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kippe6 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** the 50 up club $2500 final is tonight not wednesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the croc Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** was going to play betonbet european league tonight but 50 up final on so will give it a miss tonight,make the most of your start gaf and strider ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philossify Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** the 50 up club $2500 final is tonight not wednesday He's not wrong you know :eek - thank you for reminding me. :cheers :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted June 4, 2007 Author Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** Laddies cruise game is at 19:35, not 20:35 !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the croc Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** was going to play betonbet european league tonight but 50 up final on so will give it a miss tonight' date='make the most of your start gaf and strider ;)[/quote'] 50 up final not on till 8 so will play euro league too(should be out before 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedonist Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** the 50 up club $2500 final is tonight not wednesday Thanks for that. :ok Would have missed it, I thought it was always on a Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppie Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** Think you should of stuck to your original plan croc:lol gl m8 nice start and gl slap and gaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocket Lady Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** Out of 50up final 1st hand. :sad:sad:sad My QQ all in was called by AJ - he flopped the J and turned the A. :wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe1ne Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** Bah wooden spoon for me in the BetonBet. At least it means i've won summat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** That was the most obvious thing this year - me going out early. All week had good hands being beaten by mostly crap hands, at least i went out when dominated tonight in the BoB, but was just playing totally crap :(. Every single time i had a hand someone either re-raised me PF or post flop as well :@ GL all :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted June 4, 2007 Author Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** Every single time i had a hand someone either re-raised me PF or post flop as well :@ GL all :ok You did seem to be CALLING with some pretty marginal cards at times!!! Saw you get VERY lucky a few times tonight too!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moFace Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** qualified for the betfiar 11k guaranteed, first few hands i hit quad 7s v someone fh :) get in! flop 10710 then 7 then k and re rasie!!!!!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** You did seem to be CALLING with some pretty marginal cards at times!!! Saw you get VERY lucky a few times tonight too!!! To be fair you only saw about 3 of my hands ;) The only one you can pin on me, that i can remember, is the two pair you beat me with, as i said - i'm not playing well atm. Bit confused you say i got very lucky, when the first PF coin flip was 50/50 with the KQ v 4,4. Also i laid down J's when over-pair came on board and another big hand i can't remember and then ran into AK with the AQ at the end. Not very lucky to me :(, but i'm not saying it was unlucky, just normal poker, but i certainly wasn't "VERY lucky a few times tonight" Unless you can jog my memory....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** I used to think I was unlucky at poker. I then realised it was actually me playing bad poker. I went away and reassessed how I play. I then became an average player. Too many bad players think they are unlucky. I like that sort of player as they are easy pickings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gazza271 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** To be fair you only saw about 3 of my hands ;) The only one you can pin on me' date=' that i can remember, is the two pair you beat me with, as i said - i'm not playing well atm. Bit confused you say i got very lucky, when the first PF coin flip was 50/50 with the KQ v 4,4. Also i laid down J's when over-pair came on board and another big hand i can't remember and then ran into AK with the AQ at the end. Not very lucky to me :(, but i'm not saying it was unlucky, just normal poker, but i certainly wasn't "VERY lucky a few times tonight" Unless you can jog my memory.......[/quote'] mate maybe you could post your tourny hand history in your thread in Strat, sure there's a lot of people including me that would benefit from some of the excellent players on here adding contributions :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** I used to think I was unlucky at poker. I then realised it was actually me playing bad poker. I went away and reassessed how I play. I then became an average player. Too many bad players think they are unlucky. I like that sort of player as they are easy pickings. Hope that wasn't directed at me - i'm getting way too much shit atm. I could have quite easily started a thread under chat named 'stunning plays by Nade' because there are plenty every week, if not day, but i've just been highlighting a run, which i've never encountered before btw, where everything is going against me and all of a sudden it's attack Nade week. Although i was fully prepared for criticism of my plays which i've posted it's as if people think i'm against the poker world and blaming all and sundry. No. Just a frustrating period and i know i'm not a great player, but certainly not bad enough to be chastised on here and i think i'll just stop posting. (Not directed at you Staffy or anyone inparticular, but rant over) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the croc Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** out of euro lge 5th,after 2 hands of somewhat bad luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** Hope that wasn't directed at me - i'm getting way too much shit atm. I could have quite easily started a thread under chat named 'stunning plays by Nade' because there are plenty every week, if not day, but i've just been highlighting a run, which i've never encountered before btw, where everything is going against me and all of a sudden it's attack Nade week. Although i was fully prepared for criticism of my plays which i've posted it's as if people think i'm against the poker world and blaming all and sundry. No. Just a frustrating period and i know i'm not a great player, but certainly not bad enough to be chastised on here and i think i'll just stop posting. (Not directed at you Staffy or anyone inparticular, but rant over) It was not just directed at you. But all poker players even bad players can win money in the short term. It is only good players that win money all the time. Just looking at my stats only 35% of the players in my database are in profit. There is a reason for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** Also i laid down J's when over-pair came on board That was versus me and I put you on AK (K high flop) and wanted a call. I had AA. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted June 4, 2007 Author Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** A few hands from tonight (and I dont in any way claim I played them well) ** Game ID 1424777096 starting - 2007-06-04 20:11:40 ** BetOnBet and PL 6 legs Leader Board[934329]:Table 3 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (20.00|40.00 No Limit - MTT) Real Money - Telepe sitting in seat 1 with $1670.00 - De-Wolf sitting in seat 2 with $1970.00 [Dealer] - 27Nade sitting in seat 3 with $1980.00 - Valiant23 sitting in seat 4 with $1484.00 - RedFear sitting in seat 5 with $2800.00 - thehornet01 sitting in seat 6 with $2195.00 - PlistonB sitting in seat 7 with $1480.00 - teaulcsg1 sitting in seat 8 with $2391.00 27Nade posted the small blind - $10.00 Valiant23 posted the big blind - $20.00 ** Dealing card to Telepe: King of Diamonds, 10 of Spades RedFear folded thehornet01 folded PlistonB folded teaulcsg1 folded Telepe raised - $80.00 De-Wolf folded 27Nade called - $80.00 Valiant23 folded ** Dealing the flop: 10 of Clubs, 3 of Hearts, 9 of Diamonds 27Nade bet - $45.00 Telepe raised - $157.50 27Nade called - $157.50 ** Dealing the turn: Ace of Diamonds 27Nade bet - $123.75 Telepe called - $123.75 ** Dealing the river: 2 of Clubs 27Nade checked Telepe checked 27Nade shows: Jack of Diamonds, King of Hearts Telepe shows: King of Diamonds, 10 of Spades Telepe wins $742.50 from the main pot End of game 1424777096 The very next hand ** Game ID 1424780563 starting - 2007-06-04 20:13:14 ** BetOnBet and PL 6 legs Leader Board[934329]:Table 3 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (20.00|40.00 No Limit - MTT) Real Money - Telepe sitting in seat 1 with $2051.25 - De-Wolf sitting in seat 2 with $1970.00 - 27Nade sitting in seat 3 with $1628.75 [Dealer] - Valiant23 sitting in seat 4 with $1474.00 - RedFear sitting in seat 5 with $2780.00 - thehornet01 sitting in seat 6 with $2195.00 - PlistonB sitting in seat 7 with $1480.00 - teaulcsg1 sitting in seat 8 with $2391.00 Valiant23 posted the small blind - $10.00 RedFear posted the big blind - $20.00 ** Dealing card to Telepe: 10 of Hearts, Ace of Spades thehornet01 folded PlistonB called - $20.00 teaulcsg1 folded Telepe called - $20.00 De-Wolf folded 27Nade raised - $80.00 Valiant23 folded RedFear folded PlistonB called - $80.00 Telepe called - $80.00 ** Dealing the flop: 8 of Diamonds, Ace of Diamonds, 8 of Clubs PlistonB checked Telepe checked 27Nade bet - $67.50 PlistonB folded Telepe called - $67.50 ** Dealing the turn: 3 of Spades Telepe bet - $101.25 27Nade called - $101.25 ** Dealing the river: 10 of Clubs Telepe bet - $303.75 27Nade called - $303.75 Telepe shows: 10 of Hearts, Ace of Spades 27Nade shows: 6 of Clubs, Ace of Clubs Telepe wins $1215.00 from the main pot End of game 1424780563 I wasn't concentrating on the game completely, but those two hands really stood out and formed my opinion ..... looking through the rest of the hand history, you DID tighten up a bit.... ** Game ID 1424821505 starting - 2007-06-04 20:26:57 ** BetOnBet and PL 6 legs Leader Board[934329]:Table 3 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (50.00|100.00 No Limit - MTT) Real Money - Telepe sitting in seat 1 with $2618.75 - De-Wolf sitting in seat 2 with $1940.00 - 27Nade sitting in seat 3 with $656.25 - Valiant23 sitting in seat 4 with $1764.00 - RedFear sitting in seat 5 with $2500.00 - thehornet01 sitting in seat 6 with $1940.00 - PlistonB sitting in seat 7 with $2155.00 - teaulcsg1 sitting in seat 8 with $3207.34 - Adetrick sitting in seat 9 with $943.66 [Dealer] - rich30775 sitting in seat 10 with $1810.00 rich30775 posted the small blind - $25.00 Telepe posted the big blind - $50.00 ** Dealing card to Telepe: 9 of Diamonds, 6 of Spades De-Wolf folded 27Nade went all-in - $656.25 Valiant23 folded RedFear folded thehornet01 folded PlistonB folded teaulcsg1 went all-in - $3207.34 Adetrick folded rich30775 folded Telepe folded 27Nade shows: Queen of Spades, King of Spades teaulcsg1 shows: 4 of Spades, 4 of Diamonds ** Dealing the flop: 5 of Spades, 3 of Clubs, 10 of Clubs ** Dealing the turn: 8 of Clubs ** Dealing the river: King of Diamonds 27Nade wins $1387.50 from the main pot Nice river ;) But as you say - it was a coin flip - 50.1% for you to 49.9%, so you didn't really get lucky. But the serious point - I really dislike the all in with KQs - what do ou want to happen? Do you want a call? If you don't want a call, then you are risking 656 to win 75 - where 75 isn't going to change anything for you. If you do want a call, what hand do you want to call that will reasonably call? Though I dislike Al's call with 44 more than your raise ;) I know he's got chips - but likewise - what are you expecting that's better than a coin flip for you Al? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaulc Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** trev,,pocket 4`s rarely lose and i didnt put him on a pair,i had the chips and was a value bet as far i was concerned,,i aint losing 50% of my chips and the extra he had would have been a nice addition,,you have to gamble sometimes and i like to gamble,especially when a short stack goes all-in,,i know that will make you cringe but i aint a by the book odds player,i hate folding hand after hand and quite often i go by the gut which has served me well:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** A few hands from tonight (and I dont in any way claim I played them well) ** Game ID 1424777096 starting - 2007-06-04 20:11:40 ** BetOnBet and PL 6 legs Leader Board[934329]:Table 3 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (20.00|40.00 No Limit - MTT) Real Money - Telepe sitting in seat 1 with $1670.00 - De-Wolf sitting in seat 2 with $1970.00 [Dealer] - 27Nade sitting in seat 3 with $1980.00 - Valiant23 sitting in seat 4 with $1484.00 - RedFear sitting in seat 5 with $2800.00 - thehornet01 sitting in seat 6 with $2195.00 - PlistonB sitting in seat 7 with $1480.00 - teaulcsg1 sitting in seat 8 with $2391.00 27Nade posted the small blind - $10.00 Valiant23 posted the big blind - $20.00 ** Dealing card to Telepe: King of Diamonds, 10 of Spades RedFear folded thehornet01 folded PlistonB folded teaulcsg1 folded Telepe raised - $80.00 De-Wolf folded 27Nade called - $80.00 Valiant23 folded ** Dealing the flop: 10 of Clubs, 3 of Hearts, 9 of Diamonds 27Nade bet - $45.00 Telepe raised - $157.50 27Nade called - $157.50 ** Dealing the turn: Ace of Diamonds 27Nade bet - $123.75 Telepe called - $123.75 ** Dealing the river: 2 of Clubs 27Nade checked Telepe checked 27Nade shows: Jack of Diamonds, King of Hearts Telepe shows: King of Diamonds, 10 of Spades Telepe wins $742.50 from the main pot End of game 1424777096 This one was loose obviously, tried to hit the gut shot on the turn then because my confidence is rock bottom i could only muster an admittedly totally lame bluff at the ace. Don't see how that comes under the 'very lucky' category. :\ The very next hand ** Game ID 1424780563 starting - 2007-06-04 20:13:14 ** BetOnBet and PL 6 legs Leader Board[934329]:Table 3 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (20.00|40.00 No Limit - MTT) Real Money - Telepe sitting in seat 1 with $2051.25 - De-Wolf sitting in seat 2 with $1970.00 - 27Nade sitting in seat 3 with $1628.75 [Dealer] - Valiant23 sitting in seat 4 with $1474.00 - RedFear sitting in seat 5 with $2780.00 - thehornet01 sitting in seat 6 with $2195.00 - PlistonB sitting in seat 7 with $1480.00 - teaulcsg1 sitting in seat 8 with $2391.00 Valiant23 posted the small blind - $10.00 RedFear posted the big blind - $20.00 ** Dealing card to Telepe: 10 of Hearts, Ace of Spades thehornet01 folded PlistonB called - $20.00 teaulcsg1 folded Telepe called - $20.00 De-Wolf folded 27Nade raised - $80.00 Valiant23 folded RedFear folded PlistonB called - $80.00 Telepe called - $80.00 ** Dealing the flop: 8 of Diamonds, Ace of Diamonds, 8 of Clubs PlistonB checked Telepe checked 27Nade bet - $67.50 PlistonB folded Telepe called - $67.50 ** Dealing the turn: 3 of Spades Telepe bet - $101.25 27Nade called - $101.25 ** Dealing the river: 10 of Clubs Telepe bet - $303.75 27Nade called - $303.75 Telepe shows: 10 of Hearts, Ace of Spades 27Nade shows: 6 of Clubs, Ace of Clubs Telepe wins $1215.00 from the main pot End of game 1424780563 Was steaming a bit on that one, was certain i was behind and was bad play like i said earlier. I wasn't concentrating on the game completely, but those two hands really stood out and formed my opinion ..... looking through the rest of the hand history, you DID tighten up a bit.... ** Game ID 1424821505 starting - 2007-06-04 20:26:57 ** BetOnBet and PL 6 legs Leader Board[934329]:Table 3 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (50.00|100.00 No Limit - MTT) Real Money - Telepe sitting in seat 1 with $2618.75 - De-Wolf sitting in seat 2 with $1940.00 - 27Nade sitting in seat 3 with $656.25 - Valiant23 sitting in seat 4 with $1764.00 - RedFear sitting in seat 5 with $2500.00 - thehornet01 sitting in seat 6 with $1940.00 - PlistonB sitting in seat 7 with $2155.00 - teaulcsg1 sitting in seat 8 with $3207.34 - Adetrick sitting in seat 9 with $943.66 [Dealer] - rich30775 sitting in seat 10 with $1810.00 rich30775 posted the small blind - $25.00 Telepe posted the big blind - $50.00 ** Dealing card to Telepe: 9 of Diamonds, 6 of Spades De-Wolf folded 27Nade went all-in - $656.25 Valiant23 folded RedFear folded thehornet01 folded PlistonB folded teaulcsg1 went all-in - $3207.34 Adetrick folded rich30775 folded Telepe folded 27Nade shows: Queen of Spades, King of Spades teaulcsg1 shows: 4 of Spades, 4 of Diamonds ** Dealing the flop: 5 of Spades, 3 of Clubs, 10 of Clubs ** Dealing the turn: 8 of Clubs ** Dealing the river: King of Diamonds 27Nade wins $1387.50 from the main pot On this one i was steaming even more then earlier simple as that, 2 big cards and i want to push, no calculations went into it i wasn't thinking i want 'x' and 'x' to call and not 'y' it was just a push, maybe hard for you to understand my logic but at that stage with my stack i feel i'm almost out anyway so why not push. quote] So i didn't get "VERY lucky" and i wasn't unlucky in the MTT, just normal poker happened - win some lose some, i'm not complaining :unsure . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAM Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** not sure what is going on here :unsure but from where I am standing Nade has just made a post game rant (ish) the kind most of us ignore, then people (mods - who should know better) antaganise the situation :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philossify Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** Whoopie made $162.50 for 6th in the 50Up final (Happyhornet still in) and I'm currently 23rd out of 60 in the Laddies league game :hope :hope :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhornet Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** Just out in 4th for $237.50 in 50 UP final. :nana Will (probably in vain) attempt to post a screen shot in Winnings and PB's as it beats my best by 21 bucks!:cow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avongirl Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** Well done Hornet, phil and hedonist in the money on 50up. :clap I finally ran out of chips in 14th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** not sure what is going on here :unsure but from where I am standing Nade has just made a post game rant (ish) the kind most of us ignore, then people (mods - who should know better) antaganise the situation :unsure I'm chilled, but just had to reply to the post :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kippe6 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** wp chaps i never even got started in 50 up befor i was out dont know what happened ended up all in without pressing a button Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moFace Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Re: **Poker Monday 4th June** qualified for the betfiar 11k guaranteed, first few hands i hit quad 7s v someone fh :) get in! flop 10710 then 7 then k and re rasie!!!!!! lol made it to the second break 34 left 18 pay sitting in 22nd ooh:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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