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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread

Event Banfield - Olimpo
Selection Draw
Strength 10/10
Date 21/09/2011
Bookmaker/Price Pinnacle Sports @ 3.32
Reasoning It is true that Banfield got his first win in the torunament last week and they scored the first goal too. Very feww if we pay atention and see that they lost all the previous six games not scoring a single goal. Six defeats and no goals scored!! Olimpo also had not the best start of season but they use to be a complicate opponent for any team. They draw the last game against Godoy Cruz and they are not making a good tournament. Between two very poor teams, i cannot see a clear favourite here and i think it will be a nervous game, with few goals and the draw seems the most probable result to me.
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Sport Football (Argentina)
Event Atl. Rafaela - Independiente
Selection Atl. Rafaela
Strength 10/10
Date 21/09/2011
Bookmaker/Price Paddy Power @ 2.00
Reasoning Well Atletico Rafaela are new team in Argentinian Primera Division but they hold second place with a point less than leader Boca Huniors. Rafaela won four and drew one in last four matches of local league. On the other hand Independiente is in so poor fit at the moment, three loss in last four matches holding 0-1-2 record on the road goal difference 0-3 they failled to score a goal on the road yet. These two did not played between soon the one match in 2004 finished with 2-1 home win, today I expect Rafaela to be aggresive from first signal if they win they will hang up to first place so I will back up this small club.
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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread Sport Fotball Argentina Event Boca Juniors-Estudiantes Selection over 2 goals (Asien) Strength 7/10 Date 22/09-11 Bookmaker ComeOn – 1.61 Reasoning Both teams won last. Boca did a really good match away against Lanus and won by 2-1. to today's match is the only D. Cvitanich is uncertain to play then he started after only eight minutes later with an injury. Boca has been really good at home this season and has produced six goals in their three home games and they have released the first Estudiantes won the last after a crazy game at home to Argentinos Juniors with 4-3! It was a cruel turn when it was over with 2-0 after 31 minutes. It will probably start with Gelson Fernandez, he started on the bench last. In previous meetings, so they tend to get quite a lot of goals. Estu seems to be emerging after a really bad start. Boca will have to continue to win if you want to be there fighting if the gain in Aperturan.

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Event Boca Juniors - Estudiantes L.P.
Selection Boca Juniors
Strength 10/10
Date 23/09/2011
Bookmaker/Price Canbet @ 1.91
Reasoning Without Veron, whoi didn't recovered from injury, neither Villar, suspended, Estudiantes visits Boca Juniors in La Bombonera, with the urgency of win three points again. Th coach Russo, who has many problems to choose the team, is hiding the starting eleven. Boca, who is unbetaen on the last seventeen games, will try tonight to extend the distance on the leadership of Torneo Apertura, facing a depleted Estudiantes, which is failing their expectations and as i said, has two important absences like Juan Veron and Villar.
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Saturday 24 September 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Olimpo v Arsenal de Sarandi (19:05 BST) 2.25 3.25 3.4 104.63 %
Sunday 25 September 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif San Martin-San Juan v Atlético de Rafaela (00:10 BST) 2.88 3.1 2.75 103.34 %
maximize.gif Independiente v Vélez Sársfield (15:00 BST) 2.96 3.2 2.9 99.52 %
maximize.gif CA Tigre v CA All Boys (18:00 BST) 1.85 3.3 4.9 104.77 %
maximize.gif San Lorenzo v Racing Club (20:00 BST) 2.3 3.2 3.75 101.39 %
maximize.gif Argentinos Juniors v Boca Juniors (22:10 BST) 5.5 3.4 1.9 100.23 %
Monday 26 September 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Estudiantes de La Plata v Belgrano (00:15 BST) 1.8 3.4 4.79 105.84 %
maximize.gif Unión de Santa Fe v CA Banfield (21:00 BST) 2.32 3.25 3.5 102.44 %
maximize.gif CA Lanus v Colon de Santa Fe (23:10 BST) 1.95 3.4 4.47 103.07 %
Tuesday 27 September 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Newell's Old Boys v Godoy Cruz de Mendoza (01:15 BST) 2.25 3.2 3.6 103.47 %
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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread Independiente - Velez Sarsfield: Independiente @ 2.62 (Blue Square) 10/10 Independiente is in 10th place with an overall record of 3-1-4 and a home record of 2-0-2. Velez is 14th place with an overall record of 2-2-4 and an away record of 1-2-1. Velez has a poor streak of results in its last 5 (0-1-4). Independiente is coming off a confidence boosting win at 3rd place Atl. Rafaela (1-3) whereas Velez is coming off a 1-2 loss, at home, against San Lorenzo. Neither team has been great thus far but Velez appears to be worse at the moment and the odds for the home win are too high to ignore.

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Event Argentinos Jrs - Boca Juniors
Selection Boca Juniors
Strength 10/10
Date 25/09/2011
Bookmaker/Price 5Dimes @ 1.96
Reasoning Boca Juniors is the leader and they are convincing me. Despite they don't score too much, the two goals conceded in the eight games they played so far, gives them the necessary solidity. And Riquelme is making the difference there. Todya they will travel to Argentinos, who is fighting against the bottom places and they have some important absences: Pablo Barzola, Luis Ojeda and Jefferson Hurtado. They are not in a good moment, even after changing his coach. They are the single team whos is still without a win in this Apertura. I am not seeing them stopping Boca in his way to the title.
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Saturday 1 October 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Belgrano v Argentinos Juniors (01:15 BST) 2.1 3.26 4.4 101.02 %
maximize.gif Atlético de Rafaela v CA Lanus (23:15 BST) 2.7 3.2 2.8 104.00 %
Sunday 2 October 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Vélez Sársfield v San Martin-San Juan (01:15 BST) 1.8 3.6 5.75 100.72 %
maximize.gif CA All Boys v Olimpo (18:00 BST) 2.15 3.4 3.8 102.24 %
maximize.gif Racing Club v Independiente (20:00 BST) 2.05 3.3 4.2 102.89 %
maximize.gif Boca Juniors v CA Tigre (22:10 BST) 1.75 3.6 6 101.59 %
Monday 3 October 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Colon de Santa Fe v Estudiantes de La Plata (00:15 BST) 2.2 3.25 4 101.22 %
maximize.gif Arsenal de Sarandi v Unión de Santa Fe (21:00 BST) 2.37 3.2 3.6 101.13 %
maximize.gif Godoy Cruz de Mendoza v San Lorenzo (23:10 BST) 2.3 3.25 3.75 100.91 %
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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread Atletico Rafaela vs Lanus A draw could be a fair result here after I analyzed this match. rafaela has a great form on away games, but is shaking on home ground. Lanus is coming after 2 consecutive draws. Away they haven't conceded a goal yet, scored 5 instead. They have 2 wins and 2 draws. Both teams are flying high at the moment, 2nd and 3rd in table, but I see no winner in this one. draw @ 3.20 with >bet365

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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread All Boys vs Olimpo Home side haven't won yet at home a game and they have 2 draws and 2 defeats. Scored just 2 goals. Last game was draw. Away side haven;t won away and has same 2 draws and 2 defeats as All Boys. They have scored just 3 goals away. Last 3 games for them were 3 draws. No draw in last 5 games in the history of the meetings between these 2 sides. I predict a draw game as both teams are too weaken teams for winning. draw @ 3.25 with >Betfred

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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread Racing Club vs Independiente Racing is having great results and a great regularity with wins home and draws away. Scored 5 goals home and haven;t conceded yet. Independiente won 3 times this season, but away won just once. Are having 2 defeats and 1 draw, scored 3 goals and conceded 4. I believe Racing will stop winning tonight and Independiente will stop losing games - have 4 defeats in last 5 games. A draw seems the best result here. draw @ 3.30 with Coral

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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread Boca Juniors vs Tigre Boca are again leaders in Argentina. They have a great defensive play with just 2 goals conceded. They meet Tigre which has also a good season but with a more opened game play. Tigre has 4 draws so far. They are undefeated in last 7 games, while Boca is undefeated in the season. A draw seems also here a perfect result. draw @ 3.60 with Stan James

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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread Colon Santa Fe vs Estudiantes La Plata Home side is on 7th spot and have 3 wins in last 5 games. Estudiantes has 2 defeats in last 2 games and 2 wins in the hwhole season. Away they got only 1 draw and have 4 consecutive defeats in last 4 games. I think that Estudiantes will stop their series of defeats here. They will not gain more than 1 point as Colon is a strong team at home, but their form is not the best. draw @ 3.28 with 5Dimes

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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread Banfield vs Newell's Old Boys Home side is one of the poorest in the League this season. They are continuing the Clausura bad evolutions from last season. Now they have 1 win and 1 draw in 9 games. Newell's is also playing bad and has poor results. They have 2 draws, 1 win and 1 defeat away. Banfield won to All Boys and made a draw to Olimpo. Newell's has 4 draws in last 5 games. I fancy another draw here! draw @ 3.25 with 188bet

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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread Godoy Cruz vs San Lorenzo Fancy another draw here. Godoy keeps on draw games in last period, has 4 in a row, while away side has one in 5 games, the last one. Most of the game splayed between these two have went to San Lorenzo direction, especially the ones that were played here.: 4 defeats and 1 win for Godoy. I think we will see a change in fortunes tonight and both teams will get a point each. draw @ 3.25 with >Betfred

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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread Arsenal de Sarandi vs Union Santa Fe Arsenal lost all the games home, scoring 3 goals in 4 games. Away they got 2 wins and 3 drawsm, but they are not so high in the standings with these poor results. Santa Fe made 3 draws at home, won twice away, made 1 draw and lost once. Scored 4 goals and conceded 5. These teams haven't met in the last 9 years so, no relevance for the other meetings. I will go for a draw because the teams will be motivated as usual in Argentina for not losing. draw @ 3.25 with Betway

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Friday 14 October 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Olimpo v CA Tigre (21:10 BST) 2.52 3.25 3.25 101.22 %
maximize.gif Newell's Old Boys v Arsenal de Sarandi (23:25 BST) 2.3 3.25 3.7 101.27 %
Saturday 15 October 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif San Lorenzo v CA Banfield (01:30 BST) 2.05 3.3 4.2 102.89 %
maximize.gif Independiente v Godoy Cruz de Mendoza (18:00 BST) 2.44 3.2 3.2 103.48 %
maximize.gif Unión de Santa Fe v CA All Boys (20:30 BST) 2.25 3.2 3.55 103.86 %
Sunday 16 October 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif San Martin-San Juan v Racing Club (01:15 BST) 3.11 3.1 2.6 102.87 %
maximize.gif Estudiantes de La Plata v Atlético de Rafaela (18:00 BST) 2.25 3.3 3.75 101.41 %
maximize.gif Argentinos Juniors v Colon de Santa Fe (20:10 BST) 2.6 3.2 3 103.04 %
maximize.gif Boca Juniors v Belgrano (22:30 BST) 1.57 3.75 7 104.59 %
Monday 17 October 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif CA Lanus v Vélez Sársfield (00:30 BST) 2.4 3.2 3.25 103.69 %
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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread over 2AH , 1.94 pinnacle , 10units Newell's Old Boys and Arsenal scored at least two goals in 8 of their last 9 matches played at Newell's. Games at Newell's are reserved for high scoring games , while games at Arsenal are usually played with under 2.5 goals scored. Newell's at home played 8 games in a row with 2 goals or less scored , so it is time for them to score or concede 2+ goals. Arsenal played 3 of 5 last games on road with 4 goals scored. I would usually go for over 3.5 but it is time to increase my hit percentage so this is a safe bet to me.

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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread over 2.5 , 2.66 pinnacle , 10units Well the other boys played like boys yesterday and drew 0:0 against Arsenal in what was maybe the most boting game ever. These boys and Santa fe however should be much better. They played 4 games in their history and scored a total of 16 goals. 3 of those 4 games ended with 3+ goals scored. This season Santa Fe is playing tough defense but they are also not very efficient in attack. All Boys can change that because they can both score and concede well over 2 goals.

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Event Lanus - Velez Sarsfield
Selection Velez Sarsfield
Strength 10/10
Date 17/10/2011
Bookmaker/Price Stan James @ 3.25
Reasoning Lanús and Vélez Sarsfield, not so close as they used to be in the last seasons (8 and 10 respectively separate them of the solid leader Boca), will close this day of Apertura. The local team is in a bad moment with no wins in the last four games (two draws and two defeats), while Vélez is coming from two consecutive wins (Independiente and San Martín) with other win in Copa Sudamericana (Universidad Católica). Gabriel Schurrer will make three changes in the team defeated, in the last game, by Atlético de Rafaela. Will enter Mariano Pavone, Diego Bragheri and Juan Neira in the place of Leandro Díaz, Carlos Izquierdoz and Mario Regueiro, the last two sent-off. In Vélez, in the last time, Víctor Zapata, who was to play, is out again due to his injury. And are also out of this game Juan Manuel Martínez and Jonathan Ramírez, who are recovering from their injuries. Who will be back is Emiliano Papa, recovered from the injury that remained him out of the game against San Martín. Lanús is always hard to be beat by Vélez. It is a great rival. It will be a complicate game for both. But Velez is experienced in this kind of games.
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Monday 24 October 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Olimpo v Unión de Santa Fe (21:00 BST) 2.28 3.2 3.8 101.43 %
maximize.gif CA All Boys v Newell's Old Boys (23:05 BST) 2.54 3.2 3.35 100.47 %
Tuesday 25 October 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif CA Banfield v Independiente (02:05 BST) 2.58 3.25 3.25 100.30 %
maximize.gif Arsenal de Sarandi v San Lorenzo (19:00 BST) 2.58 3.2 3.25 100.78 %
maximize.gif Vélez Sársfield v Estudiantes de La Plata (21:05 BST) 2.1 3.3 4.2 101.73 %
maximize.gif Atlético de Rafaela v Argentinos Juniors (23:10 BST) 2.32 3.2 3.7 101.38 %
Wednesday 26 October 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Colon de Santa Fe v Boca Juniors (02:05 BST) 3.5 3.2 2.34 102.56 %
maximize.gif CA Tigre v Belgrano (21:00 BST) 2.26 3.2 3.7 102.52 %
maximize.gif Godoy Cruz de Mendoza v San Martin-San Juan (23:05 BST) 1.84 3.5 4.9 103.33 %
Thursday 27 October 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Racing Club v CA Lanus (01:15 BST) 2.38 3.2 4 98.27 %
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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread Velez - Estudiantes Velez who has recorded three wins in a row tonight will host Estudiantes who plays in bad form but in the last round has achieve a victory. Velez coach Ricardo Gareca today can not count on Juan Manuel Martinez (7 / 1) who is injured. The good news is the return of Víctor Zapata (5 / 0) and Jonathan Ramirez (8 / 1) in the team.On the other hand Estudiantes coach Miguel Russo for his match can not count on Juan Sebastian Veron (6 / 1). Estudaintes currently don't play in god form what says only two victories in the championship so far. Also Estudiantes is out of Copa Sudamericana.On the other hand, Velez is still in the Copa Sudamerciana and in championship has begun to go to the top of the table.Velez is eight points behind the Boca so if Velez wants to stay in race for title Velez in this match must to go for win.I think that Velez in this match can achive victory because they are in much better form then Estudaintes and also with a win in this match Velez remains in the race for the title. Pick:Velez @ 2.10 Interwetten 4/10

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Saturday 29 October 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Argentinos Juniors v Vélez Sársfield (19:05 BST) 4.5 3.3 2 102.53 %
maximize.gif Newell's Old Boys v Olimpo (23:15 BST) 2.17 3.15 4 102.83 %
Sunday 30 October 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Independiente v Arsenal de Sarandi (01:15 BST) 2.17 3.2 4 102.33 %
maximize.gif CA Lanus v Godoy Cruz de Mendoza (17:00 BST) 2.18 3.2 3.88 102.89 %
maximize.gif San Lorenzo v CA All Boys (19:00 BST) 2.2 3.23 4.2 100.22 %
maximize.gif Boca Juniors v Atlético de Rafaela (21:10 BST) 1.74 3.62 6.5 100.48 %
maximize.gif Belgrano v Colon de Santa Fe (23:20 BST) 2.42 3.2 3.67 99.82 %
Monday 31 October 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Unión de Santa Fe v CA Tigre (20:00 BST) 2.43 3.1 3.5 101.98 %
maximize.gif Estudiantes de La Plata v Racing Club (22:05 BST) 2.62 3.15 2.83 105.18 %
Tuesday 1 November 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif San Martin-San Juan v CA Banfield (00:15 BST) 2.62 3.15 3.02 103.03 %
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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread Estudiantes vs Racing Over 2,5 @ 2.55 Sportingbet I'm gonna try something tonight and maybe some people want to follow (with small stakes). It's just that Estudiantes keeps getting high results at home and the market doesn't react in an appropriate way (imo) because it keeps focussing too much on the opponent's profile. In this case the opponent's profile is that Racing scored only 3 and conceded only 2 goals in 6 away games, so it's just an average of 0,83 goals per game. But if you look at the opponents that Estudiantes faced earlier this season? Belgrano won 3-2 vs Estudiantes, but in their other 6 away games there were only 0,83 goals on average. San Martin 2-2, other away games 1,8 goals avg. Argentinos 3-4, other away games 2,6 goals avg. All in all there was an average of 4,17 goals in Estudiantes home games so far. 5 of 6 home games were over (first home match was a 2:0). It's a very difficult situation for Estudiantes. They play a horrible Apertura, the new manager has huge problems to stabilize the defense and will be sacked soon, their great legend Veron will retire after the next games (actually this should be his last game but I think he'll play the rest of the Apertura, too), supporters are losing faith and staying at home (read that there will be no drum support tonight) and so on. So that's why it's not too difficult to shoot some goals against them on the road. At the same time Estudiantes still plays some good offense and can score one or two (or three) goals any day of the week. Another reason why this could be a special night is that this is actually Racing's last chance to close the gap to first placed Boca. In three weeks they'll play vs Boca and so they'll face the direct duel. I don't think it's realistic but newspapers focus on this aspect of the game and I reckon that Racing will, too.

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Estudiantes vs Racing Over 2,5 @ 2.55 Sportingbet
0-0 / Estudiantes was down to 10 men for 60 minutes or so and there should've been a pen in the first half. But overall I was way too optimistic for this game. One of the most boring games I've watched this season.
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Friday 4 November 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif CA All Boys v Independiente (20:05 GMT) 2.75 3.2 2.9 102.10 %
maximize.gif Atlético de Rafaela v Belgrano (22:10 GMT) 2.37 3.2 3.5 102.02 %
Saturday 5 November 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Olimpo v San Lorenzo (00:15 GMT) 2.66 3.15 3 102.67 %
maximize.gif CA Tigre v Colon de Santa Fe (18:05 GMT) 2.58 3.15 3.12 102.51 %
maximize.gif Godoy Cruz de Mendoza v Estudiantes de La Plata (20:10 GMT) 2.24 3.2 3.75 102.56 %
Sunday 6 November 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Racing Club v Argentinos Juniors (00:20 GMT) 1.9 3.7 4.9 100.07 %
maximize.gif CA Banfield v CA Lanus (17:00 GMT) 3 3.1 2.62 103.69 %
maximize.gif Vélez Sársfield v Boca Juniors (21:10 GMT) 3 3.1 2.62 103.69 %
maximize.gif Unión de Santa Fe v Newell's Old Boys (23:20 GMT) 2.52 3.15 3.15 103.17 %
Monday 7 November 2011 Home Draw Away BPP
maximize.gif Arsenal de Sarandi v San Martin-San Juan (23:20 GMT) 2.1 3.25 3.9 104.03 %
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Re: ARGENTINA Primera Division 2011 Thread Velez vs Boca Boca is the best team so far in this Apertura. But Velez showed their value in Sudamericana. In championship they are draw less, have 3 wins and 3 defeats. Boca has 4 wins away and 2 draws, no defeat. Velez won the majority of the games played at home with Boca. Have 8 wiuns, 3 draws and 3 defeats. I expect a draw in this match as both teams will not want to los ethi sderby. draw @ 3.10 with Coral Arsenal de Sarandi vs San Martin de San Juan Arsenal looks very in form and will try to win the match. They are doing well in championship, but last game in Sudamericana was a narrow defeat with Universidad de Chile. San Martin is undefeatd in last 3 games, has just 1 defeat in last 5 games. Expect a draw as neither team will be too strong enough to win this game! draw @ 3.25 with Pinnacle Sports

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