Kanga Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Re: Total Corners: spreads = 145 bets +30% yield, fixed odds = 137 bets +80% yield !! M .... b365 do a good selection of corner bets e.g Stoke v Man Utd Under 11 Corners 2.20 Exactly 11 Corners 8.50 Over 11 Corners 1.83 Liverpool v Hull Under 12 Corners 2.00 Exactly 12 Corners 8.50 Over 12 Corners 2.00 Are they useful ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Re: Total Corners: spreads = 145 bets +30% yield, fixed odds = 137 bets +80% yield !! Yes mate. I got a yield of 80% from 137 bets but then made a hard decision to drop it. Read the last couple of weeks worth of posts of discussion. Basically by posting up fixed odds bets i was risking bet365 pulling the plug on the minor leagues. I now focus on spreads which do not directly translate into fixed odds but by a proxy method of past data fitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 25, 2009 Author Share Posted September 25, 2009 Re: Total Corners: spreads = 145 bets +30% yield, fixed odds = 137 bets +80% yield !! SPREAD SYSTEM spread stake per date home away corners bet corner 26/9/09 Stoke Man Utd 11.50 u 3 26/9/09 Liverpool Hull 11.50 o 1 26/9/09 RealMadrid Tenerife 11.00 u 3 26/9/09 Malaga Barcelona 10.75 u 5 27/9/09 Ajax Den Haag 10.80 u 7 27/9/09 Milan Bari 10.50 u 1 so my largest bet to date - a 7 pointer!! this is found with extrabet, but if you only have Sp.In then it is still a 7 pointer but U 10.75 the rest are Sp.In as per usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ehouse Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Re: Total Corners: spreads = 145 bets +30% yield, fixed odds = 137 bets +80% yield !! On it bud :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 26, 2009 Author Share Posted September 26, 2009 Total Corners: spreads = 145 bets +30% yield, fixed odds = 137 bets +80% yield !! Will update stats on sunday but three big wins. The malaga win is a new all time record. Dont want to go on about this system but how many systems have a 30%+ yield for singles rather than multiples after nearly 150 proofed games? Can anyone confirm this? Is this as close as you get to the 'holy grail'? There. Done it. Cant believe i have used that phrase. What do people think? I have been pretty quiet til now but this is incredible. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr shrewdie Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Re: Total Corners: spreads = 145 bets +30% yield, fixed odds = 137 bets +80% yield !! Impressive stuff muppet, I'm still following you with cash at SI, keep up the good work. :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ehouse Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Re: Total Corners: spreads = 145 bets +30% yield, fixed odds = 137 bets +80% yield !! Its the mutt's nuts :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robcatterall Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corners: spreads = 145 bets +30% yield, fixed odds = 137 bets +80% yield !! Hi Muppet, I've been following your selections using the Betfair Corners Odds when available and Bet365 where I can usually only bet a few pounds. Due to these restrictions, I am going to open an account with Sporting Index - let me know if you would like a referral... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corners: spreads = 145 bets +30% yield, fixed odds = 137 bets +80% yield !! cheers ale, kanga and shrewdie. your advice and following is much appreciated. check this out: SPREAD SYSTEM these bets ALL 4 149 bets 75.0% 52.3% wins 0.0% 3.4% level 25.0% 44.3% losses 50.75 843.40 staked 38.75 277.20 profit 1.94 1.01 profit / 1pt stake 76% 33% yield 33.75 33.75 biggest win -6.00 -18.00 biggest loss SPREAD SYSTEM spread stake per date home away corners bet corner corners profit 26/9/09 Stoke Man Utd 11.50 u 3 9 7.50 26/9/09 Liverpool Hull 11.50 o 1 15 3.50 26/9/09 RealMadrid Tenerife 11.00 u 3 13 -6.00 26/9/09 Malaga Barcelona 10.75 u 5 4 33.75 YIELD CHANGE 37% 48.25 36% 34.43 35% 21.03 34% 8.03 33% 0 32% -2.34 31% -8.77 30% -15.30 29% -21.93 The Malaga game is my new world record profit for a game. BOOM! :nana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corners: spreads = 145 bets +30% yield, fixed odds = 137 bets +80% yield !! Hi Muppet' date=' I've been following your selections using the Betfair Corners Odds when available and Bet365 where I can usually only bet a few pounds. Due to these restrictions, I am going to open an account with Sporting Index - let me know if you would like a referral...[/quote'] yes please bud! :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robcatterall Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 149 bets +33% yield Ok, do you have a link or referral id? Just signing up, I need Friend's Name: Friend's Account Number: send me an e-mail if you'd prefer, my username at hotmail . com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 149 bets +33% yield erm not sure buddy?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 149 bets +33% yield would prefer to email buddy, can you put your email up then remove it when i post to say i've seen it? no worries if not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robcatterall Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 149 bets +33% yield removed e-mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 149 bets +33% yield got it - remove it. will be easier when you get to 50 (?) posts to enable instant private messaging on here. let me know when you get the email. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robcatterall Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 149 bets +33% yield ok, got it cheers. Will create an account today at some point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 149 bets +33% yield cheers mate. don't forget to remove your address from post 404. ;) and i have just realised that you hinted at your address earlier!! sorry! d'oh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 149 bets +33% yield hope everyone's tuning into the ajax game at 1130 on ESPN if you have it. :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ehouse Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 149 bets +33% yield hope everyone's tuning into the ajax game at 1130 on ESPN if you have it. :hope 7-pointer today :hope for only 1 corner... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardman123 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 149 bets +33% yield Unbelievable results again Muppet. Don't know how you do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 149 bets +33% yield 7-pointer today :hope for only 1 corner... ;) i'm hoping for no corners !!! (1 in 25,000 chance approximately) these are the only games i have record of (all Spanish) 10/09/2006SociedadSevilla01/11/2007EspanolMurcia18/05/2008SevillaAthBilbao04/04/2009AthBilbaoMallorca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 149 bets +33% yield 8 first half corners in the Ajax game. :puke oh dear, looks like that world record win is going to be offset a bit. 11 now, and counting but hopefully will be 12/13 in total and we'll cut our losses there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ehouse Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 149 bets +33% yield 13. Rough with the smooth, nevermind muppet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 149 bets +33% yield DRAT! oh well, still a +36% yield this weekend! SPREAD SYSTEM YIELD CHANGE these bets ALL 34% 38.94 1 150 bets 33% 25.64 0.0% 52.0% wins 32% 12.73 0.0% 3.3% level 31% 0.19 100.0% 44.7% losses 30% 0 15.40 858.80 staked 29% -6.53 -15.40 261.80 profit 28% -13.26 -1.93 0.88 profit / 1pt stake 27% -20.10 -100% 30% yield 26% -27.05 -15.40 33.75 record win -15.40 -18.00 record loss SPREAD SYSTEM spread stake per date home away corners bet corner corners profit 27/9/09 Ajax Den Haag 10.80 u 7 13 -15.40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 150 bets +30% yield and for anoraks like me, these also finished with no corners: NOR 4/8/2008 Lillestrom SK Stromsgodset Drammen 0 NOR 11/8/2008 FC Lyn Olso Lillestrom SK 0 DEN 24/05/2009 RANDERS FC VEJLE 0 so that's 7 matches with no corners from a database of around 23,000 games. fair decimal odds on a random match would be about 3,285! and the highest on database at odds of 23,000 / 1 with a whopping 30 corners: RUS 26/5/2007 PFC Spartak Nalchik FCRostov 30 that's one every 3 minutes! :eek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Joe Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 150 bets +30% yield Did you notice the Stabaek v Stromsgodet game that is currently on in Norway? There were 10 corners in the opening 29 minutes!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 150 bets +30% yield Yes great spot. Bet365 have it to finish on only 15. A classic example of how corners work. An early flurry does not mean that the rate will continue. The match will progress at its pre match rate after the intense period. I wonder how many punters thought ten in 30 mins so piled on the "over" expectation. School boy error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarky101 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 150 bets +30% yield Done a lot of Multi Corners in the past (1st half X 2nd) & can say that its very rare to get 2 high corner halves, its happened to me only 2 or 3 times, & i found if you bought & there was a high 1st half get out with the profit....ps good going with this M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 150 bets +30% yield agreed clarky and thanks for the luck. have you ever considered the over round on multi corners mate? for example the spread margin for Monday's man City game is 3 (33-36). the expected number of multi corners is 34.5 (midpoint) so the overround is 3 / 34.5 = 8.7% whereas on other corner markets like total corners the spread is 0.5 (11.75-12.25) the expected number is 12 (midpoint) so the overround is 0.5/12 = 4.2% ...or half the over round. have a look at some of the other corner markets and their over rounds in the same way. i suppose if multis is what you can do, stick with it. just an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? : 150 bets +30% yield just a quick analysis of the first 150 bets. (it is a milestone to celebrate you know) :clap week bets profit stake yield running yield 9 8 -5.50 39.00 -14% -14% 10 6 28.10 28.10 100% 11 6 9.50 28.50 33% 12 6 -6.95 11.55 -60% 13 2 -2.50 2.50 -100% 14 6 0.20 29.30 1% 15 11 29.60 85.00 35% 16 12 -1.40 49.40 -3% 17 12 -0.15 54.55 0% 18 13 74.65 92.65 81% 19 14 27.85 93.85 30% 20 11 -7.60 61.40 -12% 21 6 20.25 24.25 84% 22 2 -3.70 3.70 -100% 25 1 19.50 19.50 100% 26 1 0.75 0.75 100% 28 1 0.00 0.00 -100% 30 1 8.25 8.25 100% 31 1 2.25 2.25 100% 33 4 2.00 7.00 29% 34 7 -35.15 41.15 -85% 35 1 6.00 6.00 100% 36 2 28.75 37.25 77% 37 2 9.00 9.00 100% 38 7 9.50 32.50 29% 39 7 48.60 91.40 53% month bets profit stake yield running yield February 4 -12.25 31.75 -39% -39% March 25 32.70 80.10 41% April 42 35.60 224.40 16% May 44 106.30 267.50 40% June 2 20.25 20.25 100% July 2 8.25 8.25 100% August 15 3.85 93.65 4% September 16 67.10 132.90 50% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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