England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

[Spooner]

	Saturday 17 December 2011	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
	Blackpool v Watford (15:00 GMT)	1.96	3.6	4.2	102.61 %
	Brighton & Hove Albion v Burnley (15:00 GMT)	2.25	3.5	3.4	102.43 %
	Bristol City v Nottingham Forest (15:00 GMT)	2.52	3.35	3.15	101.28 %
	Cardiff City v Middlesbrough (15:00 GMT)	2.15	3.45	3.8	101.81 %
	Doncaster Rovers v Leicester City (15:00 GMT)	4.3	3.65	2	100.65 %
	Hull City v Millwall (15:00 GMT)	2.05	3.5	4.2	101.16 %
	Ipswich Town v Derby County (15:00 GMT)	2.25	3.65	3.3	102.14 %
	Leeds United v Reading (15:00 GMT)	2.3	3.5	3.35	101.90 %
	Peterborough United v Coventry City (15:00 GMT)	1.76	4.1	4.7	102.49 %
	West Ham v Barnsley (15:00 GMT)	1.63	4.2	6.2	101.29 %
	Sunday 18 December 2011	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
	Portsmouth v Southampton (13:00 GMT)	3.6	3.55	2.2	101.40 %
	Monday 19 December 2011	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
	Crystal Palace v Birmingham City (19:45 GMT)	2.87	3.4	2.63	102.22 %

[Jase82]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December First South Coast derby for a number of years. The last time we played them we won 4-1 with Lua Lua scoring a first half hat-trick (whom, coincidentally will be in the stands on Sunday) Should definitely be a fiery occasion. We will be pretty much at full strength, with Liam Lawrence making a return after he's been out for a while. I see better value in taking Pompey on a + 0.5 if I'm honest. Given the fact Southampton have lost their last two away games, I'm confident if you really get down their throat when they are away you can go home with at least a point. And we are very very hard to beat under normal circumstances at home. Normally I'd say the unders are the way to go, but I think because of the occasion there is a higher chance of a greater average of goals being scored. I can't see either side settling for a draw as both sets of players will be driven on right to the end by the fans, and this is one of the big derbies in UK football. The atmosphere will be like a cauldron of hate as the die hard fans really genuinely hate each other. Portsmouth + 0.5 @ 1.7 - BET365 and Both teams to score = YES @ 1.72 - BET365 are my calls :ok

[Jase82]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December Surprised Bristol City are so attractively priced. They have been performing much better of late, although they have lost their last two games. One was a late winner at home to Boro, and the other was away to Derby after going ahead. Forest have lost their last four games, without scoring a goal. Not sure they are value for a side that have lost five out of their last six away games. Oddly they don't appear to be drawing many games now, considering they used to be the draw specialists of the league a little while ago. Funny how things can come full circle :\ In fact they haven't drawn away since the start of March.

[Kumanovac]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December At first glance I like the look of Bristol City, Ipswich and Watford. As I said the last week, I don't rate Derby County that much. Ipswich got a huge moral-boosting victory last week. Blackpool is a tricky game - many people will say "they stopped S'ton last week, they are on fire", but I sense that they will underestimate Watford.

[wisey10]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December Blackpool v Watford +0.5 (AH) @ 1.90 bet365 Goal Line: Over 2.5 @ 1.925 bet365 Watford have lost just once in their last 8 matches and i think a +0.25 line would have been more accurate here. Their only loss was 1-0 away at Middlesborough which is a tough place to go so there is no shame in that. Blackpool are a decent side but I think they are inconsistent and i wouldn't fancy taking evens about them against a decent Watford side who I think are improving massively. I really like the look of how the Hornets are shaping up with Yeates and Kightly on the wings and Sordell up front. Blackpool are a naturally attacking team which sould make for a good game with 2 sides who are both capable in front of goal. I can see this developing into an open game and I really like the look of the overs. Bristol City -0.25 (AH) v Notts Forest @ 2.10 Bet365 Bristol -1 (AH) v Forest @ 3.90 Bet365 Despite a recent set back, Bristol have been a massively improved team under Mcinnes and I keep hoping that they will be getting priced up according to their league position rather than their form. And in this instance against a mediocre Forest, I think there is some value on City. They lost there last home match against a decent middlesborough side but in their 2 previous home games they won by a 2 goal margin. One of those games was against league leaders Southampton which indicates how capable they are on their own turf. Forest have lost their last 3 games in a row and the usual noises are now been made by the latest Forest manager about the need for investment. I said when Cotterill took over from Mclaren that I couldn't see him doing a better job with the same players and recent results suggest that was correct. Bristol definitely look the value here and at a nice price, i'm also going to have a dabble on the -1 Asian handicap. With Maynard and Adamoah in decent form and with two of their last three home games covering this margin, I think it stands a good chance. If they win by just 1 goal nothing will be lost anyway.

[Mindfulness]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December A quick note on Ipswich, I think goalkeeper Stockdale is going back to parent club Fulham as Schwarzer is crocked. Gonna wait for team news as usual but I think Ipswich have some defensive injuries at present and this could compound things further. Bristol City are long IMO, Forest played well against Palace last week but they have two critical failings: 1. No decent strikers, 2. Defence is shoddy, particularly from set plays and ariel attack. This may go some way to explaining why they play well but don't get results. Dexter Blackstock has returned from injury for them but I feel it will take a while before he can get into the swing of things. The longer their bad run continues the more Cotterill will be under pressue, should also note this is the biggest club he has managed thus far so we will have to wait to see if the graft will take. I think they will stay up but only after some January aquisitions.

[wisey10]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

A quick note on Ipswich, I think goalkeeper Stockdale is going back to parent club Fulham as Schwarzer is crocked. Gonna wait for team news as usual but I think Ipswich have some defensive injuries at present and this could compound things further. Bristol City are long IMO, Forest played well against Palace last week but they have two critical failings: 1. No decent strikers, 2. Defence is shoddy, particularly from set plays and ariel attack. This may go some way to explaining why they play well but don't get results. Dexter Blackstock has returned from injury for them but I feel it will take a while before he can get into the swing of things. The longer their bad run continues the more Cotterill will be under pressue, should also note this is the biggest club he has managed thus far so we will have to wait to see if the graft will take. I think they will stay up but only after some January aquisitions.

Palace odds look appealing this weekend. If the game had been sunday rather than monday, I think I would have been tempted. That extra days rest from tonights match might just make the difference for brum though. Would definitely have fancied taking them on with the palace handicap otherwise. I know it's only another day but it's an important day. Will be interested to see your thoughts on this one.

[Taffy Tipster]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December First post here - but I've been visiting the forum for a few weeks. This site is brilliant - I'm considerably up in my betting since finding this place (only small stakes though). Anyway, thought I'd try to offer some help back as well. I'm probably going to back Bristol City against Notts Forest for the reasons stated. However, just a word of caution. I just found this information on one of the very respected odds comparisons sites "Bristol City are without a victory in their last seven meetings with Forest in all competitions". I haven't had time to check this but I believe it must be true (I'd post the link to the info but I'm not sure about the rules on posting links) Anyway, I'm not too sure how much of an impact this will have. I read on here once that it was an important factor for derby-rival games but not in general. The price does look very good and I don't want to put anyone off - but just wanted to get the feedback of experienced betters (I'm pretty new to football betting). Otherwise seems the best bet of the weekend from my limited knowledge.

[Mindfulness]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

Palace odds look appealing this weekend. If the game had been sunday rather than monday' date=' I think I would have been tempted. That extra days rest from tonights match might just make the difference for brum though. Would definitely have fancied taking them on with the palace handicap otherwise. I know it's only another day but it's an important day. Will be interested to see your thoughts on this one.[/quote'] Yeh I'll try and do a Palace preview this week after missing the last couple of games. I think the Brum game is hard to call but it would seem their away form isn't that great so far. Team news as always will be important, I have a horrible feeling Zaha might be suspended after receiving his 5th yellow V Forest, needs to be verified.

[Jase82]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

First post here - but I've been visiting the forum for a few weeks. This site is brilliant - I'm considerably up in my betting since finding this place (only small stakes though). Anyway, thought I'd try to offer some help back as well. I'm probably going to back Bristol City against Notts Forest for the reasons stated. However, just a word of caution. I just found this information on one of the very respected odds comparisons sites "Bristol City are without a victory in their last seven meetings with Forest in all competitions". I haven't had time to check this but I believe it must be true (I'd post the link to the info but I'm not sure about the rules on posting links) Anyway, I'm not too sure how much of an impact this will have. I read on here once that it was an important factor for derby-rival games but not in general. The price does look very good and I don't want to put anyone off - but just wanted to get the feedback of experienced betters (I'm pretty new to football betting). Otherwise seems the best bet of the weekend from my limited knowledge.

:welcome to PL :) Good first post. Hope you stick around :ok

[Taffy Tipster]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

:welcome to PL :) Good first post. Hope you stick around :ok

Cheers Jase What a great bunch you seem on here - so helpful. I find betting so much more fun now since I found this community (I only put small stakes on and will make sure I don't get carried away....lol)

[dj rob]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December Portsmouth AH+0.25 1.98 Pinnacle 4/10 Besides the Bristol match I like this one (maybe even more). Southampton is too short (2.25 Pinnacle). Would you really give them 44.4% chance of winning as odds imply? Of course not. Their away stats are 3-3-4. If you look at these three teams they´ve beaten so far (Barnsley, Ipswich in August and Coventry in November) it´s obvious that 2.25 don´t represent value. Pompey is a home team (as mentioned before) and if they had a little more success away, they could be very close to the playoff spots. Must take in the Championship this weekend. And I like Crystal Palace AH0 2.14 on Monday. At home they are hard to break down (although they played quite a big amount of draws). Birmingham had a nice run in October but in the meantime they´re struggling a bit to defeat their opponents. Away they only beat Bristol (when they were poor) and Nottingham (still poor), so there isn´t be too much Palace should be afraid of.

[gugi]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

Palace odds look appealing this weekend. If the game had been sunday rather than monday' date=' I think I would have been tempted. That extra days rest from tonights match might just make the difference for brum though. Would definitely have fancied taking them on with the palace handicap otherwise. I know it's only another day but it's an important day. Will be interested to see your thoughts on this one.[/quote'] None of the Birmingham team who started tonight started at the weekend and I doubt many of those who played tonight will start on Monday. Given that Palace have more clean sheets than any other team apart from Middlesbrough and only 3 teams have a better defensive record than Birmingham I fancy the 0-0 at 8-1 with Skybet, Ladbrokes and Stan James. It looks likely than Zaha is banned as he has 5 bookings so this will then have even more appeal.

[thebigp]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

None of the Birmingham team who started tonight started at the weekend and I doubt many of those who played tonight will start on Monday. Given that Palace have more clean sheets than any other team apart from Middlesbrough and only 3 teams have a better defensive record than Birmingham I fancy the 0-0 at 8-1 with Skybet' date=' Ladbrokes and Stan James. It looks likely than Zaha is banned as he has 5 bookings so this will then have even more appeal.[/quote'] I think I have said this somewhere else before. If you fancy backing the 0-0 then you might aswell back No Goalscorer instead. You are having the same bet but own goals do not count. About 2% of goals are own goals so although not a massive difference you might as well have own goals on your side. It is the same price 8/1 with Skybet, Ladbrokes and Stan James.

[gugi]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

I think I have said this somewhere else before. If you fancy backing the 0-0 then you might aswell back No Goalscorer instead. You are having the same bet but own goals do not count. About 2% of goals are own goals so although not a massive difference you might as well have own goals on your side. It is the same price 8/1 with Skybet' date=' Ladbrokes and Stan James.[/quote'] Thanks:ok

[AHughes]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December I really like the price on Hull with William Hill 2.05. Anyone put me off doing it ?

[Mindfulness]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

I really like the price on Hull with William Hill 2.05. Anyone put me off doing it ?

I'm not one to back up Millwall away from home but one thing I would note is that Hull have not drawn a game at home this season. Barmby has had a great start to his managerial career but I feel he could be held to a stalemate here. I certainly don't see Millwall winning, haven't seen team news yet though.

[cantspell]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

Yeh I'll try and do a Palace preview this week after missing the last couple of games. I think the Brum game is hard to call but it would seem their away form isn't that great so far. Team news as always will be important' date=' I have a horrible feeling Zaha might be suspended after receiving his 5th yellow V Forest, needs to be verified.[/quote'] Zaha is suspended

[Mindfulness]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

Zaha is suspended

:cry

[Willie]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

I'm not one to back up Millwall away from home but one thing I would note is that Hull have not drawn a game at home this season. Barmby has had a great start to his managerial career but I feel he could be held to a stalemate here. I certainly don't see Millwall winning' date=' haven't seen team news yet though.[/quote'] Agree. A lowscoring draw or a tight win for Hull is what I predict, so under 2.5 goals may be a good bet her depending on the odds.

[granth5]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

Agree. A lowscoring draw or a tight win for Hull is what I predict' date=' so under 2.5 goals may be a good bet her depending on the odds.[/quote'] I'm not so sure that it will be low scoring, we are playing a lot more open football under Barmby than we did under the more defensive minded Pearson. We have Robbie Brady back after suspension which will add more strength in depth to the squad. Millwall will be without Jay Simpson as he is on loan from us. I'm very confident about tomorrow, the fans will get right behind the team the last time Millwall fans came to Hull they wrecked the place so we will want to get one over on them. It will be a good atmosphere and at Evens, i think we are a very good price considering how well we are playing at the moment.

[Willie]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

I'm not so sure that it will be low scoring' date=' we are playing a lot more open football under Barmby than we did under the more defensive minded Pearson. We have Robbie Brady back after suspension which will add more strength in depth to the squad. Millwall will be without Jay Simpson as he is on loan from us. I'm very confident about tomorrow, the fans will get right behind the team the last time Millwall fans came to Hull they wrecked the place so we will want to get one over on them. It will be a good atmosphere and at Evens, i think we are a very good price considering how well we are playing at the moment.[/quote'] Thank you for the additional info on the game :ok Often it takes some time to make those changes in the style of play, but maybe it will come tomorrow already. A win for Hull it is then ;)

[granth5]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

Thank you for the additional info on the game :ok Often it takes some time to make those changes in the style of play' date=' but maybe it will come tomorrow already. A win for Hull it is then ;)[/quote'] I didn't mean to put you off your unders bet, i'm just warning you of our change of approach. It could well be under 2.5, as they are likely to come for a point, but we will attack from the off and probably give them chances in doing so. 5 of our last 6 home games have been over. Unders is only 4/6 which isnt great. So the value must lie with the Hull win. I'll be very suprised if we don't get it. But hey, its the championship, anything can happen. I think Robert Koren to score anytime @ 11/4 is a good bet. He is playing very well at the moment and is in good goalscoring form.

[StuSimmy]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December Hull vs Millwall Bet - Hull to win @ Evens (William Hill) I think Hull are a very attractive price tomorrow and I will certainly be snapping at that. Hull are having a great season so far, I for one didn't expect them to be up where they are, battling around the play off positions. A lot of this has come down to their good form at home this season, despite losing on the opening day of the season to Blackpool and then losing to Crystal Palace in their next home game, they have gone on to win 6 at home from 8 since. Although they have lost 4/10 at home this season, only one of those games has been against a side in the bottom half of the table so I am positive they can keep this stat up tomorrow. The fact Millwall have a terrible away record adds to the attractiveness of this price for me. They have only won once on their travels this season from ten games and that came as a big shock when they embarrased Leicester 3-0. From 21 games in the Championship in 2011 on the road, they have only won 4 which further shows they are poor travellers. Millwall came out on top in this fixture last year when a Steve Morrison goal seperated the sides, a player who is now no longer at the club.

[sportxtipster]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December Blackpool vs Warford No game looks like another one, but Blackpool did very well against the Saints and I expect them to be getting some good morale from that one. Despite being equalized in the last minute the Tangerines got a point from where not many didso this is a massive win. Watford is having just 1 defeat in last 8 games. In this period they met various teams away, but the points from other venues were taken only from Ipswich (decadent at that time) and Doncaster 0-0. expect a home win @ 1.99 with PinnacleSports

[sportxtipster]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December Bristol City vs Nottingham Forest I will go a little bit against my principles (not writing tips under 1.80), but it is possible to have a draw here so better cover this one. Bristol is far more valuable team this season than the Forest is, but without Kilkenny and McGivern might be shaking a little bit. If I look and see that Stead is possible to come upfront, my confidence for a 1 in this one becomes bigger. Pearson and Nyatanga are also ready to play. Forest will not have available midfielder Moussi, Wes Morgan and Joel Lynch being also sidelined. Bristol haven't won recently against Forest, hope they will do it today! home 0 AH @ 1.76 with Ladbrokers

[sportxtipster]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December Doncaster Rovers vs Leicester City I do not consider Doncaster as a weak team, but Nigel Pearson should do what also did with Hull: construct a good team away. Leicester is having all the material needed to win this match. The prices is very short anyway, but I think Leicester can be good enough to win here. Diouf and Chimbonda are missing for Doncaster, while Vassel and Wgahorn are also out for Leicester. Maybe also the unders are welcomed here, but let's say Pearson's team had done it all great on away games so it's time also for the Foxes. away -0.25 AH @ 1.77 with 188bet

[sportxtipster]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December Ipswich vs Derby Home side is looking to put together two wins after many games. They have been brillinat against Barnsley and I think they have a huge morale now. Derby played nothing against Palace last game away and expect them to have problems against the Tractor Boys. Home side will be without goalkeeper Stockdale as he is back to Fulham, but Leadbitter is back, same as Ingimarsson so a loss but two wins here. Theo Robinson is doubtful for the Rams, while Tyson and Brayford are not ready yet. Love it Tractor boys last weekend so ... home -0.25 AH @ 1.86 with Ladbrokers

[sportxtipster]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December Peterborough vs Coventry I am really sorry for Coventry, but the Sky Blues team will be the star team in League One next year. Huge gap of 7 points already and today the Posh are looking strong favorites. Home side is playing very good at home and is looking to bounce back from a series of bad results. Losing 3-4 home with Barnsley last game is never easy, but now they have their chance of making it. home win @ 1.80 with 1.80 with PaddyPower

[DHorozov]

Re: England > Weekend > Npower Football League Championship > 17-19 December

Sport	Football (England - Cham)
Event	West Ham - Barnsley
Selection	West Ham
Strength	10/10
Date	17/12/2011
Bookmaker/Price	William Hill @ 1.62
Reasoning	West Ham lost their last two straight games in the league and now the team is currently in second position, three points behind the leaders Southampton. The Hammers first lost against Burnley (1:2 at home) and then got smashed 0:3 away against Reading. In this game Jack Collison and Joey O'Brien got red cards and will miss the game against Barnsley today. Defender Guy Demel is also out with injury. Barnsley lost their last game at home against Ipswich 3:5. Before that the team had four straight wins and without any question the most valuable of those wins was the one against Leeds at "Elland Road". Defender Jay McEveley is still injured and will miss third straight game for his team. West Ham have great h2h stats against Barnsley in the past years. The two teams met twice in the last three years for the FA Cup and both times West Ham won, without even conceiding a goal (2:0 and 3:0). The other two games were in the Premier League, where in season 1997/1998 the Hammers won both games again (6:0 and 2:1).