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  1. Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Well from the 10 selections today 7 wins, 2 draws and 1 loss (Brentford) - so 70% for the wins only and 90% for the lay method which is about what we are running at and making a steady profit. I'll post the actual results later and remind you of these 2 for tommorrow.

    Date

    Premiership

    TP

    BG

    MW

    Odds

    26/02/06

    Bolton v Fulham

    49.4%

    58%

    2-1

    1.80 :hope

    26/02/06

    Liverpool v Man City

    64.2%

    67%

    1-0

    1.53 :hope

    26/02/06

    West Brom v Middlesbrough

    42.8%

    55%

    2-1

    :ok

  2. Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Whooooosh .........way over my tiny brain I'm afraid :loon But I'm glad that TP has some merits and it's a vital part of this thread. Any ideas how Betting Genius & Michael Wrays Spreadsheets are Calculated ? Is there an easy way to explain the various methodology in laymens terms ? :ok

  3. Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Thanks David, I must post that TP can sometimes change nearer Saturday - I'm surprised Reading arent auto picked but they are only out by 0.1% and that may change - If it does I'll update and amend all selections. Also If you're laying these and the selections are too many - lay the ones by the 2 clear goals or more MW ratings.

  4. Re: Michael Wray Spreadsheet system Merlin, I have these extra to you Championship

    07-Feb-06

    Leeds United

    Crystal Palace

    18-Feb-06

    Preston North End

    Crewe Alexandra

    League 2

    28-Jan-06

    Leyton Orient

    Barnet

    11-Feb-06

    Rochdale

    Barnet

    15-Feb-06

    Boston United

    Chester City

    You have listed is this a typo ? Leyton O v Barnsley

    Rochdale v BarnsleyCheers

  5. Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Hi Cavelloman, Thanks for you're input - That's some impressive figures & statistics you've got there - I certainly agree that value is the way to go with any system. The method that we're following on this thread uses a combination of 3 predictors to average out any inbuilt bias of just one. For example for selecting home wins only - TP on it's own is proving to be 56% succesful - whereas the combination is 65% succesful. For selecting "double chance" - TP is 85% the combination 93%. It typically throws out around 8 selections on a weekend - I would be very interested to see the value of the selections chosen if you are willing to have a look back in later. I hope to get them listed tonight :ok

  6. Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Hi DavidC, Thanks for the tip off I hadn't noticed the inverter :ok I've added the formula above into an excel spreadsheet I use for tracking all the selections. So far it works out that "laying the away" beats "double chance" by 3-5% on average - which is a fair amount by the end of the season. But occasionally the "double chance" works out the better bet. For the system to work we need around an 80% strike rate - so far it's averaging 93%.

  7. Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Well 2 close matches for the system but profitable again nonetheless (depending on how you backed them)

    Date

    LDV Vans Trophy

    TP

    BG

    MW

    Result

    21/02/06

    Carlisle v Macclesfield

    58%

    51%

    2-0

    2-1

    Date

    Premiership

    TP

    BG

    MW

    Result

    22/02/06

    Newcastle v Charlton

    53.1%

    60%

    2-1

    0-0

    I'll report back with the weekends fixtures later :ok

  8. Re: 1% 'Steady Drip' Hi Hodgey, excellent thread :clap and great fun :hope with bet 18 but I don't think you'll need it. It was little old me who suggested splitting the pot at £100 - One of the reasons for suggesting this is because how much can you actually lay at what are unlikely results ? - laying £700 at the end of the year on one event could prove difficult.

  9. Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. You may well be right Merlin old friend - but Charlton haven't the best away form on record - in their last 6 games away they've scored only 5 and let in 14 - Newcastle at home have scored 7 and conceeded 4. Personally I think MW's got it about right 2-1 or 1-1 :hope

  10. Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Hi LL, Yep last minute goal - I had layed Macclesfield and was fearing a goal the other way - but another for the system :ok David - yep I'm a bit concerned over Newcastle but I wouldn't have picked a number of the ones the system does so I've learnt to trust it - having said that I've layed Charlton so the draw is covered :loon

  11. Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Ok - I've been looking into "laying the away" method of backing the selections - and as previously reported the drawback is the amount of bank needed for a reasonable stake - not so bad for the midweek - but with 5-8 selections on a Saturday the bank needs to be quite large. There is an alternative called "double chance" which does the same thing only you are backing (1x) so the bank needed is only the stake amount. I've been using bestbetting to look into the best odds available - "double chance" seems to be only available at bet365, ladbrokes or sportingodds. Convienient - but how do you know which method is VALUE ? Obviously you pick the best odds of the 3 companies offering "double chance"above but to compare with laying on betfair - here's the calculation. Lets use the Carlisle v Macclesfield selection above as an example :- Best Odds are 1.62 - 4.0 - 6.35 (after commision) Lets call these odds A, B, C using an arb calculation on A & B to find (1x) A/(A+B) then B/(A+B) = 0.288 & 0.712 0.288 x B = 1.152 0.712 x A = 1.153 So the best odds for the 1x double chance is 1.15 sportingodds have the double chance 1x at 1.14 which is very good as the prices above are the best prices from different bookies. But what about laying on betfair the calculation is this 1+ (1/(C-1)) so in our example to lay macclesfield would be 1.187 There you go simple :loon I've noticed that sometimes the double chance oidds offered are very good :ok

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