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    GENERAL RACING CHIT CHAT

    in At The Races - Racing Forum

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    2 minutes ago, Alley Cat Glover said:

    I sort of understand that but he was 9l closer to the same horse Rebel Soldier Boy in both races racing on the same terms I think, so would the handicapper not look at that?

    I see that Rebel Soldier Boy has only been put up 1lb for winning that class 6 maiden

    I just don't think the handicapper will be putting a horse back up in the weights for not winning a class 6 maiden no matter how close he was to the winner ....... particularly a horse who's form in handicaps indicates that his mark is far too high already and really needs to keep falling until it reaches a level he can be competitive off

    I think there's also a tendency not to put horses up for non-winning runs in maidens, novices and conditions races because they don't want to discourage trainers from entering them in those races

     

    GENERAL RACING CHIT CHAT

    in At The Races - Racing Forum

    Posted

    I go through periods of betting and not betting but when I am betting I just bet the same stake on every selection

    My reasoning is that I'd rather spend the time trying to find a winner than worrying about how much to put on

    For the same reason I only have one betting account ....... I don't want to spend time flitting around sites or getting stuck on an odds comparison site waiting for odds to change

    I guess it depends what you're in it for and betting has never been my main interest ...... I like looking at the races as puzzles to work out and get enjoyment from doing the puzzle and hopefully getting the answer right. Don't think I've had a bet on a horse for 2 years

    I'm currently losing money on football  ....... should really get back to the horses !

     

    GENERAL RACING CHIT CHAT

    in At The Races - Racing Forum

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    49 minutes ago, Alley Cat Glover said:

    Was going to ask the question in Racing Syndicates but perhaps more relevant here. My Friend Stan run in a handicap off 75 and was dropped 3lbs to 72 after finishing 7l 4th with a performance rating of 66. Next race was a maiden where again he finished 4th 10l behind Rebel Soldier Boy. Next race he finished 1l behind the same rival at Catterick in another maiden. Now I was expecting his handicap rating to go up on Tuesday but it was unchanged. Now I thought every race was analysed and ratings were adjusted the following week. So my question is are maidens excempt from this? If not why did his rating remain unchanged when he was 9l closer.

    Just looking at the horse's form in the Racing Post the obvious factor is that the second maiden race was a Class 6 whereas the first one was a Class 5. In other words it was a worse race on paper so the handicapper would have expected the horse to finish closer to the front

    He's been well beaten in handicaps off 82, 80, 77. Now he's on 72 and the direction of travel is downwards without showing much sign that he's capable of winning a handicap off this kind of mark

    The handicapper wouldn't be putting him back up for getting beaten in a low grade maiden

     

     

    £20 Daily Challenge - All Welcome

    in At The Races - Racing Forum

    Posted

    9 hours ago, Trotter said:

    bank 721.06

    (going through another spell where my bank is dropping like a stone .... I think at one time I was up around 1600.00 )

    Anyway, keep plugging away !

    Uttox 2.10 - Minella warrior 6/4 and Young Wolf 2/1 (WON 85/40)
    Pont 3.20 - Dark Vision Evs (WON) and Wadisafa 10/3
    Sand 7.00 - Indigo Lake 13/8 and Arthurian Fable 7/2 (WON)

    prices bet365

    try some 'BH Trebles' for a change

    8 x 2.50 trebles .

     

    Fortunately a couple of the bigger priced ones won ......... just working out in my head that if the 3 favourites had won it would have been the equivalent of an Evens win for the £20 which doesn't sound very good for getting a treble. You've basically got to get a 7/1 treble to get your stakes back. So a bet like this you certainly don't want to be picking odds on shots !

    Anyway the return was 70.31, profit 50.31, bank now 771.37

    Racing Chat - Thursday July 23rd

    in At The Races - Racing Forum

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    I've been looking at a few of today's races and a common dilemma has cropped up whereby you've eliminated most of the horses but you're left with two and can't really separate them. You look at the form, todays' race conditions, all the usual factors and when it comes down to it the only thing differentiating them is the price ....... one will be a shorter price than the other and there doesn't seem to be any real reason as to which one it is

    So on that basis pick the biggest price of the two

    So today's selections ... 

    2.10 Uttox - Young Wolf 9/4
    3.20 Ponty - Wadisafa 11/4
    7.00 Sand - Arthurian Fable 7/2

    prices bet365

    The 'other' horses in each race are the 3 favourites - Dark Vision, Minella Warrior and Indigo Lake

    £20 Daily Challenge - All Welcome

    in At The Races - Racing Forum

    Posted

    bank 721.06

    (going through another spell where my bank is dropping like a stone .... I think at one time I was up around 1600.00 )

    Anyway, keep plugging away !

    Uttox 2.10 - Minella warrior 6/4 and Young Wolf 2/1
    Pont 3.20 - Dark Vision Evs and Wadisafa 10/3
    Sand 7.00 - Indigo Lake 13/8 and Arthurian Fable 7/2

    prices bet365

    try some 'BH Trebles' for a change

    8 x 2.50 trebles

     

    Racing Chat - Monday July 20th

    in At The Races - Racing Forum

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    2 hours ago, Trotter said:

    Having a look at the summer jumpers for a change !

    2.10 MR - 3 mile handicap hurdle - Putting Green - win at 11/1 Ladbrokes

    I like the look of Putting Green who's won over the trip, has a couple of wins at a similar track (perth) acts on the good going. He's 5lbs higher than his last win which doesn't seem insurmountable. Main doubt is that he hasn't run since last October but the trainer has sent out 3 winners from his last 5 runners so hopefully the team is fit

    what a bummer ........ I spent ages on that race and now my horse is a non runner !

    ?

    sod it, I'll have a day off and watch the cricket !

    Racing Chat - Monday July 20th

    in At The Races - Racing Forum

    Posted

    Having a look at the summer jumpers for a change !

    2.10 MR - 3 mile handicap hurdle - Putting Green - win at 11/1 Ladbrokes

    I like the look of Putting Green who's won over the trip, has a couple of wins at a similar track (perth) acts on the good going. He's 5lbs higher than his last win which doesn't seem insurmountable. Main doubt is that he hasn't run since last October but the trainer has sent out 3 winners from his last 5 runners so hopefully the team is fit

    Racing Chat - Tuesday July 14th

    in At The Races - Racing Forum

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    4 hours ago, Trotter said:

    Three group races at Longchamp this afternoon ........ bit of a shame though that hardly anyone has turned up to run. 

    With some non runners there's now only 13 horses in total between the 3 races

    But there's British interest in each race .... 

    1.00 - Volkan Star for Charlie Appleby and William Buick, odds on Fav at 4/9
    1.35 - Trefoil for Ralph Beckett and Frankie, 5/1
    3.25 - Red Verdun for Ed Dunlop and Frankie 4/1

     

    2-1 to the En-ger-lund !

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