Falbrav Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables Totally agree Stewartd14. Just explaining my ignorance that's all bro.:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted June 6, 2007 Author Share Posted June 6, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables Totally agree Stewartd14. Just explaining my ignorance that's all bro.:ok Not ignorant at all mate, just a mis-understanding. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted June 14, 2007 Author Share Posted June 14, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables YIKES ........ Is it that long since the last update!!!!!!!!! Will update again tonight. Thanks for your patience. :ok :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted June 14, 2007 Author Share Posted June 14, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables 5/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakDannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500Aliando151387%+79.334 6/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakDannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500Falbrav645180%+86.171 7/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakFalbrav655280%+96.172DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted June 14, 2007 Author Share Posted June 14, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables 08/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked553971%+98.489HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 09/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked564071%+108.480DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 10/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked564071%+108.480DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted June 14, 2007 Author Share Posted June 14, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables Rest will be updated tomorrow. We see a new leader at the top of the table in Wicked. Well done mate :clap :clap :clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables Well done Wicked, very well done mate! I seem to have the Naps and Lays thread mixed up just lately!! I'll be back, just testing something out Cheers Stewart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicked Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables Thanks for the credit guys. Unfortunately the winning run came to an end the other day, but I'm going to try and get up there again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted June 21, 2007 Author Share Posted June 21, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables 11/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked564071%+108.4810HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 12/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked574172%+118.4811HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 13/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked574172%+118.4811HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 14/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked584272%+128.4812HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 15/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrikeRateP/LWinning streakWicked584272%+128.4812HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 16/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked594373%+138.4813HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 17/7/07 Rest to come. :ok :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wicked Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables That's a good boost to the morale Stewart & thanks for the update. However, it went wrong on Saturday 9th when Dubai Dynamo did the dirty on me at odds of 4.5. Was not very clever to mess with 2yo maidens with little to go on. Been OK since then I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted July 1, 2007 Author Share Posted July 1, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables That's a good boost to the morale Stewart & thanks for the update. However, it went wrong on Saturday 9th when Dubai Dynamo did the dirty on me at odds of 4.5. Was not very clever to mess with 2yo maidens with little to go on. Been OK since then I think. Cheers, will sort that tonight then mate. :ok :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted July 1, 2007 Author Share Posted July 1, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables Ok, before I start updating the tables, you will see there are some errors above with Wickeds P/L and Winning Streak. I will not be correcting those tables but the corrections ARE incorporated into the new tables. :ok :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted July 1, 2007 Author Share Posted July 1, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables 21/06/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked614574%+118.485HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 22/06/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked614574%+128.486HOT!Mighty Magyar272074%+100.367HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003 23/06/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked614574%+128.486HOT!Mighty Magyar272074%+100.367HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003 24/06/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked614574%+128.486HOT!Mighty Magyar272074%+100.367HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003 25/06/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked624674%+138.487HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted July 1, 2007 Author Share Posted July 1, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables 26/06/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked634775%+148.488HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 27/07/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked634775%+148.488HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 REST WILL FOLLOW TOMORROW. :ok :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted July 11, 2007 Author Share Posted July 11, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables I am going to set aside a couple of hours tomorrow morning/evening to update these. Apologies for the delay but they will be with you by the end of tomorrow. :ok :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted July 12, 2007 Author Share Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables 28/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked644875%+158.489HOT!DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 29/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked654874%+125.150DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 30/6/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked654874%+125.150DannyCash141393%+95.003Stewartd14453578%+92.500 01/07/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked654874%+125.150Stewartd14463678%+102.501DannyCash141393%+95.003 02/07/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked654874%+125.150Stewartd14463678%+102.501DannyCash141393%+95.003 03/07/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked654874%+125.150Stewartd14463678%+102.501DannyCash141393%+95.003 04/07/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked664974%+135.151Stewartd14463678%+102.501DannyCash141393%+95.003 05/07/07 Wicked675075%+145.152DannyCash151493%+105.004Stewartd14463678%+102.501 Rest are on their way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted July 12, 2007 Author Share Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables 06/07/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked675075%+145.152DannyCash151493%+105.004Stewartd14463678%+102.501 07/07/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked685175%+155.153Mighty Magyar322475%+110.364Stewartd14463678%+102.501 08/07/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked685175%+155.153Mighty Magyar322475%+110.364Stewartd14463678%+102.501 09/07/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked685175%+155.153Mighty Magyar322475%+110.364Stewartd14463678%+102.501 10/07/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked685175%+155.153Mighty Magyar322475%+110.364Stewartd14463678%+102.50 11/07/07 PunterLaysWinning laysStrike rateP/LWinning streakWicked695174%+125.150Mighty Magyar322475%+110.364Stewartd14463678%+102.501 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables Nice work catching up stewart. Am I right in assuming you only ever put top 3 on pl now mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stewartd14 Posted July 12, 2007 Author Share Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables Nice work catching up stewart. Am I right in assuming you only ever put top 3 on pl now mate? Cheers No, when I am behind, I will just post the Top 3 for the previous days. Then when I get to the present day, I will post the full table. It should be there now and I am sure I will be able to update these more frequently to avoid dissapointment. P.S. Excellent work from you getting 4/4 and everyone else the past few weeks. There have been some great results. :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables Thanks mate. Was just interested in seeing the full table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables Objection!! ~ No wasting my breath;) Stewart can you just clarify the ruling on the SP's please and whats acceptable and whats disallowed. As you know recently i have picked two horses, both were 4/1 forecast price in the Racing Post the night before racing, one won at 6/1 and the other lost at 16/1, the winner gets counted and the loser doesnt? What is the cut off point you go by as the origional rules stated 5/1 maximum lay price. I know we dont want guys laying 33/1 rags but if they are forecast much shorter then what can we do about it? Not bothered either way but it would be nice to know how you decide whats ok and whats not. Thanks mate for the work put in, very much appreciated:ok PS: Its a long way back from there now:\ I will return (not) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falbrav Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables Excuse me for butting in, but I have an idea that 'should' work here. When posting a lay, I think we should display the 'F/cast price i:e The Racing Post price, plus the price on 'Betfair' at the time of posting. Then it should make things clearer. If in the instance of a big drift, i:e if laying at an origional 4/1 and it drifts to 16/1, then it should still count as a lay, and a bloody good lay as of laying at value ( not fair to be penalised as a no bet for good judgement!! ). If this lay then goes and wins, then you should lose 16 points. If on the other hand it gets backed from 4/1 into Evens, then goes and win, you should lose 1 point. I think as long as you lay at an original 5/1 (6.0) or under at the time of posting at both sp and betfair prices, then no matter what the price ends up it should count. Just my thoughts, and thanks again Stewart for the time and effort you put in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables Totally agree Falbrav, it works both ways some you win some you lose. Just need a ruling as i always look for something i think will drift to get value, the SP's are nowhere near a true reflection of the actual lay. Waste of time posting if I'm not sure if its going to count. I suppose the problem is if some guys dont put the betfair price up then does that get kicked out, its a difficult one but i think a decision needs to be made. At the end of the day its a bit of fun and the admin is hard enough anyway for stewart without making it worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falbrav Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables I think it's fair to make a rule that states you must post The racing Post price, and the Betfair price at the time of posting. As if the RP price is 3/1 and on Betfair it's drifted out to 10/1, then it's obviously unfancied by somebody and therefore will attract the sheep that follow. 'If' we erase that from happening, then the cream will always rise to the top as it will be all to our own judgement, then if they drift, it's one of those things. That's what I feel anyhow, but I'm happy to go along with anything that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share Posted July 13, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables Ok, I have just realised a huge problem in that the rules are not stickied to the top of the forum. I will ask Zulu if he can sort that out when he has a spare moment. When the thread originally started, I tried to make it easier for posters by not asking them to quote the Betfair price. I did this because not anyone could access the Betfair price. For this reason, I asked people to quote the forecast price. I then went on to say that as long as you stated the forecast price, and that was within the price range, then I would count the lay. This would ensure that the layers intentions were correct but they could obviously not do anything about an unexpected drift. Another problem with posting the Betfair price is for those, like me, that need to post the night before. The lay prices are often very un-realistic at this time. I will add to this in 1/2 an hour and discuss it with everyone but I need to go out at the moment. Stewart :ok :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share Posted July 13, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables I dont know what happened with your lays Billy. Because I was so far behind, I was rushing them a wee bit so wouldnt be surprised if I didnt count one when you quoted the price. Basically, do you think it would work if I asked you to quote the Betfair price at time of posting if possible OR quote the forecast price and providing the forecast is within the price range I will count the lay. Does anyone have any better ideas, should I just set an SP price and not count anything above it :ok :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables Stewart, i too post many of my selections the night before and i agree that is near impossible to get a ralistic lay market. I suppose if we insist they quote the RP forecast and its 5/1 or below or the Betfair price then its gets counted nomatter what the SP becomes. I have not always included the RP price because i wasnt aware we had to but will do so in the future, my apologies for that but would never try to lay a 16/1 shot believe me, been there, done that! Thanks mate for replying and the hard work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartd14 Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share Posted July 13, 2007 Re: Lay Of The Day - Latest tables OK, I have PM'd zulu the amended rules and they should make it clear about everything. Zulu is going to try and get it up tomorrow. :ok :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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