alexcaruso808 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I am currently devising a new system whereby I consider different factors of giving a horse my own rating. At the minute I have it set up to include the OR and RPR, but I'm wondering if these are accurate? Don't some trainers and jockeys send their horses out knowing full well they wont win the race, just to manipulate the OR and RPR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang on Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 17 hours ago, alexcaruso808 said: I am currently devising a new system whereby I consider different factors of giving a horse my own rating. At the minute I have it set up to include the OR and RPR, but I'm wondering if these are accurate? Don't some trainers and jockeys send their horses out knowing full well they wont win the race, just to manipulate the OR and RPR? Of course, that's the nature of the game. Gradually get the horse fully fit and ready, whilst all the time trying to get the handicap mark down. That makes the 'Official Rating' redundant at times, although I'm sure it counts for much more in the valuable handicaps and Group races. As for RPR ratings, the racing post ratings are a 'help' but are only someones opinion. For FACTS, check out the NAPS competition in the R.Post, RPR is in the bottom 7 of 52 tipsters. As for ALL races this year, they are currently showing a 26% strike rate, despite tipping 46% favourites. Treat with caution Alex. gbettle, alexcaruso808, MCLARKE and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 It all depends how you use your ratings. For example if a horse has won over the CD then that is a positive factor in terms of how likely it is to win. However these horses are overbet so it is a negative factor in terms of value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexcaruso808 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, Bang on said: Of course, that's the nature of the game. Gradually get the horse fully fit and ready, whilst all the time trying to get the handicap mark down. That makes the 'Official Rating' redundant at times, although I'm sure it counts for much more in the valuable handicaps and Group races. As for RPR ratings, the racing post ratings are a 'help' but are only someones opinion. For FACTS, check out the NAPS competition in the R.Post, RPR is in the bottom 7 of 52 tipsters. As for ALL races this year, they are currently showing a 26% strike rate, despite tipping 46% favourites. Treat with caution Alex. Now that is interesting. Thanks for the info. 17 minutes ago, MCLARKE said: It all depends how you use your ratings. For example if a horse has won over the CD then that is a positive factor in terms of how likely it is to win. However these horses are overbet so it is a negative factor in terms of value. What I did for today was make two sets of calculations. One has included RPR and OR (I add these together and get an average) and the other is calculated without these. I have noted the horses so I will be interesting to see the results. MCLARKE, gbettle and LEE-GRAYS 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexcaruso808 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 Well, here are some preliminary results: Version A - OR and RPR factored into the system Version B - OR and RPR not factored into system. The horses in bold are the ones that I had shortlisted and I have noted what version of the system gave me them to shortlist. 2.25 Beverly 1st - Ugo Gregory 2nd - Arranmore - Version B 3rd - La Rav - Version A & B 4th - Danielsflyer 5th - Urban War - Version A & B 6th - Give It Some Teddy 7th - King's Pavillion 8th - Blu Boy - Version A & B 9th - Little Jo 10th - Quiet Assassin 11th - Blowing Wind I have some other races that I'm watching too - no bets, just testing the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbettle Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 A chap - on another forum, I know ... shudder! - took OR + RPR - CR( which is the vdw consistency rating) Calls the system, ORC alexcaruso808 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexcaruso808 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, gbettle said: A chap - on another forum, I know ... shudder! - took OR + RPR - CR( which is the vdw consistency rating) Calls the system, ORC Never heard of VDW until, interesting.... It looks like a rabbit hole! I have altered my system slightly and have some horses which I will watch for tomorrow. Fingers crossed.... gbettle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilzalian Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 My notebook has more value than my computer and or ratings other than my own ratings + my notebook alexcaruso808, MCLARKE and gbettle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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