2011 Boxing Thread

[superfoo]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Going a bit stale on here so Im going to ask for - and offer a couple of opinions for this weekend. Stated I would put my Jones winnings on Jennings this week but he is out with his back. Another market Ive been closely watching, as well as much footage as I can is Lenny Zap and Vasquez. Quite like Vasquez but his upright stance worries me but the monet has shown already. Foreman should be able to outbox Wolak but he doesnt like full on pressure and I think that is one thing, if nothing else that Wolak will bring. Burns/Lareya has had a pretty bizarre market with Burns doubling in odds only to go out again. Cotto should beat Mayorga but the question is how? Finally is Martinez a little bit over rated after his last wins? Not sure on all the questions above and input would be appreciated. I fancy a little treble with the main fights but cant help but think there will be some form of upset this weekend.

[superfoo]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Oh yeah and as for Alvarez -[ if Canelo is not guided correctly there could be some decent odds out there to topple him.

[DafsT]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread

Going a bit stale on here so Im going to ask for - and offer a couple of opinions for this weekend. Stated I would put my Jones winnings on Jennings this week but he is out with his back. Another market Ive been closely watching, as well as much footage as I can is Lenny Zap and Vasquez. Quite like Vasquez but his upright stance worries me but the monet has shown already. Foreman should be able to outbox Wolak but he doesnt like full on pressure and I think that is one thing, if nothing else that Wolak will bring. Burns/Lareya has had a pretty bizarre market with Burns doubling in odds only to go out again. Cotto should beat Mayorga but the question is how? Finally is Martinez a little bit over rated after his last wins? Not sure on all the questions above and input would be appreciated. I fancy a little treble with the main fights but cant help but think there will be some form of upset this weekend.

I like Vazquez too... I don't think Zappa is as good as people hype him up to be, and his win over Kim is blown out of proportion because the styles mesh perfectly for him... Zappa is a much better and cleverer version of a pressure fighter than Kim, but Vazquez dealt with the style very well... I agree, Foreman should beat Wolak by decision. Much has been made about Wolak's ability to put pressure on Foreman, but I don't think Foreman should have too much to worry about as long as his knee holds up. Wolak was put down by Pinzon in his last outing and the wars he's been in is beginning to catch up with him IMO. My knowledge of Joseph Laryea is limited. He's got a split-decision victory over Paul Appleby, but that's it. Burns by decision seems the best option here, or maybe a late stoppage. Cotto/Mayorga is one to leave alone for me. If Mayorga is on-song, Cotto's got his work cut out. Cotto is NOT a junior middleweight. Mayorga is a BIG junior middleweight. If he's interested, an upset might be on the cards. Maybe he's there for the paycheck and Cotto will smack him around until he quits on his stool. I'm having a little punt on Dzinziruk by decision here, and I can guarantee this will be one of the dullest fights of the year (hope it bites me back in the end). He's a good fighter, and I considered him as the top 154 lbs fighter before his long-winded split with Universum. Martinez ain't getting any younger, and will be facing a fighter who might be a good enough spoiler to win. - Miguel Vazquez by decision/technical decision [vs. Lenny Zappavigna] x Yuri Foreman by decision/technical decision [vs. Pawel Wolak] @ 3.49/1 (10 points) [sportingBet] - Miguel Vazquez by decision/technical decision [vs. Lenny Zappavigna] @ 8/5 (4 points) - Ricky Burns by decision/technical decision [vs. Joseph Laryea] @ 5/4 (5 points) [sportingBet] - Sergiy Dzinziruk by decision/technical decision [vs. Sergio Martinez] @ 6/1 (2 points) [sportingBet]

[LtfcPete]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Back to +119.42pts for the year after Hatton’s survival against Alvarez.. R.Burns to bt. J.Laryea by Decision or Technical Decision 7.5pts 2.38 StanJames R.Burns to bt. J.Laryea 7-12 3pts 3.50 Skybet I’m reticent to take Burns to stop anyone to be honest, he had a big size and reach advantage against Evensen last time out but never looked like getting the little Norweigan out of there, he had Martinez hurt at times but couldn’t stop him and the last guy he stopped was a shot Michael Gomez two years ago. However, I think there’s a fairly big gulf in class here and this could see Burns chopping his way to a stoppage. Laryea is a strange one, he looked decent against Appleby but the Scot never turned up and the Ghanaians record isn’t the best. He doesn’t look the most durable either, Appleby hurt him to the body early in their bout and he’s been stopped in Ghana before. He’s big and rangy and holds advantages over Burns in those areas. Burns certainly doesn’t strike me as someone who’ll look past a fight like Appleby did perhaps and he’s not one to get involved in a shootout so I think a points win is the most likely outcome. With these stakes the points win will return almost even money. C.McEwan v A.Lee Over 9.5 Rounds 7.5pts 1.67 Boylesports Fancy this one to go the distance, neither has thunderous power and both are very evenly matched in my opinion, although I’ve not seen as much of McEwan as I have of Lee. The pair have met in the amateurs with Lee winning on points and I’d be surprised if this one doesn’t last the 10 round distance. Y.Foreman to bt. P.Wolak by Decision or Technical Decision 7.5pts 1.90 Ladbrokes I agree with Dafs here, Wolak is very crude and you certainly know what you’re going to get with him. He’ll bring pressure and won’t be discouraged by being outboxed, which I expect him to be here. It was alarming to see the size of the brace on Foreman’s knee last time out against Cotto but you have to assume this has healed somewhat coming into this one. Over the 10 round distance I can see him comfortably collecting rounds by boxing from range and staying away from Wolak’s swarms. The gulf in class is palpable, hopefully Foreman’s in good condition with regards to his knee and if he is I can see him winning this comfortably. S.Martinez to bt. S.Dzinziruk by Decision or Technical Decision 10pts 1.83 Ladbrokes S.Martinez v S.Dzinziruk Draw 0.5pts 29.00 Skybet I think this one goes the distance here and will likely be one for the purists. Dzinziruk is a jab heavy type and a much more mechanical type of boxer than the cute Martinez and holds a good guard. Martinez’ KO of the year contender against Williams last time out flatters to deceive somewhat. Williams was wild and lunged in, something Dzinziruk is unlikely to replicate. Dzinziruk’s good defensive approach is part of the reason he has amassed a 37-0 record but also part of the reason he remains far beyond star status. I don’t see Martinez finishing Dzinziruk mainly because I don’t think the Ukrainian will put himself in a situation to be stopped. It could be tight but I think Martinez will be able to produce enough offensively to take this one on the scorecards.

[superfoo]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread 3pts Burns bt Lareya 7-9 11/2 Sporting Bet 3pts Burns bt Lareya 10-12 13/2 Sporting Bet Burns has stated he is going to the body in this fight believing its Lareyas weakness. Added pressure aslo due to Nelsons comments about the best in Scotland etc. Not the biggest puncher but the Ghanaian has shown he can be hurt. If Burns can get respect early and put his opponent on the back foot he may have a chance of a grind down stoppage.

[LtfcPete]

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3pts Burns bt Lareya 7-9 11/2 Sporting Bet 3pts Burns bt Lareya 10-12 13/2 Sporting Bet Burns has stated he is going to the body in this fight believing its Lareyas weakness. Added pressure aslo due to Nelsons comments about the best in Scotland etc. Not the biggest puncher but the Ghanaian has shown he can be hurt. If Burns can get respect early and put his opponent on the back foot he may have a chance of a grind down stoppage.

If he keeps it to the body as he did in the first 3 this has got a good chance I think, got away from them in the 4th though...

[superfoo]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Zappavigna v Vazquez Relatively under the radar this fight.Watched as much footage as I can find and I still fancy Vazquez. His upright stance is a concern and he can look frail but he too some solid shots against Prescott although he was caught walking on to a jab in the first. Lenny Zap is a prospect but he still looks a bit raw despite an inmpressive ko against Kim to earn this.Zap is undefeated but this is a step up again. Decent amateur career but he is not used to occasions such as these - his win over Kim was in a noyt full looking sports centre. The last time Zap fought on tyhe big stage he kind of choked, taking what many consider a controversial decision, though Angulo had a 3lb advantage he still hit the Aussie to much - especially in the 2nd half. Vazquez has 3 losses - 2 to Alvarez and one to Bradley but theses were at 140-147, not the 130 he seems currently comfortable with. A concern though is that Vazquez two best wins cam against sluggers who he relatively easily outboxed, zAPPAVIGNA COULD PROVE THE SAME THOUGH UNLESS HE BOXES SMART AND PICKS HIS SHOT - WHICH HE HAS THE MAMTEUR PEDIGREE TO DO. Vazquez is very awkward though and Sergio Mora stated that he qould beat Prescott stating that no-one in the gym likes sparring him due to his style and how difficult he is to hit cleanly. Little annoyed at missing prices as Ive known I was going to play this for a while. Outright odds of odds against are now BP 8/11. eVEN WITH THE POINTS VICTORY i HAVE MISSED 7/4. Rcommended bet 30pts Vazquez bt Zappavigna Dec/TD 6/4 GENERALLY

[superfoo]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Cotto v Mayorga Cant help but think this is going to be a good one. That doesnt necessarily mean I think a stoppage is inevitable. Mayorga is durable, despite getting caught in the dying seconds in a seriously competitive fight with Mosely and getting spanked by DLH when apparently not right mentally. It could also be arguet Cotto, who was never rreally a one punch ko specialist, has not really carried up his punch damage to 154. Even earlier in his careeer they were more wear down stoppages. I think Cotto should win but Mayorga seems to have taken this seriously and looks physically good but you cant help but think Mayorgas out of ring antics must take their toll, especially in his late 30s. Wouldnt be surprised to see this go the distance AND THINK ITS OVERPRICED but will take insurance on a late Cotto stoppage. Recommended bets 20pts Cotto bt Mayorga Dec/TD 7/2 SportingBet 5pts Cotto bt Mayorga 9-12 6/1 Bet365 6pts Cotto bt Mayorga 7-12 7/4 Skybet

[superfoo]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Dzinzurek v Martinez Just taking a punt against Martinez here. Think he is semi unjustifiably hyped. Doubt the Ukranian will get the decision though unless he dominate, hopefully not. Martinez is on the map due to his ko of Williams - a punch Williams walked into that was in effect a wild swing. That and a suspected drunk Pavlik being the best wins on his ledger. Dzinzurek to me is quite live though from a technical point of view. He holds a win against the solid Konecny and could maybe cause Martinez problems though I doubt he will get any favours on the cards. Recommended bets 3pts Dzinzurek bt Martinez 4/1 Bet365 3pts Dzinzurek bt Martinez Dec/TD 13/2 bET365

[LtfcPete]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Yeah, it seems that even in his home country he's not been judge-friendly so it'll be even harder across the pond I guess. Broke even on the Burns fight, good call foo. I was really not sure about this one but the more I think about Cotto the more I think he'll struggle to get Mayorga out of there; I expect him to be somewhat gunshy against a bigger guy with decent pop. Could live to regret this one though. As foo says, it's a great price and Mayorga looked much better at the weigh in than he did before his scheduled bout with Din Thomas.. M.Cotto to bt. R.Mayorga by Decision or Technical Decision 6pts 4.50 SportingBet M.Cotto to bt. R.Mayorga 10-12 1pt 7.00 Bet365

[LtfcPete]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread That Foreman tip was possibly the worst piece of advice I've ever given, certainly underestimated Wolak. Great shout with Vasquez foo, dominated the fight and it went as closely to a script as you could imagine really. Zappavigna really needs to go back to fundamentals. Seemed to me like a poor man's Rios-Acosta that bout. Mayorga's hand injury cost me a profit there, 2 minutes away from it and Cotto never looked like stopping him before that. Broke even on the Burns and Cotto fights, Boyles paid out on the McEwan-Lee bet so -12.97 for the day, down to +106.45pts for the year.

[DafsT]

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- Miguel Vazquez by decision/technical decision [vs. Lenny Zappavigna] x Yuri Foreman by decision/technical decision [vs. Pawel Wolak] @ 3.49/1 (10 points) [sportingBet] - Miguel Vazquez by decision/technical decision [vs. Lenny Zappavigna] @ 8/5 (4 points) - Ricky Burns by decision/technical decision [vs. Joseph Laryea] @ 5/4 (5 points) [sportingBet] - Sergiy Dzinziruk by decision/technical decision [vs. Sergio Martinez] @ 6/1 (2 points) [sportingBet]

I might as well give up :\ -10.60 points...

[superfoo]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Stayed off here until yesterday as waanted to watch the fights. Really happy with the way I called the fights at the weekend. Didnt make as much as I could or wouldve liked mind. The Mayorga stoppage was a big blow with the hand as I reckon he couldve made it to the bell and was surprised Mayorga stll waved it off, covered it with insurance but should really have cashed with it instead of going gung ho. Didnt go with the gut with Burns and though profit was made it was low stakes. Also missed the price with Vazquez when I knew I was going to back him a month or so ago but also jibbed on the stake when it came to it. Glad it went as expected but have only read reports and not seen coverage. Had a look for links but it was all Martinez andCotto - anybody any help there? Same appliees regarding a link to the Foreman fight. This fight to be honest I was saved.m The value on Foreman had gone by the time I posted and got round to punting. Plus I had read what Houston said about Foreman dealing with pressre fighters and that put me off and kudos to him for his analysis. Martinez looked real sharap and I will think twice before backing against him again - even with a tickle - personallly I thouught he looked v. good. Not after eventing as I didnt get them on but Degale was 6/4 to go over 3 whichhad disappeared by the time I wanted to make my play as did the over 9 at 4/6 with Barros. Finally, although there was no market I think a decent price could have been had for Grant to spark Fields. This year I had stated I was going to up my stakes in order to hit my 2k but still am reluctant to pull the trigger and I know that when I do it will go tits up:( Nevertheless another profitable weekendso will keep rolling.

[superfoo]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Dafs man dont get disheartened it happens to us all. Sttick to justifying in the way you do and it will swing.

[LtfcPete]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread +106.45pts for the year.. O.Afolabi to bt. L.Suda on pts (After 12 Rounds) 7.5pts 1.80 Skybet O.Afolabi to bt. L.Suda 10-12 1pt 7.00 Skybet O.Afolabi v L.Suda Draw 0.25pts 34.00 Skybet Suda seems to be a durable type, his only stoppage defeat coming from an injury against Alexander Kotlobay. Afolabi is a strange type of boxer; he’s very awkward and borderline lazy at times. He’s not much of a puncher, stopping only 6 of 15. He looks to be a cut above Suda though who at 35 has lost widely each time he’s been stepped up in competition. Afolabi is the house fighter here and I expect him to win on the cards. V.Klitschko to bt. O.Solis 7-12 10pts 3.00 Skybet V.Klitschko to bt. O.Solis by Unanimous Decision 4pts 3.75 Skybet I don’t see Solis, for all his talent, beating Klitschko here. Although I thought he looked stiff against Sosnowski, he was never in any trouble and used that piston jab to control the fight and then followed this by looking years younger against Briggs which makes you think he may have taken the Pole somewhat lightly. I don’ think he’ll do the same with Solis, who is a guy who really shouldn’t be a heavyweight when you consider the weight he was when he had so much success in the amateurs and also when you see how much extra timber he carries, but is nevertheless very talented. There’s about a 46lbs difference from Solis’ amateur weight to what he scaled yesterday. To illustrate his fleshiness, he weighed in just 3lbs less than the champion but will be giving up at least five and a half inches in height to Klitschko. To be fair, that’s relatively slender for him but I think that the height difference is going to be the biggest factor to overcome. I feel like there’s a chance he can take Klitschko all the way but I think the bet is for the Ukrainian to end it in the second half of the fight. Solis’ general condition makes you question his heart and commitment and I have a feeling that if he takes even half of the punishment that Shannon Briggs took in Klitschko’s last bout then he’ll find a way out. He doesn’t seem the type to go balls out to get the win and I don’t think he has much of a chance. W.Casey to bt. G.Rigondeaux 7-12 2.5pts 15.00 SportingBet G.Rigondeaux to bt. W.Casey 7-12 7.5pts 3.60 SportingBet W.Casey v G.Rigondeaux Draw 0.25pts 41.00 Betfred With regards to the first selection I just feel there’s a chance of this one coming off. Rigondeaux is much the better boxer but Casey will have a fair size advantage and has nothing to lose. I expect Casey to make this a fight and he could surprise the little Cuban with his pressure and aggression. If Casey has been taken lightly by Rigondeaux then I think the Irishman can make him pay and maybe catch him. He’ll be cheered on by the home crowd which really can make a difference as we’ve seen in many Irish arenas in the past. However, Rigondeaux is vastly superior to Casey in terms of skill and experience and he won’t be facing an elusive type like Cordoba who gave him some trouble in his last outing. Casey will be there to hit, it’s just a matter of whether he can stop the Irishman. I feel he’ll be hit cleanly too many times and I think a late stoppage is the likely outcome on paper. I’ll be having the larger than usual saver on Casey though as I think it’s a great price and Rigondeaux has the sort of style that I think could see him upset sometime in near future. L.Bute to bt. B.Magee 7-12 7.5pts 3.00 (7-9/10-12 Dutched) Bet365 L.Bute to bt. B.Magee by Decision or Technical Decision 2.5pts 4.00 Bet365 You have to be tough as nails to go the distance with Bute at the minute. Overall, the Romanian has stopped 22 of 27 but is in the midst of a really brutal run of form. He’s stopped 6 of his last 7 opponents and the only 2 he hasn’t in the past 4 years are the particularly hard Sakio Bika and Librado Andrade. Bute stopped Andrade in a rematch, dispatching him in 4 and forcing the Mexican’s first stoppage loss. Bute is perhaps the best of the 168lb crop at the moment, and that’s saying a lot with the current batch of super middles. Magee won’t stand much of a chance here in my opinion, he’s a good boxer but at 35 has seen better days. He’s no stranger to the floor, having been stopped by Carl Froch in 2006 and was down 5 times in 2 combined bouts with Robin Reid and Jerry Elliot in 2004. I fancy Bute to continue his tear here tonight. L.Walsh/V.Klitschko/L.Bute/G.Rigondeaux 4-fold 10pts 1.80 Boyles

[wrimc]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Been a bit quiet recently because have been unsure with some of the recent set of fights but there is definitely money to be made tonight Liam Walsh fights Jon Kays in his home lancashire for the commonwealth title. Walsh is an impressive boxer puncher and the most advanced in pro terms of the 3 boxing walsh brothers. Despite going into his opponents backyard he will have a fair bit of support from his own vocal fans. He has a few knockouts on his record but i expect Kays to last the course Walsh on pts after 12 rounds 9/4 skybet 5pts The cinderella man Willie Casey takes on Cuban Amateur 2 time gold medalist Guillermo Rigondeaux. Though he has home advantage thats pretty much the only advantage he has against Rigo who is top class. This style mashup favours Rigo who should be able to expose Caseys come forward style and pick him off. I expect Rigo to stop a brave Casey within the distance Rigondeaux in rounds 1-12 4/5 skybet 50 pts I had hopes that Solis would come in better shape for the biggest night of his pro career alas he is still fat and any hopes i had of him beating Vitali have diminished. Ill have a little dabble on exact method of victory. Klitschko wins by RTD 25/1 skybet 2pts

[LtfcPete]

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I had hopes that Solis would come in better shape for the biggest night of his pro career alas he is still fat and any hopes i had of him beating Vitali have diminished. Ill have a little dabble on exact method of victory. Klitschko wins by RTD 25/1 skybet 2pts

I like that one a lot, must've missed it going to have a punt on it myself. :ok V.Klitschko to bt. O.Solis by RTD 1.5pts 26.00 Skybet

[League1_punter]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread :rollin1st round KO. Dont follow boxing but one look at the weigh in photos suggested there was only going to be one winner. Solis looked so overweight and so unfit. Not seen the fight but im guessing the crowd wouldnt have been to happy with Solis.

[LtfcPete]

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:rollin1st round KO. Dont follow boxing but one look at the weigh in photos suggested there was only going to be one winner. Solis looked so overweight and so unfit. Not seen the fight but im guessing the crowd wouldnt have been to happy with Solis.

HAHAHAHA Yes that was very funny, especially as if it had gone one single second longer then myself and wrimc would've won big as Solis would've been retired due to his injury. Also, I've no idea why you chose to comment but if you did follow boxing you'd know Solis looked as good as he ever has as a pro so nothing whatsoever was decided at the weigh in. If you add up Suda's cut, Mayorga's hand injury, Solis' leg injury and Laryea's hand injury I've had some pretty rough luck these past week with freak occurrences. It'd be nice if Bute can follow the script as Rigondeaux finished his fight early doors also although it must be said he looked absolutely awesome so no complaints there. :hope

[superfoo]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Prizefighter This is a real tricky event in my opinion but am going to have a punt as usual but none of this is with much confidence as Ive only seen 3 of these guys fight before. Disappointing final line up considering what was proposed. Anyway speculative thoughts below. 5pts Reed bt Ainscough KO/TKO/DQ Skybet 7/1 Ainscough has been out of the ring for a couple of years after a stabbing, came back with a 1 round blowout the other week that doesn’t tell much. Seems determined and will be a house fighter, although the outsider. I think value can be had with Reed here as you don’t know how his body will react against a competetive fighter after what has happened. Cant say what power Reed has but 2 stoppages in 5 (one against fellow prizefighter Smyle)both from his last two fights, that were a weight above mind. A negative is that he was stopped by someone who hadnt fought for 10 years. Still 7/1 appeals. 5 pts Dilks bt Smyle KO/TKO/DQ Skybet 17/2 Another wild punt based on Smyles record. The guy seems seriously impressive with his physique but as mentioned above was stopped by Reed. Dilks isnt the biggest puncher and is coming off a bad loss but his opponent has been down before early on as well against Reed. This is Prizefighter and one good punch…. 5pts Fielding bt Maxwell Dec/TD Sporting Bat 1/1 Maxwell is/was a big puncher but has been out of the ring for a couple of yaers. Rocky has not lost a round in his 3 fights and has a decent amateur background but it’s a step up even if his opponent is rusty. 5pts Webb bt Reid by Dec/TD Skybet 7/4 Another shot in the dark. Again Reid has not fought for a long time and a rusty performance against trialhorse Ambler got him in the mix. Webb is my idea of the winner though. Unbeaten in 5 he has a decent amateur background. In his 1^st two fights he beat former winner Mendy (0-1 at time) and won every roud against Bambula before his rejuvenation. The nephew of Enzo talks a sensible game as well and loves the sport. Don’t think Reid can be stopped but I fancy youth to overcome experience. To be honest Im stuck with this field so I stole an idea from the trends threads in Horse Racing to narrow down the field. Tbh there wasn’t anything that stood out massively. Its not to be taken too seriously but one that eliminates nearly half the field is that no fighter has won with more than a 10 month layoff (that being Audley). So on that reckoning I discount Reid, Maxwell and Ainscough. I think it’s a fair enough stat tbh as ringrust is sure to show and to win it you are going to come up against 3 fifferent styles. Another one is that Casey had the least amount of fights for a winner (5). That rather harshly rules out Fielding who has only fought 3 times. That leaves Webb, Dilks, Reed as going to discount Snyles as posted above getting beat by Dilks. That leaves me stuck. I think Dilks is the rightful favourite but tales of drinking after the Degale fight put me off. And by my reckoning only 4/5 faves have won out of 15 events. Dilks is also in the tough side of the draw with Webb who I also think could do well but he has to go through the 2 market leaders to get to the final. This leaves Reed which I aint too pleased about but I reckon its between him and Fielding who will reach the final from that half of the draw and I have previously discounted Fielding on lack of experience. Didn’t particularly like what seemed a lack of confidence on Ringside but Im pretty sure he will be ready physically, even if he is a bit unnerved on the big stage. Daft way of doing it but for now will take him outright at 13/2 though wi;; probably come back for more tomorrow but I think I fancy Webb but missed 7s and plenty at 6s at the moment. 5 pts Reed win prizefighter 13/2 SportingBet

[Evertonboy]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Robin Reid at just less than 9/2 on Betfair. Unbelievable price for a former world champion. Granted he hasn't fought for a few years but he is clearly a class above the rest. Dutched with sound boxer Fielding from the other half of the draw.

[Matt]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread On Reid as well tonight, no idea what shape he is but it just has to be worth a punt with what he is up agaisnt. 4/1 I can get, it will be massive if he is in decent shape.

[superfoo]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Hes in good shape Matt but was rusty last week beating a journeyman by a point. Anyway Im going for Webb as well, he has been backed and missed 7s. 5pts Webb win Prizefighter 11/2 various

[mmarchant]

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On Reid as well tonight, no idea what shape he is but it just has to be worth a punt with what he is up agaisnt. 4/1 I can get, it will be massive if he is in decent shape.

He looked in fantastic shape on the scales.. plus, he said, he had prepared with a 10 week training camp.. most of the other guys only did a 6 week camp.. i think he had 'one eye' on this when he fought last.. didn't want to get injured or over exert himself.. The 3 round fights, then a rest inbetween fights will aide his 40 year old body.. he's more experienced, a smarter fighter and fought at a much higher level.. I fully expect, if he uses the skills/experience he's got, to win this outright.. that said.. this is.. 'Prizefighter' ha ha.. anything can and usually does happen!

[mmarchant]

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He looked in fantastic shape on the scales.. plus, he said, he had prepared with a 10 week training camp.. most of the other guys only did a 6 week camp.. i think he had 'one eye' on this when he fought last.. didn't want to get injured or over exert himself.. The 3 round fights, then a rest inbetween fights will aide his 40 year old body.. he's more experienced, a smarter fighter and fought at a much higher level.. I fully expect, if he uses the skills/experience he's got, to win this outright.. that said.. this is.. 'Prizefighter' ha ha.. anything can and usually does happen!

End of round 2 and.. I'm already eating my hat!!! ha ha... d'oh..

[Matt]

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End of round 2 and.. I'm already eating my hat!!! ha ha... d'oh..

yep, shame but the reflexes and sharpness just isnt there.... Dilks tournament for the taking this. edit: my kiss of death on Dilks :lol

[mmarchant]

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yep, shame but the reflexes and sharpness just isnt there.... Dilks tournament for the taking this.

The 'curse' of "Prizefighter' ha ha.. you couldn't make this up!!! that's why.. I love gambling!!!! ha ha ^^ yep.. matches my 'kiss of death' tipping 'Reid'!!

[infamous]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Feel for the Reed backers there. Nothing short of a disgrace that and as bent as you like. Excuse being banded around was that the judge got the fighters mixed up - if that's the case then reverse the decision! Was clear who won especially as the other bloke was put on his backside during the fight! Glad I didn't have money on it but would be seething if I did. Element of perhaps protecting the home fighter there and giving him an easy route. Farcical.

[superfoo]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Late as per usual, and pissed! No wirte up really. ahall isnt the biggest puncher ad despite Donnelly quitting against reid i feel he can go some rounds withthe wear down Hall. Steigletz beats Gevor imo who comes in on late notice, camp has already complained about the judges, Stieglitz is solid at the weight but Geevor is game. hall v Donelly 8.5+ roinds 4/6 skybet stieglitz bt gevor dec 6/5 sky bet 2 x 10pt singles 1 x 10pt double toatl stake 30 pts

[Evertonboy]

Re: 2011 Boxing Thread Amir Kahn 24(17)-1(1)-0 v Paul McCloskey 22(12)-0-0 I'll start of by giving my opinion on the records of both fighters through analysing boxrec. Firstly, Kahn has an impressive 71% knockout ratio, he also has impressive skills as looking back he has barely lost a round throughout his career in his fights that have gone the distance, the exception being his last fight agianst Maidana. He of course has the 1 bad knockout loss on his record and has been in trouble in the past, most notably in the tenth round of his last fight against Maidana. He is proven World level fighter (atleast to compared to his opponent)- this is his 5th fight at this level. Boxrec currently rate his last 5 opponents 4-16-122-16-41 in there respective divisions. Kahn is rated number 2 to Timothy Bradley. McCloskey is unbeaten in his professional career boasting a 54% knockout ration including stoppage wins over his last 5 opponents. He is currently the European champion, however he has only had 3 fights at the level. According to boxrec he was put on the floor against Chill (1KO on his record) in his early days, it does not explain the situation nor can i find a video, so I would appreciate if somebody could fill in the blanks regarding this please? Boxrec ranks his last 5 opponents 70-46-133-161-50. He is of course, a southpaw. Summary Boxing is all about levels, and Kahn clearly has fought the higher level and has bags of big fight experience. However, you always come back to the question marks over his chin. He claims he proved he has a chin by survivng that torrid 10th v Maidana, In my opinion he proved he has the heart but he was on dream street for most of the round and had he been the challenger he would of been stopped. But thats just my opinion. McCloskey might not be the biggest puncher, but he's a southpaw and he's awkard. I dont think he has the skills to outbox Kahn but I think he could trouble him at some point. Given that McCloskey has never been in trouble - I am willing to back him to survive 12 rounds. Recommended Bet: LAY Amir Kahn TKO, KO and DQ @ 1.47 or for those without Betfair, BACK McCloskey KO, TKO and DQ @ 10/1 (Boylesports) and BACK Kahn on points @ 100/30 (Bet365, Tote, Paddy Power)