Datapunter Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System can't be bothered to reply, what a surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted June 27, 2006 Author Share Posted June 27, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System datapunter ask a sensible question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datapunter Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System no problem , i'll just repeat myself, see post nr 174, nr 194 and last but not least nr 206 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmphill Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System datapunter ask a sensible questionAre you being deliberatly awkward?:unsure I think you'll find the guy has asked sensible questions and what Erik doesn't know about this field isn't worth typing about. Give the guy the respect he deserves at least please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted June 27, 2006 Author Share Posted June 27, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System what a joke he knows naff all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datapunter Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System what a joke he knows naff all that may very well be the case, but i'd still like an answer to my questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System what a joke he knows naff all i think hes got a fair idea of who is here for the benfit of the PL community and who is here for the benefits of themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish_Bash_Bosh Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System SELECTION: When the chance of a win is 50% or more and its rating is 70% or more it is chosen for the next stage. VALUE: Work out he avr odds of the big 5 scores and this is the avr price used to work out its value Multiply these new odds by the orginal chance of winning to give a logical bet, this needs to be at least 130% (i.e 66% x 2.1) for a team with a rating of 70% or 120% for a team with a rating of 80% etc... then after this selection process is completed the BIG 5 System kicks in I understand how you have achieved your average odds, but to achieve your logical bet, which is the fundamental part of making your selection, you need to know both the rating and the chance of winning. Please excuse my ignorance but how do you arrive at these percentages? Thanks in advanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderfoot Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System ........... and what Erik doesn't know about this field isn't worth typing about. Totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System hello all restarting the big 5 theory after the world cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System dinamo minsk Rating 75% chance Of Win 56% avr Odds 2.54 logical 142% [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] 3-0@19 3-1@19 Total Stake 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System tampere Rating 74% chance Of Win 67% avr Odds 2 logical 134% [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] 3-0@12 3-1@14 Total Stake 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datapunter Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System rockshark, i've told you before, if you want a link to your site in your signature get permission from PL's owner Paul Ross first. He can be reached at team (@) punterslounge.com And there are a few questions still unanswered ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System dinamo minsk Rating 75% chance Of Win 56% avr Odds 2.54 logical 142% [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]WRONG 3-0@19WRONG 3-1@19WRONG 0-0 0 Total Stake 100 staked=7600 return=8122 p/l=522 yield=7% WON=39 LOST=37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System tampere Rating 74% chance Of Win 67% avr Odds 2 logical 134% [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] 3-0@12WRONG 3-1@14 CORRECT 3-1 280 Total Stake 100 staked=7700 return=8402 p/l=702 yield=9% WON=40 LOST=37 __________________ 'punters lounge rocks' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System STRASBORG Rating 72% chance Of Win 52% avr Odds 2.63 logical 134% 1-0@7 [email protected] [email protected] 3-0@20 3-1@21 Total Stake 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmphill Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System rockshark, i've told you before, if you want a link to your site in your signature get permission from PL's owner Paul Ross first. He can be reached at team (@) punterslounge.com And there are a few questions still unanswered ?Erik, you'll be lucky to get anything out of him. He seems to ignore any plausible questions posed.:spank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datapunter Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System Aye David, i would have been quite surprised to have gotten anything. I know we have a policy that at Punters Lounge everyone should be able to post. In fact i'll be the first to support or defend that. I guess tolerating these would-be tipsters until they actually mention their subscription service is the price we pay. Wonder how long it will take him. Yes people, apparantly there now is a subscription service, prepare to be spammed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted July 28, 2006 Author Share Posted July 28, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System lol chill, im one of the good guys! sit back enjoy the ride. seriously i lost track of the questions ask me again and will be glad to answer any! ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish_Bash_Bosh Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System SELECTION: When the chance of a win is 50% or more and its rating is 70% or more it is chosen for the next stage. VALUE: Work out he avr odds of the big 5 scores and this is the avr price used to work out its value Multiply these new odds by the orginal chance of winning to give a logical bet, this needs to be at least 130% (i.e 66% x 2.1) for a team with a rating of 70% or 120% for a team with a rating of 80% etc... then after this selection process is completed the BIG 5 System kicks in I understand how you have achieved your average odds, but to achieve your logical bet, which is the fundamental part of making your selection, you need to know both the rating and the chance of winning. Please excuse my ignorance but how do you arrive at these percentages? Thanks in advanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datapunter Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System Great to see you doing well here, can hardly wait to see the performance in the regular soccer season. I am however unclear on how the selection process works; Is this based on the available odds ? I.e. if the odds are above 2.00 ? How do you determine this rating ? In other words the odds on the correct scores needs to be 30% higher than the odds for a straight win. Correct ? is this or is this not advertising a subscription based service I'll add one to that, you sound nice, are you the same person that started this thread ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted July 31, 2006 Author Share Posted July 31, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System STRASBORG Rating 72% chance Of Win 52% avr Odds 2.63 logical 134% 1-0@7WRONG [email protected] [email protected] 3-0@20WRONG 3-1@21WRONG 0 Total Stake 100 staked=7800 return=8402 p/l=602 yield=7% WON=40 LOST=38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted July 31, 2006 Author Share Posted July 31, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System HELSINKI Rating 83% chance Of Win 66% avr Odds 2.016 logical 134% [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] 3-0@11 3-1@13 Total Stake 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted July 31, 2006 Author Share Posted July 31, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System MALMO Rating 87% chance Of Win 71% avr Odds 1.968 logical 139% [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] 3-0@10 [email protected] Total Stake 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted July 31, 2006 Author Share Posted July 31, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System Great to see you doing well here, can hardly wait to see the performance in the regular soccer season. I am however unclear on how the selection process works; Quote: When the chance of a win is 50% or more Is this based on the available odds ? YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted July 31, 2006 Author Share Posted July 31, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System How do you determine this rating ? by removing the factor of a draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted July 31, 2006 Author Share Posted July 31, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System In other words the odds on the correct scores needs to be 30% higher than the odds for a straight win. Correct ? the logical factor added to the rating must be 200% or above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderfoot Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System Love to see some 'numbers' and the actual calculations/workings on this!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinhofap Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System Yes, I am also having some problems understanding the calculations, although it appears to be a good system. Would love to see a step by step calculation of one game. Good Luck Pinho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_rockshark Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 Re: The Big 5 System HELSINKI Rating 83% chance Of Win 66% avr Odds 2.016 logical 134% >[email protected]WRONG [email protected] [email protected] 3-0@11WRONG 3-1@13WRONG 5-0 0 Total Stake 100 staked=7900 return=8402 p/l=502 yield=6% WON=40 LOST=39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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