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Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? 328 bets, 173% return / corner stak

spin definitely shifts before I post, more often than not, but extra moves with the opening of the flood gates to the masses. I have noticed twice that the line has dropped with spin as soon as I bet and then refresh the screen.
When you place a bet with SPIN, do you get a message telling you to wait while your bet is referred to a trader, and then get a limited time to accept the bet they offer you, or does your bet get accepted after a short delay? If your bet is referred to a trader they can either offer you your original bet, a worse price or a lower stake. By offering you a worse price, I mean they could move the line before you are allowed your bet.
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Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? 330 bets, 172% return / corner stak

cash

points

cash

stake

cash

points

spread

stake

stake

% of bank

stake

stake

date

h

a

corners

bet

per corner

per corner

per corner

corners

profit

profit

8/1/11

L Coruna

Barcelona

11.00

u

4

£6.60

3.00%

11

£0.00

0.00

12/1/11

Blackpool

Liverpool

10.75

u

5

£6.60

3.00%

with Spin also the first bet in the fixed odds paper trial:

fixed odds

blackpool

liverpool

1.83

with B365 this bet represents value and is not generated just because it is flagged in the spreads system.
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Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? 330 bets, 172% return / corner stak Interesting. The good thing is they let you get your bets on, perhaps suggesting they're willing to pay that price to have you help correct their line. Perhaps they also know that a lot of money follows your selections and are taking action in advance of that.

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Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? 328 bets, 173% return / corner stak

Hi Muppet' date=' I'm thinking of starting a thread to post my selections on the forum. Do I need to get permission for this before going ahead?[/quote'] not from me buddy??!
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Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? 330 bets, 172% return / corner stak

Interesting. The good thing is they let you get your bets on' date=' perhaps suggesting they're willing to pay that price to have you help correct their line. Perhaps they also know that a lot of money follows your selections and are taking action in advance of that.[/quote'] yes that has been suggested before. does that make me a cheap employee of sporting index?!
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Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? 330 bets, 172% return / corner stak Hello,All Just a quick note - shouldn't the blackpool-liverpool bet for fixed odds be better of placed on "Asian total corners" market on "under 10.5"@1.95 as the "under" on "corners" market is the same thing but at 1.83?There is no push option on the "corners" market as it is a 3-way market.

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Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? 327 bets, 170% return / corner sta

well, here they are guys, using yield = (profit*stake) / (stoploss*stake)

stop/loss

yield

1

11.2%

2

11.5%

3

12.2%

4

11.3%

5

9.8%

6

8.8%

7

7.8%

8

6.8%

9

6.1%

10

5.5%

11

5.0%
I'm not too familiar with spreadbetting rules, but can you choose your own stop loss limit ?
the yield clearly does worse off when the stop-loss is larger.
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Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? 331 bets, 174% return / corner stak

fixed odds

h

a

bet

odds

profit

Blackpool

Liverpool

1.95

0.95

cash

points

cash

stake

cash

points

spread

stake

stake

% of bank

stake

stake

date

h

a

corners

bet

per corner

per corner

per corner

corners

profit

profit

12/1/11

Blackpool

Liverpool

10.75

u

5

£6.60

3.00%

6

£31.33

23.75

boom! boom! boom!

bets

30

wins

60.0%

returned

3.3%

losses

36.7%

start bank

£100.00

current bank

£251.22

profit

£151.22

all time bets

331

wins

54.4%

returned

0.4%

losses

45.2%

all time profit

644.95

total corner estimates

-0.1% v 6.1%

average error

2.79 v 2.84

av absolute error

0.07 v 0.49

return per corner stake over all 331 bets is 174%
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Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? 331 bets, 174% return / corner stak

cash

points

cash

stake

spread

stake

stake

% of bank

date

h

a

corners

bet

per corner

per corner

per corner

15/1/11

Chelsea

Blackburn

11.50

u

3

£3.23

1.29%

15/1/11

Seville

Espanyol

12.00

u

4

£4.31

1.71%

both spin not had chance to check many fixed odds...apart from

fixed odds

h

a

bet

odds

profit

15/01/2011

lyon

lorient

2

take last games return to make a double ...so £1.95 stake with B365
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Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? 331 bets, 174% return / corner stak

cash

points

cash

stake

cash

points

spread

stake

stake

% of bank

stake

stake

date

h

a

corners

bet

per corner

per corner

per corner

corners

profit

profit

15/1/11

Chelsea

Blackburn

11.50

u

3

£3.23

1.29%

15

-£11.30

-10.50

15/1/11

Seville

Espanyol

12.00

u

4

£4.31

1.71%

10

£8.61

8.00

16/1/11

Barcelona

Malaga

12.00

u

3

£7.46

3.00%

price cut with Spin already but the Racing Post is my proof.

fixed odds

h

a

bet

odds

profit

15/1/11

lyon

lorient

2

1

fixed odds

singles

doubles

bets

2

1

wins

2

1

strike

100%

100%

profit

1.95

2.90

yield

98%

290%

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Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? 331 bets, 174% return / corner stak

how and why?
Hi Muppet your system looks very interesting, I also like using corner markets. Do you have any problems with Sporting Index putting on bets online. Are you allowed to do it online or do they make you phone? What about other companies.
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Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? 331 bets, 174% return / corner stak

how and why?
How ? It's because the distribution is not symmetrical Why ? Because if you increase the stop loss, the expected loss on increase if your bet goes against you is not perfectly cancelled by the expected gain on the other side when the bet goes your way.
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Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? 333 bets, 174% return / corner stak

sorry if I'm wrong but in cesena-roma corners were 12 ... probably I didn't understand your bet... it's under or over?
yes there were, it was a loser. "

fixed odds

date

h

a

bet

odds

profit

16/1/11

cesena

roma

1.95

-1.00

this is the third bet and i am starting the double again with the next bet. i will do this if only one bet is identified - it will be a single and then convert to a double if it wins. i will compare singles yield to doubles yield.

fixed odds

singles

doubles

bets

3

2

wins

2

1

strike

67%

50%

profit

0.95

1.90

yield

32%

95%

cash

points

cash

stake

cash

points

spread

stake

stake

% of bank

stake

stake

date

h

a

corners

bet

per corner

per corner

per corner

corners

profit

profit

16/1/11

Barcelona

Malaga

12.00

u

3

£7.46

3.00%

9

£22.37

9.00

boom!

spreads

bets

33

wins

60.6%

returned

3.0%

losses

36.4%

start bank

£100.00

current bank

£270.90

profit

£170.90

all time bets

334

wins

54.5%

returned

0.4%

losses

45.1%

profit/stake

174%

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