AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd)

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Friday 1 June 2007
	Home	Draw	Away	bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged.">BPP
Collingwood v Fremantle (10:40 BST)	1.50		2.70	104%	Related markets...- - -Match ResultWinning Margin
Saturday 2 June 2007
	Home	Draw	Away	bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged.">BPP
Melbourne v Adelaide (05:10 BST)	2.80		1.45	105%	Related markets...- - -Match ResultWinning Margin
West Coast v Kangaroos (07:10 BST)	1.27		4.00	104%	Related markets...- - -Match ResultWinning Margin
Richmond v Brisbane (10:10 BST)	1.85		1.95	106%	Related markets...- - -Match ResultWinning Margin
Sydney v Essendon (10:10 BST)	1.33		3.50	104%	Related markets...- - -Match ResultWinning Margin
Sunday 3 June 2007
	Home	Draw	Away	bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged.">BPP
Port Adelaide v Hawthorn (04:10 BST)	1.75		2.07	106%	Related markets...- - -Match ResultWinning Margin
Carlton v Western Bulldogs (05:10 BST)	2.95		1.40	106%	Related markets...- - -Match ResultWinning Margin
St Kilda v Geelong (08:10 BST)	3.30		1.35	105%	Related markets...- - -Match ResultWinning Margin

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Overall Standings
#	Team	P	W	L	D	For	Agt	%	Pts
1	West Coast	9	7	2	0	809	663	122	28
2	Geelong	9	6	3	0	1079	712	151.5	24
3	Adelaide	9	6	3	0	755	673	112.2	24
4	Hawthorn	9	6	3	0	802	715	112.2	24
5	Collingwood	9	6	3	0	860	798	107.8	24
6	Kangaroos	9	6	3	0	912	858	106.3	24
7	Port Adelaide	9	6	3	0	824	785	105	24
8	Sydney	9	5	4	0	794	688	115.4	20
9	Essendon	9	5	4	0	937	869	107.8	20
10	W.Bulldogs	9	5	4	0	859	897	95.76	20
11	Fremantle	9	4	5	0	823	842	97.74	16
12	Brisbane	9	4	5	0	778	823	94.53	16
13	St Kilda	9	4	5	0	691	751	92.01	16
14	Carlton	9	2	7	0	880	1114	78.99	8
15	Melbourne	9	0	9	0	680	968	70.25	0
16	Richmond	9	0	9	0	750	1077	69.64	0

Match Totals
		Quarters				Halves
#	Team	W	L	D	WR%	W	L	D	WR%
1	West Coast	21	13	2	58.33	12	5	1	66.67
2	Geelong	25	10	1	69.44	13	5	0	72.22
3	Adelaide	20	16	0	55.56	11	7	0	61.11
4	Hawthorn	18	18	0	50	10	5	3	55.56
5	Collingwood	19	15	2	52.78	11	6	1	61.11
6	Kangaroos	21	14	1	58.33	10	8	0	55.56
7	Port Adelaide	17	17	2	47.22	9	9	0	50
8	Sydney	18	17	1	50	13	5	0	72.22
9	Essendon	19	17	0	52.78	9	8	1	50
10	W.Bulldogs	13	20	3	36.11	5	12	1	27.78
11	Fremantle	16	19	1	44.44	9	8	1	50
12	Brisbane	17	19	0	47.22	6	12	0	33.33
13	St Kilda	19	16	1	52.78	8	10	0	44.44
14	Carlton	12	24	0	33.33	6	12	0	33.33
15	Melbourne	12	22	2	33.33	3	15	0	16.67
16	Richmond	12	22	2	33.33	5	13	0	27.78

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Quarter Averages
		For				Against
	Team	¼	½	¾	FT	¼	½	¾	FT
1	West Coast	26	22	17	25	20	13	23	17
2	Geelong	34	31	29	26	18	20	16	25
3	Adelaide	23	22	21	17	20	14	23	18
4	Hawthorn	17	20	28	24	19	21	20	20
5	Collingwood	21	25	26	24	25	24	22	18
6	Kangaroos	28	24	24	26	18	24	20	33
7	Port Adelaide	20	23	29	20	26	26	17	19
8	Sydney	26	18	20	25	23	18	20	15
9	Essendon	26	25	25	28	17	27	30	22
10	W.Bulldogs	26	24	22	23	31	22	21	25
11	Fremantle	24	20	24	23	25	18	29	22
12	Brisbane	24	25	18	19	26	20	20	25
13	St Kilda	19	16	23	19	21	17	23	23
14	Carlton	25	25	27	21	30	31	33	30
15	Melbourne	19	15	18	24	28	31	27	22
16	Richmond	22	18	19	24	33	27	29	32

Scoring Statistics
		Avg Score		Avg Margin		Total Score		Round Total
	Team	For	Agt	Win	Lose	High	Low	High	Low
1	West Coast	90	74	31	37	137	64	0	0
2	Geelong	120	79	68	13	222	72	2	0
3	Adelaide	84	75	23	19	110	57	0	1
4	Hawthorn	89	79	24	19	131	44	0	1
5	Collingwood	96	89	21	21	120	66	2	0
6	Kangaroos	101	95	16	14	147	70	1	0
7	Port Adelaide	92	87	25	37	122	60	1	0
8	Sydney	88	76	33	15	118	44	0	0
9	Essendon	104	97	29	19	127	79	0	0
10	W.Bulldogs	95	100	22	37	135	57	0	1
11	Fremantle	91	94	27	25	137	58	1	0
12	Brisbane	86	91	34	36	136	63	1	1
13	St Kilda	77	83	38	42	125	43	0	4
14	Carlton	98	124	10	36	130	39	1	1
15	Melbourne	76	108	0	32	106	57	0	1
16	Richmond	83	120	0	36	100	65	0	0

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Margin Breakdown - Basic
		U 15.5		O 15.5		U 39.5		O 39.5
	Team	W	L	W	L	W	L	W	L
1	West Coast	3	0	4	2	5	2	2	0
2	Geelong	0	1	6	2	2	3	4	0
3	Adelaide	1	1	5	2	6	3	0	0
4	Hawthorn	1	0	5	3	6	3	0	0
5	Collingwood	1	1	5	2	6	3	0	0
6	Kangaroos	1	1	5	2	6	3	0	0
7	Port Adelaide	1	0	5	3	4	2	2	1
8	Sydney	0	1	5	3	3	4	2	0
9	Essendon	2	1	3	3	4	4	1	0
10	W.Bulldogs	1	1	4	3	5	2	0	2
11	Fremantle	1	1	3	4	2	4	2	1
12	Brisbane	1	0	3	5	2	4	2	1
13	St Kilda	0	0	4	5	2	2	2	3
14	Carlton	1	1	1	6	2	4	0	3
15	Melbourne	0	3	0	6	0	5	0	4
16	Richmond	0	2	0	7	0	7	0	2

Margin Breakdown - Detailed
		1-19 pts		20-39 pts		40-59 pts		60+ pts
	Team	W	L	W	L	W	L	W	L
1	West Coast	3	0	2	2	0	0	2	0
2	Geelong	0	2	2	1	2	0	2	0
3	Adelaide	3	1	3	2	0	0	0	0
4	Hawthorn	1	2	5	1	0	0	0	0
5	Collingwood	2	2	4	1	0	0	0	0
6	Kangaroos	4	2	2	1	0	0	0	0
7	Port Adelaide	4	0	0	2	2	1	0	0
8	Sydney	1	3	2	1	2	0	0	0
9	Essendon	2	2	2	2	0	0	1	0
10	W.Bulldogs	2	1	3	1	0	2	0	0
11	Fremantle	2	2	0	2	2	1	0	0
12	Brisbane	1	0	1	4	2	0	0	1
13	St Kilda	0	0	2	2	2	3	0	0
14	Carlton	2	3	0	1	0	1	0	2
15	Melbourne	0	3	0	2	0	3	0	1
16	Richmond	0	4	0	3	0	1	0	1

[TazaD]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) Looks a good week ahead... Went thru all the stats today...can't be bothered talking about them all now!!... ... but really like the look of Adelaide @ 1.50!!...and Dogs 1.40+ Hoping for some lines 'round about...Kangas +26.5, Sydney -26.5, St. Kilda +19.5... ...and got a feeling that Collingwood won't have it all their own way...although depending on tribunal preceedings that may change.

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Roos have won 6 in a row

Great effort, its the best streak in the league at the moment, but the interesting thing is 5 of the 6 wins have been against teams ranked 8th or higher. They are yet to beat any one of substance (apart from Geelong) so this will be a massive test for them which should show us where they are at. Great work again with the table Beejay. Different colour scheme this week looks the goods too :loon

[Beejayville]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) The colour scheme was to mess with Taza's eyes again Ads :rollin Thought it might make things stand out a little and see things we otherwise wouldnt see. Well we would see them, just they wouldn't be colour :lol

[Beejayville]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) Collingwood 1-50 v 2-70 Fremantle The away team is way over the odds for this one. Freo has beaten the Pies in 4 of the last 5 meetings, including the last two at the Mcg and one at Telstra Dome. Freo have in fact won the last 3 meetings between these clubs. At the MCG they have played 4 times with 2 wins each. Early tip: Pies on form, but very wary of Freo Melbourne 2-80 v 1-45 Adelaide Hard for the Demons to win this game. The Crows have won 6 of the last 7 against Melbourne. At the MCG they have played eight times with 4 wins each. Early tip: Adelaide will be too good West Coast 1.27 v Kangaroos 4.00 Eagles have won 6 of the last 7 against the Roos, but interestingly enough, the wins have never been more than 4 goals, and the Roos have always been within range for a win. May be some value for the Roos with Judd and Kerr out. At Subiaco they have played 9 with Eagles 6 wins and Roos 3 Early tip: Probably Eagles, but tough road trip last week, and Roos are a show here at great odds Richmond 1-85 v Brisbane 1-95 Tigers won their last 3 in a row against the Lions and that will give them plenty of confidence going into this match. Prior to that it was the Lions winning 5 in a row. At the Dome they have played twice for one win each. Early tip: I might have to get on board the Tigers bandwagon considering recent form against Lions. Sydney 1-33 v 3-50 Essendon Swans have won 4 of the last five against Essendon and been a long time since the home team have lost to Essendon at home. At SCG played 19 with Swans 10 wins and Bombers 8 and one draw Early tip: Sydney for mine, especially with their ruck and midfield compared to the Bombers. Port Adelaide 1-75 v 2-07 Hawthorn Can see why Port are favourite here as they make a living out of beating the Hawks. Port have won the last 7 meetings, and some of them by big margins. Guess the hawks are going to beat Port one day, getting good value here about an in form side. From 8 games at AAMI the home side have won 6 while Hawks have won 2. Early tip: Tough one but think I will be on the Hawks, they are playing well. Carlton 2-95 v 1-40 Western Bulldogs Doggies have won the last three games between these two and quite easily too, should be the same again. At the Mcg they have played 3 times with Blues 2 wins and Doggies the one. Early tip: Are you kidding? The Doggies will kill this mob! St Kilda 3-30 v 1-35 Geelong The Saints have had the wood a bit on Geelong in recent times, but things have changed now. Saints have won 4 of the last 6 games at the Dome. From 9 meetings at the Dome it is Saints 5 and Cats 4. Early tip: Geelong will massacre the Saints. The Cats will run it out of defence fairly easily, can't imagine Gehrig chasing, can you?

[Crouch Potato]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) Is Judd actually out yet BJ? I have a feeling he's going to get off and will play this week.

[jeffers]

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Would have won the Biggest Loser if it was still on

Just can't give us any credit at all :eyes

[Ashtee]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) Judd appeal upheld. Free to play this weekend ... if selected. ;)

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Judd appeal upheld. Free to play this weekend ... if selected. ;)

Is he still elegible for the Brownlow do you know? Not 100% sure on how the demerit point system works

[Crouch Potato]

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Is he still elegible for the Brownlow do you know? Not 100% sure on how the demerit point system works

Wasn't he cleared though, meaning that there are no demerit points in effect here? Pretty sure he is 100% Brownlow eligible

[Ashtee]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) Pretty sure I heard them say it means he's still eligable. Also something to keep in mind, umpires are under instruction to award votes even if they have reported the player. Many years ago if a player was reported he wasn't awarded votes even though he might later get off.

[koi_saisei]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) Yeh he is eligable. Was cleared meaning no penalty. Also, if he wasn't cleared, the original charge has to be 100points or above for him to be ineligable (meaning a one match ban). Which he would have recieved, even with an early plea.

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Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) Round 10 injury list

Had a knee reconstruction after rupturing his ACL in the preliminary final 2006.Had surgery for a stress fracture of the patella and will miss 12 weeks.Will face a fitness test this week.Has a chronic history of hamstring problems and will face a fitness test this week.Had limited game time and is likely to be in doubt.Severely dislocated his knee and required a full knee reconstruction. Will miss entire 2007 season.Likely to play SANFL this week.Glandulae fever.A chance of returning before the mid-season break.Likely to play SANFL.

Adelaide Crows
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Rhett Biglands	knee ACL	Last season	Next season
Matthew Bode	knee injury	Rnd 6	Indefinite
Brett Burton	knee injury	Rnd 8	Rnd 10
Richard Douglas	hamstring strain	Rnd 8	Rnd 10
Jonathon Griffin	ankle sprain	Rnd 9	Rnd 10
Trent Hentschel	knee ACL	Last season	Next season
David Mackay	hamstring strain	Rnd 9	Rnd 11
Andrew McIntyre	ankle injury	Rnd 6	Rnd 12
John Meesen	knee injury	Pre-season	Rnd 10
Darren Pfeiffer	medical illness	Rnd 9	Indefinite
Mark Ricciuto	back injury	Pre-season	Rnd 10
James Sellar	groin injury	R4 training	Rnd 10
Kurt Tippett	shoulder dislocation	Rnd 8	Next season
Has had a season ending shoulder reconstruction.

Injured playing a reserves practice match, scans afterwards confirmed ACL tearOn a modified training program and may return mid season at the earliest.Has needed a revision ACL reconstruction and will miss 2007 as well.Will face a fitness test this week.Will face a fitness test this week.Only a minor injury but is unlikely to play this week.Hoping to return after the mid season break.Recovering from a leg fracture.

Brisbane Lions
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Daniel Bradshaw	knee ACL	Preseason games	Next season
Anthony Corrie	knee ACL	Last season	Indefinite
Pat Garner	knee ACL	Last season	Next season
Chris Johnson	foot injury	R8 training	Rnd 10
Haydn Kiel	hamstring strain	Rnd 5	Rnd 10
Ashley McGrath	knee MCL	Rnd 9	Rnd 10
Chris Scott	hip cartilage injury	Pre-season	Indefinite
Sam Sheldon	tibial fracture	Rnd 6	Rnd 13
Matt Tyler	hamstring strain	Rnd 8	Rnd 11

Grade 2 strain, likely to return after the mid season break..Severely dislocated his shoulder and has undergone another shoulder reconstruction.Available.Likely to be available.Available.Will miss up to 8 weeks.Stevens has had surgery for a prolapsed disc and ligament damage and will miss the remainder of the season.Has a fracture and will miss 6 weeks.

Carlton Blues
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Eddie Betts	hamstring strain	Rnd 8	Rnd 13
Cameron Cloke	shoulder dislocation	R7 training	Next pre-season
Jake Edwards	foot injury	Rnd 6	Rnd 10
Shaun Grigg	fractured collarbone	Rnd 2	Rnd 12
Shaun Hampson	diagnosis unknown	Rnd 7	Rnd 10
Ryan Jackson	hand fracture	Rnd 5	Rnd 10
Dylan McLaren	knee PCL	Rnd 6	Rnd 15
Nick Stevens	neck disc injury	Rnd 3	Next pre-season
David Teague	wrist injury	Rnd 6	Rnd 13
Simon Wiggins	hamstring strain	Rnd 5	Rnd 10
Available.

Club doctors have advised him to return next season after injurying his neck in a preseason training collision.Unsure of diagnosis or severity. Likely to be available.Has reinjured his hamstring in training and is unlikely to return before the mid season break.Will face a fitness test this week.May return after the mid season break.Injued an MCL and PCL in the VFL and will 12 weeks but will not require surgery.Appears to have a grade 2 hamstring injury. Will face a fitness test this week.Return has been delayed.

Collingwood Magpies
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
John Anthony	neck injury	Pre-season	Next season
Chris Bryan	foot injury	Rnd 8	Rnd 10
Nathan Buckley	hamstring strain	Pre-season	Rnd 12
James Clement	calf strain	Rnd 6	Rnd 10
Chris Dawes	knee injury	Pre-season	Indefinite
Chris Egan	knee MCL	Rnd 8	Rnd 19
Paul Licuria	hamstring strain	Rnd 4	Rnd 10
Ryan Lonie	groin injury	Rnd 2	Rnd 12
Sean Rusling	shoulder dislocation	Pre-season	Indefinite
Has had shoulder reconstruction for instability episode in pre-season

Return date has been delayed.Injured at training, grade 2 injury.Reinjured his groin after missing the ANZAC day match and playing in the VFL on the weekend. May have had a recurrence in rehabilitaiton.Likely to be available.Limped off the training track with a grade 2 MCL.Injured his groin on his return to the VFL and will likely miss a few weeks.Has been diagnosed with a stress fracture.

Essendon Bombers
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Courtenay Dempsey	hamstring strain	Rnd 4	Rnd 11
Scott Gumbleton	hamstring strain	Rnd 5	Rnd 13
Leroy Jetta	groin strain	Rnd 5	Rnd 13
Andrew Lee	shoulder injury	Rnd 7	Rnd 10
Andrew Lovett	knee MCL	R8 training	Rnd 14
Nathan Lovett-Murray	groin strain	Rnd 7	Rnd 12
Jay Neagle	foot stress fracture	Rnd 2	Rnd 14
Andrew Welsh	hamstring strain	Rnd 7	Rnd 10
Has had a recurrence which has been described as just tightness. Likely to be available this week.

Re-injured his hamstring in his return to WAFL and will miss 5 weeks.Injured playing in the WAFL.Club suspension until round 13.Will face a fitness test this week. Unsure whether it is a strain or corkie.Has been placed on the long term injury list as the club is struggling to manage his degenerative condition which has plagued him for two seasons now.Will face a fitness test this week.

Fremantle Dockers
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Andrew Browne	hamstring strain	Rnd 8	Rnd 14
Ryley Dunn	knee injury	Rnd 4	Rnd 13
Jeff Farmer	Suspension	Preseason games	Rnd 13
Des Headland	quadriceps strain	Rnd 9	Rnd 10
Justin Longmuir	knee cartilage damage	Rnd 3	Indefinite
Calib Mourish	ankle sprain	Rnd 9	Rnd 10
Brock O'Brien	hamstring strain	Rnd 8	Rnd 11
Brock O'Brien	hamstring strain	Rnd 8	Rnd 11

A hamstring strain has been confirmed and a 3 week recovery is likely.Will face a fitness test this week.Has a chronic history of soft tissue injuries.Has had an arthroscope and will miss 4-6 weeks.Has returned to training from having a kidney removed in a collision last season.

Geelong Cats
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Paul Chapman	hamstring strain	Rnd 6	Rnd 10
Nathan Djerrkura	quadriceps strain	Rnd 7	Rnd 10
David Johnson	calf strain	Rnd 8	Rnd 12
Steven King	knee meniscal tear	R8 training	Rnd 13
Tom Lonergan	diagnosis unknown	Last season	Indefinite
Henry Playfair	hamstring strain	Rnd 9	Rnd 12
Joel Reynolds	knee ACL	Pre-season	Next season

Will miss the sesaon after undergoing a knee reconstructionHas carried the injury for some time and will return in the second half of the season.Will face a fitness test this week.

Hawthorn Hawks
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Max Bailey	knee ACL	Pre-season	Next season
Tim Clarke	achilles tendonitis	Rnd 2	Rnd 16
Ben Dixon	knee injury	Rnd 8	Rnd 10
Mark Williams	knee meniscal tear	R5 training	Rnd 16
Has had an arthroscope for a meniscal tear and will miss up to 12 weeks.

Thumb injury.Recovering from a last 2006 season reconstructionRetired, reported to be due to depression.Injured in the VFL.A late withdrawal from round 8 with an illness. Will miss a further match suggesting he may have an injury.Ruptured his ACL and MCL in the final practice match of 2007.Available.Will face a fitness test this week.

Kangaroos
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Leigh Adams	hand injury	Rnd 9	Rnd 14
Leigh Harding	knee ACL	Last season	Rnd 13
Jonathan Hay	medical illness	Pre-season	Retired
Daniel McConnell	shoulder dislocation	Rnd 8	Rnd 19
Brad Moran	medical illness	R8 training	Rnd 10
Nathan Thompson	knee ACL	Preseason games	Next season
David Trotter	hamstring strain	Rnd 6	Rnd 10
Shannon Watt	hamstring strain	Rnd 9	Rnd 10
Daniel Wells	knee MCL	Rnd 7	Rnd 13
A grade 2 strain and will likely miss 4-6 weeks.

Has had an arthroscope for a complicated meniscal injury.Was a late withdrawal with a hamstring injury. Will face a fitness test this week.Has a fractured thumb and has undergone surgery.Has been suspended from the club for failing to attend training sessions.Available.Has been troubled by groin problems since having surgery last year to correct osteitis pubis.Club based suspension for being unable to attend a match due to alcohol.Late withdrawal with a back injury. Has been plagued by back related hamstring injuries this season and it could possibly be a recurrence.May possibly miss further matches with hamstring tightness.Will face a fitness test this week.

Melbourne Demons
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Clint Bartram	knee meniscal tear	R2 training	Rnd 12
Matthew Bate	hamstring strain	R9 training	Rnd 10
Ryan Ferguson	hand fracture	Rnd 8	Rnd 13
Daniel Hayes	Suspension	Pre-season	Indefinite
Mark Jamar	hamstring strain	Rnd 6	Rnd 10
Brent Moloney	groin injury	Rnd 7	Rnd 11
Byron Pickett	Suspension	Rnd 7	Rnd 13
Jared Rivers	back injury	R7 training	Rnd 11
Colin Sylvia	hamstring strain	Rnd 8	Rnd 10
Isaac Weetra	wrist injury	Rnd 5	Rnd 12
Matthew Whelan	foot injury	Rnd 8	Rnd 10
Adem Yze	groin strain	R9 training	Rnd 12
Was a late withdrawal from round 9 after missing training late in the week. Will miss a few more weeks.

Aggravated an ankle injury playing on the hard SCG and will miss a few weeks.Should return after the mid-season break.ll likely have surgery to plate a fractured collarbone.

Port Adelaide Power
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Dean Brogan	ankle injury	Rnd 8	Rnd 11
Troy Chaplin	foot stress fracture	Rnd 7	Rnd 13
Daniel Motlop	fractured collarbone	Rnd 9	Rnd 15
Michael Wilson	pectoral tendon tear	Rnd 5	Rnd 11
Reported as a torn pectoral muscle. Will face a fitness test this week.

Will play 40 minutes in VFL reserves this week.Reinjured his knee and faces furtehr reconstructive surgery and will miss the entire season.Has retired as Richmond promote a youth policy.Still recovering from a hip injury but will face an additional 3 weeks on the sidelines for a club imposed suspension when he is available.Available.A late withdrawl with back tightness from round 8. Will face a fitness test this week.An operation revealed problems with scar tissue and he will miss the first half of the season.Dislocated a previously injured shoulder. Will likely have surgery at the end of the season. Will face a fitness test this week.

Richmond Tigers
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Patrick Bowden	corked hip	Rnd 7	Rnd 11
Nathan Brown	shin injury	Pre-season	Rnd 10
Mark Coughlan	knee ACL	Last season	Next pre-season
Darren Gaspar	diagnosis unknown	Rnd 5	Retired
Ray Hall	Suspension	Pre-season	Indefinite
Brent Hartigan	foot injury	Rnd 4	Rnd 10
Chris Hyde	back injury	R8 training	Rnd 10
Trent Knobel	ankle injury	Rnd 1	Rnd 11
Carl Peterson	osteitis pubis	Pre-season	Rnd 11
Dean Polo	shoulder dislocation	Rnd 8	Rnd 10
Troy Simmonds	ankle sprain	Rnd 6	Rnd 12
Return date has been delayed.

Has been placed on the long term injury list.Will face a fitness test this week.A late withdrawal from round 8.A chance to return before the mid-season break.Has ruptured an anterior cruciate ligament and will undergo a knee reconstruction.A late withdrawal from round 8. Will face a fitness test this week.Has had further surgery after more damage was uncovered. Unclear when Hamill will return to competition.Looks to have suffered a significant hamstring injury and at his age and with his history of injury is unlikely to return before the mid-season break.Returned from injury and injured his calf, meaning he could miss 3 weeks.X-rays revealed a fracture collar bone and he will return after the mid season break.Is not recovering as quick as first hoped and looks unlikely to play before the split round.Fractured jaw.

St. Kilda Saints
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Jarryd Allen	elbow dislocation	Rnd 1	Rnd 14
Raphael Clarke	back injury	Rnd 9	Rnd 10
Xavier Clarke	calf strain	R8 training	Rnd 11
Michael Gardiner	foot injury	Rnd 3	Rnd 11
Brendon Goddard	knee ACL	Rnd 7	Next pre-season
Jason Gram	hamstring strain	R8 training	Rnd 10
Aaron Hamill	knee PCL	Off-season	Indefinite
Robert Harvey	hamstring strain	Rnd 9	Rnd 13
Max Hudghton	calf strain	Rnd 8	Rnd 11
Clinton Jones	fractured collarbone	Rnd 7	Rnd 13
Matt Maguire	foot stress fracture	Rnd 1	Rnd 13
Leigh Montagna	fractured jaw	Rnd 8	Rnd 13
Andrew Thompson	knee meniscal tear	Rnd 5	Rnd 11
Will have an arthroscope and is likely to miss 4-6 weeks.

Will face a fitness test this week.Appeared to strain a hamstring. Very unlikely to play this week.A late withdrawal from round 9 and is in doubt this week.Will face a fitness test this week.A late withdrawal with a virus which hospitalised him. Will face a fitness test this week.

Sydney Swans
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Luke Brennan	corked hip	Rnd 9	Rnd 10
Jared Crouch	hamstring strain	Rnd 9	Rnd 10
Nick Davis	hamstring strain	Rnd 8	Rnd 10
Stephen Doyle	knee injury	Rnd 9	Rnd 10
Tadhg Kennelly	medical illness	Rnd 8	Rnd 10
Daniel O'Keefe	hamstring strain	Rnd 6	Rnd 11

Likely to be in doubt.Eagles have stood him down indefinitely until he is clear from reported substance abuse.Has had an arthroscope for a meniscal injury that was originally sustained earlier in the seaosn.Will have surgery and is expected to miss 8 weeks.Suspended for 2 weeks at the AFL tribunal.Severely dislocated his shoulder in a preseason intraclub match and has had surgery to repair the damage.Has a tendon injury after hurting it on cut glass.Will likely miss 6 weeks.

West Coast Eagles
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Daniel Chick	calf strain	Rnd 8	Rnd 10
Ben Cousins	medical illness	Pre-season	Indefinite
Andrew Embley	knee meniscal tear	Rnd 5	Rnd 13
Jaymie Graham	knee MCL	Rnd 6	Rnd 12
Ashley Hansen	ruptured finger tendon	Rnd 9	Rnd 16
Daniel Kerr	Suspension	Rnd 8	Rnd 11
Mark Nicoski	shoulder dislocation	Pre-season	Rnd 12
Ben Sharp	ruptured finger tendon	Rnd 5	Rnd 13
Matthew Spangher	fractured collarbone	Rnd 5	Rnd 11
Ashley Thornton	knee ACL	Pre-season	Next season
Sufferred a serious knee injury in an intra-club match.

Has had surgery performed to remove bone spurs from his pubic symphysis for a groin injury that had had been troubling him in the preseason. Unlikely to return before the mid season break.Injured a hamstring at training and is in doubt this week.Unsure of diagnosis.Was named for round 9 but was a late withdrawal.Has been left out of round 9. If it is a strain he could possibily miss another 1-2 matches.Injury has been confirmed as a neck injury resulting from a collision in round 1. Bulddogs' aren't prepared to take a risk and a return is indefinite.

Western Bulldogs
Player	Injury	Onset	Estimated Return
Chris Grant	groin strain	Preseason games	Rnd 13
Ryan Griffen	hamstring strain	R9 training	Rnd 10
Damien McCormack	knee injury	Rnd 2	Rnd 11
Andrew McDougall	thigh injury	Rnd 6	Rnd 10
Jordon McMahon	thigh injury	R9 training	Rnd 10
Brett Montgomery	neck injury	Rnd 1	Indefinite
Robert Murphy	hamstring strain	Rnd 6	Rnd 10
Injured the hamstring on the same side as the knee he had reconstructed. Will likely miss 2-3 matches.

[Beejayville]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) Think Brent Harvey got a week Ash, so there goes your Brownlow bet, he was flying too...

[TazaD]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) No he didn't. Found guilty of striking (or rough play or something!), but came to less than 100 points. Guilty but no suspension = still Brownlow eligible. (I only picked him up in my fantasy team last week, so I've been keeping pretty close tabs! lol)

[Ashtee]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) Yeah, think he just got 60 points. Hawks again this week. Virtually full strength these days. Port seem in a trough at present, despite couple good oponents. Brogan if doesn't play; 0-7 without him last year. Missed last week but won three without him this year - Coll (wet), Saints (junk), Melb (junk). They have been generally less injury affected this year though. Anyway, just think Hawks get Port at a good time and the fact Port lost to two good teams helps the price. What do you think?

[jeffers]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) This has the look of a close one to me. For a start, all nine of Collingwood's games so far this season have been won or lost by under 39.5. Fremantle are 6 from 9 under 39.5. So that's a combined total of 15 from 18. The teams cannot be seperated in their last twelve meetings, and Freo have won the last three. Even at the MCG it's 2-2 from their last four. Freo really need a win here, and Tarrant might just kick several back against his old team-mates. For this reason I'm going to stake the following: Fremantle Under 39.5 @ 3.10 (5.40pts) Collingwood Under 39.5 @ 2.20 (4.60pts) If Freo win, it's +6.74; if Collingwood win it's +0.12 :loon

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Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd)

This has the look of a close one to me. For a start, all nine of Collingwood's games so far this season have been won or lost by under 39.5. Fremantle are 6 from 9 under 39.5. So that's a combined total of 15 from 18. The teams cannot be seperated in their last twelve meetings, and Freo have won the last three. Even at the MCG it's 2-2 from their last four. Freo really need a win here, and Tarrant might just kick several back against his old team-mates. For this reason I'm going to stake the following: Fremantle Under 39.5 @ 3.10 (5.40pts) Collingwood Under 39.5 @ 2.20 (4.60pts) If Freo win, it's +6.74; if Collingwood win it's +0.12 :loon

Great work Jeffers. Agree with all that actually mate and if the weather patterns of the last few days are any guide, then this match will be played in very wet, slippery and almost freezing conditions. Will be very hard to see either side posting a big score in these conditions so your betting methods for this match should be a winning formula :ok Centrebet offer an Under/Over margin for 24.5 points also and have Collingood $3.60 for under and Freo $4.00 so that could even be another option for extra value

[vagabund]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) (not relevant to AFL)

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Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd)

ads25, Mate - I replied to your email - seems it's in your junk folder again. Sorry guys - I don't have PM facility. I will delete this soon.

Cheers mate, just found it. To send/receive PM's you need to have a minimum of 50 posts :ok

[jeffers]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd)

Centrebet offer an Under/Over margin for 24.5 points also and have Collingood $3.60 for under and Freo $4.00 so that could even be another option for extra value

Yeah could be worth a small bet that one, could be a goal either way this match I think. :ok

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[TazaD]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) Tend to agree, Jeffers... ...I've been very tempted to take Freo +15.5...but only if Clement doesn't play (which I now think he will)... ...Just not sure how Collingwood stop Pav and Taz without him... ...but either way, the stats are interesting reading...Both teams reasonably bad at clearances and contested ball, so no advantage either way in the wet... ...but it hasn't hurt COllingwood at all. Last 5 games they av. -6 clearances a game, but +7 I50's! Still, I don't think they can give more than 2 goals. head to heads is also interesting...Freo by 15 as +18.5 'dogs last year at MCG...with remarkably similar road stats to this season. In fact Freo won 8 of last 10 ats...so they do match up well. You can't fault Freo's MCG record...won 7 of last 9 there! 2 over COlilngwood, and Melbourne this season. Still not totally convinced about the 'Pies...beaten Kanga's in the luckiest win ever! Richmond, Ess, Carlton, Brisbane...the win @ Adelaide is the stand out, but Essendon did that too, so how well are the Crows going atm?? Of course, Freo's form line doesn't read much (any?!) better. Really tough game to judge. Might tip Freo purely for the tipping value...but hard to be convinced either way. (Good luck Jeffers!) Crows win (1.47) for me. All Melbourne's "close" 3 weeks (out of 4) have done is made the Crows closer to 1.50 than 1.20 here! Last week's result was purely due to Kangaroos bad conversion. 42-56 I50's, 25-36 clearances, 6 less shots... So here we have the team that enters 50 the least (Melbourne) @ just 44 times a game!!...up against the team with the best defense (Adelaide) allowing a goal every 4.66 entries!! Melbuorne haven't had more than 26 shots all year as it is...Crows allow just 23...very tough to see them cracking 70 points here...*** ...other end, they have allowed 29 shots in all but 2 games (av. 31)..and while the Crows are hardly a team to set you alight, they have (quietly?) had 30, 29, 30 shots in their last 3. Crows have won 6 out of last 7 meetings, and their only game this year at the 'G. Can't trust them to kick a big enough score to cover a spread, but the win looks very likely. Kanga's +25.5. Simply, despite all the show, WC have won just 3 games by more than this so far...Freo, Carlton, Melbourne! They absolutely choked melbourne 2 weeks ago, and have lost 2 of the last 3 (admittedly in tough venues)...but the loss of Kerr is a tough one to overcome...Hanson out too is a big loss. Quite the opposite to Melbourne, the Kanga's av. the second MOST I'50's in the comp (behind Geelong)...more than the Eagles... ...and as I keep saying, they are scoring machines...had 29+ shots in all but one game. Kanga's lost in Perth last year by 26, and are going much better now..and before that the Eagles hadn't won any of the previous 5 by more than 24. Tipping the Kangas to win...will be surprised if they get blown away. Richmond/Brisbane? No thanks! Richmond's stats are almost identical to Brisbane on the road. Richmond won last 3...last year at Dome by 82...but it wasn't really the flogging it makes out... 53-60 I50's...but Richmond scored @ 1.62 entries to 2.65...why? Well, Stafford and Simmonds kicked 2 each (Patrick Bowden 2)...Richo 6, so they clearly stretched the Brisbane backline... won't be as easy this gamewith far less fire-power. Brisbane were without Brown...Bradshaw kicked 3 from just 8 kicks...you'd expect Brown and Clarke to produce better numbers this time around. 2 terrible defenses, should be some points scored...unless Richmond go the flood which served Essendon so well v. Brisbane when Brown was double/tripple teamed all night. Not sure it will happen. No real idea who will win...Brisbane did beat Carlton at the dome this year..are Richmond any better? Swans -23.5. Won the corresponding game at the SCG last year by 43. No Lloyd, but will it matter against this D? Sydney allow just 42 I50's a game at home...(+9), 20 shots!..and have won each of their last 6 at home by 27 or more!! (Winning all ats) Essendon allow 57! (Most in AFL by a way!) (-6). Sydney should be able to bottle Essendon up, and have far too many chances to score themselves. Port/Hawks stats don't tell me much...although we've seen in the 4 weeks that the Port D is nowhere near as good as it first seemed!! Hawthorn defense does appear to be very solid, allowing just 23 shots/game at over 2 entries per... History is a worry, Port won last 7 meetings by 40, 57, 4 (MCG), 81, 52, 118 and 96 at home last season! ...again (I do seem to say this every week for the Hawks!!)...I'd prefer to have them +15ish... (1.40 for +24.5?) *** 7.00 for the lowest round score looks value.

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Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) St Kilda have 6 top line players returning this week. Anyone fancy them to cover their line of 23.5 points against the Cats?

[Ashtee]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) Hawks have lost last seven to Port, but again this is just something that helps the Hawthorn price IMO. They don't exist at opposite ends of ladder this time. Also Port are talking it up, something I like to oppose. Brogan still out. Hawthorn value bet of the round IMV - 2.20 and drifting, which I wouldn't be concerned about.

[TazaD]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd)

St Kilda have 6 top line players returning this week. Anyone fancy them to cover their line of 23.5 points against the Cats?

Getting there Ads!! :lol Doggies win @ 1.40 Too simplistic to say they play the Blues?! Probably...but Doggies seem same old team... ...lose against teams that bottle them up and allow few scoring chances. Carlton have worst defense in the AFL, allowing 33 shots @ 1.68 per entry! Despite some people's concerns, Dogs record at MCG is very good, won 5 of last 6 and topped 100 in all the wins (loss to Crows)...had 30 shots and scored 110 v. Hawthorn who are FAR superior defensively (and overall, let's be fair!) to Carlton. Dogs won last 3 meetings by 30, 46 and 25. McMahon back in, Griffen better than 50/50... ...meh, they play the Blues. St. Kilda +25.5. Geelong stats all overblown by the Richmond game, but still not totally sold. St. Kilda a differebt team in the dome...very good defensively, haven't allowed 100 in their last 9 there!...and allow just 4 I50's a game there this year. Geelong have beaten Carlton and Richmond there...but lost to the Dogs in rd. 1, scoring just 93. 5-4 to Geelong last 9 meetings, but no game has been more than 19 points Geelong's way 2 outdoor losses have undervalued the Saints...esp. last week where they had +3 I50's, and just 1 less shot, despite their terrible scoring record on the road. Remember they beat Sydney convincingly at the dome just 3 weeks ago. More points than I was expecting, and will gladly take the 4 goals +. Good luck to everyone this week...even those on the opposite as me :$ ....and also to those who's first "fresh new idea" about our great game was to take out a Carlton membership! :lol :lol :ok

[Ashtee]

Re: AFL Football - Round 10 (June 1st - 3rd) Collingwood on a 6 x 6 travelling back from Brisbane - could take the edge off. Freo with the full seven day rest.