Bang on

He's been well backed and oisin Murphy is up suggesting they expect a good run .....ground is only negative ....he doesn't want it too soft ....but looks a winner waiting to happen soon if not today 

Have backed him from my Tracker, has dropped 15lbs in the weights, backed him LTO and jockey was slow to remove hood in stalls (racing post comment blindfold off late), kept changing inside, outside all the time, and cost him the race IMO. I'm in again as he will surely win soon.

Have backed him from my Tracker, has dropped 15lbs in the weights, backed him LTO and jockey was slow to remove hood in stalls (racing post comment blindfold off late), kept changing inside, outside all the time, and cost him the race IMO. I'm in again as he will surely win soon.

Have backed him from my Tracker, has dropped 15lbs in the weights, backed him LTO and jockey was slow to remove hood in stalls (racing post comment blindfold off late), kept changing inside, outside all the time, and cost him the race IMO. I'm in again as he will surely win soon.

Have backed him from my Tracker, has dropped 15lbs in the weights, backed him LTO and jockey was slow to remove hood in stalls (racing post comment blindfold off late), kept changing inside, outside all the time, and cost him the race IMO. I'm in again as he will surely win soon.

520 good 
Rhoscolyn  8.8  81 80 36  5.6 betf
Darkness   8.6   67  68  58    10.5 betfair
Classic   8.4 62 44 44 
My idea of the winner is Rhoscolyn ....his class fig dropped lto but that was heavy ground so we'll say that was a blip ...other than that he looks,a class above these....danger looks darkness who has performed well in this class previously and conditions  look suitable ....let's trust ratings and go for it 
*edit ...I don't think he'd want ground heavy .....go sft maybe soft woukd be OK....
Rhoscolyn 13.04 win 
Darkness  6.96 win 
20pt outlay  56.00 profit any winner 🏆 
 
 

Laying is not for many I would say. It 'SEEMS' easy, trying to find a loser rather than the winner. The thread starter was just laying 'liability' without it seems any thought to pressure on the bank.
A few years ago I stumbled across 'Maria' on another forum. Her staking was based around the bank. Up to 3.5 - 1% of bank ( backers stake - ie - £10 per £1,000), 3.6 - 7.4 - 0.6% of bank ( 6 per 1,000), and 7.5 - 11 - 0.4% of bank ( 4 per 1,000). I'm sure she posted her bets and the stake was ratcheted up after a winning day, easy to type in the stake and leave it. Pretty sure she made 100k.

Laying is not for many I would say. It 'SEEMS' easy, trying to find a loser rather than the winner. The thread starter was just laying 'liability' without it seems any thought to pressure on the bank.
A few years ago I stumbled across 'Maria' on another forum. Her staking was based around the bank. Up to 3.5 - 1% of bank ( backers stake - ie - £10 per £1,000), 3.6 - 7.4 - 0.6% of bank ( 6 per 1,000), and 7.5 - 11 - 0.4% of bank ( 4 per 1,000). I'm sure she posted her bets and the stake was ratcheted up after a winning day, easy to type in the stake and leave it. Pretty sure she made 100k.

Laying is not for many I would say. It 'SEEMS' easy, trying to find a loser rather than the winner. The thread starter was just laying 'liability' without it seems any thought to pressure on the bank.
A few years ago I stumbled across 'Maria' on another forum. Her staking was based around the bank. Up to 3.5 - 1% of bank ( backers stake - ie - £10 per £1,000), 3.6 - 7.4 - 0.6% of bank ( 6 per 1,000), and 7.5 - 11 - 0.4% of bank ( 4 per 1,000). I'm sure she posted her bets and the stake was ratcheted up after a winning day, easy to type in the stake and leave it. Pretty sure she made 100k.

Ascot and York are the day’s feature meetings with the King George VI & Queen Elizabeth Stakes run at 15.40 the day’s feature race, and what a cracker we have this year. A real race to savour. The ground is soft at both tracks so we’ll be looking for horses that love to get their hooves into the turf. Here’s my thoughts on the day’s seven races with selections to help beat the bookies.     Ascot 13:50 We start the days terrestrial coverage off with an eleven runner 6F Group 3 Princess Margaret Stakes for two year old fillies only. There’s very little soft ground form here with the Amo Racing owned Komat the only horse to comprehensively prove his effectiveness on soft ground having won at Redcar in April on soft. I’m not quite sure she’ll be good enough to win this mind. George Boughey’s Soprano is the current favourite but he ran to at Sandown on Thursday so has to be deemed doubtful one would think. Clive Cox saddles an interesting runner here in the once raced Symbology who beat the more experienced Nighteyes 3/4L at York on her debut a fortnight ago on good ground looking a nice prospect in the process and can run well along with Charlie Johnston’s Sacred Angel who impressed when winning at Newmarket a fortnight ago on fast ground. The Godolphin runner Dazzling Star doesn’t look anything too special having won a modest (by Newmarket standards) 6F maiden a month ago which hasn’t worked out that well. There’s no stand out filly here especially with question marks over the ground for most but I’ll take a chance on the Cox runner Symbology each way to small stakes who, although winning on good ground, may appreciate some cut in the ground like his sire and dam who both won on soft ground.   SYMBOLOGY 1 point win @ 7/2 bet365   York 14:05 York’s ITV coverage kicks off with a nineteen runner class 4 5F ‘Jump Jockeys’ Nunthorpe’ Handicap, a unique race where national hunt jockeys get the chance to ride the sprint track on the Knavesmire. It has a very open look about it with local sprint specialist Paul Midgley saddling six runners, the best of whom may well be the Sam Twiston Davies ridden Glory Fighter. 2021 winner Soul Seeker, trained by David O’Meara has plummeted in the handicap since and races here off of a handicap mark some 17lb lower than that victory. He has little form on a soft surface however so is overlooked for that reason alone. In a race where stakes are most definitely kept small the pick may well be the David O’Meara trained Speedacus who is ridden by the current leader of the national hunt jockeys championship Sean Bowen, who actually won on the flat at Pontefract for his father Peter last week with Supposedtobe. Relatively lightly raced for his age, this Slade Power chestnut gelding proved his liking for soft ground when winning at Doncaster a week ago for which he’s been raised 4lb for. In an open contest he’s worth a small each way bet.   SPEEDACUS 1/2 point each way @ 9/1 William Hill 1/5th 12345   Ascot 14:25 Ten fillies or mares line up for this 1M Group 3 Longines Valiant Stakes. The Irish challenger Cadeau Belle, trained by Johnny Murtagh, is unbeaten in two starts having won a Gowran Park maiden on soft ground and a listed race at Navan. This is a further step up in class but shes done nothing wrong and could play a hand in the finish with Jamie Spencer in the saddle. Also over from the Emerald Isle is the Joseph O’Brien trained Thornbrook, a listed winner in France last time out who is could also be in the mix here. Roger Varian saddles an interesting runner in the four year old Ameynah who we haven’t seen since finishing 6th in last season’s 1000 Guineas and is also untested on easy ground so is overlooked for those reasons alone. Six of the 10 runners are three year olds including Cadeau Belle with the Andrew Balding trained Vetiver stepping up in grade but only 10lb behind the top rated and has won three times on soft ground so has her under foot conditions here. The one I feel they all have to beat though is the Ed Walker trained, Saffie Osborne ridden Random Harvest. The five year old mare has won twice on soft ground and was probably out of her depth last time out when 6th of 8 in the Group 1 Falmouth Stakes at Newmarket. She had previously gone down by short margins in group 3 and 2 company at Epsom and Ascot and as the highest rated of the ten looks the bet here.   RANDOM HARVEST 1 point win @ 10/3 bet365   York 14:40 A competitive fifteen runner 6F class 2 handicap is up next and has a typical York sprint look about it. Karl Burke’s Lethal Levi heads the weights here and ran well on the all-weather at Newcastle last time when 3rd to Batal Dubai. He has claims along with a whole host of others including the only three year old in the field in the shape of Richard Fahey’s Barefoot Angel who makes her first start in a handicap having had her wind operated on since last seen when down the field in the Group 3 Nell Gwyn at Newmarket in April. This represents a drop in grade for the Dark Angel filly and she can run well. Kevin Ryan’s Hambleton Racing owned seven year old Magical Spirit is an interesting runner who won in the mud at Doncaster in April prior to an excellent third of 21 over course and distance 18 days later to Bielsa. His latest run on the all-weather can be forgiven and with conditions to suit looks the pick here to small stakes and an additional place.   MAGICAL SPIRIT 1/2 point each way @ 12/1 bet365 1/5th 1234   Ascot 15:00 A wide open renewal with 27 spread across the 7F straight track. Biggles comes here in fine form, likes soft ground and has to make the short list with Ryan Moore on board. Last year’s winner Fresh is another who can be competitive as long as the ground doesn’t get too testing whilst that wont worry Baradar who can’t have it soft enough. One of only two three year olds in the race, the Richard Fahey trained Ramazan can also be competitive from what may turn out to be a favourable high draw. At a monster price don’t be surprised if Fools Rush In outruns his odds and could hit the frame at a very big price. A wide open race with Biggles the most likely winner with just a 3lb penalty for his cosy Bunbury Cup victory and with Ryan Moore on top. The only negative is his stall 6 which in the past has been a negative so for that reason the vote goes to the mud lark Baradar berthed in stall 24 and the three year old Ramazan in stall 21.   BARADAR 1 point each way @ 7/1 BetVictor 1/5th 12345 RAMAZAN 1 point each way @ 14/1 Boyles 1/5th 12345 FOOLS RUSH IN 1/2 point each way 66/1 Coral 1/5th 12345     York 15:15 Just the five go to post for this 1M 2F 56 yards Group 2 Sky Bet York Stakes. The warm favourite and easily the most likely winner is the William Haggas trained My Prospero who is taking a drop in grade here having run in Group 1 company on his last three starts. His best effort to date was at last season’s Champions Day in the Qipco Champions Stakes when finishing third (beaten 1/2L) by Bay Bridge and Adayar with the great Baaeed behind in fourth. He found the mile of the Lockinge at Newbury on his re-appearance too short for him in May and was not disgraced when fourth of 6 in the Prince Of Wales’s Stakes at the Royal meeting at Ascot in June (beaten 6 1/2L). A reproduction of any of those three runs should see him take this contest on ground that he’s proven on. Roger Varian’s Royal Champion took the Wolverton at Royal Ascot but this is a step up in class for him whilst Owen Burrow’s Alflaila has a 294 day layoff to overcome as well as question marks over his ability to handle soft ground. Johnny Murtagh sends over Mashoor from his County Kildare base in Ireland and is chasing a four timer with his best effort coming at Curragh last time out in the Group 3 International Stakes when running out an impressive 4 3/4L winner from Al Riffa. He looks the danger to the favourite if coping with the soft ground on the Knavesmire.   MY PROSPERO 2 points win @ 5/4 William Hill   Ascot 15:40 The feature race of the day is the King George VI & Queen Elizabeth Qipco Stakes, a Group One race run over 1M 4F and has attracted an excellent field of eleven this year and looks like being one of the best renewals for many a year. The two three year olds taking on the nine elders are Aiden O’Brien’s Epsom and Irish Derby winner Auguste Rodin and the Roger Varian trained Derby runner up and Royal Ascot winner King Of Steel. There was only 1 1/2L between them at Epsom and as that was the latter’s first run of the season I would expect there to be little between them here despite Auguste Rodin’s trainer expressing concerns about very soft ground lets not forget he ran out a comfortable winner of the Vertem Futurity on heavy ground as a juvenile. The soft ground has come in favour of the Owen Burrows runner Hukum whose form figures on ground with the description soft in reads 1131. Last seen beating Desert Crown at Sandown in the Brigadier Gerard Stakes in May he looks a major player now stepping back up in trip. Last year’s winner Pyledriver is back to defend his title having prepped with a victory in the Hardwicke at Royal Ascot but this year’s renewal looks a lot classier than last years. The Gosden’s Emily Upjohn was a major disappointment in this race last year when pulling too hard but has bounced back to form this season with two solid efforts although soft ground may be her downfall. An interesting outsider is one of the Aiden O’Brien quartet in Point Lonsdale who’s unbeaten in five starts on soft ground and could hit the frame at a monster price. A race to savour but with plenty in his favour its Hukum for me.   HUKUM 1 point win @ 9/2 William Hill POINT LONSDALE 1/4 point each way @ 80/1 bet365 1/5th 1234

Could I suggest making it simpler.
A LAY Selection - B Liability - C net profit if it loses
Followed by a profit/loss account - even if it is end of day P/L

Could I suggest making it simpler.
A LAY Selection - B Liability - C net profit if it loses
Followed by a profit/loss account - even if it is end of day P/L

It would be better to post a summary of the results each day in this thread. 

Could say £50, could say £5000, obviously we have no idea if these bets are being placed in reality or, if so, what the actual stake is. My advice to anyone would be don't follow any of the selections (yet, at least) and certainly don't follow with that sort of liability. No offense, same true of unproven tips from any new poster.
You don't need to tell us that on here, you're into egg-sucking Grandma territory.
My question is, are you going to keep a running record of the performance of these bets? Winning and losing lays and the profit/loss? If not, I can't see the point of a dedicated thread, you might as well just post in the daily thread where everyone else posts their bets for the day. Laying or backing it's just an opinion on the race and a dedicated thread serves no purpose unless the returns are being tracked (especially given the claim in the thread title).

1st and 2nd ...Nice runs +31.50

A few interesting good price ones - EW
3.30 Ling - Creationist - 18/1 1/5th 3 places Lad, Coral - Has fallen a very long way since finishing 2nd in 2019 ( has dropped 39 lbs . - 28 recently) Ran over 2 miles last time with a 7lb claiming jock, today has a professional jockey and a 1st time visor, and is dropping back to 1m2f.
4.15 Bath - The Daley Express 18/1 1/5th 3 places Hills - Although now a 9 year old which advises caution, has won from 14lbs higher within the last year. He is a 3 x course winner including over CD, and 5lb lower than when 3rd over CD earlier in the year.
5.05 Catt - Jackmeister Rudi - 13/2 1/5th 3 places Hills - Is a CD winner from a 10lb higher mark within the last year. Looks to be coming back into form and shouldn't mind softer going.

A few interesting good price ones - EW
3.30 Ling - Creationist - 18/1 1/5th 3 places Lad, Coral - Has fallen a very long way since finishing 2nd in 2019 ( has dropped 39 lbs . - 28 recently) Ran over 2 miles last time with a 7lb claiming jock, today has a professional jockey and a 1st time visor, and is dropping back to 1m2f.
4.15 Bath - The Daley Express 18/1 1/5th 3 places Hills - Although now a 9 year old which advises caution, has won from 14lbs higher within the last year. He is a 3 x course winner including over CD, and 5lb lower than when 3rd over CD earlier in the year.
5.05 Catt - Jackmeister Rudi - 13/2 1/5th 3 places Hills - Is a CD winner from a 10lb higher mark within the last year. Looks to be coming back into form and shouldn't mind softer going.

Won. BSP 6.60
62 from 217, LSP 8.58

Won ...+20.00

Prince Alex - Lost
Fortunately the 'danger' Quantum Leap - Won 9/1 - giving me a healthy profit on the race.

9.00 Ponte - Corinthia Knight - 9/1 EW ( 1/5th 4 places with 365 ) Has been dropping in the weights (won off 13lbs higher within the last year).  He is a 5 x CD winner, and although 4 were on Gd/Fm - he won a class 2 ( today class 5 ) on soft over CD in 2021 (rated 88 - today 65 ). This also seems to be his time of year as he has an excellent record in July. Trainer Archie Watson has a 29% strike rate at the track, and Danny Tudhope (2nd top jock at track) takes the ride. Although now 8 years old, he is better class ( has won from as high as 105) and at 9/1 with 4 places available looks a solid EW selection.

9.00 Ponte - Corinthia Knight - 9/1 EW ( 1/5th 4 places with 365 ) Has been dropping in the weights (won off 13lbs higher within the last year).  He is a 5 x CD winner, and although 4 were on Gd/Fm - he won a class 2 ( today class 5 ) on soft over CD in 2021 (rated 88 - today 65 ). This also seems to be his time of year as he has an excellent record in July. Trainer Archie Watson has a 29% strike rate at the track, and Danny Tudhope (2nd top jock at track) takes the ride. Although now 8 years old, he is better class ( has won from as high as 105) and at 9/1 with 4 places available looks a solid EW selection.

It was soft at Newbury but that was after a long lay off.

3.50 Hay - Prince Alex - 9/4 - Gets Soft going on turf ( 5 of his 6 wins)for the first time since winning at Glorious Goodwood 2 years ago (was rated 89 - today is 85). He won over CD on his only previous visit and is 3/3 in class 4 or lower handicaps. The main danger looks to be the unexposed (only 2 races) Quantum Leap, whose trainer Ed Bethell is in very good form ( 3 wins from 6 runners), and when jockey Callum Rodriguez rides for him they have a combined 43% strike rate ( might have a saver at 11/2).

Gdaay wins 🏆....+44.00