WSOP Update

[cains]

Just fell over this on cardplayer... The player in seat 4 at table 128 has found a way to "mask" his emotions at the poker table . When he is in a hand he puts on a giant authentic Elmo costume head. That's right, Elmo. From Sesame Street. The T.V. show. :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

[stereoman]

Re: WSOP Update An absolute massacre with various high-profile casualties on day 1a and they still haven't finished playing after 13 hours! Only ten more players to lose and that's it for a couple of days for these players! :eek ....would you have thought Shannon Elizabeth and Lucy Liu would still be in the running?! :rollin Cardplayer is OK, PokerPages is alright but I find Poker Wire to be pretty darn quick on who's been knocked out. It wasn't pretty, but he'll take it With only about 8k left, Toto Leonidas pushed in in middle position. He was called with [Q][Q] and he chuckled when he turned over [5][3]. The flop offered some hope with [A♠][6♥][2♣] and the turn paired him up with the [3♠]. The river bailed him out when it delivered the [3♣], giving him the runner-runner prayer. Even Toto shared a laugh, knowing he had cheated poker death. :lol

[guesswest]

Re: WSOP Update Can anyone point me in the direction of a site with decent coverage of the ME? The official site blows

[stereoman]

Re: WSOP Update Harrah's website is indeed rubbish. As I've said try: * Cardplayer * PokerPages * Poker Wire Gutshot are also doing their own coverage through a mini-site on their home page although a little slow as to real time what's happening compared to the opposition, it's pretty alright considering the lack of variety out there. Some of the poker bloggers are doing their damndest to cover the event and I quite like Tao of Poker although he only does it for a few hours.

[stereoman]

Re: WSOP Update From the Tao of Poker: 12:30am... Featured Table update: More Hellmuthian hijinks! Phil made a huge laydown. He had A-K and flop trips on a flop of A-A-4. His opponent had a full house with A-4 and Phil shouted out to his wife, "Honey, I should have gone broke on that hand!" Then he stood up and pointed at the guy with the full house, "I betcha didn't know. I can dodge bullets, baby!" :lol

[Jezza]

Re: WSOP Update Yep...excellent fold it has to be said. He turned up over 2 hrs late apparently, in a limo, flanked by 2 private security guards and a personal section of the ESPN TV crew :rollin As one internet site said - you would think he was turning up for a heads up title fight showdown, not a lotto style 6000-1 gamble fest :lol Jez

[laidbackbloke]

Re: WSOP Update Yeah.......... damn good fold

[Jezza]

Re: WSOP Update A friend of mine from the local casino game has made it through the first day! From pokerpages.com..... "Andrew Gray Aberdeen, Scotland $31,175 " He is a top bloke and a good loose aggressive poker player. I know several people who qualified but out of them all I tipped andy to be the one with the biggest chance to do something. This is mainly because he really doesnt give a fcuk about losing (first hand of the day or if he is 2nd chipleader before the bubble up against the chipleader) and will happily raise people all in left right and centre. The upshot of this is he generally either busts early or wins every chip on the table - just what is needed to have a chance in something like this. He qualified on laddies only a month or two ago for 4 dollars. I will have to check today and tomorrows results to see if anyone else I know personally made it through but COME ON ANDY!!!!!! :clap :clap :hope Jez

[laidbackbloke]

Re: WSOP Update :clap :clap :clap hope he does well good luck to him :hope

[Jezza]

Hellmuth Gone!!! :eek Phil Hellmuth Eliminated Log: Phil Hellmuth had a horrible hour at the featured table. He was finally all in with Ad-Qh against Paul "X-22" Magriel's pocket sevens (7h-7d). The crowd was mixed in their support, with some rooting for Phil, and some against him. (Oddly enough, nobody seemed to be for Magriel, just against Hellmuth.) It was a race situation as the flop came Jc-9h-4c. Hellmuth didn't improve, and was now drawing pretty thin, needing to catch a queen, an ace, or a runner-runner straight to stay alive. The turn card paired the board with the 9s, and the river card was the 5d. Phil Hellmuth, who had an excellent day on Friday, had the bottom drop out after midnight, and was eliminated from the Main Event. As he was leaving, he said to his wife, "That was the worst hour of poker in my life." The way he said it made it unclear whether he was referring to the cards or the players. :eek

[Jezza]

Re: WSOP Update I should have said before...hellmuth very quickly accumulated a lot of chips at the start of the day. Turning his starting stack of 10k into 50k after a few hours play....to be eliminated on the same day is a brutal turn around. Jez

[cains]

Re: WSOP Update It must be hot inside...

[cains]

Re: WSOP Update information for all you guys that play live games as well.... Taken from wsop This tournament has just had two simultaneous, brilliant examples of why you see players putting chips and various other objects on top of their hole cards. It´s not just for show. Instance #1 - With the board showing A-J-8-J-2 a player with a made full house (8-8 in his hand) decides to posture for a bit. He stands up, and acts as if he´s got a difficult decision to make. Finally he sits back down, picks up his cards, puts them in front of his chips, and starts to count out his bet. As he´s counting, the dealer takes his cards and slides them into the muck. The man disputes the call, and the floor is called. The floor reinforces the dealer´s explanation: it is the player´s responsibility to protect his or her hand. Once a card has been mucked, it cannot be retrieved. The hand is dead. Instance #2 - Meanwhile, on another table, just as the dealer is explaining to the player in seat #1 that he should always protect his hand, the player in seat #2 attempts to fold, and accidentally tosses them on top of seat #1´s cards. The floor´s ruling is the same: always protect your hand. If your cards touch mucked cards, your hand is also dead. The player in this case was forced to leave his $200 call in the pot. In a show of remorse, seat #2 attempts to reimburse the man for his lost $200 bet, and although the floorman respects the decision, he also states that chip exchange is also illegal, and cannot occur.

[stereoman]

Re: WSOP Update First prize has just been announced: $7,500,000. All players who make the nine handed Final Table will make at least $1,000,000. Paying 560 with the 'in the money' positions paying $12,500. 5619 players Prize Pool: $52.8 Million (Harrah's taking their chunk) First place = $7.5M Second = $4.25M Third = $2.M Top 560 players will be paid 560th place will get $12,500

[stereoman]

Re: WSOP Update If anyone was betting on which of the four Hendon Mob members would survive the longest, Joe Beevers is the winner with the Boatman brothers and Ram Vaswani all busting out on their first days. Joe's survived to play on 'day 2'. I'm pissed off as he was 5/2 and I didn't want to gamble! :sad Date/Time: 2005-07-09 21:49:00 Title: Emad "The Arabian Beast" Alabsi Bluff's the Waiter Log: Emad "The Arabian Beast" Alabsi was sitting on the rail, when a waiter, we'll name him Gary Turnbuckle to protect the innocent, came walking by. Alabsi was parched, and politely asked Hookerpants for a bottle of water. "I can only serve players sir," Turnbuckle said. "I'm sorry." "I am a player," Alabsi replied. "You are?" Turnbuckle asked, as "The Arabian Beast" went into his pocket and pulled out an equally beastly bankroll, and peeled off two crisp $1 bills. "What seat are you in?" Turnbuckle asked as he continued his interrogation. "Table 136 seat 7." Alabsi replied with the icey calm of a gambler. Turnbuckle went into the tank, and then extended a trembling hand filled with ice cold spring water. Alabsi handed him the two fresh Washingtons, and the transaction was complete. Turnbuckle went on his merry way, to serve "other" players. Though as soon as he was out of sight Alabsi turned to the CardPlayer.com desk and winked. "You like that?" Alabsi asked. We do Emad. You truly are an "Arabian Beast." Turnbuckle didn't even know he was had until he came back through the area, and let Alabsi know that the gig was up. "Someone's in your seat, buddy." Turnbuckle told Alabsi. Alabsi got the best of it this time. It's no wonder he survived Day 1 of the Main Event, and is still alive in the hunt for World Series gold. :rollin

[Jezza]

Re: WSOP Update Another of my mates made it through last night..... Daniel Bergsdorf Umea $65,875 A great guy I met on the ladbrokes cruise...he has a decent amount of chips as well, the average is 30k. He never got his seat for as cheap as andy tho, I think daniel told me it cost him 3k :lol Day "2" proper starts tonight with them all in action COME ON DANIEL AND ANDY!!! :hope Jez

[Jezza]

Re: WSOP Update Well after a hard days play they have stopped the action.....9 places before the money... It must be a killer sitting on one of the bottom 20 stacks tonight and going to bed wondering if you are going to get the money/how you are going to play. They just this second posted the official chip counts for all 569 players left on cardplayer and on first inspection it looks like andy has gone :( however lying in 17th place in the whole tournament out of 569 is my good friend of from ladbrokes cruise.... 17 Daniel Bergsdorf 278,600 Chips What a position to be sitting in, there is a long way to go yet but you would be loving it wouldn't you! CMON DANIEL!!!! Jez

[Markpl1]

Re: WSOP Update An interesting player left is placed 9th overnight. He is called Greg Raymer anyone heard of him!!!!!!! Bet he has just got lucky. Others of interest 6. Lee Watkinson (wpt fame) 14. Michael "The Grinder" Mizrachi 63. Layne Flack 83. Sammy Farha 130. John Juanda 152. Joe Beevers 156. Howard Lederer 162. Mike "The Mouth" Matasouw 259. Phil Ivey

[guesswest]

Re: WSOP Update Raymer is a very talented tournament player, I'm sure he got lucky along the way to triumph in a field that size last year, but his game is most definitely worthy of a final table - I'd not be surprised to see him there again. Moneymaker on the other hand...........

[Markpl1]

Re: WSOP Update The lucky comment was meant to be sarcastic. Raymer is alot better than people gave him credit for. He was playing reasonably high stakes for a while before winning the big one. He also played the main event in 2002 and 2003 i believe. Seems like a geniune bloke as well. So best of luck to him. Lets hope he gets heads up with "the mouth" that would be interesting.

[guesswest]

Re: WSOP Update I took it as sarcastic, I was just agreeing with you really. Agreed also that he comes accross as a nice guy. Stacked now with 186 in, and on Matusow's table again -should be interesting, wish I still had ESPN.

[Oskar]

Re: WSOP Update Chip leader going into Day 4 He couldnt, could he?

[Jezza]

Re: WSOP Update I think raymer last year was a very deserving champion...... OK so he won a lot of coin flips, he also caught a few cards in some pots. ANYONE who wins a large MTT has to win their coinflips along the way and almost certainly will have caught a few cards at key times - it doesn't change the fact he is a great player. I saw a documentary on him once where he talked about card couting at blackjack for 10 minutes. These 10 minutes alone really impressed me as he clearly knew his stuff about pro gambling in general - also came across as a decent bloke (unlike arieh who came across as a total dick :lol). Moneymaker on the other hand - people slag him off and I agree he is not as good as raymer HOWEVER..... If you remember the 2003 WSOP there was a key hand he played with dutch boyd very deep into the tournament. Both him and boyd had very large chip stacks in relation to the rest of the table. Moneymaker raises preflop with 33, boyd flat calls with KQ. The flop comes 10 6 4 (or some equivalent...three overcards but no paint). Boyd checks and moneymaker makes a decent bet. Boyd then check-raises all in (for all money makers chips...if he folds he still has a large stack). Moneymaker thinks for a while before telling the dealer "keep em low" and calling, turning over his 33. You have to give him credit for this - almost all of us would fold in that spot and you would probably be lying if you said otherwise, not only did he make a read that was spot on he had the balls to risk his whole tournament and a great position on it. His 33 held up and that gave him the chips he went on to win with. Boyd looks sick afterwards and can only muster a "that was a hell of a call man". Yes he gave out some sick outdraws - noteably against ivey with 10 players left - but that call on its own is one of a world champion IMO. Anyway onto this years tourney...it is hotting up nicely and they are into the money DANIEL IS STILL IN THE TOP 20 NOW WITH 580,000 CHIPS - GO ON MY SON!!!! Jez

[stereoman]

Re: WSOP Update Well trying to follow the WSOP, the best place apart from being in Las Vegas (and you won't get that close to where most of the action is at anyway) is online at the various sites/blogs that are covering the event. ESPN are doing nothing right now and start showing the shows in August at the earliest. Can't wait until some bookies post some odds come closer the end as we'll have match-betting, overall winner betting plus a few other prop bets (I want my £100 back from Blue Square!). Definitely will be final table betting and I can't remember particularly well but I think Greg Raymer was a warm 2/1 favourite with Ladbrokes because of his huge chip lead over the others. I've already lost but I'm looking a right 'nana for even risking £25 with Paddy Power that Erik Seidel would outlast John Juanda. :eyes :lol :nana If Greg Raymer does the seemingly impossible and wins again, it'll say something about him. I think some of the bias going against him (have you read the stuff on the Cardplayer forums?! It's both asinine in the praise and negativity towards the guy) is because he's a fat lad and there aren't too many famous fat lads out there who are getting praised for being good in their various gigs. Greg Raymer has done what most of the pros haven't and I'll suggest it's his ability to steer the fish into carrying out bad decisions, generally hold on to a chip lead and being able to mix it with the more recognized pros (anyone who saw the British Poker Open final on The Poker Channel where he finished third might disagree slightly when he needlessly called someone's all-in with A2o! The other fella Adam Dujmovic had him dominated with an ace and a much better kicker (an eight I think) and the kicker played). Rightfully or wrongfully, Greg Raymer could become a WSOP legend and it won't be his fault as all he's don e is play some fantastic poker to do so.

[guesswest]

Re: WSOP Update End of day four, in case anyones interested:

1	Tim Phan	$ 3,244,000
2	Mike Matusow	$ 2,561,000
3	Farzad Bonyadi	$ 2,402,000
4	Steve Dannenmann	$ 2,143,000
5	Phil Ivey	$ 2,027,000
6	Tex Barch	$ 2,025,000
7	Tiffany Williamson	$ 1,992,000
8	Johnny Howard	$ 1,806,000
9	Scott Lazar	$ 1,629,000
10	Tuan 'Tommy' Vu	$ 1,571,000
11	Bart Rice	$ 1,414,000
12	Raymi Sanchesz Thorn	$ 1,288,000
13	Lee Watkinson	$ 1,221,000
14	Tom Sartori	$ 1,208,000
15	Daniel Bergsdorf	$ 1,144,000
16	Brad Kondracki	$ 1,136,000
17	Minh Ly	$ 1,102,000
18	Terry Burt	$ 1,080,000
19	Steve Marx	$ 1,042,000
20	Per Hildebrand	$ 1,017,000
21	Michael Kessler	$ 986,000
22	Shahram 'Shawn' Sheikhan	$ 983,000
23	Patrick Hayden	$ 972,000
24	Dustin Woolf	$ 968,000
25	John Juanda	$ 841,000
26	Joseph Hachem	$ 814,000
27	Nick Gibson	$ 811,000
28	John McGrane	$ 780,880
29	Aaron Kanter	$ 778,000
30	Ayhan Alsancak	$ 775,000
31	Greg 'Fossilman' Raymer	$ 766,000
32	Radu Butan	$ 762,000
33	Bing Wang	$ 739,000
34	Oskar Silow	$ 720,000
35	Adam Friedman	$ 719,000
36	James Butt	$ 716,000
37	Russell 'The Muscle' Salzer	$ 710,000
38	Bryant King	$ 702,000
39	Franklin Caldwell	$ 690,000
40	Yakov Hirsch	$ 658,000
41	Joe Connor	$ 641,000
42	Mark Forrester	$ 628,000
43	Karlo Lopez	$ 607,000
44	Joe Stillman	$ 584,000
45	Kevin Kaikko	$ 571,000
46	Tony Abesamis	$ 513,000
47	Kenna James	$ 510,000
48	Hung La	$ 505,000
49	David Richardson	$ 501,000
50	Roland Israelashvici	$ 469,000
51	Will O'Brien	$ 423,000
52	Bernard Lee	$ 379,000
53	Andrew Black	$ 371,000
54	Conor Tate	$ 368,000
55	Derek Dix	$ 202,000
56	Rod Pardey Jr.	$ 187,000
57	Larry Prugh	$ 166,000
58	Jarl Lindholt Jorgensen	$ 101,000

[heniek31]

Re: WSOP Update Im sure, I saw that some of Sky channels show WSOP. Any one knows?

[Jezza]

Re: WSOP Update Yes Sky show the WSOP...challenge tv buy ESPNs coverage of it, but its not live, not even in america - we will probably get this about 9-10 months from now :( Daniel is in 15th....over a million chips.....COME ON MY SON :hope :hope

[Plow-King]

Re: WSOP Update He sounds like he can play a bit:clap

[Markpl1]

Re: WSOP Update As far as i know there are 5 brits left in that field. Tiffany Williamson the only women left is from London. Nick Gibson who is a regular on the live scene at home. Conor Tate, Andrew Black and Michael Kessler are also from the UK

[stereoman]

Re: WSOP Update Not excatly the best market but odds from Centrebet to win the WSOP: IVEY, Phil (USA) 4.00 RAYMER, Greg (USA) 6.00 DANNENMANN, Steven (USA) 8.00 MATUSOW, Mike (USA) 8.00 BARCH, Tex (USA) 11.00 BLACK, Andrew (IRE) 11.00 BERGSBORF, Daniel (SWE) 16.00 HATCHEM, Joseph (AUS) 16.00 KANTER, Aaron (USA) 21.00 KESSLER, Michael (USA) 21.00 LAZAR, Scott (USA) 21.00 LY, Minh (USA) 21.00 PHAN, Tim (USA) 21.00 VU, Tuan (USA) 21.00 KING, Bryant (USA) 34.00 KONDRACKI, Brad (USA) 34.00 SILOW, Oskar (SWE) 34.00 TATE, Conner (ENG) 34.00 CONNOR, Joe (USA) 41.00 LEE, Bernard (USA) 41.00 SARTORI, Tom (USA) 41.00 HOWARD, Johnny (USA) 51.00 WILLIAMSON, Tiffany (ENG) 51.00 HILDEBRAND, Per (SWE) 81.00 MCGRANE, John (ENG) 81.00 SHEIKHAN, Shawn (USA) 101.00 ALSANCAK, Ayhan (SWE) 151.00