[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Hi Sbi, Welcome to the thread and thanks for the kind words - I know from reading your own threads that you're a professional punter so it's a big compliment to have you give the thumbs up. I've tried to level the playing field in comparing the staking plans - the win only and cover the draw are 1 point stakes and the lay the away is to a fixed 1 point liability - I thought this was the fairest way to compare all 3 of the methods. Total selections so far have been 97 - the box refered to above shows the results after 96 selections - strike rate is 91%. Just finalising the table for this weekend - back later :ok

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. A nice midweek winner to get us back on track - short odds but they all count.

F A Cup	TP	BG	MW	Result
Chelsea v Newcastle	75.5%	68%	3-0	1-0 :clap

:ok

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Only 1 selection for the midweek :-

Date	Championship	TP	BG	MW	Odds
21/03/06	Leeds v Crystal Palace	36.8%	48%	1-2

Date	League 1	TP	BG	MW	Odds
21/03/06	Bradford v Blackpool	50.0%	27%	1-2
21/03/06	Doncaster v Colchester	42.4%	47%	1-0
21/03/06	Gillingham v Brentford	34.8%	28%	1-2
21/03/06	Walsall v Yeovil	47.8%	39%	0-2

Date	League 2	TP	BG	MW	Odds
21/03/06	Bury v Oxford	34.6%	38%	1-1
21/03/06	Cheltenham v Wrexham	41.8%	38%	2-2
22/03/06	Boston v Northampton	34.9%	44%	1-2

Date	Cup Matches	TP	BG	MW	Odds
21/03/06	Birmingham v Liverpool	15.1%	50%	2-2
22/03/06	Chelsea v Newcastle	75.5%	68%	3-0	1.28:hope
23/03/06	Charlton v Middlesboro	44.1%	43%	2-1

:ok

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. No selections for today - although Man City v West Ham could possibly be BG & MW go for it but TP isn't showing any figures for the match :wall

[Fleet's UK Footie Trebles]

Re: Football: Fleet's Trebles Hi FF, Nicely done again - do you have any figure for the Southampton v Watford match tonight ? :ok

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. If there is any consolation from the defeats this weekend they were all scuppered by just 1 goal - a 1-2 on friday and three 0-1's as above. We are into unknown territory with the end of season struggles, hopefully we will pull through though. I found out after that Man City were fielding a "protective" side in preperation for their Monday FA Cup Match as were West Ham - maybe worth doing a little homework after the selections have been picked :ok

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Had a look at your site Muppet - very impressive :ok But I have to tell you that this method is now Patented - any fuuny stuff and I'll set Merlin on you :loon

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Ok here are the updated results over the course of 96 matches.

Home Win only	Cover the Draw	Lay the Away
61% Strike Rate	91% Strike Rate	91% Strike Rate
3.34% Yield	7.5% yield	11.25% Yield
3.24 Points Profit	7.25 Points	10.91 Points:clap

Lay the away is still double the bank :ok

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Hi Muppet The figure above are for 88 games, I will update the results and the figures later but 95 selections now after this weekend. :ok

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Now off out just got time to list todays matches no system selection but Fulham don't look good if you know what I mean........

Date	Premiership	TP	BG	MW	Odds
19/03/06	Newcastle v Liverpool	21.0%	67%	1-0
19/03/06	Fulham v Chelsea	14.7%	42%	1-2

Never seen figures like those for the Newcastle match very divided the predictors are .... just about sums up the weekend :loon

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. So that's who it was then :loon Not a good weekend for the system I'll update with the results and the bank later. Did I say I hated Wigan before .............

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. What he said ..................:loon

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Well a loser last night after 20 winners in a row - I guess you could say we were due one but still disappointing.

Date	League 1	TP	BG	MW	Odds
17/03/06	Swansea v Brentford	41.0%	29%	3-2	2-1
17/03/06	Tranmere v Walsall	49.3%	48%	2-0	1-2:wall

Will post todays selections up very soon :ok

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Ok 1 selection for tonight - I've got the table done for the weekend but as TP can change I'll post later tonight.

Date	League 1	TP	BG	MW	Odds
17/03/06	Swansea v Brentford	41.0%	29%	3-2
17/03/06	Tranmere v Walsall	49.3%	48%	2-0	1.72:hope

Which ever staking method you choose (horses 4 courses) both have doubled the bank and we didnt even get a mention on the banner :cry :@ :loon

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Funnily enough I looked into whether this system would make a profit by just backing the draws and believe it or not it would - but you would have gone bankrupt twice in the process. I believe it boils down to how you view risk and whether you want to get all the profit you can out of the system - in the end laying is more efficient but the ride is bumpier. DP's excellent hot favorites thread is a good example - because he deals in very short odds the loss is large when he hits one but he always comes out ahead. Whatever method you choose I recommend that the draw is covered somehow :ok

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Well you made me have to do it didn't you :loon I've just rewritten my excel spreadsheet to "cover the draw" to see if that was any better - this basically does what it says on the tin - places just enough on the draw to return the stake and let the wins give the profit. The results are impressive but as I keep saying :spank the lay method is more efiicient.

Home Win only	Cover the Draw	Lay the Away
64% Strike Rate	94% Strike Rate	94% Strike Rate
5.83% Yield	12.2% yield	14.29% Yield
5.19 Points Profit	10.82 Points	12.71 Points

Pick your Poison :ok

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. TF - Thanks mate, but you have to do what is comfortable to you. I'll have to check on the win only strike rate for selection under 1.4 But to me laying is the most profitable way - remember it also covers the draw so the odds are lower than win only but the strike rate is greater. The best double chance odds on 1x on last nights match was 1.04 but laying at 12.0 = 1.09 thats a big difference over the course of a season. No selections for tonight :ok

[Under 2.5 goals system]

Re: Under 2.5 goals system Hi SBI - I've just trawled through a lengthy calculation to see if backing the 6 winning scores would prove better value :- 0-0, 1-0, 0-1, 1-1, 2-0, 0-2 and it doesnt :loon the odds work out to be 1.75 to your 1.798 No idea why that should be but does is in tonights match ?

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Ho Hum :dude

Date	Premiership	TP	BG	MW	Result
15/03/06	Liverpool v Fulham	78.1%	69%	2-0	5-1:clap :clap

Date	League 2	TP	BG	MW	Result
15/03/06	Oxford v Bristol Rovers	46.9%	16%	0-2	1-0

Date	FA Cup	TP	BG	MW	Result
15/03/06	West Ham v Bolton	31.6%	48%	1-2	1-1

Thought 5-1 deserved a double clap !!! Banking details to follow but 3/3 for the midweek picks.

[1% 'Steady Drip']

Re: 1% 'Steady Drip' :eek your riskiest selection too date :eek :loon :loon :loon :loon :loon :loon :loon :loon :loon :loon :loon

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. TF - Laying at 12.0 is equal to 1/11 = 1.09 for covering home & draw. Betfair have it as down 1.04 for the double chance 1x and they are the best odds on offer :eek You can always lay the draw at lower odds - it's in play so you can always cover yourself ;)

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. Hi Dac, :rollin It's nowhere near as bad as it sounds :rollin If you've got a few minutes read through the thread from the start as the system has morphed into the current table selection method. the TP column must read >= 48 the BG column must read >= 48 the MW column must be a home win scoreline. when all 3 align it's a selection the odds are just there for interest. TF - it will be there under systems & strategies but a little way back now I would imagine.

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. And another for tomorrow night :-

Date	Premiership	TP	BG	MW	Odds
15/03/06	Liverpool v Fulham	78.1%	69%	2-0	1.36:hope

Date	League 2	TP	BG	MW	Odds
15/03/06	Oxford v Bristol Rovers	46.9%	16%	0-2

Date	FA Cup	TP	BG	MW	Odds
15/03/06	West Ham v Bolton	31.6%	48%	1-2

Poor odds but they all add up.

[Times Newspaper Predictor.]

Re: Times Newspaper Predictor. TF, Thanks for the links I'll have a look at those :ok FF, Nice to see you looking in on the TP thread I keep a close eye on yours :loon 2 more winners tonight to add to the collection :zzz

Date	FA Cup	TP	BG	MW	Result
14/03/06	Man City v Aston Villa	50.5%	54%	3-1	2-1:clap

Date	Championship	TP	BG	MW	Result
14/03/06	Preston v Ipswich	55.9%	59%	2-1	3-1:clap

Date	League 1	TP	BG	MW	Results
14/03/06	Rotherham v Oldham	48.4%	32%	1-2	2-0
14/03/06	Scunthorpe v Hartlepool	49.9%	29%	1-0	2-0

Date	League 2	TP	BG	MW	Results
14/03/06	Macclesfield v Wrexham	25.5%	30%	1-2	3-2
14/03/06	Rochdale v Grimsby	37.9%	27%	1-1	0-0

:drums

[Under 2.5 goals system]

Re: Under 2.5 goals system You got the mojo working for this SBI :clap are you backing or laying with this method ?