talented Mikael Barzalona is in the saddle. A lot depends on the fitness of Bold Silvano, who, if fully fit, should win this but he has been off the track for over a year because of injury and races over a mile for the first time.

[Boulder5111]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February W3.00 Drive Home 1pt Win 9/2 Ladbrokes I initially had this between DH and Muhandis but have sided with Drive Home (although Muhandis looks to have a decent chance if the first time visor does the trick). Drive Home at least has fewer question marks against it with a win last time out over course and distance. That was the first time B McHugh had ridden the horse and he's on board again today. He's a great jockey and has a really good stirke rate here. The horse back in 2nd on that victory has since gone in again twice off higher marks so the form looks good and the manner of that win suggests todays higher handicap mark might not be even to stop it going in again.

[anokazr]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February 2.35 Thurles Dare to Doubt Placing at the the top level consistently for ages, strong tendency to run better on soft or heavy ground, like me have here at thurles today, love willy mullins, and hes got the best on board. pretty confident. betfair 28/25

[corky]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February 1500 wolverhampton 1pt win drive home 4/1 bet365 has won 3 times over 7 furlongs including a course and distance last time out only 2 all weather starts, so it could be worth taking a chance that there is more to come on this surface

[daftpegasus]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February

2.35 Thurles Dare to Doubt Placing at the the top level consistently for ages, strong tendency to run better on soft or heavy ground, like me have here at thurles today, love willy mullins, and hes got the best on board. pretty confident. betfair 28/25

According to the rules exchange prices aren't allowed for this competition - best bookie price currently available is 11/10 at Bet365 :)

[daftpegasus]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February 15:00 Wolverhampton - Mataajir 4/1 at VCBet He managed 3 wins in a row at a combination of 7 & 8 furlongs late last year and then has been moved up to 9 & 11 furlong races. He placed in both 9 furlong runs so certainly has the stamina for todays ride back over 7F which will enable him to carry the additional few pounds that's been added since his last victory. Joe Fanning takes the ride again. Joe has a great record at Wolverhampton and is a course specialist. Hopefully he can get over the high draw and bring home the win.

[andyjkmak]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February 5.40 Wolves Bachelor Knight would have got a lot closer lto but for a very slow start. Was pulling a train throughout the race and got no luck in running( not helped by his amateur jockey). Has a proper jock up this time and races off the same mark in a lower grade race. Providing he breaks ok there is every chance he will do much better. Yet to win on this surface but showed it suited with that last run and is being backed already this morning. 1 Pt win 5/2 Bet365

[Edberg]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February Dr Albert NR so: 3.10 Thurles LAMB OR COD @ 7/4 bog (Bet365 and many more) Very good effort lto when faded just in the final furlong not so fluent over the last two hurdles to finish second behind the highly-regarded Argocat and 38L ahead of the third. That was his hurdling debut and he was third and fourth in his previous outs in bumper so surely has plenty of abilities to take a race like this where the only dangers look the Mullins-trained duo Hammersmith and Bold Banks but Hammersmith was too bad lto (back after a 33-month break) to be backed at these short odds even if he's dropping in trip with Ruby Walsh on and surely came on after that run while Bold Banks was well beaten when 4-7 fav in a bumper two years ago and his debut over hurdles came just 3 months ago and has been nothing special.

[andyjkmak]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February

Dr Albert NR so: 3.10 Thurles LAMB OR COD @ 7/4 bog (Bet365 and many more) Very good effort lto when faded just in the final furlong not so fluent over the last two hurdles to finish second behind the highly-regarded Argocat and 38L ahead of the third. That was his hurdling debut and he was third and fourth in his previous outs in bumper so surely has plenty of abilities to take a race like this where the only dangers look the Mullins-trained duo Hammersmith and Bold Banks but Hammersmith was too bad lto (back after a 33-month break) to be backed at these short odds even if he's dropping in trip with Ruby Walsh on and surely came on after that run while Bold Banks was well beaten when 4-7 fav in a bumper two years ago and his debut over hurdles came just 3 months ago and has been nothing special.

Seriously Edberg, I think you need a bit more reasoning than this...;):lol

[BillyHills]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February 200 Thurles: Gagewell Flyer (8/13 Bet Vic) BetVic are still 8/13 about this Mullins/Walsh horse, should be 1/2 on form. He contested the best novice hurdles all last season and won two Grade 2 events and ran at the Festival which is miles above any of the opposition has achieved. Not sure why he has been absent but this trainer will have schooled him well for his fencing debut. Mullins has the first 6 favourites one the card today and is sure to have one or two winners and I think this is the most obvious one. Backing odds on novice chasers isnt the best policy in the world but i'm struggling to find anything today on the AW.

[Lodge]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February 3.00 - Wolverhampton - Drive Home @ 9/2 Bet365 (BOG) A winner over C&D last time out, Drive Home should be able to defy a 5lb penatly and win again today. He seemed to run in fairly comfortably lto with 2nd place that day Crocodile Bay going on to win 2 twice subsequently. All 3 of his career wins are over todays distance and running for only the 3rd time on the AW there is definately scope for improvement.

[robertob]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February 5.30 Meydan: Master of Hounds @ 2/1 William Hill Second start for Micke De Kock today since switching the yards. The Ex- Aiden O'Brien colt gave a promising debut for South Africa's Champion trainer one month ago when he finished second to Musir. He ran particularly eye-catching that day when raced around 10 lengths off the pace in rear of the field so that he had to come wide around the home turn but still travelling very well. The bird was early flown as Musir was a class above the rest but MOH finished strongly. A really impressive performance, even more if you imagine that he was half a year off the track and ran over inadequate 8f. He looks to be in serious form and should improve from that run a lot as the step up in trip will very much in his favour as well today. He won only once in his career but he's still relatively lightly raced and I'm sure his record will rapidly improve under the care of M.D. Kock. Stable mate Hunting Tower should ensure a strong pace for MOH today so that the race will run under suitable conditions for Master of Hounds and despite some good opposition, mainly from Godolphin, It would be disappointment if he couldn't win today.

[wizzkid walter]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February 4:35 Wolverhampton - Al Freej - Back Another shorty today, hopefully this one obliges for me. Looks absolutely standout on his two 2nds thus far. Back down to 5f here loils a positive as he just seemed to run out of puff close home Leo. Best form on offer and surely breaks the maiden tag here 1pt win @ 1/5 Hills BOG

[kev2oo9]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February 3.30 Wolves - Mallt win at 33/1 Skybet Mcbride runs Mallt , rated 55 over in ireland and after 5 starts was sent over , seems to have a bit of a personality . LTO basically refused to race and this has happened another couple of times in ireland and once un-seated rider lol runs over the same trip of 8F as last time and martin lane still has the ride trainer is 4/18 in claimers and a further 4 places , 2/7 at track in same events with 2 places and last 3 runners in claimers here is 1-1-3 outsider of 4 but if it breaks from stalls fine then can go close

[switzerland]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February 3.30 Wolverhampton - Clean Bowled 1pt Win 7/4 PP Possibly a cliff horse for me but I think he's been unlucky on his last two starts and is better than his finishing position suggests. He has never won a race so he could be a horse that just tends to find trouble but I'll take a chance with him today in this small field. He has checkpieces on for the first time which could help him concentrate.

Clean Bowled 5.25 Wolv EW 9/1 most firms With the dead 8 I couldn't let Clean Bowled run without an interest. He got within 2 lengths of today's odds on favourite, Gabriel's King, lto. I thought Clean Bowled got a bit outpaced that day, had to race a bit wide but despite that he finished his race well. The extra furlong today should really suit. Not sure why they haven't stepped him up before now as the comments from his last race over 9f at Wolves read "outpaced over 2f out, stayed on inside final furlong". The favourite may well be more straightforward today and win but given that they meet on the same terms he's a value call at the prices. Fingers crossed there are no non-runners.

[Trotter]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February Wolv 4.35 - Superplex - ew at 8/1 bog bet365 Another 5 runner race here with 2 places at a quarter odds and I'm looking for an EW steal We have a 1/5 favourite who's coming back in trip, dwelt and ran green last time. He has the best form and should win but I'm not sure that 5 furlongs will be his trip. Not sure this small field will suit as he pulled hard last time. There's a chance he'll get going too late - there's at least some doubt there for a 1/5 shot ! My horse should really finish 2nd by beating the 3rd favourite who looks better over 6 furlongs. My horse looks an out and out 5 furlong type

[cpo]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February

4.20 Meydan Alkimos 1pt win 5/1 Bet365 I backed this horse last time out on his first start for Godolphin and he was very disappointing. Songcraft who re-opposes today beat him comfortably but Alkimos didn’t get the best of runs during the race and Frankie was very easy on him in the final couple of furlongs. I think with that run under his belt, he will be much better here. The step up in trip should suit him and Kieron Fallon gets the ride as Frankie is on Laajooj. This could be a blessing in disguise as Fallon rode this horse a few times when he was with Luca Cumani and may be able to get a little more out of the horse. Alkimos holds Laajooj on Royal Ascot running last year and is more likely to be suited by the step up in distance than Laajooj. Alkimos ran as well as he could IMO on ground softer than ideal at Royal Ascot and did well to get 2^nd behind Pisco Sour. Godolphin look to hold all the aces in this race with 3 strong runners but both Joshua Tree and Irish Flame could pose big threats. I do think Alkimos will come on plenty for that run and will improve for the step up in trip.

[Lars]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February

*Copper Canyon - Wolverhampton 4:05* Has only had 5 runs and has been off well over a year now, but was 2nd in three of those runs, 1 of which was over hurdles. On its only ever run at Wolverhampton it was 2nd, going down by a head to Mattoral. Still lightly raced, and interesting there has been a nibble in the market for it, as it is a risky proposition being off the track so long, but the market suggests it is fit and ready for a big run. *1 Point WIN @ 13/2 VC BOG*

Bit of a drift, thank god for best odds guaranteed :eek:ok Nice one

[cpo]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February

*Copper Canyon - Wolverhampton 4:05* Has only had 5 runs and has been off well over a year now, but was 2nd in three of those runs, 1 of which was over hurdles. On its only ever run at Wolverhampton it was 2nd, going down by a head to Mattoral. Still lightly raced, and interesting there has been a nibble in the market for it, as it is a risky proposition being off the track so long, but the market suggests it is fit and ready for a big run. *1 Point WIN @ 13/2 VC BOG*

Nice drift mate :ok

[Aidymac]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February Stewards Enquiry lads.. Nothing won yet. I have my bet won, but not BBOTD yet.

[best mate]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February

*Copper Canyon - Wolverhampton 4:05* Has only had 5 runs and has been off well over a year now, but was 2nd in three of those runs, 1 of which was over hurdles. On its only ever run at Wolverhampton it was 2nd, going down by a head to Mattoral. Still lightly raced, and interesting there has been a nibble in the market for it, as it is a risky proposition being off the track so long, but the market suggests it is fit and ready for a big run. *1 Point WIN @ 13/2 VC BOG*

Superb tipping. I'd have never have found that in a million years. Looks like today was the day for it as well!!

[Aidymac]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February Result stands. Phew :lol Cheers lads, what a drift lol... Just shows the market does not always get it right, and that form counts for something

[Falbrav]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February SUPERPLEX 4.35 Wolverhampton. 0.5 points each way. Looks a solid bet to finish in first 2, as although needs to find too much with the favourite on all known form, the small field will help us more and if settling in fine then we should be able to push the favourite all the way. We're also open to finding a little more on this surface and so at double figure odds would appear a bit of value. 8/1 Sporting bet.

[The Saint]

Re: BBOTD Thursday 9th of February

Result stands. Phew :lol Cheers lads, what a drift lol... Just shows the market does not always get it right, and that form counts for something

I'd say your about 6/4 to get an email from VC saying that you no longer qualify for BOG!! Nice aggressive punting!! Well played:p