Mahno Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 they do not accept webmoney and do not return bets if (-1) ends in victory only with one goal, right? they probably don't let players choose -1 as far as i can see they accept paypal, Moneybookers not sure about webmoney.If you bet -1AH then yes,they will return your money as bet will be void or push.Never had problems with that. I think what you take is -1H - it means Europian Handicap. in this case your team must win by 2 goals- 1 goal victory and draw will lose. -1AH means that if they win by 2 you win if they win by 1 then void or push and you will get money back. Always check what market you take: -1 Handicap - is europian (win by 1 goal lose) -1 AH - Asian handicap (win by 1 goal void-money back) Hope it helps:ok p.s. Everytime you speak about handicap you just say hadicap and you never say Asian Hadicap.this is why your bets lose even if team wins by 1 goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delahicka Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 anyone interested in UPL? Yes of course :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symon Sez Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 -1 Handicap - is europian (win by 1 goal lose) -1 AH - Asian handicap (win by 1 goal void-money back) Hope it helps:ok p.s. Everytime you speak about handicap you just say hadicap and you never say Asian Hadicap.this is why your bets lose even if team wins by 1 goal. well i never knew it's european i thought it was asian but bookies had their own rules))) frankly speakin i never noticed divisions of european handicaps, but always saw asian and nowhere except pinnacle i saw -1 thank you very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzi Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 hey hey' date='big man here.Nice 2 c ya bud.i always had some space here since nobody else out there tip UPL.Moldova?he he.we'll see,sounds challenging ;)[/quote'] Haha what is it they say in "Troy"? I'll have to modify it; "Learning from mighty Mahno? Kings would kill for the honour!" ;) haha. Moldova is easy street, mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jovinco Posted July 20, 2011 Author Share Posted July 20, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Friday 22 July 2011 Home Draw Away BPP Zorya Luhansk v PFC Oleksandria (15:00 BST) 2 3.35 3.94 105.23 % Dynamo Kyiv v FC Obolon Kyiv (18:00 BST) 1.25 5.5 11.5 106.88 % Saturday 23 July 2011 Home Draw Away BPP Illichivets Mariupol v Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih (15:00 BST) 2.1 3.25 3.6 106.17 % Tavriya Simferopol v Metalist Kharkiv (17:00 BST) 3.44 3.4 2.1 106.10 % Chornomorets Odessa v Arsenal Kyiv (19:00 BST) 2.62 3.1 2.74 106.92 % Sunday 24 July 2011 Home Draw Away BPP Vorskla Poltava v Metalurh Donetsk (15:00 BST) 2.65 3.1 2.7 107.03 % Shakhtar Donetsk v Karpaty Lviv (17:00 BST) 1.26 5.41 11.1 106.86 % Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk v Volyn Lutsk (17:30 BST) 1.28 5.5 10.5 105.48 % Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delahicka Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Dynamo Kyiv v Obolan I know Obolon beat Dynama 0-2 at this fixture the last time these two teams met back last season in November, is there any chance of an upset like this again ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symon Sez Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Dynamo Kyiv v Obolan I know Obolon beat Dynama 0-2 at this fixture the last time these two teams met back last season in November' date= is there any chance of an upset like this again ?? well the ball is round and there are always chances but this year oboblon are not the same as they were last year. they lost 8 players if i'm not mistaking and this year are definitely one of the first teams to go to a lower league if no dramatic changes is made personally i think Dynamo will win with the difference of 2 at least as Dynamo look like to have signed a couple of good players and obviously didn't become weaker comparing to last year unlike obolon besides they owe their fans for the last home game with metallist when they were definitely stronger but couldn't win that's what i think but you'd rather wait for other opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delahicka Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 well the ball is round and there are always chances but this year oboblon are not the same as they were last year. they lost 8 players if i'm not mistaking and this year are definitely one of the first teams to go to a lower league if no dramatic changes is made personally i think Dynamo will win with the difference of 2 at least as Dynamo look like to have signed a couple of good players and obviously didn't become weaker comparing to last year unlike obolon besides they owe their fans for the last home game with metallist when they were definitely stronger but couldn't win that's what i think but you'd rather wait for other opinions Well I appreciate your opinion grately Symon, I know a small bit about the Ukrainian premier league but it's always good to hear the view of somebody who knows it better, So thank you very much mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahno Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Obolon has no chance.Dynamo will beat handicap here easy. tough round again.Don't think i like anything this week value wise(maybe illichevets at home and Zorya draw).Hard games to predict. I was intresting in Zorya,as they improving and showed some good footy againt Metalist but Oleksandria from other hand is a hard team to beat.Probably draw is a most likely result. Wouldn't take Shakhtar at this price as they are playing game tonight against Fener in Turkey and they took almost full squad.Shakhtar always have hard games against us.Karpaty just need more time for new players to adapt also we play Europa next week i think so our motivation is uknwon but we have enough quality players to make 2 teams. Metalist play better away then at home,Tavria improved but i don't see Metalist losing this one. Illichevets may have enough to beat poor Kryvbas at home.I nearly fall asleep wathcing Kryvbass last time.illichevets is not too bad at home so @2.00 is a good price. Illichevets to win @2.00 Chernomorets and Arsenal looks underish to me.Chernomorets don't have good strikers but Arsenal is not realy good away.I see lots of fighing but not many goals. under @1.65 Dnipro at this parice?No,thanks.looks unders as well.Volyn will defend. Vorskla will be tired after so many games but Metalurg away are not push overs. under @1.62 Conclusion: Hard games this week.it's still early to judge who is who as many teams signed new players and are at this stage when time will show how good they are.Most of the games looks like unders to me and i also expect few draws.so hold your horses and keep stakes low. GL :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurie Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 @mahno! thx for your help at this section. realy good to get the point of view of a local guy. can you give us the missing players of this round? thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahno Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 @mahno! thx for your help at this section. realy good to get the point of view of a local guy. can you give us the missing players of this round? thx What team? The problem with UPL is you never know their line-ups untill KO.that's why it's hard to tell in advance what team they will play.But sure i do know long term injuries or suspended players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurie Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 What team? The problem with UPL is you never know their line-ups untill KO.that's why it's hard to tell in advance what team they will play.But sure i do know long term injuries or suspended players. let's start with today's team's team news....;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPLouis Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Zorya 2 PFC Oleksandria 0 I saw most of this game, which was dominated and deservedly won by Zorya. They had much more of the attacking play and far more chances. Oleksandrai looked laboured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahno Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Zorya 2 PFC Oleksandria 0 I saw most of this game, which was dominated and deservedly won by Zorya. They had much more of the attacking play and far more chances. Oleksandrai looked laboured. 31 min - Oleksandria scored - offside 45+1 min Oleksandria hit post form free-kick Second half - Shuhovcev(keeper) made a good save and only after that Zorya scored.Also Zorya's keeper made couple more good saves in the end. Zorya played well and "home" advantage made a job in the end but Oleksandria was not that bad like you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delahicka Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Thanks to Mahno, I took ur advice on the handicap, I didn't get greedy and just took the (-1.0). I watched the game, all the goals came after Shev came off, says much about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahno Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Thanks to Mahno' date=' I took ur advice on the handicap, I didn't get greedy and just took the (-1.0). I watched the game, all the goals came after Shev came off, says much about him.[/quote'] No worries mate,i'm here to help.do what i can ;) Also took Dynamo on handicap in acca,they should of be ahead in HT but...Sheva is getting old, also those new guys they signed are good,specialy theior new striker Ideye-he scored 4 in 2 matches now. I think they will smash Rubn at home again.Milevsky was rested too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPLouis Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 31 min - Oleksandria scored - offside 45+1 min Oleksandria hit post form free-kick Second half - Shuhovcev(keeper) made a good save and only after that Zorya scored.Also Zorya's keeper made couple more good saves in the end. Zorya played well and "home" advantage made a job in the end but Oleksandria was not that bad like you said. You know, for some strange reason I thought you might argue about this Mahno :). If you saw the game, do you agree with me that Zorya were a class above Oleksandria and deserved their 2-0 win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.I.T Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 No worries mate,i'm here to help.do what i can ;) Also took Dynamo on handicap in acca,they should of be ahead in HT but...Sheva is getting old, also those new guys they signed are good,specialy theior new striker Ideye-he scored 4 in 2 matches now. I think they will smash Rubn at home again.Milevsky was rested too. Did you like how Dinamo played this season so far? 4-0 vs poorest Obolon and 1-3 vs new promoted Oleksandrya. Was there any good team play? I did not see it (watched them). Be careful betting against Rubin :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symon Sez Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Thanks to Mahno' date=' I took ur advice on the handicap, I didn't get greedy and just took the (-1.0). I watched the game, all the goals came after Shev came off, says much about him.[/quote'] well i wouldn't say that but for sure not the best game for him i'd rather say goals came after Gusev came in ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delahicka Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Thanks again lads for the advice. I thought Dynamo played very well, even after they scored the 1st goal the kept up the pressure and high intensity. They have some very skillful players, I would like to see them do it against a better side and I'm sure they will against Ruban. Between Dynamo and Shakhtar no teams in Europe will fancy meeting them this season, it took the best team in the world to knock Shakhtar out last season. Also Dripno with big signings too and the European championships on the way next year the future of Ukrainian football is definitly bright :clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.I.T Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 There is no place for Chernomorets in this league ... Just promoted Oleksandrya ia twice stronger imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPLouis Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Vorskla Poltava 4 v Metalurg Donetsk 2 I saw most of this game. Overall, Metalurg had more of the attacking play, playing more like the home side, with Vorskia playing on the break. I thought Metalurg were going to win, but they were let down by poor defending against the Vorskia attacks, so they lost a game they could and perhaps should have won. Vorskia grew in confidence in the second half, but didn't keep possession well enough which meant they were never really comfortable until going 4-2 up in added time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahno Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Live in play: Karpaty +2.5AH @1.60 looks like a value to me :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahno Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Only Karpaty,only green and white :drums 1-0 Karpaty so far :clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPLouis Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Shakhtar Donetsk 2 v Karpaty Lviv 1 I saw most of the second half of this game. Karpaty lead 1-0 at half time, but the second half was all Shakhtar at their attacking best, controlling possession and attacking with verve and skill. It seemed inevitable that they would win, and they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPLouis Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Dnipro 1 v FC Volyn Lutsk 2 Managed to see most of this game. Dnipro played the neater football, but Volyn were always a threat with their direct style and it was not a total surprise when they scored 6 minutes from time, only for Dnipro to equalise a few minutes later. But Volyn managed to raise themselves again to score the winner in added time to win 2-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahno Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Live in play: Karpaty +2.5AH @1.60 looks like a value to me :ok 2-1 bet won :) seems like my in-play bets are doing very well,much better then pre-match bets.only lost 1 in play i think. also more markets available in play and space for manoeuvres. but this round was a bit of shocker with many goal.6 matches out of 8 ended up with over 2.5 goals. i did warn about Dnipro (fcuk off Ramos is my logo).still it's too early to judge who is who that's why i bet with small stakes only. follow me in europa and CL games next week where i can try to give more info about our teams. GL :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahno Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 There is no place for Chernomorets in this league ... Just promoted Oleksandrya ia twice stronger imo. Chernomorets is completly new team with more then 7 new players.they need time to settle down.it's a bit to aerly to say who will be religated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahno Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Did you like how Dinamo played this season so far? 4-0 vs poorest Obolon and 1-3 vs new promoted Oleksandrya. Was there any good team play? I did not see it (watched them). Be careful betting against Rubin :) Rubin?what's that? 2 years ago we Dynamo beat them 3-1 at home.i see something similar this time :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jovinco Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Re: Ukraine Premier League 2011 Friday 29 July 2011 Home Draw Away BPP FC Obolon Kyiv v Zorya Luhansk (17:00 BST) 2.2 3.15 3.61 104.90 % Volyn Lutsk v Metalist Kharkiv (17:00 BST) 5.4 3.63 1.72 103.96 % Saturday 30 July 2011 Home Draw Away BPP PFC Oleksandria v Tavriya Simferopol (17:00 BST) 3.24 3.25 2.35 104.19 % Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk v Illichivets Mariupol (17:30 BST) 1.27 5.5 10 106.92 % Metalurh Donetsk v Dynamo Kyiv (19:00 BST) 6.17 3.9 1.58 105.14 % Sunday 31 July 2011 Home Draw Away BPP Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih v Chornomorets Odessa (15:30 BST) 1.73 3.5 5.25 105.42 % Karpaty Lviv v Vorskla Poltava (17:00 BST) 1.6 3.75 5.88 106.17 % Arsenal Kyiv v Shakhtar Donetsk (17:30 BST) 9 5 1.32 106.87 % Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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