mowgli77 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 Fair point' date=' nice to be justified after some random joins the conversation and basically tells you you're **** for absolutely no reason. Yeah feels good. Sorry about the response though emotions are running high after watching balotelli's second![/quote'] It isn't over yet but fair play to you for going against the masses. I always like opposing the favourites in horse racing and will always look to find a value angle in footy or horse racing or whatever sport I'm betting on. We've done a sweepstake at work and doubled up on teams but no one picked out Italy in a random draw, it was left unclaimed. Typical. I had a feeling Balotelli might have a good night and then opted for Gomez first goal because I couldn't find that special bet I mentioned. :wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thefuturespast Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 Fair point' date=' nice to be justified after some random joins the conversation and basically tells you you're **** for absolutely no reason. Yeah feels good. Sorry about the response though emotions are running high after watching balotelli's second![/quote'] Fair call Brooke...and well done. Had Germany the win and also under 2.5. Both looking fairly shot at present :(. Didnt mean to offend and keep up the positive postings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfxup Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 I too believe there is value at Italy outright [email protected] and Italy to [email protected]. For the match specifically I chose to go for BTTS@2.20 which imho is a little gift. I think the game will be open with plenty of chances either side. Whatever happens, I'll enjoy the match I have antepost finalists Spain-Germany@8 and Spain-Italy@19. according to my projections these were the two most likely finals, luckily it went my way Looking sweet :nana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigdh123 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 Well unauthodox (sp?) bt ozil scored lol Italy should of finished them off early on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carat Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 Germany to beat Italy @ 1.909 (Pinnacle) Germany -1 (AH) over Italy @2.87 (Pinnacle) I came very close to backing Italy to beat England a couple of days a go (luckily I did not), but in the end I passed because of two reasons. I didn't know how Italy would handle the loss of Chiellini at the back and I think Italy have been pretty wastefull up front. In hindsight they were still decent at the back, but again managed to squander many opportunities. Not saying Cassano or Balotelli have been bad, but they just don't give you the feeling that they are very likely to score. Di Natale is lethal in front of goal, but he's fysically not good enough for 90 minutes of play and he didn't even play one minute vs. England. Germany on the other hand do have two strikers who have a great scoring record for Germany and they seem more likely to capitalise on their chances. Qualitywise I also think Germany are better then Italy. One can say Schweinsteiger has not been at his best this tournament and Boateng looks shaky at right back, but as a team they have impressed me. Germany is known for getting better and better in big tournaments and I expect a great performance by them tonight. Two days of extra rest won't hurt them either. Could be a huge adventage, expecially with Italy going to penalties vs. England. Just a couple of words on history and H2H. I don't rate it. I read in here that France and England had good records against Spain and Italy, but in the end they got deservedly beaten against teams with more quality. Italy and Germany are not only playing with two totally different teams then years ago, they also play different styles then they used to. Germany, influenced by some "foreign" players, more on technique and Italy playing positive football. I love seeing Italy play, but I think a well rested and fysically strong Germany will be too much for them tonight. A bit dissapointed in Löw for starting the way they did, but in the end Italy deserved to win. They scored at the right times where as the Germans didn't capitalise when they were dominant at the start of both halves. Typically Balotelli to score when I'm on the opposite site and to miss sitters when I'm backing his team :lol. Congratz to everbody backing Italy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase82 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Brooke, calm down with the self massaging of the ego.... If others think you've done well they will say, and be happy with that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavlar17 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 Mowgli - Devastating stuff mate, posting a 33/1 bet on here and being unable to get on. Nothing worse. A great tip nonetheless :ok Had Germany myself tonight but hey-ho... Would love to see Italy slam a few past the Spanish! Feeling an increasing anger towards the slow pace of the Spanish :lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowgli77 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 Mowgli - Devastating stuff mate, posting a 33/1 bet on here and being unable to get on. Nothing worse. A great tip nonetheless :ok Had Germany myself tonight but hey-ho... Would love to see Italy slam a few past the Spanish! Feeling an increasing anger towards the slow pace of the Spanish :lol It didn't come in anyway but it was close. Balotelli nearly did it on his own. Gomez going off was bad for that bet too. It looked a decent price and wasn't far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThusPrider Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 A deserved win for the Italians, and plenty of value on them winning or just backing a +0.5 handicap at around evens, that looked sure to come in watching the game. Well done anyone who backed Italy, but I make a loss of -5 units tonight. Germany started well, and the Italian defense looked extremely shakey and were lucky not to conceade early on. However, from then it was the German's turn to be dodgy in their defence. Two quick long range shots drew comfortable saves out of Neuer but were on target, and then some weak defending allowed the cross to come in to let Mario head in. Germany looked out of sorts and poor, never expected to see this! I was rather annoyed the over 2.5 came in. I as always wanted to back over 2.5, but compared to odds of up to 2.80 for over 2.5 that didn't come in, I hesitated, especially when the odds shortened to 2.50 to 2.40 ish. Infact, I was on the verge of putting a stake on it though 188Bet decided to drift from 2.41 to 2.39 just as I clicked on it. Seriously. Anyways lets not get too greedy. My Midseason record looks even poorer now at a 14 unit loss. At least my Spain outright is still looking good. As much as Italy were the better team tonight, I still fancied Germany to be a tougher test in the final. Midseason 2012 record -14.35 units Total stake 135 units 28/6/12 UEC Germany vs Italy Germany -0.5 1.925 Bet365 5/10 FT 1 - 2 -5 units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThusPrider Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 LOL I wish somebody could explain decimal odds to me, I am in my comfort zone with fractionals almost have a fear of decimals though they are supposedly easier! I think pretty much everybody was surprised by the Italians, I guess that's how they roll when it comes to tournament finals. I gotta say though it's hard going all this cup coverage isn't? Give me the league any day :D You going to be betting on prem games this coming season? Decimal odds are very simple. If you take fractional odds of lets say 6/4, you just divide it to get 1.5, then add 1 on in layman terms. So 10/11 will be 10 divided by 11 = 0.91, then add 1 on to give 1.91. And yes I will be betting on the Premier league. I'd like to say I specialise in that and am the most confident in! :ok Good Job tonight. You must pleased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotoSchillaci Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 My thoughts on this game are that yes Germany are physically superior, taller and faster than the Italians but the Italians have a quality about them I can't fully explain. They have a know how, a way of getting the job done. And in Pirlo they have class that the Germans can't match. Schweinsteiger is a top level player who aspires to control a game to the degree Pirlo can. The Italians have always had an attitude towards the Germans that they are better than them and if they get beaten by Germans then it's something ugly. The Italians don't have the players anymore of once upon a time but tactically they are all very clever and can all be part of a system that's greater than the sum of its components. Remembering back to WC 2010 it was a very tactical battle between these 2 and I bet on 0-0 HT score. It finished 0-0 FT and in extra time italy won 2-0 with a Del Piero finish to remember. It will be a very tough game for Italy but this team has the right coach and tactics to stay in this contest. I don't think it will be 3-0. Think that they'll have a better chance starting with Di Natale though instead of Cassano who for me looks fat and tired. Brooke pointed out in an earlier that Marchisio is really the key man here and this is correct. Hope Prandelli doesn't pull him out again. Germany is nothing for them to fear. Low scoring tactical game here imo. Knew Italy would be well in this game but never expected them to do it so comfortably. :D Alot of people here that were making posts along the lines of Germany are gonna belt Italy full stop need to take a big slice of humble pie. Germany showed a lack of class here when faced with midfield domination and for all the the pre-game talk from Low and how he was going to shut down Pirlo, he still was able to impose his will on the game and snipe out his attackers. Full credit must be given to Brooke for not being swayed by the public opinion and looking at the game for what it was. Well done and hope you can keep picking winners like this for us all :clap Think alot of people watch La Liga and Bayern Munich alot more than Serie A and maybe underestimated what the Italians are capable of and what the Germans lacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckthedog Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 Great result!:nana Beautiful high stakes profit here and a lot easier than what I originally thought. Germany very poor, in the moment of truth you just don't find a leader out there in Germany, in Italy you have a lot more. Some basic defensive mistakes from Germany lost them the game. What a game by Italy though, great passing, always dangerous and they deserve to be in the final no doubt about it. On a side note (for Broke) - I think need to calm down a bit if you want to be taken seriously as a punter. You won a bet, I'm glad, but no reason to gloat so much and call for the heads of your supposed "doubters", you also said bet on a 0-0 or 1-1, and less than 4.5 bookings. Neither cam true. You were kind enough to point out how you were right, but haven't mentioned any of these. Anyhow, congrats to all of us who backed Italy to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg_yid Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 LOL I wish somebody could explain decimal odds to me, I am in my comfort zone with fractionals almost have a fear of decimals though they are supposedly easier! I think pretty much everybody was surprised by the Italians, I guess that's how they roll when it comes to tournament finals. I gotta say though it's hard going all this cup coverage isn't? Give me the league any day :D You going to be betting on prem games this coming season? The way I think of it is like this: Stake x decimals odds -1 = profit For instance if you put £100 on a 1.91 shot £100 x 0.91 (i.e. 1.91 -1) = £91. Much easier than fractional when you get used to it I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotoSchillaci Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 No pressure then :D None whatsover ; ) Hey you said you're self employed with this but then you talk about your $20 stake for $30 profit bets (sorry I'm in Australia so AUD) ...yeah, so do I assume you are betting at a very high volume of matches or maybe even on other sports aswell? What's the story. Curious because being a pro is something that I assume is not easy and takes alot of patience and discipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maliniok Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 As a Pole, decimal odds are dead easy for me. The difference between them and the fraction is that they show both the profit and your stake. If you take a bet @1.5 and you plan to put 20 quid on it you simply multiply 20 x 1.5 and you know straightaway that you get back 30 (including your stake). Although I learnt to understand fractional odds as well, I am finding decimals easier to calculate the return and especially when taking acca bets. Can someone show me a quick way of calculating return when taking an acca of say 1/2 and 13/10 with a stake of 20 pounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFear Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 Dont get why everyone is having a go at brooke. I actually backed Germany tonight but it wasnt the same Germany of the group stages. Italy did well to take the momentum away from them and score that early goal. All previous German games had them scoring first. This chasing was new to them and they were all over the place from then on. @Brooke - Good call mate. Will follow your future analysis with keen interest. Stakes dont matter. ROI does. So you are doing alright. Keep up the good work and keep contributing, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ijustwanttowin! Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 i had a good night :) now again italy are outsiders i see value on the final and italy to win it , is baloteli ok thou? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltandSauce Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 First of all, let me say congratulations to everyone that never doubted Italy. I'll be the first to hold my hand up and say, I thought the Germans were going to shut down the likes of Pirlo and dominate possession. Well, it's safe to say after watching the game, that I couldn't have been any further from the truth. It looks like some fellow members here made themselves a tidy profit. With the way the Germans had been playing throughout the tournament, I thought I'd play it safe and went with Italy or draw double chance @ 5/6 which seemed like a sensible bet at the time. But hey, we're all gamblers, hindsight can both be a wonderful and a dreading thing. Looking back, I wish I laid down a larger stake but either way, I'm pleased that I was able to reap some reward from the game. Now it certainly looks like its going to be an interesting final. I'm certainly interested to see what the bookmakers odds are after watching the game tonight. I'm not going to jump to conclusions but I must admit, I'm leaning towards the Italians. They looked solid throughout and I've got a feeling the Spanish are going to have a real hard time seeing past the Italian defense. I mean, some of the tackles thrown in within the Italian box were out of this world. Any wrong move and it could have easily gone in the favour for a German penalty. So anyway, on that note, congratulations to everyone that seen past the all mighty German side. Let's hope we can do as well in the final! :ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeit34 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 First of all, let me say congratulations to everyone that never doubted Italy. I'll be the first to hold my hand up and say, I thought the Germans were going to shut down the likes of Pirlo and dominate possession. Well, it's safe to say after watching the game, that I couldn't have been any further from the truth. It looks like some fellow members here made themselves a tidy profit. With the way the Germans had been playing throughout the tournament, I thought I'd play it safe and went with Italy or draw double chance @ 5/6 which seemed like a sensible bet at the time. But hey, we're all gamblers, hindsight can both be a wonderful and a dreading thing. Looking back, I wish I laid down a larger stake but either way, I'm pleased that I was able to reap some reward from the game. Now it certainly looks like its going to be an interesting final. I'm certainly interested to see what the bookmakers odds are after watching the game tonight. I'm not going to jump to conclusions but I must admit, I'm leaning towards the Italians. They looked solid throughout and I've got a feeling the Spanish are going to have a real hard time seeing past the Italian defense. I mean, some of the tackles thrown in within the Italian box were out of this world. Any wrong move and it could have easily gone in the favour for a German penalty. So anyway, on that note, congratulations to everyone that seen past the all mighty German side. Let's hope we can do as well in the final! :ok bet 365 have: spain 11/10 draw 9/4 and Italy 11/4 i think italys price will get bigger though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ijustwanttowin! Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 the main question brook is what do you think, im goning to back italy to lift the cup im getting 2.66 and i might lay spain at half and full time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ijustwanttowin! Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 ok brooke do your thing ive nicked 2.66 for italy to lift the cup its gone down now to 2.64 after that performance i feel the odds will even out a bit. im not so sure about unders on this one my heart was beating like mad when i saw 2 goals in 30 mins! it could have ended up 3-2! for what was ment to be a low scoring game some took under 2.5 and lost out on a last min penalty but best to let you and others do some homework too thats what this site is about sticking together and discuss things so we can win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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