WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Just a little test I want to try out using Masseys ratings. Complelty untested so could be a huge failure but lets give it a papertrial. Theres two systems, A and B,and Ill give details if any happen to bear fruit. Both will start with 100pts and be level stakes of 5pts. Selections for Saturday. SYSTEM A 2.40 New - Presenting Express RPF:4/1 3.15 New - Non So RPF:10/1 3.45 New - Anticipating RPF:8/1 SYSTEM B 2.00 Hay - Border Castle RPF:4/6 2.30 Hay - Westernmost RPF:5/1 4.55 New - Pepporoni Pete RPF:13/8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socky1 Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Surley it cant be !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 3, 2006 Author Share Posted March 3, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey :unsure :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey WorkingForTheEnemy Good Luck mate :hope Massey ratings are very highly regarded. i used to use them as part of a system which also included Towerform ratings and ATR speed ratings it was doing ok as well then Towerform decided you had to pay for theirs which i wasn't prepared to do. the Adrian Massey sight has loads of good stuff on it. i hope it goes well :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Knows Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Haydock abandoned !!! - good luck with other selections... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Well, a mixed bag today with 2 races abandoned,1 non runner, 2 places and a winner. SYSTEM A 2.40 New - Presenting Express - 1st 9/2 3.15 New - Non So - NR 3.45 New - Anticipating - 3rd 8/1 SYSTEM B 2.00 Hay - Border Castle - Abandoned 2.30 Hay - Westernmost - Abandoned 4.55 New - Pepporoni Pete - 3rd 8/11 Roundup SYSTEM A Bets:2 Winners:1 Strikerate:50% Profit:17.50pts Yield:175% Bank:117.50pts SYSTEM B Bets:1 Winners:0 Strikerate:0% Profit:-5.00pts Yield:-100% Bank:95pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Ralphie Ive looked at Massey's ratings many times since getting into racing a few years ago. The thing that still amazes me is how they continue to throw up a profit year in year out. Im not hoping for miracles with these as the selection process is as simple as can be but sometimes systems can get far too complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey WorkingForTheEnemy sometimes systems can get far too complicated agreed mate a nice start anyway :ok its a shame about the Abandoned Meetings really wish you the best with this :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 5, 2006 Author Share Posted March 5, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Selections for Sunday. SYSTEM A 2.30 Hunt - Something Wells RPF:3/1 3.00 Hunt - Amarula Ridge RPF:9/4 4.00 Hunt - Make My Hay RPF:11/2 SYSTEM B 2.30 Hunt - Something Wells RPF:3/1 4.30 Hunt - Lambrini Bianco RPF:8/1 5.00 Hunt - Theatre Dance RPF:7/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Good luck WFTE! :) I'm a fan too. Must've spent more hours on his site than Betfair! :eek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 5, 2006 Author Share Posted March 5, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Roll on some decent weather. All bets void due to Huntingdon being abandoned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 5, 2006 Author Share Posted March 5, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Selections for Monday. SYSTEM A 3.10 Here - Amicelli RPF:4/5 3.40 Here - Oscatello RPF:11/8 4.40 Here - Return Home RPF:6/1 SYSTEM B 2.50 Wol - Piper General RPF:7/2 3.40 Here - Oscatello RPF:11/8 5.10 Here - Nailed On RPF:4/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangeboglikething Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Hi folks. Has anyone tried the ratings on the racingguide site.I combined these with the racingpost ratings and have had some good wins.Massey ratings are OK but they have taken a bit of a dive over the last couple of years.Massey is a good site for analysing racing but I have to say that I have found lots of mistakes in the "reports" generated by the data base. Use the reports section with caution. Cheers Strangeboglikething Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgej Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey What are the mistakes in the reports??! Is it because of the form being only UK as opposed to UK + Ireland? Or something else you have noticed? Still classed as a noob with that site so all advice welcome. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangeboglikething Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Hi Georgi, Most of the problems I have encountered concerns the custom reports section. You can type in a load of variables and get one result,then a day or so later the same variables bring in another result even though there has been no qualifyers for the system over the last few days. It is a massive on-line database and it is bound to have gliches.There is also a lot of inconsistency with other reports like favourites and race-types. I wouldn't say these problems are exactly earth shattering but there is definately a taboo about discussing them on the Adrian Massey forum. The problems arise when you have developed a system for outsiders.If the system produces a profit but from a very low strike rate then the mistakes in the Database could then mean the difference between profit and loss. Having said all that it is quite a good site and its free.I think the ratings have taken a bit of a hammering the last few yeras because the program that creates the ratings hasn't been updated in about 5 years.Things have changed a lot over the last 5 years and the program should really be re-vamped. Cheers Strangeboglikething Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chala Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Good luck with this WFTE.:ok I tried to use massey's ratings for a backing system last year, but after a good start, it went downhill very quickly. Having said that, I still think they have a lot of substance, as I used them for my laying system, which proved pretty profitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey 2 winners in one system, one in the other. Not the best of prices but better than losers. SYSTEM A 3.10 Here - Amicelli - 1st 4/11 3.40 Here - Oscatello - 1st 5/4 4.40 Here - Return Home - UP SYSTEM B 2.50 Wol - Piper General - UP 3.40 Here - Oscatello - 1st 5/4 5.10 Here - Nailed On - 3rd 9/2 Roundup SYSTEM A Bets:5 Winners:3 Strikerate:60% Profit:20.57pts Yield:82.28% Bank:120.57pts SYSTEM B Bets:4 Winners:1 Strikerate:25% Profit:-8.75pts Yield:-43.75% Bank:91.25pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Selections for Tuesday. SYSTEM A 2.20 Exe - Just For Men RPF:9/1 2.50 Exe - Heros Collonges RPF:8/13 4.50 Exe - Tora Bora RPF:3/1 SYSTEM B 2.50 Exe - Heros Collonges RPF:8/13 3.20 Exe - Lady Maranzi RPF:4/1 5.10 Sou - Favouring RPF:13/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 8, 2006 Author Share Posted March 8, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Not a good day yesterday especially with a odds-on double selection letting us down. SYSTEM A 2.20 Exe - Just For Men - 3rd 6/1 2.50 Exe - Heros Collonges - UP 4.50 Exe - Tora Bora - PU SYSTEM B 2.50 Exe - Heros Collonges - UP 3.20 Exe - Lady Maranzi - NR 5.10 Sou - Favouring - UP Roundup SYSTEM A Bets:8 Winners:3 Strikerate:37.5% Profit:5.57pts Yield:13.93% Bank:105.57pts SYSTEM B Bets:6 Winners:1 Strikerate:16.67% Profit:-18.75pts Yield:-62.50% Bank:81.25pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 8, 2006 Author Share Posted March 8, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Although Fontwell has been abandoned, Im sticking with the original selections leaving just one bet per system. Selections for Wednesday. SYSTEM A 3.00 Catt - The Dukes Speech RPF:9/4 3.20 Font - Rosetown 3.50 Font - Kilty Storm SYSTEM B 3.20 Font - Rosetown 3.50 Font - Kilty Storm 4.00 Catt - Brave Rebellion RPF:7/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 8, 2006 Author Share Posted March 8, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey SYSTEM A 3.00 Catt - The Dukes Speech - 1st EVS 3.20 Font - Rosetown - Abandoned 3.50 Font - Kilty Storm - Abandoned SYSTEM B 3.20 Font - Rosetown - Abandoned 3.50 Font - Kilty Storm - Abandoned 4.00 Catt - Brave Rebellion - 3rd 6/5 Roundup SYSTEM A Bets:9 Winners:4 Strikerate:44.44% Profit:10.57pts Yield:23.49% Bank:110.57pts SYSTEM B Bets:7 Winners:1 Strikerate:14.29% Profit:-23.75pts Yield:-67.86% Bank:76.25pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 8, 2006 Author Share Posted March 8, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Selections for Thursday. SYSTEM A 3.15 Car - According To John RPF:15/8 3.40 Tow - Lord Olympia RPF:11/8 3.50 Car - Dickie Lewis RPF:5/2 SYSTEM B 3.15 Car - According To John RPF:15/8 3.30 Win - Raregem RPF:8/13 3.40 Tow - Lord Olympia RPF:11/8 There were several horses that came very close that should be nicer prices. Im going to mark them down to see how they do but the results wont count towards the system. A 2.10 Car - Windy Hills RPF:9/2 2.20 Win - Zimbabwe RPF:6/1 4.40 Win - Hiers De Brouage RPF:10/1 B 2.00 Tow - Avanti Tiger RPF:8/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey The nearly qualifiers didnt manage a place between them so its lucky they missed out. The systems produced a few winners even though at short prices. SYSTEM A 3.15 Car - According To John - 1st 11/8 3.40 Tow - Lord Olympia - 3rd 8/11 3.50 Car - Dickie Lewis - UP SYSTEM B 3.15 Car - According To John - 1st 11/8 3.30 Win - Raregem - 1st 4/5 3.40 Tow - Lord Olympia - 3rd 8/11 Roundup SYSTEM A Bets:12 Winners:5 Strikerate:41.67% Profit:7.45pts Yield:12.42% Bank:107.45pts SYSTEM B Bets:10 Winners:3 Strikerate:30% Profit:-17.87pts Yield:-35.74% Bank:82.13pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 10, 2006 Author Share Posted March 10, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Once again the systems ahve picked out a few the same but thats the way it goes. Selections for Friday. SYSTEM A 3.00 Ayr - Ever Present RPF: 7/4 3.15 San - Inca Trail RPF: 4/7 4.10 Ayr - Frankie Dori RPF: 8/1 SYSTEM B 3.15 San - Inca Trail RPF: 4/7 4.10 Ayr - Frankie Dori RPF: 8/1 4.25 San - First Love RPF: 11/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 10, 2006 Author Share Posted March 10, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey A good day for the systems today. 2 winners each and a shared selection coming 2nd @ 8/1. SYSTEM A 3.00 Ayr - Ever Present - 1st 10/11 3.15 San - Inca Trail - 1st 5/6 4.10 Ayr - Frankie Dori - 2nd 8/1 SYSTEM B 3.15 San - Inca Trail - 1st 5/6 4.10 Ayr - Frankie Dori - 2nd 8/1 4.25 San - First Love - 1st 15/8 Roundup SYSTEM A Bets:15 Winners:7 Strikerate:46.67% Profit:11.17pts Yield:14.89% Bank:111.17pts SYSTEM B Bets:13 Winners:5 Strikerate:38.46% Profit:-9.32pts Yield:-14.34% Bank:90.68pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 10, 2006 Author Share Posted March 10, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Selections for Saturday. SYSTEM A 3.20 San - Victram RPF:9/1 4.25 San - Hoo La Baloo RPF:1/2 5.25 Chep - Canavan RPF:7/2 SYSTEM B 3.40 Chep - Supreme Toss RPF:1/3 4.25 San - Hoo La Baloo RPF:1/2 5.05 Ayr - Ideal Du Bois Beury RPF:11/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey SYSTEM A 3.20 San - Victram - 1st 8/1 4.25 San - Hoo La Baloo - 1st 4/11 5.25 Chep - Canavan - UP SYSTEM B 3.40 Chep - Supreme Toss - UP 4.25 San - Hoo La Baloo - 1st 4/11 5.05 Ayr - Ideal Du Bois Beury - NR Roundup SYSTEM A Bets:18 Winners:9 Strikerate:50% Profit:47.99pts Yield:53.32% Bank:147.99pts SYSTEM B Bets:15 Winners:6 Strikerate:40% Profit:-12.50pts Yield:-16.67% Bank:87.50pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Selections for Sunday. SYSTEM A 2.15 Mar - Oscatello RPF:4/7 3.30 War - Finzi RPF:4/1 4.45 Mar - Rude Health RPF:4/1 SYSTEM B 2.15 Mar - Oscatello RPF:4/7 2.45 Mar - Custom Design RPF:11/8 4.30 War - Knife Edge RPF:4/5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted March 12, 2006 Author Share Posted March 12, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey A good day with five winning bets and a second. SYSTEM A 2.15 Mar - Oscatello - 1st 1/3 3.30 War - Finzi - 2nd 11/4 4.45 Mar - Rude Health - 1st 3/1 SYSTEM B 2.15 Mar - Oscatello - 1st 1/3 2.45 Mar - Custom Design - 1st 4/7 4.30 War - Knife Edge - 1st 5/6 Roundup SYSTEM A Bets:21 Winners:11 Strikerate:52.38% Profit:56.82pts Yield:53.32% Bank:159.66pts SYSTEM B Bets:18 Winners:9 Strikerate:50% Profit:-3.80pts Yield:-4.22% Bank:96.20pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Re: Winning with Massey Nice going today mate :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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