FleetFanatic Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Thursday 20th - Monday 24th September Well here, we are..... can we get a 4th treble on the trot? As for the 7-fold, I've tinkered further, and only teams rating 20 or higher will be considered from now on. Only if we dont not have enough teams will we go down further in 5 ratings-point increments. IT IS STILL THE BEST 7 ODDS NO MATTER WHAT RATINGS: ODDS SHOWN FROM >BET365 60 ALDERSHOT 8/15 51 SALISBURY 4/7 48 ARSENAL 1/6 (EXCLUDED) 40 HAMILTON 4/7 37 RANGERS 2/7 (EXCLUDED) 36 GRAYS 4/5 33 CHESTERFIELD 4/7 27 BURTON 8/11 26 WEYMOUTH 4/7 26 LIVERPOOL 1/4 (EXCLUDED) 24 CHARLTON 8/11 24 LEEDS 8/11 22 HALIFAX 1/1 21 STEVENAGE 8/11 20 CHESTER 11/10 20 CREWE 5/4 TREBLE: PLACED AT BETFRED 60 ALDERSHOT 4/7 51 SALISBURY 8/15 40 HAMILTON 8/13 £139.59 :eek staked in an attempt to return £543.33 :hope 7-FOLD: PLACED AT BETDIRECT 36 GRAYS 5/6 27 BURTON 8/11 24 CHARLTON 5/6 24 LEEDS 8/11 22 HALIFAX 1/1 20 CHESTER 5/4 20 CREWE 5/4 £10 staked in an attempt to return £1015.31 :hope CURRENT BANKS: Trebles: £676.53 7-folds: £430 So, a bit disappointed that the treble is a bit of a skinny price. When I compiled the ratings, I was hoping that at least one of the teams would be priced at 1/2 and therefore get exlcluded..... but hey, these 3 teams served us well in their involvement in our recents bets, let's hope thet can do it again. My bet is placed. :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marron Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Good Luck:hope Can i just ask...do you have a spreadsheet with all the Football League Clubs aswell as the BS Premier? And then update it match-by-match for every club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Nope, I do all this manually, takes me about 5 mins per league. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marron Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Nah, I meant do you have all these teams in one big list with their ratings next to each other then after a match go and re-type the new ratings yourself? Or by 'manually' do you mean you do it all again week-by-week for all the teams in the leagues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Week by week, the ratings in this method take account of the opposition's data & every team in a division is relative to each other. That's why it is different to what was the public method, although there are other differences too. It is my own creation & I intend to keep it that way. Time for bed, nights this week & back in at 6pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marron Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 OK. Good Luck anyway :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted September 21, 2007 Author Share Posted September 21, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Thursday 20th - Monday 24th September Well here, we are..... can we get a 4th treble on the trot? As for the 7-fold, I've tinkered further, and only teams rating 20 or higher will be considered from now on. Only if we dont not have enough teams will we go down further in 5 ratings-point increments. IT IS STILL THE BEST 7 ODDS NO MATTER WHAT RATINGS: ODDS SHOWN FROM >BET365 60 ALDERSHOT 8/15 51 SALISBURY 4/7 48 ARSENAL 1/6 (EXCLUDED) 40 HAMILTON 4/7 37 RANGERS 2/7 (EXCLUDED) 36 GRAYS 4/5 33 CHESTERFIELD 4/7 27 BURTON 8/11 26 WEYMOUTH 4/7 26 LIVERPOOL 1/4 (EXCLUDED) 24 CHARLTON 8/11 24 LEEDS 8/11 22 HALIFAX 1/1 21 STEVENAGE 8/11 20 CHESTER 11/10 20 CREWE 5/4 TREBLE: PLACED AT BETFRED 60 ALDERSHOT 4/7 51 SALISBURY 8/15 40 HAMILTON 8/13 £139.59 :eek staked in an attempt to return £543.33 :hope 7-FOLD: PLACED AT BETDIRECT 36 GRAYS 5/6 27 BURTON 8/11 24 CHARLTON 5/6 24 LEEDS 8/11 22 HALIFAX 1/1 20 CHESTER 5/4 20 CREWE 5/4 £10 staked in an attempt to return £1015.31 :hope CURRENT BANKS: Trebles: £676.53 7-folds: £430 So, a bit disappointed that the treble is a bit of a skinny price. When I compiled the ratings, I was hoping that at least one of the teams would be priced at 1/2 and therefore get exlcluded..... but hey, these 3 teams served us well in their involvement in our recents bets, let's hope thet can do it again. My bet is placed. :hopeAldershot are now 9/20, Salisbury 1/2 with bet365 - maybe there's an army of bets flooding in :lol..... if they had been those odds yesterday morning, they would have been excluded.:unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsul Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Good Luck Again Fleet.:hope :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2hcb Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Aldershot are now 9/20' date=' Salisbury 1/2 with bet365 - maybe there's an army of bets flooding in :lol..... if they had been those odds yesterday morning, they would have been excluded.:unsure[/quote'] Fleet - I think word of your recent form has got around and punters all over the country are piling into that treble :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie4 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Great thread good luck for the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted September 22, 2007 Author Share Posted September 22, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Fleet - I think word of your recent form has got around and punters all over the country are piling into that treble :lol:lol Joking aside' date=' we all know that the winning run [b']will end. Just not this weekend I hope. :hope Edit: Aldershot now 2/5, Salisbury 4/9 @ bet365, betfred site is down, prices still available on betfred's printed coupon apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghent_3rd Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 GODDAM ALDERSHOT!!! :( 2-0 up, 3-3 at the minute :@ Some strange results for home teams this week as we stand. Looks like my treble has shot it as well, Weymouth getting hammered by Stafford, unthinkable. I thought Hamilton were a shoe in this week, especially on their plastic pitch against Livingston. Oh well, onwards to midweek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghent_3rd Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 C'on the shots!! 4-3 haha A goal from Hamilton in last 5 mins would be ace now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubzero Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 GODDAM HAMILTON!!! :cry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted September 22, 2007 Author Share Posted September 22, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 I'll update when I've finished calling Hamilton other names. :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Thursday 20th - Monday 24th September Well here, we are..... can we get a 4th treble on the trot? No. RATINGS: ODDS SHOWN FROM >BET365 60 ALDERSHOT 8/15 4-3 :) 51 SALISBURY 4/7 2-0 :) 48 ARSENAL 1/6 (EXCLUDED) 5-0 :) 40 HAMILTON 4/7 1-1 :wall 37 RANGERS 2/7 (EXCLUDED) 3-0 :) 36 GRAYS 4/5 0-2 :@ 33 CHESTERFIELD 4/7 0-1 :@ 27 BURTON 8/11 2-0 :) 26 WEYMOUTH 4/7 1-3 :@ 26 LIVERPOOL 1/4 (EXCLUDED) 0-0 :wall 24 CHARLTON 8/11 2-0 :) 24 LEEDS 8/11 2-0 :) 22 HALIFAX 1/1 1-1 :wall 21 STEVENAGE 8/11 1-2 :@ 20 CHESTER 11/10 0-2 :@ 20 CREWE 5/4 0-0 :wall TREBLE: PLACED AT BETFRED 60 ALDERSHOT 4/7 :clap 51 SALISBURY 8/15 :clap 40 HAMILTON 8/13 :wall :@:@:@ £139.59 :eek staked in an attempt to return £543.33 :sad 7-FOLD: PLACED AT BETDIRECT 36 GRAYS 5/6 :@ 27 BURTON 8/11 :) 24 CHARLTON 5/6 :) 24 LEEDS 8/11 :) 22 HALIFAX 1/1 :wall 20 CHESTER 5/4 :@ 20 CREWE 5/4 :wall £10 staked in an attempt to return £1015.31 :sad CURRENT BANKS: Trebles: £676.53 7-folds: £430 Back to £10 for the next treble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Thursday 27th - Monday 1st October Ok so we're back after last weekend's disappointment. But hey, the trebles are in profit and will be for a few months yet, even if we dont pick up any wins. Some weird results have dampened some ratings all over the place, and the bias towards the Blue Square Prem1er continues due to more games being played. That will address itself within the ratings in the next couple of weeks, although I can't tell you why. RATINGS: ODDS SHOWN FROM >BET365 78 TORQUAY 1/4 (EXCLUDED) 47 WEST BROM 1/2 (EXCLUDED) 42 HARTLEPOOL 8/13 40 CRAWLEY 8/15 33 SHREWSBURY 8/11 31 STRANRAER 1/2 (EXCLUDED) 27 EAST FIFE 4/7 25 RUSHDEN 5/6 22 HISTON 5/6 21 MONTROSE 4/5 21 CHELSEA 3/10 (EXCLUDED) TREBLE: 42 HARTLEPOOL 40 CRAWLEY 33 SHREWSBURY £10 staked in an attempt to return £??? :hope 7-FOLD: 42 HARTLEPOOL 40 CRAWLEY 33 SHREWSBURY 27 EAST FIFE 25 RUSHDEN 22 HISTON 21 MONTROSE £10 staked in an attempt to return £??? :hope Bets to follow VCBet could be the place, if oddschecker are correct. CURRENT BANKS: Trebles: £676.53 7-folds: £430 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumpking Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Unlucky last weekend Fleet. Good luck with this weekend's treble :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Confirmation of bets: VCbet was looking good but before the matches were even selectable on their website, the odds shorted. Anyway:TREBLE: placed at bluesquare 42 HARTLEPOOL 4/6 40 CRAWLEY 4/7 33 SHREWSBURY 4/5 £10 staked in an attempt to return £47.14 :hope 7-FOLD:placed at betdirect 42 HARTLEPOOL 8/13 40 CRAWLEY 8/13 33 SHREWSBURY 8/11 27 EAST FIFE 4/7 25 RUSHDEN 4/6 22 HISTON 5/6 21 MONTROSE 4/5 £10 staked in an attempt to return £389.56 :hope CURRENT BANKS: Trebles: £666.53 7-folds: £420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsul Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Good Luck Fleet.:hope :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted September 29, 2007 Author Share Posted September 29, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Possibly the worst day ever for my ratings..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Possibly the worst day ever for my ratings..... still not managed to follow you at all this season with this, but its the long term that counts - the way I see it, is if you're gonna have 'x' number of losing bets in a season, its best to have them at the same time :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted September 29, 2007 Author Share Posted September 29, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 On a positve note, the way the results have been going all over, we should start to see more different teams start to appear soon. There weren't many home wins today, fullstop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Well to recap the weekend, only East Fife won, although rather convincingly. That will address itself within the ratings in the next couple of weeks' date=' although I can't tell you why.[/quote'] Well I have been tinkering, only slightly, and have add in some recent form factors to everything. Only teams ahead of the away team on long term & short term form will be considered, and then the totals calculated at that point will be added together. This will make ratings have higher totals, but it will also make the teams a wider spread within those figures, so we can see how much stronger one team is fancied than another. This does mean teams slightly ahead on both counts may make the shortlist in preference to teams that are ahead longterm but behind on shortterm form, but the ratings on both would be so low that they wouldnt make the bets anyway, I think. I am taking 60 at the minimum requirement for the 7-fold bets. Tuesday 2nd / Wednesday 3rd October RATINGS: ODDS SHOWN FROM >BET365 88 ALDERSHOT 5/6 83 WATFORD 4/7 81 TRANMERE 8/11 70 WEST BROM 8/11 58 COLCHESTER 10/11 53 BURNLEY 6/5 42 YEOVIL 11/10 19 BURY 11/8 12 PLYMOUTH 6/5 TREBLE: placed with BLUESQ 88 ALDERSHOT 10/11 83 WATFORD 8/13 81 TRANMERE 8/11 £10 staked in an attempt to return £53.27 :hope CURRENT BANKS: Trebles: £656.53 7-folds: £420 Oh and if anybody's interested, Fleetwood Town (odds 1/2) at home to Leek in the Unibond Premier rates 87. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 2, 2007 Author Share Posted October 2, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Watford 2-1 up, Tranmere 1-1, Aldershot just gone up 1-0 up with 10 minutes to go. C'mon Tranmere :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 2, 2007 Author Share Posted October 2, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Tuesday 2nd / Wednesday 3rd October RATINGS: ODDS SHOWN FROM >BET365 88 ALDERSHOT 5/6 2-0:) 83 WATFORD 4/7 2-1 :) 81 TRANMERE 8/11 1-1 :wall :@:@:@ 70 WEST BROM 8/11 58 COLCHESTER 10/11 53 BURNLEY 6/5 2-2 :wall 42 YEOVIL 11/10 0-0 :wall 19 BURY 11/8 1-1 :wall 12 PLYMOUTH 6/5 1-0 :) TREBLE: placed with BLUESQ 88 ALDERSHOT 10/11 :clap 83 WATFORD 8/13 :clap 81 TRANMERE 8/11 :wall £10 staked in an attempt to return £53.27 :sad CURRENT BANKS: Trebles: £656.53 7-folds: £420 Grrrr.....I believe Fleetwood Town won though. I'll be back Thursday evening after a 12 hour shift. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 To save me some time tomorrow, here are the ratings minus those for the championship: (Only those 60+ shown) 133 MK Dons 131 Arsenal 101 Leeds Utd 101 Man Utd 100 East Fife 97 Hereford 96 Chesterfield 94 Liverpool 73 Ross County 67 Weymouth 64 Accrington I'll edit this tomorrow with the extra ratings to go in, then put the bets in a seperate post. Seeing as I compile ratings all the way down to Ryman / Unibond / Southern (BG) Premier Leagues for my 'canadian of trebles' thread, I am starting to become tempted to include these in the trebles thread too. 14 leagues to find a treble.....or is this a step too far? You've all got until tomorrow night to influence me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumpking Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 I'd review the maximum possible Fleet as I'm sure your trebles system would benefit from inclusion of the highest possible rated sides - e.g. would it have been a winning treble yesterday with Fleetwood Town, Aldershot & Watford? Does an increased variance within the ratings for teams from lower divisions occur if key players are missing through injury, suspension, etc (or other factors)? Does this make a bigger difference than in higher divisions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 One could argue that it might. But that could be said of some league 2 / blue square prem1er sides..... Nothing in the Championship meets the requirements. Here, however, are the ratings for all 14 divisions: 167 Gateshead 2/5 133 MK Dons 4/7 131 Arsenal 1/6 111 Southport 2/5 106 Rugby Town 8/11 103 Brackley Town 4/6 102 Workington 4/6 101 Leeds Utd 8/13 101 Man Utd 1/7 100 East Fife 1/3 97 Hereford 11/10 96 Chesterfield 8/13 94 Liverpool 1/2 90 Boreham Wood 4/7 73 Ross County 8/15 69 Horsham 8/15 67 Lewes 4/7 67 Weymouth 4/7 64 Accrington 10/11 60 Bishops Stortford 4/5 So we're either talking (shown before checking for best odds) 133 MK Dons 4/7 101 Leeds Utd 8/13 96 Chesterfield 8/13 or 133 MK Dons 4/7 106 Rugby Town 8/11 103 Brackley Town 4/6 A dilemma, but without the extra teams there are only 7 teams that qualify for the 7-fold. One answer could be to only include them in the 7-fold? There's would certainly be more value to be had with the inclusion of the extra leagues. Providing we still get winning teams, of course. The one downside is not as many bookies publish odds for all these sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrhead73 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Re: Fleet's Football Trebles 2007-08 Tough decision Fleet. Maybe you should run with both trebles for a while to see how it pans out. Call one the Top Leagues Treble and the other the All Leagues Treble???? So far i can find the following bookies offering odds on Brackley & Rugby, Bet365 Coral Sky Stan James SportingBet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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