England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

[Alexc]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

Fulham v QPR Personally i think QPR have a decent chance to win this game. I know Fulham are very tough to beat at home but i dont think they have been playing at all well, and i think QPR have been playing fantastic stuff the past few games. I think they deserved a win against Villa , i thought they were by far the better team. Barton has been a great buy for them, brings a bit of stability and bite into the midfield, they just look so much more organised than at the start of the season. QPR have also been doing very well on the road with 2 wins and 1 draw from 3 games, beating Wolves away 3-0 and beating Everton away 1-0. Fulham have had 3 home games resulting in 3 draws against Blackburn, Villa and City but this is a big derby also and i think QPR are a tad overpriced here. QPR Win @ 3/1 Bet365

If QPR where 10-1 I don't know if they'd be worth taking. I've read a lot on here about how brilliant QPR are, but the truth is they drew with Newcastle and needed an own goal at the death to scrape a draw with a Villa side missing Darren Bent. Fulham have obviously turned a corner, got their first win yesterday, and would, initially, be my fav's here.

[Aidymac]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

If QPR where 10-1 I don't know if they'd be worth taking. I've read a lot on here about how brilliant QPR are, but the truth is they drew with Newcastle and needed an own goal at the death to scrape a draw with a Villa side missing Darren Bent. Fulham have obviously turned a corner, got their first win yesterday, and would, initially, be my fav's here.

:moon

[Guest]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October A little prematch report for Fulham - QPR Fulham have lost only one of their 12 league games at Craven Cottage in 2011. That was a 5-2 loss to Liverpool in May. Now, I know that stats can be misleading due to recent form etc, but we are very difficult to beat at home. We played in Europe yesterday, with a comfortable 2-0 away win against Odense BK. It is important to note that both Bobby Zamora and Moussa Dembele were not even on the bench, in order to make them available for the game on sunday (they had a bug earlier in the week). With both of them back we have no major injury concerns, and our back 4 should be its strongest. I can't say much about QPR other than that they seem to be doing fairly well this season since picking up new players at the end of the transfer window. If there is anyone who knows a lot about QPR then maybe they can finish off this report. I'm not going to bet on this game, as I don't know enough about QPR to call it, however I think there is value in QPR, but not for a win. For those of you who want to back QPR, I think it is better to do so on a +0.5 AH @1.87 (Pinnacle). We seem to draw so many of these kinds of games at home, especially since Jol has come in. Fulham are also not worth backing at 2.0 IMO, given recent form. Form guide: Fulham: LLDDD QPR: WLDWD Injuries: Fulham: Davies QPR: Dyer, Hulse Suspensions: QPR: Traore Matt Connolly is likely to deputise for Traore at left-back, while Danny Gabbidon remains sidelined by injury. Other news: Fulham have already played 17 competitive games this season, compared to QPR who have been involved in just seven matches. Striker Andrew Johnson has returned to goalscoring form, after his brace in Denmark on Thursday took his tally for the season to six. Possible starting XI Fulham: Schwarzer Kelly (/Baird), Hangeland, Hughes, Riise Duff, Murphy, Etuhu (/Sidewell), Dempsey Johnson (/Dembele), Zamora I'm not really sure what else to put in here!

[Guest]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

:moon

I really don't think the value is in a QPR win as Fulham are hard to beat at home. Like I said in my post before, take them on the +0.5.

If QPR where 10-1 I don't know if they'd be worth taking. I've read a lot on here about how brilliant QPR are, but the truth is they drew with Newcastle and needed an own goal at the death to scrape a draw with a Villa side missing Darren Bent. Fulham have obviously turned a corner, got their first win yesterday, and would, initially, be my fav's here.

I can't comment on QPR, but we have one more than one game this season out of the league. EPL W/D/L 0/4/2 Europa W/D/L 5/3/1

VERDICT: BOTH TEAM TO SCORE, OVER 2.5, ADEBAYOR TO CELEBRATE IN FRONT OF ARSENAL FANS IF SCORE ONE, ANOTHER ARSENAL PLAYER GETS INJURED.

---LOL....

[Pay Day]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October Villa vs Wigan + 1 @ 1.72 (4 units) Villa have had an okay start, being draw specialists, achieved in 5 of 6 games. Though they might be disappointed only to have amassed 8 points from 6 games when we look at the relative ease of their fixtures; QPR, Newcastle, Fulham, Wolves Blackburn and Everton. Their manager is attempting a style of play similar to that of his former Birmingham team; direct play up to their strikers. This hasn't appeased many of his players, especially potential star N/Zogbia: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11677_7212863,00.html who has been woeful so far this season; with him being used to a free role in ex-Wigan team (McLeish does not afford his players such luxuries!!). I am fully confident a defensive side won't win by more than 1 against a limited Wigan team that have something of an indian sign over Villa at Villa Park. I am yet to be convinced that Villa can put in a convincing win, reinforced by their lack of attacking verve against possession dominant teams (i.e. Wigan) and McLeish's managerial style. Wigan not to lose @ 1.72 and a narrow Villa win refunds is good enough for me. Wolves vs Newcastle over 2.5 @ 2.14 (2.5 units) Wolves want to put behind them a poor run of form that has seen them not win in the last 4. Previous results suggest this bet is against the grain as Newcastle have yet to go over in any away games, while Wolves have only gone over once in 3 (3-0 loss to QPR). Not good reasoning here but I think McCarthy usually does well to win home games against evenly matched teams and are usually vulnerable to conceding when pushing forward. Newcastle I feel instinctively are due a loss, having watched them closely this season they have been incredibly lucky in most of their games to somehow escape with draws/wins (Arsenal QPR and Sunderland to name but a few). Ideal and predicted result is 2-1 home team I think. Fletcher fully fit for Wolves is a big plus (was on the bench last time out recovering).

[Kosher Readies]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic I actually fancy, despite the history of the fixture, Villa to get a win tomorrow against a Wigan side that are on a poor run however the price doesn't really appeal so I will look to the goal markets. The home side have went under in 4 of their 6 games so far this season and Wigan have went under in half of their games. I was impressed with Villa's backline last week at QPR, well organised a lot of experience in there so I find it difficult to see Wigan scoring. Darren Bent is back for Villa however the team haven't been prolific either this season netting 7 in 6 games. This fixture has went under 2.5 every season since 2005 and at evens generally, I'm happy to take it. Selection: Under 2.5 goals @ 2 with Betfair - 3 units

[AHughes]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

Good post.. but ill add some thoughts if ya dont mind :) You say dont let Evertons form flatter you after an easy start.. first of all imo there are no easy games in the premiership. Liverpools form hasnt been inspiring either.. beating wolves, bolton (maybe sides who are expecting to be around about 15-20th). They had a win against an Arsenal reserve side and a woeful home draw against sunderland. Granted they should prob have beaten sunderland and stoke but the results dont lie. Everton will be very hard to break down at home. I think that their midfield of rowell and Fellaini will get the better of lucas and adam and this will be the key area. Liverpool havent really clicked as yet.. even the 2-1 against wolves wasnt very convincing. Not too sure will Gerrard start but they will need him. I think Everton are massive value at 2/1 at home but will wait for starting line ups :ok

Point taken, maybe a little bit of my biased mind got mixed in with my wright up

[Kosher Readies]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October Manchester United v Norwich City Goal market again for me here as my first instinct was to back United on a handicap after the news of Rooney and Hernandez being fit, but the odds are too skinny. United come off the back of two draws so they will be desperate to get back on track and as a result I think we might see a quick start with them attacking and going for goals ( not that they know how to play any different. They are the top First half scorers in the EPL this year with 11 goals in 6 games. Interestingly and suprisingly, Norwich are third with 5 goals. At least 2 goals in the 1st half looks quite solid here and good value too. Selection: Over 1.5 AH First Half goals @ 1.83 with Bet365 - 5 units

[Brettfair]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

Spurs v Arsenal :) Most important factor - crucial central defenders Vermaelen, King and Dawson will potentially all be missing (don't know about King's knee or rotation of games he plays or whatever, maybe a spurs fan can confirm) and Koscielny and Kaboul are in my eyes defenders which can't be trusted to do the right thing at the right time and often make errors.

King should play. Koscielny is out for Arsenal so either Song or Squillaci will play alongside Mertesacker.

[pg_yid]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October Everton 0 (AH) @ 2.2 (188 bet) Reckon that Liverpool should not be such strong favourites here considering their away form. They have lost their last two, and have lost 50% of their away games under Dalglish. Everton have started the season fairly well, although a lack of creativity is a problem for them, and they tend to do well against the better sides. They performed well at Man City last week, whereas you could say Liverpool were a little lucky to win against Wolves. With a loud Goodison roaring them on, I'd have to say the value is on Everton in this game. 1.5 pts. Fulham vs QPR under 2.5 @ 1.8 (Stan James) Two sides who are finding goals hard to come by. Fulham have only scored more than once on one occasion so far in the league, and QPR have been setting up defensively under Warnock. Equally, both defences look quite strong at the moment. It's difficult not to see a tight affair here. Both teams have had 66% of their EPL games go under, whereas odds of 1.8 suggest there is only a 55% chance of this happening here. 3/10 Sunderland @ 2.3 (Ladbrokes) Simple reasoning here. Neither side is in form, and I would rate these teams to be about equal in terms of quality. For that reason I would have Sunderland at closer to evens, considering they have home advantage. 2.3 just seems a little big for them. 1/10.

[Kiddo112]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

King should play. Koscielny is out for Arsenal so either Song or Squillaci will play alongside Mertesacker.

Heard Wenger on skysports earlier saying Squillaci not ready to start, so looks like Song in there again.

[ThusPrider]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October Additional thought on the Everton Liverpool game: It seems that everton sometimes give away an early lead but always manage to come back stronger after they have condeaded a goal, examples I can think of is when they beat Man city at home last season and more recently the wigan game. On both occasions they went behind then come back to win the game. HTFT Liverpool/Everton @ 33/1 For a small punt.

[ddlords]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

Sport	Football (England - Prem)
Event	Tottenham v Arsenal
Selection	both team to scores
Strength	10/10
Date	02/10/2011
Bookmaker/Price	Bet365 @ 1.53
Reasoning	both team have the players that can score and score and most of their meeting have ended in both. so a stake for both team to score is a sure bet in this kind of game as both have scored each other whenever they met in any game more often. so i think it is a sure bet to go with.

[Kiddo112]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October Blackburn V Man City Going to have a go at Man City goals here. Blackburn have failed to keep a clean sheet this season, including at home to League 1 Sheff Wed & Leyton Orient in the Carling Cup (albeit weakened teams in both). Last 2 games: Newcastle (A) Lost 3-1 The home team mustered an impressive 19 attempts, 8 on target. The same Newcastle team that had only managed 4 goals in their previous 5 games. Arsenal (H) Won 4-3 Arsenal may have lost, but my lasting memory of this game was how easily they were carving out opportunities. They had a whopping 24 attempts, with 16 on target. Scott Dann is a doubt for Blackburn, and if he doesn't make it, it makes this even more likely. City lost to Bayern during the week, but they did create plenty of chances in the first 30 mins. They followed their last CL fixture with a 2-2 draw at Fulham, however they lead 2-0 and seem to have just taken their eye off the ball there. I would expect that to be a lesson learned. With the players Mancini has at his disposal, City will get goals. Simple as. So will back over 1.5 and over 2.5 City goals, to leave a push on 2, and profit on 3 or more. However over 1.5 is 1.61, whereas City are 1.75 to win the "Race to 2 Goals" with WH, so I will play that. I reckon Blackburn will be happy with a draw, and so even if it got to 1-1, I would envisage them concentrating on defending rather than attacking. 2pts Man City - Race to 2 Goals @1.75 (WH) 1.5pts Man City o2.5gls @3.1 (Corals) :hope

[ddlords]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

Sport	Football (England - Prem)
Event	Bolton v Chelsea
Selection	Chelsea
Strength	10/10
Date	01/10/2011
Bookmaker/Price	Unibet @ 1.57
Reasoning	Chelsea have been playing good since the start of the season apart from loss they suffer at man u, they have been very good and playing well both home and away games and in this game they will playing a sides who have lost their last 5 game s,so i think they should have an easy win here in this game.

[ddlords]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

Sport	Football (England - Prem)
Event	Fulham v QPR
Selection	Draw
Strength	10/10
Date	01/10/2011
Bookmaker/Price	Bet365 @ 3.30
Reasoning	i think this very game will only result in a draw as the home side are a very tough sides when playing games at home and QPR too will only settle for this if the worst come to worst ,so a draw is the possible outcome which i see in this game.

[Dylan]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October I'm going to join a few others in going for; Wolves vs Newcastle – over 2.5 goals 2.1 at Ladbrokes (3/10 units) Previously I used to think that under McCarthy Wolves were a solid defensive side, but at the moment they're not looking great at the back. Johnson is yet to really impress, and Stearman looks dodgy at right back. With only one clean sheet in the 7 league games so far (and that was against a poor Villa side in a tight derby game) Newcastle will fancy their chances and have the speed and strength with the likes of Guttierez, Ba and Oberton combined with the passing ability of Cabeye to cause Newcastle a lot of problems I feel. Equally the front four of Wolves (Doyle, Jarvis, Keightly and Fletcher) have played together for a while now and will know each others games . Being the home side and being in such bad form I’m sure there will be an impetus to push forward and attack maybe more than usual and that front four will be able to create chances for each other. :hope

[YNWA]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October Liverpool to win is my bet.. a can see them to take 3pts, there is great atmosphere in dressroom and they will take those 3 pts, on other side Everton cant count on Cahill and they have lost Arteta too, it will be quite close match but as L'pool fan i see this match like new start for title race.

[H1]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

Sport	Football (England - Prem)
Event	Bolton v Chelsea
Selection	Chelsea
Strength	10/10
Date	01/10/2011
Bookmaker/Price	Unibet @ 1.57
Reasoning	Chelsea have been playing good since the start of the season apart from loss they suffer at man u, they have been very good and playing well both home and away games and in this game they will playing a sides who have lost their last 5 game s,so i think they should have an easy win here in this game.

great deep-dive reasoning I'll be following you lad thanks :cheers

[Mustafa]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October Aston Villa - Wigan Aston Villa has many injured players who will most likely miss the game, namely Carlos Cuelear, Emile Heskey, Jermaine Jenas and most importantly Darren Bent. Wigan has a good record at Villa Park where where they won 2 and drew 3 games out of their last 5. Wigan +1 @ 2.20 (3 units) William Hill

[H1]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October Blackburn - Man City Blackburn boss Steve Kean is in all sorts of trouble at the moment as his side is not playing well and it's rumoured that he is the first EPL manager to be sacked this season. Olsson is out, while Salgado and Dann were rated doubtful. Blackburn managed to beat only Arsenal here but in fact Arsenal scored 2 of Blackburns 4 goals, while they lost to Wolves and Everton (unluckily, though) And here comes a game against City, who will be wounded after Munich defeat. They will go out to win surely and with the class of the players they have, I think they can take full advantage of Blackburn's poor defence. I won't be surprised to see Kean sacked after this one My selections: Man City -1 ah @2 9/10 City goals >2.5 @2.75 10/10 City goals >3.5 @6 2/10 City & >2.5 @2.25 5/10 with bet365

[blackcrow]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October Everton - Liverpool over 2.5 @ 2.13 pinnacle Favour Liverpool to win this game because they have a proven goalscorer in Suarez and their captain and inspirational leader Gerrard is expected to start on the bench, but given the uncertainty in their defence, until that improves, then not too confident that they will win games like this. Everton had picked up a couple of wins and a draw prior to their 2-0 loss at Man City, as they have just one clean sheet in 5 games, while they have managed to find the net in these 3 games where they picked up points, even though they do not have a recognised striker. Liverpool have conceded in their last 4 games, and have just one clean sheet this season, as Carragher has been found wanting, and if Skrtel plays, he is all over the place in the middle of the park. Like Suarez to continue his form of tormenting opposition defences and like him to do well here, and would not be surprised if Kuyt also starts given his good goalscoring record against Everton. So like both teams to score give the goals both teams have given up, and probably lean on Liverpool to win the game with the third goal, but with not much confidence there. Aston Villa - Wigan over 2.5 @ 1.97 pinnacle Villa have had four successive draws as they have scored and conceded in their last 3 games, while Wigan have lost their last 3 games, as well as scoring and conceding in their last 2 games. Bent is back for Villa and with Agbonlahor he gives much plenty of options up front, while if N'Zgobia stats, expect him to do well against his old side. Wigan have Moses and Di Santo in good form and they look likely to cause Villa some problems. Given that Wigan have not lost in their last 6 visits to Villa Park, like them to do well here and score as they have in 5 of these 6 games there, but both teams have scored in their last 3 meetings, so can see the likes of Bent scoring for Villa. With Villa in better form of the two sides, then they are likely to score the third goal but would not put it past Wigan (given their record there) to also score a second goal for themselves. Man City -1.5 @ 2.70 pinnacle Blackburn have some problems in defence as not only have they conceded at least 3 goals in 3 of their last 5 games, but they are without Olsson, as well as injury concerns regarding Salgado, Dann and Givet. Hard to see them stopping an, at times, rampant City side with Silva and Nasri on the flanks, together with Dzeko and Aguero down the middle. While Blackburn managed 4 goals against an erratic Arsenal defence, they are up against one of the better defences in the league, and hard to see them doing well here, since besides Hoilett, none of the other players have shown much this season. Expect City to dominate the middle of the park, and from there, like them to feed the front four with plenty of service, to create chances and score goals Man Utd - Norwich under 3.5 @ 1.96 pinnacle Man Utd will be looking to bounce back after drawing at Stoke last week and then drawing with Basel midweek in the Champions League, and given that they are not facing one of the top sides, would not be surprised that Ferguson rotates some of his players to keep them fresh. As such this may play into the hands of Norwich who are coming off two very good wins and will have some confidence in their game. They know they cannot go all out here as their defence will be slice open, but at the same time, they will not just sit back and defence the whole game. They will look to compact the midfield and look to break as soon as possible and try to keep the United side unbalanced. Liking them to produce a spirited performance that does not give much away, and as such, can see this being a relatively low scoring game. Sunderland @ 2.33 pinnacle Sunderland were poor last week away to Norwich so like them to put in a better performance at home where they outplayed Stoke two week s ago and won 4-0. With Bramble out, Turner comes into the middle of the defence while Bendtner has shown that he may be a useful player for them up front. The problem for West Brom is that they have scored just once in their last 4 games and though they have won their last 3 meetings with Sunderland, there is not enough to suggest that they will win again. Instead, Sunderland will be more than likely to be playing like them did against Stoke, and favour them to do enough to win this game. Newcastle @ 3.04 pinnacle Wolves have conceded at least 2 goals in their last 3 games, as they have struggled to stop the goals being shipped in. On the other hand, Newcastle have only conceded 1 goal in 3 of their games while they have clean sheets in the other 3 games. Defensively they look less likely to concede than Wolves, while their forward line, with Ba coming off a hattrick and Best chipping in with goals, look more likey to score than Wolves who have just one goal in their last 4 games. Season record: 23-35 (+6.41)

[ValueHunter]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

Wigan +1 @ 2.20 (3 units) William Hill

Are you sure about this price mate. I can't open William Hill page for some reason and check it out but it looks to good to be true. For example we have Wigan +1 @ 1.75 in b365.

[H1]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

I'm trying to get my head around the reason why Man City are a bigger price away to Blackburn than Chelsea are away to Bolton. Similar match ups you would say so I'd expect prices to be the same or I'd have Man City slightly shorter than Chelsea.

and here you go both are priced identically atm, 6.5-4-1.53

[BIG X]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

Are you sure about this price mate. I can't open William Hill page for some reason and check it out but it looks to good to be true. For example we have Wigan +1 @ 1.75 in b365.

I think that's not an Asian Handicap market which it is on Bet365. You can still have the draw so hence the better odds. :ok

[Mustafa]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

I think that's not an Asian Handicap market which it is on Bet365. You can still have the draw so hence the better odds. :ok

Yes, that's not Asian. The bet wins only if Wigan wins or draws.

[Jase82]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

Yes' date=' that's not Asian. The bet wins only if Wigan wins or draws.[/quote'] Wigan Double chance is 2.25 with the same firm ;)

[chukasnight]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October who can post today's matches prediction

[Alexc]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October

Aston Villa - Wigan Aston Villa has many injured players who will most likely miss the game, namely Carlos Cuelear, Emile Heskey, Jermaine Jenas and most importantly Darren Bent. Wigan has a good record at Villa Park where where they won 2 and drew 3 games out of their last 5. Wigan +1 @ 2.20 (3 units) William Hill

Teamtalk appears to think Jenas, Heskey and Bent will make it: http://www.teamtalk.com/match/preview/978/7212807/Aston-Villa-v-Wigan-preview Personally think everyone may be buying in to Wigan's previous record a bit too much, and this one looks a bit trappy. Looks like the classic Wigan on a handicap, like the last one at Everton. But good luck to all.

[spkutano]

Re: England > Weekend > Premier League > 1-2 October Everton vs Liverpool Pick: Away win Probable starting eleven: Everton: Howard, Hibbert, Distin, Jagielka, Baines, Coleman, Neville, Fellaini, Rodwell, Drenthe, Saha Liverpool: Reina, Kelly, Skrtel, Carragher, Enrique, Henderson, Adam, Lucas, Downing, Suarez, Carroll I think Liverpool is closer to the victory. There are three reasons for my pick. First of all, Everton is in bad form. They were very bad against Manchester City last weekend. Everton lost 2:0 and the defeat isn't catastrophe, but the way they were playing surely is. Everton failed to create a single chance on that match. To be the situation even worse, Everton lost the best striker Tim Cahill after he picked up an injury and he won't play against Liverpool today. The second reason for my pick is Liverpool. They are not excellent, they even lost two games so far, but I think Dalglish can be satisfied with his team performance. The captain Steven Gerrard is back, he played the last minutes against Wolverhampton, but Dalglish will probably not risk with Gerrard. Glen Johnson is definitelly out. Finally, Liverpool have a good record at Goodison Park in the last period. The Reds have won three of the last four matches in Premier League as guests. Here are the results: 17.10.2010. Everton - Liverpool 2:0 29.11.2009. Everton - Liverpool 0:2 27.09.2008. Everton - Liverpool 0:2 20.10.2007. Everton - Liverpool 1:2 I believe Liverpool is able to win once again.