jtw1 Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Well done with REVERENCE :ok [unfortunately missed it as i was tucked up safely in bed by the time WFTE posted :cry , bloody work :\ ] Record of horses in both systems and odds 2-1 or under - 1st,unp,1st,3rd,1st,1st,1st,1st,1st,1st,3rd,1st,1st,1st,1st,1st,2nd,1st :clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clotty Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey It's an intersting spot JTW1. Anyway, I wondered if you had any other statistics such as how differently the bankroll would look if you only backed those bets. Last of all, I'd just like to give thanks to WFTE for sharing this with all of us. Keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtw1 Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Will try and post the details later on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtw1 Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey The System Within A System System !!! BETS - 18 STRIKE RATE - 14 PROFIT - 97.70 pts [to a 10 pt level stake] YEILD - 54.28% Assuming a 10 pt win stake on all horses named on both system A+ B , at S.P odds no greater then 2-1. I would assume greater profit if BETFAIR was used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maria Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Only a tiny bit better ... at 3.0 and under, there's little difference overall, these days, between the exchange and a bookie. But with a strike-rate of 77.7% (if it holds up, of course!), one might be thinking of a staking plan other than 10-point level stakes (such as, for instance, 5% of the original bank plus the square-root of the current profit). This sort of strike-rate would (unusually) be ideal for that sort of staking. But I am reluctant (especially as a relative newbie) to take up space in this outstanding thread to discuss such details, which could so easily be misconstrued as criticism or argument! The main thing is "thank you for such brilliant system selections; and please keep them coming" ... :dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eirebhoy Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Going on Adrian Massey's system I think Lorient Express, She's Our Native and Red Brook Lad are the horses to be on for tomorrow. http://www.adrianmassey.com/13/rating.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clotty Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey The System Within A System System !!! BETS - 18 STRIKE RATE - 14 PROFIT - 97.70 pts [to a 10 pt level stake] YEILD - 54.28% Assuming a 10 pt win stake on all horses named on both system A+ B , at S.P odds no greater then 2-1. I would assume greater profit if BETFAIR was used. Thanks for putting the effort in to reveal that. I appreaciate it. Backing all System 'A' bets along with System 'B' bets below 2/1 seem to be the best way to go judging from what your figures show. Laying the horse with the shortest odds in the races involves the 2/1 or unders could also make a tidy sum. Fingers crossed tomorrow we hit the bookie where it hurts :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted April 13, 2006 Author Share Posted April 13, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey SYSTEM A 3.10 Not - Reverence - 1st 1/2 3.20 Cat - Numero Due - 3rd 15/2 4.10 Not - Into The Shadows - UP SYSTEM B 2.30 Lin - Areyoutalkingtome - 3rd 10/11 2.40 Not - Garlogs - 3rd 13/8 3.10 Not - Reverence - 1st 1/2 Roundup SYSTEM A Bets:105 Winners:39 Strikerate:37.14% Profit:215.63pts Yield:41.47% Bank:315.63pts SYSTEM B Bets:104 Winners:39 Strikerate:37.5% Profit:-25.37pts Yield:-5.02% Bank:74.63pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted April 13, 2006 Author Share Posted April 13, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Selections for Thursday SYSTEM A 3.00 Lud - Martha's Kinsman RPF:3/1 4.00 Lud - She's Our Native RPF:5/2 5.00 Lud - Red Brook Lad RPF:5/4 SYSTEM B 2.50 Win - Lorient Express RPF:15/8 4.00 Lud - She's Our Native RPF:5/2 4.20 Win - Lucky Sinna RPF:7/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werdnatrebor Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Hello to you all, as a seasoned losing punter, I am always on the look out for ways to claw back some of the £1000`s I have given the bookies over the years, so you can imagine how delighted i was to stumble across working for the enemy`s system A&B selections, a big thankyou. I just have one polite suggestion to Working for the enemy, and that is would it be possible to post your selections the night before racing at a regular time, so that we can strike the bets before work the next day, I myself start work at 7am most days and sometimes find it difficult to get the bets on.. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted April 13, 2006 Author Share Posted April 13, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Please refer to your other thread.Ive answered in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooster Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey A tasty 9/1 winner for System B. Well done WFTE. Rooster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickstar Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Go system B... 2 out of 3 and one at a really nice price too. :clap Who needs system A? :tongue2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted April 14, 2006 Author Share Posted April 14, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Almost Rooster, Lucky Sinna actually returned at 8/1.Still very tasty though. SYSTEM A 3.00 Lud - Martha's Kinsman - 3rd 10/1 4.00 Lud - She's Our Native - 3rd 9/4 5.00 Lud - Red Brook Lad - FELL SYSTEM B 2.50 Win - Lorient Express - 1st 10/11 4.00 Lud - She's Our Native - 3rd 9/4 4.20 Win - Lucky Sinna - 1st 8/1 Roundup SYSTEM A Bets:108 Winners:39 Strikerate:36.11% Profit:200.63pts Yield:37.50% Bank:300.63pts SYSTEM B Bets:106 Winners:41 Strikerate:38.68% Profit:14.18pts Yield:2.78% Bank:114.18pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clotty Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Because system B was in the red, I only backed System A selections... and missed all the winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traf Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey If you back both A and B, you will have steady profits, regardless of each system's individual performance on any given day. Keep up the good work WFTE. You're a superstar!:notworthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooster Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey You're rigt WFTE 8/1 it was. I was thinking about the 9/1 I took :nana Rooster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted April 14, 2006 Author Share Posted April 14, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Two double selections for tommorrow, neither forecast below 2/1 though. Selections for Saturday SYSTEM A 1.50 Hay - Launde RPF:7/2 3.25 Hay - Polar Gunner RPF:3/1 3.30 Car - Clemax RPF:8/1 SYSTEM B 2.00 Car - Show Me The River RPF:4/5 3.25 Hay - Polar Gunner RPF:3/1 3.30 Car - Clemax RPF:8/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtw1 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Will be interesting to see if the S.P looks like being 2-1 or under before the 'off' as then POLAR GUNNER could well be a bet !! Good work WFTE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Well it never went to 2/1 but was a winner anyway! SYSTEM A 1.50 Hay - Launde - UP 3.25 Hay - Polar Gunner - 1st 7/2 3.30 Car - Clemax - 2nd 5/1 SYSTEM B 2.00 Car - Show Me The River - 2nd 8/11 3.25 Hay - Polar Gunner - 1st 7/2 3.30 Car - Clemax - 2nd 8/11 Roundup SYSTEM A Bets:111 Winners:40 Strikerate:36.36% Profit:208.13pts Yield:37.84% Bank:308.13pts SYSTEM B Bets:109 Winners:42 Strikerate:38.53% Profit:21.68pts Yield:4.09% Bank:121.68pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Again two double selections. This time they're both forecast shorter than 2/1. Selections for Sunday SYSTEM A 3.10 Tow - Heathcote RPF:11/8 3.30 Plu - Mr Boo RPF:5/6 3.40 Tow - Malko De Beaumont RPF:5/1 SYSTEM B 3.10 Tow - Heathcote RPF:11/8 3.30 Plu - Mr Boo RPF:5/6 4.50 Mus - Alfonso RPF:10/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtw1 Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Backed FOREST GUNNER myself ,quite chuffed it wasn't under 2-1 :tongue2 Nice one WFTE. Looking forward to Sunday's races :cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Forest Gunner??? :unsure :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtw1 Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Sorry that should be POLAR GUNNER , thats what the drink does:gimme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted April 16, 2006 Author Share Posted April 16, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey You got to love those double selections!!:nana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted April 16, 2006 Author Share Posted April 16, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey SYSTEM A 3.10 Tow - Heathcote - 1st 9/4 3.30 Plu - Mr Boo - 1st 1/2 3.40 Tow - Malko De Beaumont - NR SYSTEM B 3.10 Tow - Heathcote - 1st 9/4 3.30 Plu - Mr Boo - 1st 1/2 4.50 Mus - Alfonso - 3rd 7/1 Roundup SYSTEM A Bets:113 Winners:42 Strikerate:37.17% Profit:221.88pts Yield:39.62% Bank:321.88pts SYSTEM B Bets:112 Winners:44 Strikerate:39.29% Profit:30.43pts Yield:5.64% Bank:130.43pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted April 16, 2006 Author Share Posted April 16, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Selections for Monday SYSTEM A 2.40 Hun - Party Games RPF:6/4 3.50 Hun - Ultimate Limit RPF:5/1 4.00 Red - Mezuzah RPF:8/1 SYSTEM B 2.20 Sed - Character Building RPF:6/4 3.05 Plu - Denarius Secundus RPF:7/2 4.15 Plu - Fantastic Arts RPF:13/8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtw1 Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Join Date: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 5,135 Re: Winning with Massey You got to love those double selections!!:nana __________________ Too bloody right mate :clap , HEATHCOTE drifted nicely:lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtw1 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Record of horses in both systems and odds 2-1 or under - 1st,unp,1st,3rd,1st,1st,1st,1st,1st,1st,3rd,1st,1s t,1st,1st,1st,2nd,1st, 1st. Only allowed for MR BOO in this section as HEATHCOTE went out to 9-4 [:nana ] The System Within A System System !!! BETS - 19 STRIKE RATE - 15 PROFIT - 102.70 pts [to a 10 pt level stake] YEILD - 54.05% Assuming a 10 pt win stake on all horses named on both system A+ B , at S.P odds no greater then 2-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Well done with this WFTE. Massey is certainly enjoying a nice purple patch. Looking at his top-rated alone he is 106.9% RTOI (jumps) and 102.9% RTOI (flat) for 2006 compared with the last few years where he finished below 100%. (30% runners withing 90days applied) I know there is more to it than blandly looking at the top rated (I've sussed what you're doing with the 2 selection criteria mate ;) ) but I'm particularly interested in the dual selections doing so well. It's just a shame you cannot backtrack and research how these would've fared over past seasons. All the best Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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