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Home Away Player Sell Buy Mid Fair Lay Back Best
Barcelona B Munich Depay 28 30 29 2.27 2.04 2.50 2.75
Malmo Juventus Morata 29 30 29.5 2.24 2.02 2.47 2.4
Malmo Juventus Dybala 27 28 27.5 2.36 2.13 2.60 2.4
Villarreal Atalanta Moreno 24 26 25 2.54 2.29 2.80 2.5
Lille Wolfsburg Weghorst 22 23 22.5 2.76 2.48 3.04 2.7
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Home Away Player Sell Buy Mid Fair Lay Back Best
Inter R Madrid Martinez 22 24 23 2.71 2.44 2.98 2.7
Inter R Madrid Benzema 25 28 26.5 2.43 2.19 2.67 2.5
A Madrid Porto Suarez 24 27 25.5 2.50 2.25 2.75 2.25
Liverpool AC Milan Salah 32 35 33.5 2.05 1.84 2.25 1.833
Liverpool AC Milan Jota 21 24 22.5 2.76 2.48 3.04 2.625
Man C RB Leipzig Torres 27 28 27.5 2.36 2.13 2.60 2.5
Man C RB Leipzig Mahrez 24 27 25.5 2.50 2.25 2.75 2.625
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I've pulled the bets/returns into a table so it's easier to post updates from now on.

Selection Bets Winners P/L ROI
Back at “fair” odds 126 47 -5.19 -4.12%
Lay at “lay” odds 126 79 15.69 9.19%
Back at “back” odds 126 47 6.89 5.47%
Back at best odds 126 47 -7.52 -5.97%
Back if best >”back” odds 55 20 -0.89 -1.61%
Matched Lays 14 10 20.39 13.06%
Sell player goal mins 126 87 240 7.76%
Buy player goal mins 126 38 -464 -13.95%

"Fair" odds = those implied by the mid-point of the spread

"Lay" odds = "Fair" odds less a 10% edge

"Back" odds = "Fair" odds plus a 10% edge

Best odds = best readily available to me on Oddschecker

All bets recorded to a 1 point stake except the matched lays (where I was fully or partly matched on a requested 10 point lay).

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Home Away Player Sell Buy Mid Fair Lay Back Best
H Berlin G Furth Belfodil 23 26 24.5 2.58 2.32 2.84 2.875
Sassuolo Torino Beradi 27 28 27.5 2.36 2.13 2.60 2.625
Sassuolo Torino Raspadori 21 22 21.5 2.86 2.58 3.15 2.75
Celta Vigo Cadiz Aspas 30 33 31.5 2.14 1.93 2.35 2.18
Newcastle Leeds Bamford 24 26 25 2.54 2.29 2.80 2.5
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Selection Bets Winners P/L ROI
Back at “fair” odds 157 56 -12.59 -8.02%
Lay at “lay” odds 157 101 24.93 11.72%
Back at “back” odds 157 56 1.75 1.12%
Back at best odds 157 56 -14.82 -9.44%
Back if best >”back” odds 71 24 -6.26 -8.82%
Matched Lays 17 10 14.26 8.80%
Sell player goal mins 157 111 633 16.52%
Buy player goal mins 157 43 -917 -22.24%

Latest figures are more in line with my expectations with backing at the "back" odds moving closer to a break even proposition rather than a profitable one. In terms of potential strategies my current take is as follows;

LAYING: Laying at the "lay" odds would be profitable but I've only been matched on 17 out of 157 players and only fully matched on 10 of them so I'd say it's not really viable. You could try laying at the "fair" odds but I'm not sure that would increase the matched rate that much. Laying at the best odds on Oddschecker could be a viable strategy but I suspect it's already a popular one judging by how often you can see a lot of players on offer at the exact same price. I suspect some people simply copy the OC odds and put them up on BF.

BACKING: If it does turn out that the "back" odds are, in reality, closer to the genuine true odds then I'd need to revise my idea of what is the minimum price I should be looking to back at. It might be a stretch to get on at true odds plus a 10% edge but I suspect it would happen more often than getting matched on a lay bet with the same edge. I'll rethink when the sample size gets to 200 (in terms of possibly putting up some small trial back requests to see if they get matched).

SELLING: Maybe the blindingly obvious is staring me in the face and the solution is simply to forget about backing or laying in the fixed odds markets and just sell. I'll do some analysis of profit by price in terms of seeing if there's a sensible minimum price point (it takes a lot longer to recover a big loss with winning sells at 20 relative to at 35).

BUYING: Don't even go there!

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I must be bonkers but as this is a relatively quiet betting day for me (no early games and no rugby or NFL) I've had a go at laying players at best price on Odds Checker. 6 games in Italy and Spain, I've layed any player who is no bigger than 3/1. That's seen me lay a total of 37 players (for £3 each). None matched so far, I'll give an update on how it goes. 

In quite a few cases I'm offering the best price so far. It would be nice to get matched on a few players who come on as subs as that would mean there was definitely some value in the lay. So far, laying at best odds would have returned an ROI of just over 10% (assuming you were matched on every selection).

 

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