MCLARKE Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Good luck ! The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Many thanks for the update @MCLARKE it seems a bit strange to me to see 18 entrants at the qualifying stage that is reduced to 8. What is the point in showing another 10 who don't seem to have a hope in continuing in the KO cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 Some people might be interested to see how close they came, I would be reasonably happy if I came in the top half. The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, MCLARKE said: Some people might be interested to see how close they came, I would be reasonably happy if I came in the top half. Maybe it would be helpful to state that only the last eight go forward into the second round, even though this is stated in the rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glavintoby Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1.25 Chepstow Nassalam 11/10 Bet 365 2.20 Kempton Mcfabulous 6/4 Hills 2.55 Kempton Imperial Aura 5/6 Paddy power reserve 12.05 Kempton Bannister 9/4 bet 365 The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendallmintcake Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3.10 CHEPSTOW SPRINGFIELD FOX 8-1 P POWER E/W 3.30 KEMPTON HUNTERS CALL 11/1 P POWER E/W 2-35 Hunt TWO FOR GOLD 9/2 E/W P POWER res 2.15 Lingfield Cardano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 It would seem that I have been left with the dregs for my non handicap favourite selections today. I remember that @Trotteronce questioned whether a favourite in a low class race was possibly just as good as a favourite in a high class race. I believe that @MCLARKEthen provided statistics to show that the classier favourite horses do better than their low class counterparts. Never mind. I will console myself with the knowledge that the classiest favourites usually face tougher opposition than their lower class counterparts. Nevertheless, some fine tipping by my opponent today. 11.45 Chep Champagne Rhythm one point win at 9/4 with Bet365. Let's hope that it doesn't get stuffed by yet another Paul Nichols runner 12.00 Ling Who Cares Wins one point win at 15/8 with Betvictor. Let's hope that Hollie Doyle works her magic 2.30 Chep Easy As That one point win at 2/1 with Bet365. Hoping that Venetia has this one well prepped for the heavy going on the course that she is famous for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astleavista Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Good luck to my opponent today as I try to avenge my defeat in the final last month. One can only hope that the match generates a little more excitement this time around. Kempton 3.30 - Dhowin (ew @ 16/1 with Bet365) Chepstow 3.10 - The Hollow Ginge (ew @ 28/1 with Bet365) Wincanton 3.05 - Baignard (ew @ 10/1 with Bet365) Reserves: Kempton 3.57 - Nordican Bleue (ew) Kempton 1.45 - Guitar Pete (ew) Ken The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, The Equaliser said: It would seem that I have been left with the dregs for my non handicap favourite selections today. I remember that @Trotteronce questioned whether a favourite in a low class race was possibly just as good as a favourite in a high class race. I believe that @MCLARKEthen provided statistics to show that the classier favourite horses do better than their low class counterparts. Never mind. I will console myself with the knowledge that the classiest favourites usually face tougher opposition than their lower class counterparts. Nevertheless, some fine tipping by my opponent today. 11.45 Chep Champagne Rhythm one point win at 9/4 with Bet365. Let's hope that it doesn't get stuffed by yet another Paul Nichols runner 12.00 Ling Who Cares Wins one point win at 15/8 with Betvictor. Let's hope that Hollie Doyle works her magic 2.30 Chep Easy As That one point win at 2/1 with Bet365. Hoping that Venetia has this one well prepped for the heavy going on the course that she is famous for. I forgot to add the reserves 11.52 Win Malinello one point win at 5/6 with bet365 4.45 Chelm At Your Service one point win at 10/11 with Bet365 Sorry What a dreadful day. I hope that someone made some money! Well done to @glavintoby for at least nailing one winner on this very difficult day for favourites in non handicap races ? Edited January 10, 2021 by The Equaliser Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bymatrix Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 4.10 Chelmsford Needwood Blossom ( each way ) 5/1 William Hill 4.45 Chelmsford Your Choice ( each way ) 10/1 Bet Victor 5.45 Chelmsford Joyfilly ( each way ) 5/1 Bet Victor Reserves 3.30 Kempton Shang Tang ( each way ) 9/1 Bet365 3.57 Kempton Fransham ( each way ) 5/1 Bet365 Good luck Astle & everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vangovin Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1405 Wincanton Protektorat Bet365 1/2 1420 Kempton McFabulous Bet365 11/10 1545 Wincanton Glajou Bet365 15/8 Reserves 1435 Wincanton Evander Bet365 6/5 1455 Kempton Imperial Aura Bet365 5/6 1645 Chelmsford At Your Service Bet365 10/11 Ty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve75 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 10 hours ago, kendallmintcake said: 3.10 CHEPSTOW SPRINGFIELD FOX 8-1 P POWER E/W 3.30 KEMPTON HUNTERS CALL 11/1 P POWER E/W 2-35 Hunt TWO FOR GOLD 9/2 E/W P POWER res 2.15 Lingfield Cardano kendallmintcake Apologies I should have played you but when I last looked I hadn't qualified and I didn't realise there had been an amendment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendallmintcake Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 thanks for that no probs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 Today's results. The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, MCLARKE said: Today's results. Haha, what does this mean in relation to the next round? @MCLARKEI can see that there are 3 clear contestants going forward however, the 4th is not clear to me. There seems to be nothing in the rules about what happens when a contestant doesn't play in a round. It doesn't seem fair to me to assume that someone who did not participate would have either got a winner or a placed selection and therefore should play off against each other in order to qualify. What seems to me to be the fairest solution is for all including the one's who lost £3 should play off against each other to find the 4th contestant. Just to show that I am not trying to get myself back into the competition and, since there would be 5 outstanding contestants in the play off, I am willing to exclude myself on the grounds of fairness for the competition. Would like to know what @kendallmintcake, @Steve75, @Astleavista, and @Sugardaddyken feel about all this? This looks like a difficult one to me. Edited January 10, 2021 by The Equaliser Further explanation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve75 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 12 hours ago, The Equaliser said: Haha, what does this mean in relation to the next round? @MCLARKEI can see that there are 3 clear contestants going forward however, the 4th is not clear to me. There seems to be nothing in the rules about what happens when a contestant doesn't play in a round. It doesn't seem fair to me to assume that someone who did not participate would have either got a winner or a placed selection and therefore should play off against each other in order to qualify. What seems to me to be the fairest solution is for all including the one's who lost £3 should play off against each other to find the 4th contestant. Just to show that I am not trying to get myself back into the competition and, since there would be 5 outstanding contestants in the play off, I am willing to exclude myself on the grounds of fairness for the competition. Would like to know what @kendallmintcake, @Steve75, @Astleavista, and @Sugardaddyken feel about all this? This looks like a difficult one to me. As I explained to Kendallmintcake when I last looked I hadn't qualified and I was unaware that there had been a mistake so didn't play. That's the only reason I didn't play I wasn't trying to get through without playing. The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astleavista Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Not an easy one, I wasn’t surprised that @Steve75 didn’t post as if like many others he checked the table after the qualifying round and found he wasn’t in the top eight he would have have had no reason to check again. Personal feeling is that he and his opponent should play again to get a winner, as for @Sugardaddyken as he simply failed to show then I reckon he’s forfeited his chance. Other results should stand, but happy to go along with whatever decision the organiser makes. Ken Steve75 and The Equaliser 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendallmintcake Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 i think we should play again The Equaliser and Steve75 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve75 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, kendallmintcake said: i think we should play again Very kind suggestion Kendallmintcake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 Very gracious of you @kendallmintcake. Please let me know which day suits you both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Steve75 said: Very kind suggestion Kendallmintcake! Should this be the outcome then I cannot see how it could be incorporated into any future KO cup rules amendments. Who is to say whether @Sugardaddyken did not have a valid reason for not playing or someone like him,/her in the future should two players not participate in a round. It seems impractical for PL to run some sort of arbitration service. The simplest addition to the rules would be for PL administration to say that players who do not participate in a round forfeit their chance of going forward into the next round. In this way the play off's for those who tied would take place as usual. I feel that we need a decision that can be used in the rules for the future. Also, I'm not sure what happens when there is an odd number in the play off's. Perhaps @Trotter knows the answer to this one as it must have happened before. Anyway, we will have to wait and see the outcome from @MCLARKEand the other administrators. All very difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 In this particular situation it was my error that led to Steve being excluded so it is a one-off situation. The basic rule is that if a player does not make any selections then he is excluded from the competition. Astleavista 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendallmintcake Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 i will let steve 75 choose a day if that is ok by him MCLARKE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve75 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, kendallmintcake said: i will let steve 75 choose a day if that is ok by him Kendallmintcake I will look at the cards tomorrow. Thanks. MCLARKE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugardaddyken Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) I'm sorry but I just forgot, sometimes life gets complicated and other thing become more important .I have no complaints on how Admin runs to comps Edited January 11, 2021 by Sugardaddyken MCLARKE, The Equaliser and bymatrix 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve75 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Kendallmintcake and MCLARKE let's go for Wednesday if that is okay. Thanks. MCLARKE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendallmintcake Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 ok thanks MCLARKE and Steve75 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve75 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Leicester: 2.40 When You're Ready 5/2 @ Bet365 1.10 Jack Valentine 100/30 @ Bet365 Plumpton: 2.00 Star Academy 11/8@ Bet365 Reserves: Plumpton: 2.30 Snuff Box 4/1@ Bet365 3.00 March Is On @ Bet365 Leicester: 3.40 Fontaine Collonges 1/1 @ Bet365 Good Luck Kendallmintcake - apologies again for Saturday! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve75 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 43 minutes ago, Steve75 said: Leicester: 2.40 When You're Ready 5/2 @ Bet365 1.10 Jack Valentine 100/30 @ Bet365 Plumpton: 2.00 Star Academy 11/8@ Bet365 Reserves: Plumpton: 2.30 Snuff Box 4/1@ Bet365 3.00 March Is On @ Bet365 Leicester: 3.40 Fontaine Collonges 1/1 @ Bet365 Good Luck Kendallmintcake - apologies again for Saturday! Thanks. Apologies March is on is 13/2 @ Bet365 The Equaliser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Equaliser Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Best of luck and let's hope that Ken @kendallmintcake posts up his selections soon so as to make an interesting competition of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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