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O'Sullivan, R332.873.253.253.2533.2533.25333.252.873.25
Higgins, J5.54.55.54655.55.55.54.55.565.556.8
Hendry, S989.579910101011118.59913
Murphy, S9109811111010109121081012.5
Maguire, S131511151315111312131515111214
Doherty, K171715172115171713171217211519.5
Stevens, M211715212317211721131915151523
Williams, M211721211717172123171921172127
Ebdon, P294141413434344134414141342940
Robertson, N345134515141414134514141412946
Dott, G415151515141415141515134514155
Hawkins, B415141676741515134675151516760
Lee, S676767676751516767515167675165
Cope, J514141678167816751816767816765
Carter, A515151678151676751815167816770
Perry, J815167675167818181815181818185
King, M81515181818181811011016767818170
Day, R678167101816767675181671016710185
Davis, S1011011018181818110110110167818110195
Walden, R10110110181101101101811011016710110110195
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White, J1011261261016781101101126101101101101126110
Swail, J126126126101678112610112612610112615110180
Dale, D126126126126126126151101101126151126151101100
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Hamilton, A126126151151151126126151101151151151101101200
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Fu, M151126151126126126126151126151151126201126140
Pinches, B176151201126101126151151201126151151151151180
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O'Brien, F176151201151101151151151251251201201151201200
Hicks, A201151201151151151151201251151101201151201210
Wenbo, L20115115115115120125120115125115130125120180
Bond, N201201301151201151201201201251201251201201200
Harold, D201201301201151151151201301251201251201301200
Davis, M251201251151151201201201251201201301251201230
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Roe, D401301301251201301501251501501251501401401250
Wattana, J251301501201201201251251251201201301201251330
Each-way terms: 2 at 1/2 2 at 1/2 2 at 1/2 2 at 1/2 2 at 1/22 at 1/22 at 1/2
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Re: Snooker: Welsh Open

Monday 27 February 2006
Player 1Player 2bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged." align="middle">sp.gifBPP
sp.gifBond v Wenbo (12:00 GMT)1.802.20sp.gif102%
sp.gifHarold v McCulloch (12:00 GMT)2.501.63sp.gif102%
sp.gifHicks v Wallace (12:00 GMT)1.682.37sp.gif102%
Hawkins v Roe (12:00 GMT)1.363.75sp.gif100%
sp.gifKing v Swail (12:00 GMT)1.802.20sp.gif102%
Davis v Gray (15:00 GMT)2.301.67sp.gif104%
sp.gifHamilton v O'Brien (15:00 GMT)1.832.10sp.gif103%
sp.gifDale v Holt (19:00 GMT)2.002.00sp.gif100%
sp.gifFu v Henry (19:00 GMT)1.832.20sp.gif100%
sp.gifMilkins v Trump (19:00 GMT)1.832.14sp.gif102%
sp.gifRobertson v Selby (19:00 GMT)1.542.75sp.gif102%
Tuesday 28 February 2006
Player 1Player 2bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged." align="middle">sp.gifBPP
sp.gifBurden v Carter (13:00 GMT)3.401.40sp.gif101%
sp.gifDay v Parrott (13:00 GMT)1.433.00sp.gif104%
Walden v Wattana (13:00 GMT)1.513.00sp.gif100%
Cope v Davis (19:00 GMT)2.001.90sp.gif103%
sp.gifMacKenzie v Pinches (19:00 GMT)2.751.57sp.gif100%
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Re: Snooker: Welsh Open I swear it's getting easier to pick the lottery numbers than sort out snooker form but I'm nothing if not game so I'll throw a couple of names into the hat! 4pts ew Stephen Maguire to win Welsh Open 14/1 Stan James Showed signs of a return to form out in Malta. Eventually went out to Ken Doherty who went on to win the tournament so nothing wrong with that and he has a nice draw here. If he catches fire then 14/1 is an excellent price. 1pt ew David Gray to win Welsh Open 250/1 William Hill I'm not quite sure where Hill's gets this price from but I'm not complaining! Ok David Gray isn't in particularly great form but it is only 15 months ago he was playing in the UK Championships final. He's also a ranking event winner in the past so he has what it takes if he can find his game. His section of the draw has big names in it but Stevens and Williams are both out of form. Gray needs a few good events now to climb back up the rankings and hopefully his 1st will come here. Good luck all.

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Re: Snooker: Welsh Open 2 match bets for Monday as well 10pts D.Dale to beat M.Holt Evs Totesport Dale played very well in Malta making the semi finals and will hope to continue the good form here. Holt is very capable but he's a bit like a timebomb and self explodes for no reason all too often. I'll take the in form man playing at home in this one. 5pts J.Trump to beat R.Milkins 11/10 Sporting Odds Trump's destined for big things in snooker and while it's a little too early to expect lots from him now I don't think it's beyond him to beat Robert Milkins. Milkins is incredibly inconsistent due to his very fast style and as long as Trump doesn't freeze on the big occasion he has every chance of winning this. I'm thinking about backing Wallace as well but I'm looking for some stats about that one 1st.

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Re: Snooker: Welsh Open Well, I placed my money on Bond (vs Wenbo) but he got trouced! 5-0 !! :wall Looks like Wenbo's on form, but against Graeme Dott in the next round, he'll be hard pushed! For me, I'll have to go against kevshat, It's gotta be Milkins! World Rank 25th against Trump, who's not in the top 100... ZuluWarrior

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For me, I'll have to go against kevshat, It's gotta be Milkins! World Rank 25th against Trump, who's not in the top 100...
You may well get the winner ZW, but don't judge snooker on stats like that or you will lose a lot of money. ;) Trump is still only 15 but is extremely talented and has a huge future in the game if he stays on track. This is his first season as a pro, so rankings mean nothing at this stage, especially as the snooker ranking run a 2 year cycle. :ok
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Re: Snooker: Welsh Open Monday 7pm 10pts Over 7.5 Frames (Fu v Henry) @ 1.72 Paddy Power Both out of form, looks to be a scrappy match and Drew Henry usually makes matches scrappy anyway. Just can't see either player getting away from each other and a 5-3 5-4 scoreline either way is a winner. Tuesday 7pm 10pts Over 7.5 Frames (S Davis v J Cope) @ 1.72 Paddy Power Cope is really beginning to make his mark but has his hands full here with the Master of the safety game. Davis is also in good form and obviously I see it as I do the match above, a very tight affair indeed.

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Well, I placed my money on Bond (vs Wenbo) but he got trouced! 5-0 !! :wall Looks like Wenbo's on form, but against Graeme Dott in the next round, he'll be hard pushed! For me, I'll have to go against kevshat, It's gotta be Milkins! World Rank 25th against Trump, who's not in the top 100... ZuluWarrior
That is true but as Paul said and as you found out earlier in the day, rankings aren't the best guide. Certainly not the official ones anyway. I like to use the provisional rankings and the 1 year rankings and in the 1 year rankings Trump is well ahead of Milkins. Good luck if you back Milkins but I could never back someone as inconsistant as him at odds on.
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Has Ronnie O Sullivan had any interviews yet and if so whats he said as if he says he wants to win its always work backing him e/w. When he wants to play hes the best in the business and you can usually see if hes up for it from his interviews.
He's never any value though ardman. :(
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Henry beats Fu 5-2 - 1 frame short. :eyes Just how bad is Marco Fu now, he may as well retire if that's the best he's got to offer these days.
I was watching that match on live scoring while keeping tabs on my other losing bets this evening and Henry for the majority of the time was literally scoring in 5's, 6's and 7's after the interval. Fu must be kicking himself that he didn't put up more of a challenge. If Henry carries on with that scoring pattern then Lee must be a cert in the next round.
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Re: Snooker: Welsh Open

SportSnooker/Pool
EventSnooker: Welsh Open
SelectionBarry Hawkins to beat Hendry
Strength10/10
Date28/02/2006
Bookmaker/PriceBetDirect @ 3.25 (Back)
ReasoningBetdirect are way out of line here, but let's not argue with them, just take full advantage. Hawkins last played Hendry in the UK Championships (Nov 2004), against all the odds Hawkins beat him 9-7, showing no fear and full of self belief. Provisionally No.7 in the world for next season and who could argue he's not good enough to be there? If this was a long distance match, I could make Hawkins 3.00 at worst, but the very fact it is a short distance, he should be no bigger than 2.38 in my opinion, especially considering Hendry's form is erratic despite him being provisionally back to No.1 (that's more to do with Ronnie missing tournys). Hawkins can win this tourny and talking from experience, playing a big player after you have scraped past an inferior opponent like Roe 5-4 the previous day, nearly always makes you play 10 times better the following match. Either way, 3.25 is way too big for this classy breakbuilder.
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SportSnooker/Pool
EventSnooker: Welsh Open
SelectionScott Mackenzie to beat Barry Pinches
Strength10/10
Date28/02/2006
Bookmaker/Pricetotesport @ 2.75 (Back)
ReasoningTotesport look way out of line here, but I'm not just backing this player because of his price. Lost 5-4 to Adrain Gunnell in the Grand Prix 1st Rd. Not a great result, but Gunnell is no mug. Lost 9-8 in UK Qualifiers 1st Rd to Mark Allen. Unfortunate draw it has to be said and Allen went on to qualify for the TV stages. China Open Qualifiers: Cruised through to Rd 3 with 5-0 and 5-1 wins in beating nobody special, but then comfortably beat both Gerrard Greene & Ian McCulloch 5-2 and they are excellent results over dangerous opponents and goes on to play Stevens later this season. En route to drawing Pinches here, he has beaten Marcus Campbell & Tony Drago 5-3, with a career highest break of 135, as well as a 125 which shows he's in tip top condition. Pinches is a player I have never been afraid to oppose as he is so limited. He can play well sure, but knowing how good Mackenzie's current form is, how can he be 2.75 to beat Pinches? I think Paddy Power have it more correct with Mackenzie at 2.25. If Mackenzie keeps up the current form he's showing, I think he'll dispose of Pinches to take on a much bigger challenge in John Higgins.
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Re: Snooker: Welsh Open I should point out that I'm not just a stats monkey :) Thanks for your advise! I did get Milkins right, but I agree too that it was waaayyy to close for comfort!! won't bet on Milkins again this torney, too unpredictable... Any thoughts on Walden V Wattana this afternoon??? Somebody looking for Ronnie interviews, here's a real short piece on worldsnooker.com but not what I'd call an interview... Thanks for the feedback kevshat and Paul (and others) On the plus side I'm up after yesterday, but a bit close, will be interesting day today! THis threads really livened up since yesterday when I last checked!! ZuluWarrior

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Re: Snooker: Welsh Open ZW, It's no big deal mate, but if you mention "I had this amount on" or "I got these odds" after the match has kicked off, it's generally frowned upon and at some point you'll see it from another newbie on here in the future and you'll see what we mean. :ok Anyway........come on Hawkins. Live on BBC Wales btw, Sky Channel 991. :ok

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Re: Snooker: Welsh Open Great picks Paul which look to have clinched you 2nd spot ahead of me in the Sports-punter comp. :eek :eek Following the Pinches match on the live scoring. Makenzie looks to have the final frame in the bag, but I need my beauty sleep so will have to leave it with Makenzie leading 49-7. If it goes on another 18 minutes I would want a stewards enquiry along with The Hendry match. I didn't see it but Kevshat pointed out that the ref scored it wrong which led to a respotted black. ;)

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Re: Snooker: Welsh Open Oh, I apologise then for "after-eventing". Didn't even realise I did it. Great tipping yesterday guys. Today holds alot of promise too, Maguire, Higgins, Stevens and Doherty must all feel real optimistic for this tornement, with the demise of the Rocket and a few other top ranking players. I agree that Maguire may win outright kevshat, I also fancy Doherty to win too (I don't know why, gut feeling that he'll do well). Both are at 10 to 1 on Stan James, but there must be better odds out there, time to hit oddschecker... I know Murphys about too, but I really don't rate his consistancy as a world beater. To be honest I really can't make my mind up on Murphy at all... All in all I think Doherty and Stevens will do well today at 1pm, but McManus V Milkins I think will be close, anyone with any form on McManus?? But I ain't no pundit, so I wait eagerly to hear the views of the real tippsters out there! ZuluWarrior

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