Zilzalian

Feel free to add a horse and a brief reason.
Harrys Bar Meydan11th Feb Ran very well from a very bad draw.
Enemy        Meydan 18th Feb a unusually fast run race and thus speed figure won by the hugely impressive Manobo. Enemy came from a mile back and met a bit of obstruction to finish 4th at 66/1 stepped up to 1m6f for the first time by Ian Williams, (formerly trained in France by F Graffard) If it doesn't win here at Meydan it is one for the notebooks when returning to the UK.

Baratti A Fabre, Chantilly on its first run of the year (1st march) from what the commentator and betting said before the race will come on for the run.
It duly won with ease.

I suppose one issue with this is knowing which horse is going to be favourite, in the 1.45 Full Time Score was only favourite at the off.

The race was decided as soon as Tone the Barone missed a beat at the start ,,One night stand got an uncontested lead ,,Strong powers strength has been coming off a contested early pace ,,think he proved himself well up to listed class in the circumstances,,he’ll have another day 

Well for me its quite simple, I personally think weight is well over-rated and I am a speed figure man I have my own formula and I back my judgement win lose or draw i live with it. I rarely back any horse below 8/1 my average that many would have heart attacks with is around 16/1 - 33/1 the price never puts me off, I very rarely do EW either which some would argue is crazy but what I do works for me and I make a healthy profit (last year I didn't to be honest, I lost 3 quid on betting turnover of over 15 grand) If you look at this race as a pro would you would be stuck between any one of 4 but apart from Mondammej (5/1) your not getting 4/1 for 3 of them lets be honest non are prolific winners that's got to be grim in my book, I'm going to be well hard and also do the r/forecast with one night stand. none of what I say means Strong Power will win no such thing as a cert but i would rather go down on a 9/1 shot than any one of 3 at  3/1 or less. It will be interesting if nothing else. My max bet is £50, my average is £30 on my speed figure bets. i have had just 3 £100 bets in 3 years 2 won one lost that loser was on a very rare for me favourite. I do however respect and understand your reasoning.

Likewise my solution is i never have the sound on, works a treat for me.

Since I jacked in Racing TV a few months ago I'm having to watch ITV Racing 
I haven't watched terrestrial TV coverage for 10 years or more and there's something 'new' (to me) that I find annoying ...... it's this idea of stopping commentary mid-race so the commentator can have a chat with whoever the presenters are 
Could they not have a chat after the race has finished ?
grrrrrrrrrr .............

Intriguing race indeed last nights outsider wins strong power 3rd that buggered my forecast up a tad. but hey ho i could have gone down on the favs like many did. what do you think interesting eh?

Well for me its quite simple, I personally think weight is well over-rated and I am a speed figure man I have my own formula and I back my judgement win lose or draw i live with it. I rarely back any horse below 8/1 my average that many would have heart attacks with is around 16/1 - 33/1 the price never puts me off, I very rarely do EW either which some would argue is crazy but what I do works for me and I make a healthy profit (last year I didn't to be honest, I lost 3 quid on betting turnover of over 15 grand) If you look at this race as a pro would you would be stuck between any one of 4 but apart from Mondammej (5/1) your not getting 4/1 for 3 of them lets be honest non are prolific winners that's got to be grim in my book, I'm going to be well hard and also do the r/forecast with one night stand. none of what I say means Strong Power will win no such thing as a cert but i would rather go down on a 9/1 shot than any one of 3 at  3/1 or less. It will be interesting if nothing else. My max bet is £50, my average is £30 on my speed figure bets. i have had just 3 £100 bets in 3 years 2 won one lost that loser was on a very rare for me favourite. I do however respect and understand your reasoning.

Well for me its quite simple, I personally think weight is well over-rated and I am a speed figure man I have my own formula and I back my judgement win lose or draw i live with it. I rarely back any horse below 8/1 my average that many would have heart attacks with is around 16/1 - 33/1 the price never puts me off, I very rarely do EW either which some would argue is crazy but what I do works for me and I make a healthy profit (last year I didn't to be honest, I lost 3 quid on betting turnover of over 15 grand) If you look at this race as a pro would you would be stuck between any one of 4 but apart from Mondammej (5/1) your not getting 4/1 for 3 of them lets be honest non are prolific winners that's got to be grim in my book, I'm going to be well hard and also do the r/forecast with one night stand. none of what I say means Strong Power will win no such thing as a cert but i would rather go down on a 9/1 shot than any one of 3 at  3/1 or less. It will be interesting if nothing else. My max bet is £50, my average is £30 on my speed figure bets. i have had just 3 £100 bets in 3 years 2 won one lost that loser was on a very rare for me favourite. I do however respect and understand your reasoning.

Yes you are indeed correct he didn't initially adjust for weight however he did concede and started to re-evaluate his thinking eventually. I think one of the distinctions must be made between pattern races and handicaps i think we can all agree that you can't keep putting weight on a horse forever, common sense tells us that. What i am saying here is for pattern races don't adjust for weight but in handicaps you must give it due consideration. Mordin was a very clever man (i wont say genius) and a good thinker. I have his book here somewhere and i used to collect all those System articles he used to write in the sporting life (i miss that publication) weekender.

Yes you are indeed correct he didn't initially adjust for weight however he did concede and started to re-evaluate his thinking eventually. I think one of the distinctions must be made between pattern races and handicaps i think we can all agree that you can't keep putting weight on a horse forever, common sense tells us that. What i am saying here is for pattern races don't adjust for weight but in handicaps you must give it due consideration. Mordin was a very clever man (i wont say genius) and a good thinker. I have his book here somewhere and i used to collect all those System articles he used to write in the sporting life (i miss that publication) weekender.

Yes you are indeed correct he didn't initially adjust for weight however he did concede and started to re-evaluate his thinking eventually. I think one of the distinctions must be made between pattern races and handicaps i think we can all agree that you can't keep putting weight on a horse forever, common sense tells us that. What i am saying here is for pattern races don't adjust for weight but in handicaps you must give it due consideration. Mordin was a very clever man (i wont say genius) and a good thinker. I have his book here somewhere and i used to collect all those System articles he used to write in the sporting life (i miss that publication) weekender.

Well for me its quite simple, I personally think weight is well over-rated and I am a speed figure man I have my own formula and I back my judgement win lose or draw i live with it. I rarely back any horse below 8/1 my average that many would have heart attacks with is around 16/1 - 33/1 the price never puts me off, I very rarely do EW either which some would argue is crazy but what I do works for me and I make a healthy profit (last year I didn't to be honest, I lost 3 quid on betting turnover of over 15 grand) If you look at this race as a pro would you would be stuck between any one of 4 but apart from Mondammej (5/1) your not getting 4/1 for 3 of them lets be honest non are prolific winners that's got to be grim in my book, I'm going to be well hard and also do the r/forecast with one night stand. none of what I say means Strong Power will win no such thing as a cert but i would rather go down on a 9/1 shot than any one of 3 at  3/1 or less. It will be interesting if nothing else. My max bet is £50, my average is £30 on my speed figure bets. i have had just 3 £100 bets in 3 years 2 won one lost that loser was on a very rare for me favourite. I do however respect and understand your reasoning.

Got to agree with you about Strong Power, those 3 speed figures topped by the track record in one of them reads really well and is a max bet for me.

Squeaky bum time at the top......

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Feel free to add a horse and a brief reason.
Harrys Bar Meydan11th Feb Ran very well from a very bad draw.
Enemy        Meydan 18th Feb a unusually fast run race and thus speed figure won by the hugely impressive Manobo. Enemy came from a mile back and met a bit of obstruction to finish 4th at 66/1 stepped up to 1m6f for the first time by Ian Williams, (formerly trained in France by F Graffard) If it doesn't win here at Meydan it is one for the notebooks when returning to the UK.

Anyone else noticed De Boinville at Wincanton for just one ride for Henderson Monte Cristo (one for Symonds 33/1 outsider)?

Im always sceptical when they (especially WH) offer a "special"

A few observations from today at Meydan,
firstly           This prat failed to include and back "Appreciated"
secondly      The 11/2 I got for Lord Glitters negated any costs for today
thirdly           one for the notebook is Harrys Bar who ran a cracker from a very bad draw.
forth             Canvassed ran out of racetrack and I bet Atzeni would want another go at the winner without the zigzag manoeuvre.
As for Zainhom.... not sure what happened there but the jockey gave away the trap3 draw for some reason only beknown to himself.

I have done a few races speed figures for Meydan tomorrow.
I will just post the top ones here.
3:10 Bendoog                        7/2
3:45 Zainhom                        22/1 PP (I think this may just prevail from stall 3 so I have it as my nap)
4:55 Lord Glitters                  7/2
5:30 Canvassed                     6/1
I will do the singles and a small Lucky 15 me thinks.

I have done a few races speed figures for Meydan tomorrow.
I will just post the top ones here.
3:10 Bendoog                        7/2
3:45 Zainhom                        22/1 PP (I think this may just prevail from stall 3 so I have it as my nap)
4:55 Lord Glitters                  7/2
5:30 Canvassed                     6/1
I will do the singles and a small Lucky 15 me thinks.

I have done a few races speed figures for Meydan tomorrow.
I will just post the top ones here.
3:10 Bendoog                        7/2
3:45 Zainhom                        22/1 PP (I think this may just prevail from stall 3 so I have it as my nap)
4:55 Lord Glitters                  7/2
5:30 Canvassed                     6/1
I will do the singles and a small Lucky 15 me thinks.

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