Burnley Joe Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Me too 8th, got to final and reeshah had 17k as 9 sit outs on his table, i push with KK he calls with A10 and hits A To be honest he was all in every hand although he would occasionally just call and then let the sit outs win??????????????????/ Was not inpressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeshah Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 How far is it fair to go with Sit Outs? its not against the rules to feed sitouts is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnley Joe Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April Why you were doing it at the final table! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeshah Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April because the sitouts arent close competitors! looks like the whole plan has blown up in my face tho cos now the final table is frozen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeshah Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: e-sports league - Red Aces sorry Joe, but isnt it the smart play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goater14 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: e-sports league - CVG Poker Champions out in 7th not happy! The big chip leader on the final table(due to the fact he had a table full of sit-outs) is folding his hands instead of checking to keep the sit-outs in. i know its not cheating but consider it very unsportsmanlike he will raise when me and the other player are in the blinds(rightly so) but with the sit-outs will call and when the flop comes down instead of checking will fold. Could even say it is chip dumping as he is folding when he should be checking and passing his chips to the sit-outs? perhaps its just me being in a bad mood but it has left a nasty taste in my mouth.:@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeshah Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: e-sports league - CVG Poker Champions sorry if you think its unsportsmanlike but surely this is the only sensible way i can play! obviously i want to protect the sitouts because they arent competitive in the overall standings so i want them to score well!! It prolly wont matter anyways cos the table is now frozen, probably serves me right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avongirl Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April because the sitouts arent close competitors! looks like the whole plan has blown up in my face tho cos now the final table is frozen! :rollin:rollin Bikeradar null points then. :spank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: e-sports league - Red Aces To be honest he was all in every hand although he would occasionally just call and then let the sit outs win??????????????????/ Was not inpressed I folded to sit outs in my game too - my stack was significantly larger than the others at my table - the longer I could keep the sit outs in the game, the greater my advantage (and the increased potential of harming the nearest opposing teams) - I think it's a legitimate tactic :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnley Joe Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: e-sports league - Red Aces Not saying that, but folding to sit outs is fine but calling then chip dumping is not really moral is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnley Joe Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April I think they call it chip dumping, sit out and let them win is fine, but calling and then folding to them is chip dumping in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonzie14 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April its not against the rules to feed sitouts is it? Chip dumping!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: e-sports league - CVG Poker Champions Sorry goater - I cannot agree (and not because he's a team mate) - I took some opportunities tonight to leave sit outs with chips on my table - so long as you're playing for personal gain (which Reeshah and I were), then I cannot see the issue :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April its not against the rules to feed sitouts is it? I'm surprised how much upset it's causing - I did the same with no worries or hesitation, because I believed it was the play to maximise my result. Is the table still frozen? Make sure you get a screen print ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonzie14 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: e-sports league - CVG Poker Champions Sorry goater - I cannot agree (and not because he's a team mate) - I took some opportunities tonight to leave sit outs with chips on my table - so long as you're playing for personal gain (which Reeshah and I were)' date=' then I cannot see the issue :unsure[/quote'] Chip dumping is effectively collusion...you can't see the issue...:eek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kippe6 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: e-sports league - CVG Poker Champions in a live game what would happen if you folded to an empty seat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeshah Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April Chip dumping cant possibly be a rule for the sole reason that its unenforceable. blame the system, blame the fact that there are loads of sitouts but dont blame me for taking advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Puntalot Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April Oi, leave my team mate along or you're all banned! :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnley Joe Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April Im not blaming you for taking advantage but in my opinion you were dumping Enough said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April This is what it says on the Pokerroom website: Chip Dumping Tournament chip dumping is defined as a situation where one player purposely loses chips to another player with the sole intent of increasing their combined chances of winning prize money. Chip Dumping will incur a permanent ban of all involved accounts and the forfeit of all the total value of prize money. In cases of confirmed chip dumping, all REMAINING players in the event, at the time of the offence, will have the total value of the forfeited prize money split amongst them. The sole intent has to be to increase combined chances of winning prize money however in this case the sole intent was just to increase personal results (not in the individual tournament, but in the overall leaderboard) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonzie14 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April This is what it says on the Pokerroom website: The sole intent has to be to increase combined chances of winning prize money however in this case the sole intent was just to increase personal results And what if the sitout belongs to a team who now score more points and so move up the table into a better paid position?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnley Joe Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April Ok But i think here i would say that personal result to gain points to accumulate points to win money at the end of the series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaulc Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April not very sporting though is it?? i will play the sitouts and on a number of occasions i lost,,but i will still do the same again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goater14 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: e-sports league - CVG Poker Champions Nice one chief:clap:clap i think I may of opened up a :$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentJay Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: e-sports league - CVG Poker Champions Well done, Chief! :clap As for the sitout chip-dumping thing - wtf is this league coming to?? Is it not bad enough to have all the sitouts in the first place, without players resorting to these kinda ridiculous tactics, to maybe gain a couple of extra points? How ******* desperate are you, guys?? Geez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaulc Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: e-sports league - CVG Poker Champions cheers guys and slick mick was the one with all the sitouts to himself so we all hit f/t way behind him.....so overall very pleasing. i for one dont agree with their tactics and find it very underhand,but that is my personal opinion.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: e-sports league - CVG Poker Champions Well done, Chief! :clap As for the sitout chip-dumping thing - wtf is this league coming to?? Is it not bad enough to have all the sitouts in the first place, without players resorting to these kinda ridiculous tactics, to maybe gain a couple of extra points? How ******* desperate are you, guys?? Geez. Surely the objective is to play your cards in the best way possible to maximise points for your team :unsure If folding gets you the most points, that should be your action. If calling then folding gets you most points, that should be your action? :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeshah Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April i admit it was very bully-like behavior towards the other non sitouts but isnt bullying what this game is all about? if you were to take this argument a step further consider this scenario, you are on a final table and one of the players is a total donk, you will be much happier losing chips to him than you would be against the others. every player on a table is different and thats what gives you an edge, is knowing how to play against all your opponents, in this situation i bullied the competitors and helped the weak players to maximise my own chances of winning. The only reason it becomes an issue is because players that werent sitouts were hoping to just play tight and hope that the sitouts slowly get eliminated so they can score higher points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillHicks Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April I think it's a clever strategy from reshah to be fair, once he's got that big stack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeshah Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Re: Matchday 15 - Team Bikeradar Kings of Poker - Sunday 27th April I think it's a clever strategy from reshah to be fair' date=' but did someone dump chips to him to build his massive stack in the first place? or had the deck been really kind to him?[/quote'] actually bill i was on a table with 8 sitouts and i elimated the other player quite quickly so i just pressed F3 over and over again for about 20mins and took all their chips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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