SensiSteve Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Top Tips yesterday. what is it with you and Super Mondays? Maybe you should just do Mondays?. I followed you so must of lost my jinx. I ended a 11 day losing streak on Sunday. Then followed your picks yesterday. Only a modest 10 pt stake from me though, which returned just under 40pts. So i thank you!:cheers Out of interest a pal of mine was eyeing up those 3 yesterday and another favourite also at windsor. He likes serious betting so put down 100 pts on a lucky 15 on your 3 and the 7.40 or 8.40 cant remember which, but it returned him 1700 pts. He was to put it mildly a tad happy in the boozer last night. Wouldnt catch me putting down 100 pts covering 4 races. Asking for trouble in my book. Good Luck today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Tell him I charge 5% commission! :rollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SensiSteve Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Only 5% FF? With this threads overall stike rate, you should be charging at least 20% :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndplacewin Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Missed your selections yesterday but well done though mate excellent going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndplacewin Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Oh and what is it with Mondays, this is getting spooky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsul Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... good luck today fleet .. had a little go with these myself today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Cheers for all the kind words, fellas. Although the first 4 weeks were superb, after a week of rubbish the doubts creep in, so I'm happy to be above 500pts profit again! Tuesday 23rd May: Section 1: All races rated 3.10 LINGFIELD Easy Air 2nd evens 4.40 LINGFIELD Eastborough nowhere 5.10 LINGFIELD Wicked Uncle nowhere 7.40 TOWCESTER Ask The Umpire 1st 4/6 8.40 TOWCESTER Calomeria 1st 9/4 pissed it Section 2: Original 'Best Bets': Current +/-: +513.58pts (since April 18th) 3.10 LINGFIELD Easy Air 2nd :$ 7.40 TOWCESTER Ask The Umpire 1st 4/6 :clap 8.40 TOWCESTER Calomeria 1st 9/4 :clap 1 x 1pt treble, 3 x 3pts doubles, 3 x 5pts singles. 25pts staked. Section 3: New 'Best Difference': Current +/-: +24.07pts (since May 18th) 3.10 LINGFIELD Easy Air 2nd :$ 4.40 LINGFIELD Eastborough :$ 8.40 TOWCESTER Calomeria 1st 9/4 :clap 1 x 1pt treble, 3 x 3pts doubles, 3 x 5pts singles. 25pts staked.Section 2: Original 'Best Bets': 40.83pts returned :ok Current +/-: +529.41pts (since April 18th) :ok Section 3: New 'Best Difference': 16.25pts returned Current +/-: +15.32pts (since May 18th) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SensiSteve Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... It will be that dettori? IMO he never seems to win in these little battles these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted May 23, 2006 Author Share Posted May 23, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Wednesday 24th May: Section 1: All races rated 2.30 KELSO Kiwijumbo 2.40 GOODWOOD Reggae Rhythm / Theatre / Lewis Island 2.55 KEMPTON Fajr 3.15 GOODWOOD Blue Java 3.25 KEMPTON Prince Tum Tum 3.45 GOODWOOD Nawamees 4.10 KELSO Bearaway 4.20 GOODWOOD Incidentally 4.45 KELSO Reivers Moon 4.55 GOODWOOD Shot To Fame 5.10 KEMPTON Park Esteem 5.30 GOODWOOD Peopleton Brook 5.40 KEMPTON Madaffaa / Stretton 7.15 SEDGEFIELD Another Taipan Section 2: Original 'Best Bets': Current +/-: +529.41pts (since April 18th) 2.55 KEMPTON Fajr 4.10 KELSO Bearaway 5.10 KEMPTON Park Esteem 1 x 1pt treble, 3 x 3pts doubles, 3 x 5pts singles. 25pts staked. Section 3: New 'Best Difference': Current +/-: +15.32pts (since May 18th) 2.30 KELSO Kiwijumbo 5.10 KEMPTON Park Esteem 7.15 SEDGEFIELD Another Taipan 1 x 1pt treble, 3 x 3pts doubles, 3 x 5pts singles. 25pts staked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsul Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... 7.40 TOWCESTER Ask The Umpire this was 6/4 this morning @sportingodds time12.26:ok ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidn Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... hi well done a profit made again. good luck:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Wednesday 24th May: Section 1: All races rated 2.30 KELSO Kiwijumbo 2nd 3/1 2.40 GOODWOOD Reggae Rhythm nowhere / Theatre nowhere / Lewis Island nowhere 2.55 KEMPTON Fajr nowhere 3.15 GOODWOOD Blue Java nowhere 3.25 KEMPTON Prince Tum Tum nowhere 3.45 GOODWOOD Nawamees 2nd 11/4 4.10 KELSO Bearaway nowhere 4.20 GOODWOOD Incidentally 2nd 7/4 4.45 KELSO Reivers Moon 3rd 6/1 4.55 GOODWOOD Shot To Fame nowhere 5.10 KEMPTON Park Esteem 2nd 10/11 5.30 GOODWOOD Peopleton Brook nowhere 5.40 KEMPTON Madaffaa nowhere / Stretton nowhere 7.15 SEDGEFIELD Another Taipan nowhere in a race won by an 18/1 shot that had pulled up its last 2 outs! Section 2: Original 'Best Bets': Current +/-: +529.41pts (since April 18th) 2.55 KEMPTON Fajr :$ 4.10 KELSO Bearaway :$ 5.10 KEMPTON Park Esteem 2nd 10/11 :$ 1 x 1pt treble, 3 x 3pts doubles, 3 x 5pts singles. 25pts staked. Section 3: New 'Best Difference': Current +/-: +15.32pts (since May 18th) 2.30 KELSO Kiwijumbo 2nd 3/1 :$ 5.10 KEMPTON Park Esteem 2nd 10/11 :$ 7.15 SEDGEFIELD Another Taipan :$ 1 x 1pt treble, 3 x 3pts doubles, 3 x 5pts singles. 25pts staked. And they're off..... .....one of those shouldn't have bothered days. :@ Thank fook today is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... I swear it's about that time in the day..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_lovell Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... dont worry FF everybody has a bad day, hopefully we'll win tomorrow!!! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Damn you, I was waiting for you to suggest something about horses to place! :lol Today was the worst day so far, if you look at all the races rated - a complete wipeout, so to speak. Had to happen sooner or later - let's look it as 1 step backwards out of lots of steps forward. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Section 2: Original 'Best Bets': 0pts returned Current +/-: +504.41pts (since April 18th) :ok Section 3: New 'Best Difference': 0pts returned Current +/-: -9.68pts (since May 18th) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanga Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Think it was the reverse of what happened before FF - the ground has dried considerably with the ratings given for soft/heavy - typical english weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... .....7 18 of the bets have been at SPs of odds-on. Of these' date=' 12 have won. This means those bets have not been particularly profitable. In fact less I make it less than one point net profit from these 18 bets. [b']Suggests this category is really NOT worth backing at level stakes, unless perhaps you could obtain better early prices..... .....So apart from perhaps avoiding the races with short price favs, I can't find any way to filter the races that might increase the profitability, or cut down the work-load of analysis for me, I'm afraid. :okStill wondering if I should avoid races where the forecast favourite is odds-on? If I did, and one of the subsequent selections ended up odds-on at sp, that would be something we would simply have to accept. The reason I ask is that most of our better days involved winners at above evens, even if there was an odds-on winner involved. As a comparison, there's been days when we've had 2 out 3 win, but both a odds-on and ended with a loss still! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Think it was the reverse of what happened before FF - the ground has dried considerably with the ratings given for soft/heavy - typical english weather.Obviously Kent was the only place where it has rained all day then. Typical. :sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordyboy20 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Yeh personally i dont think there is no real advantage with the odds on selections as you said 2 could win and still no profit. take a look at ur results n wrk out a average price or summit. that way when selections come in more rewarding but as i say thats only my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ehouse Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Still wondering if I should avoid races where the forecast favourite is odds-on? I'd be inclined to agree FF. I've seen more odds on fav's get beat by rank outsiders it's unbelievable. 2 examples from today: Bollin Thomas 2/5!! To The Top 4/9!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Yeh personally i dont think there is no real advantage with the odds on selections as you said 2 could win and still no profit. take a look at ur results n wrk out a average price or summit. that way when selections come in more rewarding but as i say thats only my view. For example 2/3 win at evens: 5pts returns 10pts - twice, giving 20pts. 3pts double returns 12 points, making 32 pts in total and a profit of 7pts. It has to be evens as a minimum realistically. Obviously, I can't know for sure what the sp will be but I think I'll stop rating races where the forecast favourite is odds-on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordyboy20 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... yeh i agree evens at a minimum. Also with your all rated races section 1. if there is 2/3 horses over 5/1 what about doing them in a e/way selections doubles,treble? i dno if this as been tried just a idea. but your doing well im sure once the weather picks up we will see some improvements! keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Possibly but I've never been one for e/w, unless something is over 10/1 I've always looked for the win. Anyway, moving on: Thursday 25th May: Back to work tomorrow after my rostered long-weekend - will be out from 1pm until 11pm. Section 1: All races rated - as stated no races where Racing Post forecast favourite is odds-on! 2.10 GOODWOOD High Command 2.30 WETHERBY Finzi 2.40 GOODWOOD Corridor Creeper 3.45 GOODWOOD Days Of My Life 3.55 AYR Secret Liason 4.30 AYR Raymond's Pride / Paris Bell 5.30 GOODWOOD First Show 7.35 LINGFIELD High Ridge 7.45 SALISBURY Burnbank 8.05 LINGFIELD Famcred 8.35 LINGFIELD Tamagin 8.45 SALISBURY Kingscross Section 2: Original 'Best Bets': Current +/-: +504.41pts (since April 18th) 7.45 SALISBURY Burnbank 8.05 LINGFIELD Famcred 8.45 SALISBURY Kingscross 1 x 1pt treble, 3 x 3pts doubles, 3 x 5pts singles. 25pts staked. Section 3: New 'Best Difference': Current +/-: -9.68pts (since May 18th) 2.10 GOODWOOD High Command 2.30 WETHERBY Finzi 8.05 LINGFIELD Famcred 1 x 1pt treble, 3 x 3pts doubles, 3 x 5pts singles. 25pts staked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_lovell Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Damn you' date=' I was waiting for you to suggest something about horses to place! :lol [/quote'] :eek hehehe - no i like your system :notworthy your on to a winner m8... :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsul Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Salisbury.. OFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... aaarggghhhhhhhhhhh......... brb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Thursday 25th May: REVISED AFTER REMOVING SALISBURY (ABANDONED) Back to work tomorrow after my rostered long-weekend - will be out from 1pm until 11pm. Section 1: All races rated - as stated no races where Racing Post forecast favourite is odds-on! 2.10 GOODWOOD High Command 2.30 WETHERBY Finzi 2.40 GOODWOOD Corridor Creeper 3.45 GOODWOOD Days Of My Life 3.55 AYR Secret Liason 4.30 AYR Raymond's Pride / Paris Bell 5.30 GOODWOOD First Show 7.35 LINGFIELD High Ridge 8.05 LINGFIELD Famcred 8.35 LINGFIELD Tamagin Section 2: Original 'Best Bets': Current +/-: +504.41pts (since April 18th) 2.10 GOODWOOD High Command 2.40 GOODWOOD Corridor Creeper 8.05 LINGFIELD Famcred 1 x 1pt treble, 3 x 3pts doubles, 3 x 5pts singles. 25pts staked. Section 3: New 'Best Difference': Current +/-: -9.68pts (since May 18th) 2.10 GOODWOOD High Command 2.30 WETHERBY Finzi 8.05 LINGFIELD Famcred 1 x 1pt treble, 3 x 3pts doubles, 3 x 5pts singles. 25pts staked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Thursday 25th May: REVISED AFTER REMOVING SALISBURY (ABANDONED) Back to work tomorrow after my rostered long-weekend - will be out from 1pm until 11pm. Section 1: All races rated - as stated no races where Racing Post forecast favourite is odds-on! 2.10 GOODWOOD High Command :$ 2.30 WETHERBY Finzi :$ 2.40 GOODWOOD Corridor Creeper :$ 3.45 GOODWOOD Days Of My Life 1st 11/4 :) 3.55 AYR Secret Liason 3rd 5/1 4.30 AYR Raymond's Pride 3rd 4/1 / Paris Bell :$ 5.30 GOODWOOD First Show :$ 7.35 LINGFIELD High Ridge 1st 11/4 :) 8.05 LINGFIELD Famcred :$ 8.35 LINGFIELD Tamagin 1st 11/4 :) Section 2: Original 'Best Bets': Current +/-: +504.41pts (since April 18th) 2.10 GOODWOOD High Command :$ 2.40 GOODWOOD Corridor Creeper :$ 8.05 LINGFIELD Famcred :$ 1 x 1pt treble, 3 x 3pts doubles, 3 x 5pts singles. 25pts staked. Section 3: New 'Best Difference': Current +/-: -9.68pts (since May 18th) 2.10 GOODWOOD High Command :$ 2.30 WETHERBY Finzi :$ 8.05 LINGFIELD Famcred :$ 1 x 1pt treble, 3 x 3pts doubles, 3 x 5pts singles. 25pts staked. I gathered it had been crap, seeing as there's been no replies all day. :$ Section 2: Original 'Best Bets': 0pts returned Current +/-: +479.41pts (since April 18th) :ok Section 3: New 'Best Difference': 0pts returned Current +/-: -34.68pts (since May 18th) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alkim Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Re: Trialling something..... Sorry for not posting earlier to say thanks but every time i post i seem to jinx everyones thread. Ill risk it this time. thanks for the thread Fleet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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