richard-westwood Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 million pound mega fest .....any thoughts or tips in here ...I'll rate the race fully when the final decs are online in the next couple days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) Finished ratings ... Marmelo 99,15 Wall of fire 99.13 Humidor 99.11 Very very open race as you'd expect but humidor beat marmelo last time they met but I'd fully expect the latter to turn that around over 2 miles as he looks to be crying out for a step up in trip .....Wall of fire is a dark horse ..,has been steadily rising through the ranks and has been allocated a nice low race weight so if he's good enough then then door is wide open now ....top 2 for me easy choices Marmelo 10pts win 15/2 bet365 Wall of fire 10pts win 12/1 bet365 Edited November 6, 2017 by richard-westwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Good luck mate Be nice if the Mullins team can nick some prizemoney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertob Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Good luck everyone! Here's my take on this very special race. Melbourne Cup 2017 - Preview: The race that stops the nation.... or the race that disrupts my sleep. Yep, it's back - the one and only Melbourne Cup! Thankfully only once a year. Getting up at 3.30am on a regular basis is probably not recommended. Nonetheless, Tuesday morning I will. All in the name of my favourite race on this beautiful planet! Not because I've ever been particularly successful finding the winner. I have not. But because the build-up. The atmosphere. The enormity of the whole event. It's special. One day I gonna be there. To see it with my own eyes. Wide awake and alert. Unlike tomorrow morning. When I watch on with red eyes. As close as I ever came to the mecca that Flemington is: I drove passed it with a rental car earlier this year on a trip to Australia. Let's talk about the actual race: off at 4am Irish time. Here's hoping my neighbours are prepared for the screams of joy when Rekindling strolls over the line as the winner of the 2017 Melbourne Cup! In past years I always backed multiple horses in the race. Didn't do me any good. Only the bookies were smiling. This year I pin all my hopes on the Joseph O'Brien trained three year old colt. But let's move all the negative factors out of the way first: no doubt there are a handful of good reasons why this lad won't get anywhere near the money tomorrow morning. Some smarter people than I am are probably right if they say Rekindling had a long season, the Cup is a mere afterthought on the back of an excellent Ledger performance and therefore he'll find this really tough. Rekindling is not a particularly imposing individual in terms of physical presence either. He didn't have a prep run Down Under. And he's a galloping sort who might not enjoy the start-stop nature of the race. All fair points. However at 14/1 I am prepared to take a chance on Rekindling, fully aware I will likely go back to sleep at roughly 4.30am after yet another Cup disappointment. But hold on, let's hear for all the good reasons why Rekindling will win the 2017 Melbourne Cup: Weight, Class and Ratings. He's a classy 116 rated individual, a multiple pattern class winner and was only 2 lengths beaten - and in my view unlucky not to get closer - when 4th in the English St. Leger. He gets into the Cup with a featherweight thanks to WFO, however on Aussie terms is actually a four year old. He's got as little as 8st 2lb to carry. He's third highest ranked in terms of time speed and Racing Post Ratings. Granted, the merit of these ratings is questionable for obvious reasons - it still is another little piece in the puzzle. The draw. It could hardly be any better. Stall 4 gives every opportunity. Not allot of energy needs to be wasted early on, as long Rekindling breaks alright. Which he should. Form. An impressive winner of the Curragh Cup, and an equally as impressive 4th in the English St. Leger. A performance I rate particularly highly. That is because he came from a long way back that day, trailing for most parts, and when travelling strongly on the bridle over three furlongs out, he did not get a clear run and lost valuable momentum and ground as a consequence. Yet he produced the joint fastest sectionals for the last four furlongs and finished in fourth, only 2 lengths behind Capri. That form in its own right is strong, but has already been franked multiple times. I also don't subscribe to the fact Rekindling would not be suited to the start-stop nature of the Melbourne Cup. In fact this lad is not a mere galloping sore who travels strongly and grinds things out. No, he has pace and a turn of foot. He showed it quite clearly when producing a superb effort over 10 furlongs in the lowly ran Ballysax Stakes earlier this year. Now, I do really love the chance of this horse. I understand why people compare him to Bondi Beach in last years Cup. However I feel Rekindling is a different animal altogether. I strongly believe he's more for than against him - with one only concern: he's usually held up. Here's hoping Rekindling will be utilized to full effect from his positive draw and does not settle farther off the pace than midfield. I readily admit that it is a huge ask, nonetheless. And the field is incredibly competitive. I do not quite buy into the hype of Marmelo and find it hard to see Almandin doing it all again - however Red Cardinal would be my absolute prime chance in this race - if not for the wide draw. Now this must not be a problem necessarily given he'll settle off the pace anyways, regardless of the draw. Still, he'll be too far back I fear. Max Dynamite, if fully fit - and he looked good during his comeback run - is another one to like a lot. The runner-up of 2015 has even less weight to carry this time round. Tiberian, despite a wide draw, might be able to cross over as there seems not too much early pace here. If so, he's a dangerous horse. Hugo Palmer's Wall Of Fire had the perfect preparation - he's a major player. Nonetheless, it's Rekindling or nothing for me. And what a story it would be. Joseph O'Brien in his first season as a trainer winning the Melbourne Cup - a feast his record breaking father never achieved? Go son, go! Selection: 10pts win - Rekindling @ 14/1 William Hill DanV89, Tedthewolf, BillyHills and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Love this race always have a go at it. My main bet this time around is Max Dynamite had him very well backed 2 years ago in this when beat by a 100/1 shot Frankie Dettori rode a shocker that day imho. have gone in e/w 16/1 4 places really think he will go very close off a slightly lower mark this time round. Also on Hartnell e/w 28/1 Godolphin would love to win this awesome race and what a story it would be for the Trainer Sir Barts grandson! Another Mullins horse for me im on e/w at 66/1 Wicklow Brave ran no sort of race in this last year is better than that much kinder draw this time my last bet is for a horse with talent but disappointed lto Venture Storm could well bounce back and outrun its odds. i have boxed all 4 for a go at the qunella/fc, In closing heart says Hartnell head says Max Dynamite. Best of luck to all that play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 A really good preview https://andrewhawkinsracing.com.au/2017/11/05/your-complete-guide-to-the-2017-melbourne-cup-by-andrew-hawkins/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owenclass Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) My selections for the Melbourne Cup Amelies Star 20/1 paddy power Almandin 7/1 paddy power Red Cardinal 14/1 paddy power Wall of Fire 11/1 paddy power I just feel that these horses will suit the course and have had good prep races Edited November 7, 2017 by owenclass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Super call Roberto robertob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 R7 Melbourne Cup Results 2017 3200m $6.2M Good3 View TAB Results #Number. Horse (Barrier)Starting Price $15 1 22. Rekindling (4) J: C Brown T: O'Brien $11 2 7. Johannes Vermeer (3) J: B Melham T:A O'Brien $15 3 3. Max Dynamite (1) J: Z Purton T: W Mullins $21 4 13. Big Duke (5) J: B.Avdulla T: D Weir View Full TAB Results Melbourne Cup Results and Replay 2017 The Melbourne Cup Results and Replay 2017 at Flemington Racecourse. 1st - REKINDLING 2nd - JOHANNES VERMEER 3rd - MAX DYNAMITE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertob Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Oh what a sweet feeling to get it right - particularly on such a big day! Pinned all my hopes on Rekindling, feeling there was everything to like about his chance. How he delivered. Superb ride by Corey Brown. Let the horse settle, made most of the perfect draw and had him pinch perfect positioned when it mattered. Again wonderful buildup to the race itself. Always feels like the world cup final. They do it so well over there! Saint R and vikki37 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint R Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Was going to back this then went for Libran for the price. Well done. robertob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 Well done excellent tipping robertob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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