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Re: Laying Correct Scores UEFA cup games now added:

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
Ita05-DecInter v Lazio2-19.50Sportingbet9.20-3.2%1.122 82.000.0064.50
Ita05-DecRoma v Cagliari2-110.00Sportingbet9.60-4.0%1.116 86.000.0064.50
Spa05-DecOsasuna v Sevilla1-17.00Canbet7.000.0%1.167 60.000.0064.50
UEFA05-DecBasel v Brann3-112.00BlueSq11.00-8.3%1.100 100.000.0064.50
UEFA05-DecDinamo Zagreb v Hamburg1-16.50Canbet7.007.7%1.167 60.000.0064.50
UEFA05-DecEverton v Zenit St Petersburg2-18.50Sportingbet9.208.2%1.122 82.000.0064.50
UEFA05-DecFC Kobenhavn v Atl Madrid0-17.50Sportingbet7.601.3%1.152 66.000.0064.50
UEFA05-DecMlada Boleslav v AEK0-09.50Victor Chandler9.803.2%1.114 88.000.0064.50
UEFA05-DecNurnberg v AZ Alkmaar1-17.00BlueSq7.000.0%1.167 60.000.0064.50
UEFA05-DecPanathinaikos v Lokomotiv0-09.50Victor Chandler10.5010.5%1.105 95.000.0064.50
UEFA05-DecVillarreal v Elfsborg3-08.00Stan James7.60-5.0%1.152 66.000.0064.50
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Re: Laying Correct Scores Just one score ruining the full house - but 10/11 gives 35pts profit.

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
Ita05-DecInter v Lazio2-19.50Sportingbet9.20-3.2%1.1222-0W82.009.5074.00
Ita05-DecRoma v Cagliari2-110.00Sportingbet9.60-4.0%1.1163-0W86.009.5083.50
Spa05-DecOsasuna v Sevilla1-17.00Canbet7.000.0%1.1671-1L60.00(60.00)23.50
UEFA05-DecBasel v Brann3-112.00BlueSq11.00-8.3%1.1001-0W100.009.5033.00
UEFA05-DecDinamo Zagreb v Hamburg1-16.50Canbet7.007.7%1.1670-2W60.009.5042.50
UEFA05-DecEverton v Zenit St Petersburg2-18.50Sportingbet9.208.2%1.1221-0W82.009.5052.00
UEFA05-DecFC Kobenhavn v Atl Madrid0-17.50Sportingbet7.601.3%1.1520-2W66.009.5061.50
UEFA05-DecMlada Boleslav v AEK0-09.50Victor Chandler9.803.2%1.1140-1W88.009.5071.00
UEFA05-DecNurnberg v AZ Alkmaar1-17.00BlueSq7.000.0%1.1672-1W60.009.5080.50
UEFA05-DecPanathinaikos v Lokomotiv0-09.50Victor Chandler10.5010.5%1.1052-0W95.009.5090.00
UEFA05-DecVillarreal v Elfsborg3-08.00Stan James7.60-5.0%1.1522-0W66.009.5099.50
Europe Bets Placed 188 Units Staked 13,745.00 Units Returned 13,844.50 Profit 99.50 Yield 0.72% Strike Rate 88.83% Average Odds 1.14 Average Stake 73.11
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Re: Laying Correct Scores A bit of interesting analysis (well I think so anyway! :zzz:lol) It's basically the CL and UEFA which is carrying the Europe bank.

CLGerItaSpaUEFA
Bets Placed3435384140
Units Staked1,891.505,053.505,018.504,618.505,479.50
Units Returned2,073.504,948.504,820.004,537.005,782.00
Profit182.00(105.00)(198.50)(81.50)302.50
Yield9.62%-2.08%-3.96%-1.76%5.52%
Strike Rate94.12%85.71%81.58%85.37%97.50%
Average Odds1.151.131.151.141.13
Average Stake70.1877.5470.5870.8576.45
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Re: Laying Correct Scores Today's Waffa Cup games:

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
UEFA06-DecLeverkusen v Sparta Prague2-07.50Paddy7.601.3%1.152 66.000.0099.50
UEFA06-DecSpartak Moscow v FC Zurich0-011.00Bet36511.000.0%1.100 100.000.0099.50
UEFA06-DecAaB v Getafe1-17.00Bet3657.405.7%1.156 64.000.0099.50
UEFA06-DecAnderlecht v Tottenham1-210.00BlueSq10.505.0%1.105 95.000.0099.50
UEFA06-DecAris Thes. v Braga0-09.50Victor Chandler9.40-1.1%1.119 84.000.0099.50
UEFA06-DecAustria Vienna v Panionios1-16.50Canbet6.804.6%1.172 58.000.0099.50
UEFA06-DecBordeaux v Helsingborgs2-19.00Betinternet9.202.2%1.122 82.000.0099.50
UEFA06-DecCrvena Zvezda v Bolton0-09.50Victor Chandler10.005.3%1.111 90.000.0099.50
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Re: Laying Correct Scores 7/8 but a loss of 15.50pts.

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
UEFA06-DecLeverkusen v Sparta Prague2-07.50Paddy7.601.3%1.1521-0W66.009.50109.00
UEFA06-DecSpartak Moscow v FC Zurich0-011.00Bet36511.000.0%1.1001-0W100.009.50118.50
UEFA06-DecAaB v Getafe1-17.00Bet3657.405.7%1.1561-2W64.009.50128.00
UEFA06-DecAnderlecht v Tottenham1-210.00BlueSq10.505.0%1.1051-1W95.009.50137.50
UEFA06-DecAris Thes. v Braga0-09.50Victor Chandler9.40-1.1%1.1191-1W84.009.50147.00
UEFA06-DecAustria Vienna v Panionios1-16.50Canbet6.804.6%1.1720-1W58.009.50156.50
UEFA06-DecBordeaux v Helsingborgs2-19.00Betinternet9.202.2%1.1222-1L82.00(82.00)74.50
UEFA06-DecCrvena Zvezda v Bolton0-09.50Victor Chandler10.005.3%1.1110-1W90.009.5084.00
Europe Bets Placed 196 Units Staked 14,384.00 Units Returned 14,468.00 Profit 84.00 Yield 0.58% Strike Rate 88.78% Average Odds 1.14 Average Stake 73.39
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Re: Laying Correct Scores Prem games:

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
Prem08-DecAston Villa v Portsmouth1-08.00Betdirect8.202.5%1.139 72.000.00230.00
Prem08-DecChelsea v Sunderland3-08.00Skybet7.80-2.5%1.147 68.000.00230.00
Prem08-DecEverton v Fulham2-18.50BlueSQ8.803.5%1.128 78.000.00230.00
Prem08-DecMan Utd v Derby3-07.00Centrebet7.000.0%1.167 60.000.00230.00
Prem08-DecNewcastle v Birmingham2-18.50Sportingbet8.803.5%1.128 78.000.00230.00
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Re: Laying Correct Scores Looks like we're taking on Canbet in Germany today:

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
Ger08-DecB Munich v Duisburg3-08.00Canbet8.000.0%1.143 70.000.0093.50
Ger08-DecBochum v Karlsruhe1-17.00Canbet7.405.7%1.156 64.000.0093.50
Ger08-DecFrankfurt v Schalke1-17.00Canbet7.405.7%1.156 64.000.0093.50
Ger08-DecHamburg v Cottbus1-08.00Victor Chandler7.60-5.0%1.152 66.000.0093.50
Ger08-DecHannover v W Bremen1-17.50Canbet7.804.0%1.147 68.000.0093.50
Ger08-DecStuttgart v Wolfsburg1-18.00Canbet8.607.5%1.132 76.000.0093.50
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Re: Laying Correct Scores Spanish games:

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
Spa08-DecOsasuna v Valencia1-17.00Canbet7.202.9%1.161 62.000.0093.50
Spa08-DecAth Bilbao v Real Madrid1-17.00Canbet7.202.9%1.161 62.000.0093.50
Hoping for no 1-1's then. :\
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Re: Laying Correct Scores Full house in Germany. :)

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
Ger08-DecB Munich v Duisburg3-08.00Canbet8.000.0%1.1430-0W70.009.50103.00
Ger08-DecBochum v Karlsruhe1-17.00Canbet7.405.7%1.1562-2W64.009.50112.50
Ger08-DecFrankfurt v Schalke1-17.00Canbet7.405.7%1.1562-2W64.009.50122.00
Ger08-DecHamburg v Cottbus1-08.00Victor Chandler7.60-5.0%1.1520-0W66.009.50131.50
Ger08-DecHannover v W Bremen1-17.50Canbet7.804.0%1.1474-3W68.009.50141.00
Ger08-DecStuttgart v Wolfsburg1-18.00Canbet8.607.5%1.1323-1W76.009.50150.50
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Re: Laying Correct Scores Was looking good in the Prem too.... until the last minute at Newcastle. :puke So 30.50pts loss.

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
Prem08-DecAston Villa v Portsmouth1-08.00Betdirect8.202.5%1.1391-3W72.009.50239.50
Prem08-DecChelsea v Sunderland3-08.00Skybet7.80-2.5%1.1472-0W68.009.50249.00
Prem08-DecEverton v Fulham2-18.50BlueSQ8.803.5%1.1283-0W78.009.50258.50
Prem08-DecMan Utd v Derby3-07.00Centrebet7.000.0%1.1674-1W60.009.50268.00
Prem08-DecNewcastle v Birmingham2-18.50Sportingbet8.803.5%1.1282-1L78.00(78.00)190.00
Prem08-DecReading v Liverpool0-17.00Betfred7.405.7%1.1561-1*W64.009.50199.50
Prem Bets Placed 145 Units Staked 10,486.00 Units Returned 10,685.50 Profit 199.50 Yield 1.90% Strike Rate 88.97% Average Odds 1.14 Average Stake 72.32
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Re: Laying Correct Scores 4/4 in Europe this evening for 95pts profit on the day.

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
Ger08-DecB Munich v Duisburg3-08.00Canbet8.000.0%1.1430-0W70.009.50103.00
Ger08-DecBochum v Karlsruhe1-17.00Canbet7.405.7%1.1562-2W64.009.50112.50
Ger08-DecFrankfurt v Schalke1-17.00Canbet7.405.7%1.1562-2W64.009.50122.00
Ger08-DecHamburg v Cottbus1-08.00Victor Chandler7.60-5.0%1.1520-0W66.009.50131.50
Ger08-DecHannover v W Bremen1-17.50Canbet7.804.0%1.1474-3W68.009.50141.00
Ger08-DecStuttgart v Wolfsburg1-18.00Canbet8.607.5%1.1323-1W76.009.50150.50
Ita08-DecLazio v Catania1-17.00Canbet7.202.9%1.1612-0W62.009.50160.00
Ita08-DecPalermo v Fiorentina1-16.50Canbet6.804.6%1.1722-0W58.009.50169.50
Spa08-DecOsasuna v Valencia1-17.00Canbet7.202.9%1.1610-0W62.009.50179.00
Spa08-DecAth Bilbao v Real Madrid1-17.00Canbet7.202.9%1.1610-1W62.009.50188.50
Europe Bets Placed 207 Units Staked 15,112.00 Units Returned 15,300.50 Profit 188.50 Yield 1.25% Strike Rate 89.37% Average Odds 1.14 Average Stake 73.00
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Re: Laying Correct Scores Hi Hodgey, Noticed you were 'working late' again. You've put a lot into this and i'm sure there are many that appreciate all the hard work. Please keep it up mate, i am thinking of going live and to start backing (laying) the selections. I reckon this thread could run and run for a long time in profit.

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Hi Hodgey, Noticed you were 'working late' again. You've put a lot into this and i'm sure there are many that appreciate all the hard work. Please keep it up mate, i am thinking of going live and to start backing (laying) the selections. I reckon this thread could run and run for a long time in profit.
That wasn't late - this is late! :lol I thought everyone had got bored with this thread - Cheers mate it's nice to be appreciated. :ok Re going live - I was considering it too from Jan 1st but then there was quite a set back last weekend. However since then it's bounced back quite well in Europe. Here;s the overall stats to yesterday. They are maybe misleading though in that they include the Prem from Aug but Europe only from Nov. Total Bets Placed 352 Units Staked 25,598.00 Units Returned 25,986.00 Profit 388.00 Yield 1.52% Strike Rate 89.20% Average Odds 1.14 Average Stake 72.72 I'll stick up some more analysis after today's games...
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Re: Laying Correct Scores 4 Prem games today:

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
Prem09-DecMiddlesbrough v Arsenal1-29.00Betinternet9.404.4%1.119 84.000.00199.50
Prem09-DecBolton v Wigan1-07.50Centrebet7.40-1.3%1.156 64.000.00199.50
Prem09-DecTottenham v Man City1-17.00Canbet7.202.9%1.161 62.000.00199.50
Prem09-DecBlackburn v West Ham1-17.50Centrebet7.804.0%1.147 68.000.00199.50
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Re: Laying Correct Scores Italian games this arvo:

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
Ita09-DecEmpoli v Cagliari2-19.50Centrebet9.803.2%1.114 88.000.00188.50
Ita09-DecGenoa v Siena2-18.50BlueSq8.601.2%1.132 76.000.00188.50
Ita09-DecInter v Torino2-110.00Coral9.40-6.0%1.119 84.000.00188.50
Ita09-DecJuventus v Atalanta2-19.00Sportingbet8.40-6.7%1.135 74.000.00188.50
Ita09-DecLivorno v Roma1-28.50Sportingbet8.40-1.2%1.135 74.000.00188.50
Ita09-DecUdinese v Sampdoria1-17.00Canbet7.202.9%1.161 62.000.00188.50
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Re: Laying Correct Scores Ok Spain added and the late Italian game too:

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
Ita09-DecEmpoli v Cagliari2-19.50Centrebet9.803.2%1.114 88.000.00188.50
Ita09-DecGenoa v Siena2-18.50BlueSq8.601.2%1.132 76.000.00188.50
Ita09-DecInter v Torino2-110.00Coral9.40-6.0%1.119 84.000.00188.50
Ita09-DecJuventus v Atalanta2-19.00Sportingbet8.40-6.7%1.135 74.000.00188.50
Ita09-DecLivorno v Roma1-28.50Sportingbet8.40-1.2%1.135 74.000.00188.50
Ita09-DecUdinese v Sampdoria1-17.00Canbet7.202.9%1.161 62.000.00188.50
Ger09-DecLeverkusen v H Rostock1-111.00Canbet11.000.0%1.100 100.000.00188.50
Ger09-DecNurnberg v H Berlin1-17.00Canbet7.608.6%1.152 66.000.00188.50
Spa09-DecAlmeria v Valladolid1-16.50Laddies6.804.6%1.172 58.000.00188.50
Spa09-DecLevante v Rec de Huelva2-111.00Hills11.000.0%1.100 100.000.00188.50
Spa09-DecSantander v Mallorca1-17.00Canbet6.80-2.9%1.172 58.000.00188.50
Spa09-DecSevilla v Murcia3-012.00Centrebet11.00-8.3%1.100 100.000.00188.50
Spa09-DecVillarreal v Betis1-18.00Canbet8.000.0%1.143 70.000.00188.50
Spa09-DecZaragoza v Espanyol1-17.00Canbet7.202.9%1.161 62.000.00188.50
Spa09-DecAtl Madrid v Getafe2-18.50Sportingbet8.803.5%1.128 78.000.00188.50
Ita09-DecNapoli v Parma1-17.00Centrebet7.000.0%1.167 60.000.00188.50
Spa09-DecBarcelona v Deportivo3-08.50Victor Chandler8.20-3.5%1.139 72.000.00188.50
Could get hurt today as there are a couple of high odds lays. :\
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Re: Laying Correct Scores Four for four in the Prem. :)

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
Prem09-DecMiddlesbrough v Arsenal1-29.00Betinternet9.404.4%1.1192-1W84.009.50209.00
Prem09-DecBolton v Wigan1-07.50Centrebet7.40-1.3%1.1564-1W64.009.50218.50
Prem09-DecTottenham v Man City1-17.00Canbet7.202.9%1.1612-1W62.009.50228.00
Prem09-DecBlackburn v West Ham1-17.50Centrebet7.804.0%1.1470-1W68.009.50237.50
Prem Bets Placed 149 Units Staked 10,764.00 Units Returned 11,001.50 Profit 237.50 Yield 2.21% Strike Rate 89.26% Average Odds 1.14 Average Stake 72.24
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Re: Laying Correct Scores And a whopping 17 out ouf 17 in Europe! :dude

LeagueDateMatchScoreBetbrainBookieLay OddsDiff %Back OddsResultW/LLiabilityP/(L)Balance
Ita09-DecEmpoli v Cagliari2-19.50Centrebet9.803.2%1.1144-1W88.009.50198.00
Ita09-DecGenoa v Siena2-18.50BlueSq8.601.2%1.1321-3W76.009.50207.50
Ita09-DecInter v Torino2-110.00Coral9.40-6.0%1.1194-0W84.009.50217.00
Ita09-DecJuventus v Atalanta2-19.00Sportingbet8.40-6.7%1.1351-0W74.009.50226.50
Ita09-DecLivorno v Roma1-28.50Sportingbet8.40-1.2%1.1351-1W74.009.50236.00
Ita09-DecUdinese v Sampdoria1-17.00Canbet7.202.9%1.1613-2W62.009.50245.50
Ger09-DecLeverkusen v H Rostock1-111.00Canbet11.000.0%1.1003-0W100.009.50255.00
Ger09-DecNurnberg v H Berlin1-17.00Canbet7.608.6%1.1522-1W66.009.50264.50
Spa09-DecAlmeria v Valladolid1-16.50Laddies6.804.6%1.1721-0W58.009.50274.00
Spa09-DecLevante v Rec de Huelva2-111.00Hills11.000.0%1.1000-2W100.009.50283.50
Spa09-DecSantander v Mallorca1-17.00Canbet6.80-2.9%1.1723-1W58.009.50293.00
Spa09-DecSevilla v Murcia3-012.00Centrebet11.00-8.3%1.1003-1W100.009.50302.50
Spa09-DecVillarreal v Betis1-18.00Canbet8.000.0%1.1430-1W70.009.50312.00
Spa09-DecZaragoza v Espanyol1-17.00Canbet7.202.9%1.1613-3W62.009.50321.50
Spa09-DecAtl Madrid v Getafe2-18.50Sportingbet8.803.5%1.1281-0W78.009.50331.00
Ita09-DecNapoli v Parma1-17.00Centrebet7.000.0%1.1671-0W60.009.50340.50
Spa09-DecBarcelona v Deportivo3-08.50Victor Chandler8.20-3.5%1.1392-1W72.009.50350.00
Europe Bets Placed 224 Units Staked 16,394.00 Units Returned 16,744.00 Profit 350.00 Yield 2.13% Strike Rate 90.18% Average Odds 1.14 Average Stake 73.19 Actually got all 28 this weekend in Europe plus 9/10 in the Prem for 273.50pts profit :dude
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cant argue with 21/21! nice one!
Cheers mate. It's safe to say I was quite pleased with that! Am very tempted to give it a whirl for real now from the New Year.... but then there's a voice in my head that says see what it's like after a whole season. Not sure if I have that much patience though... :\
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Re: Laying Correct Scores Some updated stats:

FixedProgressive% Bank FixedProgressive% Bank FixedProgressive% Bank
ProfitStakingStaking ProfitStakingStaking ProfitStakingStaking
Prem Europe Total
Bets Placed149149149 Bets Placed224224224 Bets Placed373373373
Units Staked10,764.0012,930.0212,322.37 Units Staked16,394.0020,246.1218,011.93 Units Staked27,158.0039,155.3234,781.86
Units Returned11,001.5013,189.3312,554.15 Units Returned16,744.0020,644.6018,322.18 Units Returned27,745.5039,928.8435,385.08
Profit237.50259.31231.78 Profit350.00398.48310.25 Profit587.50773.52603.22
Yield2.21%2.01%1.88% Yield2.13%1.97%1.72% Yield2.16%1.98%1.73%
Strike Rate89.26%89.26%89.26% Strike Rate90.18%90.18%90.18% Strike Rate89.81%89.81%89.81%
Average Odds1.141.141.14 Average Odds1.141.141.14 Average Odds1.141.141.14
Average Stake72.2486.7882.70 Average Stake73.1990.3880.41 Average Stake72.81104.9793.25
So progressive staking is better than fixed, however when it went wrong this staking took it into the red slightly. I think if I were to do this for real I'd probably stick to fixed and then if it were profitable after a season look to review and increase the stake then. Incidentally the Average lay prices are: Prem 8.22 Europe 8.32 Total 8.28
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Re: Laying Correct Scores Europe analysis by Country/Competition:

CLGerItaSpaUEFA
Bets Placed3444475148
Units Staked2,386.003,364.003,320.003,627.003,697.00
Units Returned2,568.003,344.503,207.003,640.503,984.00
Profit182.00(19.50)(113.00)13.50287.00
Yield7.63%-0.58%-3.40%0.37%7.76%
Strike Rate94.12%88.64%85.11%88.24%95.83%
Average Odds1.151.131.151.141.13
Average Stake70.1876.4570.6471.1277.02
All the leagues have redeemed themselves this weekend, but Italy still showing a large loss. Early days in terms of number of bets though. In comparsion the Prem had 61pts profit after 47 matches. The CL & UEFA which I had my doubts about have surpassed all expectations (cue losses tonight!) but again not a meaningful amount of games yet.
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