Flat season - Too difficult to profit?

[Trotter]

Re: Flat season - Too difficult to profit? Great photo !..............:ok

[BillyHills]

Re: Flat season - Too difficult to profit? Brilliant Phil:clap Did you tell Kieren that your lad was named after him?

[harrisman]

Re: Flat season - Too difficult to profit? Just a thought about NR in what were meant to be 8 runner races especially handicaps.there could be a potential for more value in getting a tricast up. I only looked at two races yesterday and with the first at Brighton I felt that the 3 market leaders were wrongly priced. so I did a combination full cover tricast of the remaining 4 runners.-at a small 20p stake. the tricast was £634.75!!-which gave me £126.85 return for my £4.80 total stake-ok a fortunate gamble one might say but in low grade races at a quirky track the upside potential is worth it I think for a small stake as I would guess the odds of it occuring are lower maybe than they should be statistically in this event? Food for thought maybe with low grade races if you feel that the market leaders are maybe wrongly priced

[dannn17]

Re: Flat season - Too difficult to profit? Bumping this, I've started this flat seaosn as I finished the last, rubbish. Losing so much money, I put as much effort in as I do with the jumps but just can't seem to pick winners. The only week I've done well is the Guineas weekend, bar that awful. I suppose in the past I haven't put as much effort in so my knowledge of the flat isn't as good as it with the jumps, but the effort I've put into analyse races and the return is terrible. Mince last night put the nail in the coffin for me, 11/10 I got it at. So poor

[The Saint]

Re: Flat season - Too difficult to profit? It's difficult to take one selection in isolation and draw conclusions. As far as Mince goes though, unless you had inside info, how did we know that she was back to her best. I mean based on her last run she was about 5th or 6th best and whilst I will concede that she had the best form in the race, I personally would want her to show it before getting involved at odds-on. It's must be a great feeling to see a plot coming or find an unexposed horse that you feel is ahead of their alloted hcap mark but for me, pundits and punters spend too long looking for the unexposed animal that has the potential to win bu half the track. Personally, I'm not interested - I want proven recent form, proven recent fitness with a winning chance on form - and most importantly, at what I consider value odds. I don't kno for fact Dan and I'm purely speculating but maybe you'd do better looking at the last runs only as a starting point and then going from there? Might help - as I've said above - I am shocking over the sticks - I literally cannot read it at all - 2m Graded Hurdles apart I should sit the whole thing out. Also - if you don't already - specialise in a type of race or a particular distance or grade etc. Takes most of the races out before you start and will give you just a few to really concentrate on. Good Luck m8 - there is NO harm in paper trading for a while - and inevitably, results will improve - they always do without any cash down :eyes

[Aidymac]

Re: Flat season - Too difficult to profit? I have made a pretty good loss on handicaps so far this season, but have soared in the profits when sticking to Listed and Group races. In my opinion, if you stick to the group races, and simply just read the form, your onto a winner. You don't have to worry about Barney Curley's, and horses not trying (unless your Cityscape), and massive gambles on horses out of form. Don't have to worry about the weights. A typical Group 1, there are the horses, this is the form, it sticks out like a sore thumb a lot of the time what horse is going to win. I think if your really serious about wanting to make money on the flat, scrap lottery handicaps, scrap poor AW races, and concentrate on the top races where only a few horses in a race have a realistic chance.

[dannn17]

Re: Flat season - Too difficult to profit? Cheers for the comments boys. I do agree with you Aidy I find the top class races a lot easier, obvioulsy like you say you are going on bare form more than having to base an opinion on a Horse's potental, plus half of the Horses are exposed really so you know who the best Horses in the race are.

[markmywords]

Re: Flat season - Too difficult to profit? Watching ATR today (Form Factor) it appears Ascot is the main goal for Roger Charlton (Mince.) So don't lose faith in your reading yet maybe the horse just wasn't primed and worth a EW punt in whichever one it takes.

[cpo]

Re: Flat season - Too difficult to profit? Usually I would agree with this but I am currently doing very well with the flat. It appears there is an actual "Punters Lounge Curse" and everything I posted on here was getting beat. Since taking a back-seat from posting my selections on here I have made a very nice profit. My discipline has improved ten fold and I have increased my staking as a result. I have found of recent weeks that following in form trainers on the flat has been very profitable (David Barron take a bow son). It might just be the case that I am in a longer than usual good run so we shall see....