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Sometimes it's just not your day. And when you hear Brecel saying he was ill and then that he didn't like the attention that came with being World Champion and then comments about being glad he's lost so the spotlight is off him, you know it was never going to be your day. It was interesting when he spoke about being ill where he said he probably would have pulled out at another tournament, but because this is such a big tournament he felt he had to play. Apparently though it's not big enough to try to overturn one snooker in a deciding frame.

No words for that from Brecel. Both the shots played and missed during the collapse at the end and then throwing in the towel with one snooker needed. 

No words for that from Brecel. Both the shots played and missed during the collapse at the end and then throwing in the towel with one snooker needed. 

I say, are you Fred Elliott by any chance!
I can answer for him (and myself); no as they're a bunch of risk averse barstewards who long since escorted us off the premises.

Having checked the prices, I'll have a small bet on Page at 400's. If he beats O'Sullivan then his odds collapse and I can't see why that isn't possible. Ronnie isn't infallible, and if he is to fall then the chances are it's early.

Having checked the prices, I'll have a small bet on Page at 400's. If he beats O'Sullivan then his odds collapse and I can't see why that isn't possible. Ronnie isn't infallible, and if he is to fall then the chances are it's early.

Having checked the prices, I'll have a small bet on Page at 400's. If he beats O'Sullivan then his odds collapse and I can't see why that isn't possible. Ronnie isn't infallible, and if he is to fall then the chances are it's early.

First time I've been called a "celebrity", I like it
 

They're giving you special "celebrity" treatment because of your high profile role on here! 
Not as daft an idea as it might sound if we subscribe to the occasionally mooted notion that "they" are watching us (I'm sure Kevin Pullein was only able to get lumpy bets on because of who he was while those who followed him struggled to get a fiver on his selections) but perhaps just good fortune in this instance. I too had only heard negative stuff other than your experience.

Yep I'm doing alright, made £1,600 and withdrawn £1,000 without any hassle but the treatment of @Capecross seems apalling

been plenty of bad stories on social media about them although I do know @MCLARKE had a good spin with them
 

Bet 52 won. Next stake £2675.22

He might generally be priced closer to fair from now on which might make me consider the value has gone and he might not be priced up in 3 figures as often anyway. I was more thinking about the actual availability of odds of 100/1 plus but I was also conscious of how much shorter he was generally this week (“only” 100/1 and only in 1 place).

Why one last throw @harry_rag it could still be a worthwhile bet in future - whether it lands or not this time shouldn't necessarily make any difference to whether you back him again.

Too short a festival. I prefer to play my way in for the first 3 days then blitz the winners on the last day. Well done the winner and anyone who finished in the black (or on better than -£9 to be fair).
Cheers to Zil for running it with his customary skill, grace and wit. 😎

The dog watcher holds on for the win.
Calvas late surge falls short as does Mrjol in 3rd
Special mention to @harry_rag who also took part but contributed little else apart from ensuring the accuracy of Grammar the pedantic B'stard. 👨‍🎓 😁🤣

What's impressive about these Harry, is all your top 10 made the cut. That is some doing mate. Nice work indeed.

It's 9, 10, 11 or 12 legs with doubles, trebles and upwards covered. Two wins give a return. Could be a way for you to include more matches.

Not sure if those two are the only winners you’ve hit so far from 60 selections. If so, there’s obviously a huge amount of good fortune in them being in the same bet. I’d be noting all the individual winners to monitor the returns to level stakes singles. If you’re able to beat the odds backing as singles then it suggests the Yankee approach will be profitable long term and you just need to be patient. If not, then your long term expectation is negative barring a huge slice of good fortune.
I appreciate that it’s largely a bit of fun with a tilt at a big payout but it wouldn’t be that much effort to keep a note of the odds of any winning selections.

Nice couple of wins there. Are these still worth doing now that bore draw and leg bonuses have been removed?

I've hit three before. Never four. Best of luck going forward and it'll be interesting to see whether you can make it pay.

I've also been blocked.
It is another reason why I think all my bets will end up on the exchanges.
I will only bet with a bookmaker if it's best odds on oddschecker, with profit margins being tight it can make all the difference.

I post Speed figures now and again, the reason is simple enough, the bookies are watching, i suggested that to Micheal once and he didn't believe me, i think he might believe me now. As for P/L i posted for 1 month in 3 consecutive years 1 of which was profit for singles and pretty much evens for L15's the other two years, both were in profit on both counts. I left the daily grind behind from last November (see thread on November 17th  Time to Give up the Daily Grind.  So now just rate to suit when it suits.

Its even confusing me a bit to be honest but the proof will be in the pudding come ascot, i for example will be using pure speed figures with very little else taken into account i do this because my experience tells me that is what i must do. If your firing in more and more angles you can soon get away from the point of speed figures and end up back with form. I will be particularly interested in the combinations of the figures if @Trotter doesn't fancy it i will use Stop Watch of the RP as the 3rd man if he does play i will look at the different combinations of the 4 players. Either way it will be an interesting exercise. Personally i think the ground being good or GF will be key to accuracy.

I didn't expect to make a profit but I was a little surprised and a tad disappointed that the returns were worse than just betting randomly.
However I think that most punters make a bet based on the last run of the horse so good last runs are probably overbet.
There is still a lot more analysis to do (I have another 10 years of raw data to clean and analyse) and also I will look at the results of all the runs after the speed figure was obtained. The saying that form is temporary but class is permanent may well be relevant here.