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4:05 Wolves Ornate 14/1 bet365 ew
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9 hours ago, Darran said:
Do them on the tote then if you think you are being ripped off?
I can remember when bog didn’t exist and to be honest I only have it still with one firm now anyway. Yuh
With respect. Quite a naïve comment that Darran you put £50 on a horse on the tote and watch what happens especially at the moment with the only tote bets being online through lack of racegoers. and i don't think i am being ripped off, i know i'm being ripped off, at one time we were dealing with bookmakers we now deal with accountants.
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2:45 Newmarket Zakaria 20/1 ew bet365
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Just now, Zilzalian said:
I watch a lot of racing i also watch a lot of the betting movements and it is my opinion that the sp is 99% of the time less than the last show (sometimes many points shorter). this is what happens when there are no on course bookies. the offline firms (all accountants not bookies) can pretty much do as they like. A further observation is that more often than not half the field is shortened up either just before the off or after it, I bet lots of FC and TC and the returns are getting murdered, 10+ horse being shortened up when only one can win is not a level playing field. The worse thing about it is we can do nothing about it.
Just one example from from today Brian the Snail last show 14/1 = sp 11/1 not only did it reduce the winners sp but in doing so significantly reduced the forecast and tricast.
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I watch a lot of racing i also watch a lot of the betting movements and it is my opinion that the sp is 99% of the time less than the last show (sometimes many points shorter). this is what happens when there are no on course bookies. the offline firms (all accountants not bookies) can pretty much do as they like. A further observation is that more often than not half the field is shortened up either just before the off or after it, I bet lots of FC and TC and the returns are getting murdered, 10+ horse being shortened up when only one can win is not a level playing field. The worse thing about it is we can do nothing about it.
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12:10 Deau Ideal Beauty 13/2 bet365
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11 minutes ago, Zilzalian said:
Agree with your assessment of intimate moment got it very close with spirit in the sky so RFC it is, should pay well.
well that one went pear shaped and what a shame the old duke got nabbed on the line.
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2 hours ago, Bathtime For Rupert said:
Another frustrating day with The Bravest beaten a short head, Peace Prevails also 2nd and Sin E Shekells travelling best of all to dispute 2f out yet finishing 4th at 16/1.
Wolverhampton fancies - all prices Bet365:
4.25 - 2pts win Pax Britannica @ 9/2 - dropped substantially in class from last time against horses in the 70s and still ran respectably despite being keen. The slightly easier track here will suit and down a couple of pounds in the handicap too.
5.00 - 1pt e/w Trusty Rusty @ 12/1 - agree with mase here and a horse who was chinned at big odds for me a couple of starts back. Ground an excuse last time, fair draw to bounce out from and track can suit those on the pace so looks to have solid each way hopes at a price.
5.30 - 2pts e/w Deftera Lad @ 9/2 - this looks an each-way bet to nothing as very difficult to see him out of the frame. Form figures at Wolverhampton read 434121352 so rarely runs a big race here and this isn't strong. Mark is fine too and drawn well so with a bit of luck, ought to go very close.
6.00 - 1pt e/w Heer We Go Again @ 8/1 - been running exclusively on the turf recently but form suggests he's best on the artificial surfaces and over 5f. Has had excuses with ground and trip recently but is drawn in stall 1 here so can bounce out under perfect conditions and hopefully be tough to pass.
6.30 - 1pt e/w Intimate Moment @ 25/1 - showed promise last year and whilst being a bit in and out since, has shown promise and enough to suggest she can win off this sort of mark. Ran better that the result suggests at Kempton last time over 6f, only fading late on and the drop to 5f is ideal around here. Well drawn and looks overpriced.
Agree with your assessment of intimate moment got it very close with spirit in the sky so RFC it is, should pay well.
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Wolvs
425 mystery mac
600 kingsholm
730 atalanta breeze
830 rainbird
five bob ew lucky 15 wont bankrupt anyone
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an observation from this quarter the 4:25 at Wolves see's two hughie morrison horses sulochana 4/1 and Mystery mac at 10/1 I will stick my neck out and say that Mystery Mac will finish in front of sulochana who has little chance of winning on my book.
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1 hour ago, Zico10 said:
Hope you did the forecast!
Yes i always do All ways fc and always tc when i go to the trouble of doing the speed figures, pity roseabad was slowly away but that's life.
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1 hour ago, The Equaliser said:
Got a feeling I should have focussed on Windsor instead of Pontefract. Never mind I can come back later
Just some single win bets today, so far at least. NB last night's best prices shown after jockeys initials
1.45 Pont Naamoos (JF/MJ) 3/1, £2 win at 6 = £9.80 (has a strong favourite to beat. Scary
2.50 Pont Cruyff Turn (DT) 2/1, £2 win at 4.2 (um at 3.75)
3.20 Pont Inexes (JH) 6/1, £1.87 at 12 = £20.16
3.50 Pont Case Key (PM) 9/2, £1.20 win at 11/2 = £7.80
4.20 Pont Jill Rose (HT) 9/2, £1.20 win at 7/1 = £9.60
2.30 Win Tenfold (OM) 6/1, £1.20 win at 8/1
Total stakes £9.47 (if Cruyff Turn gets matched which is looking more unlikely atm)
Just looking at this 1:45 at ponty and doing the speed figures (dodgy this time of year) and for info purposes only i have it between roseabad 12/1 and pythagoras 13/2 and mystery angel 7/1 in that order so i recon the fav isn't that strong prob make a prat of myself but numbers are numbers.
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2:17 Clairefontaine Malini 16/1 bet365
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4 hours ago, roger2256 said:
With all due respect it's only the winning bets that need to be double checked and of those only the ones that have retracted in price so in reality not many .
I'm sure there are members who would be prepared to help out at this difficult time and take on the task of updating the league until a suitable replacement has been found.
As a footnote I'm keen to see it done properly so everyone can see zilzalian's achievement , certainly worthy of a mention and with 13 days left could be close to beating the record this month
Just curious what is the record? and thank you for your comments
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41 minutes ago, LEE-GRAYS said:
Hi fader can’t imagine what a pain it is to check every bet on oddschecker why don’t you do SP only till end of month if that helps cheers lee
doing that (sp) would have cost me about 27 points on my last 3 naps
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120 Ascot Trueshan 20/1 bet365
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240 Fak Wolf of Windlesham 18/1 bet365
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4:55 Long Dantes 20/1 bet365
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Just now, Zilzalian said:
3:20 Bath Chicago Doll 50/1 bet365
sorry should read ew
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3:20 Bath Chicago Doll 50/1 bet365
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7:30 Wolves Prize Fighting 10/1 bet365
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wolvs 630 cinnabar 13/2 bet365
Racing chat - Thursday 22nd October
in At The Races - Racing Forum
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The 4:05 at Wolves tomorrow is a class 2 handicap 11 runners over 5F.
Now here's the thing, put all these horses in a race with Battash, now consider this, how far would Battash beat this lot by?
If Ornate comes last in this race it will still rank in my book as one of the best bets I have ever come across in all my years of betting.
14/1 bet365 is an unbelievable price so i'm getting my wheel barrow out shovelling a pile of money in it and tipping it up in bet365's lobby.