Sir Puntalot Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Today, 08:43 #34 spreadman spreadwizard (?) Join Date: 27 Feb 2005 Location: jersey, channel isles,U.K. Posts: 425 Re: Canadian Grand Prix No bets being taken on usgp, any idea when, and if, tyre 'problem' might be resolved? __________________ " .......look, I made a little brown fish........" spreadmanView Public ProfileSend a private message to spreadmanFind More Posts by spreadmanAdd spreadman to Your Buddy List Today, 11:46 #35 ridle Newbie Punter Join Date: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 12 Re: Canadian Grand Prix Terrific value in the following: Karthikeyan, N Monteiro, T Albers, C Freisacher to finish in points. Despite the fact that there cars are less than competitive, the circumstances suggest taking prices higher than 30(Centrebet or Betdirect) looks great value. ridleView Public ProfileSend a private message to ridleVisit ridle's homepage!Find More Posts by ridleAdd ridle to Your Buddy List Today, 11:52 #36 spreadman spreadwizard (?) Join Date: 27 Feb 2005 Location: jersey, channel isles,U.K. Posts: 425 Re: Canadian Grand Prix Any news on tyres, etc. Mr. R? __________________ " .......look, I made a little brown fish........" spreadmanView Public ProfileSend a private message to spreadmanFind More Posts by spreadmanAdd spreadman to Your Buddy List Today, 12:13 #37 ridle Newbie Punter Join Date: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 12 Re: Canadian Grand Prix Nothing new, expect if the Michelin drivers wouldn't start, the Jordan / Minardi drivers 'just would have to drive the distance to win points! __________________ http://www.ridlebets.com My betting blog. ridleView Public ProfileSend a private message to ridleVisit ridle's homepage!Find More Posts by ridleAdd ridle to Your Buddy List Today, 12:19 #38 stereoman Shrewdie Punter Join Date: 26 Oct 2004 Location: Newcastle-under-Lyme Posts: 810 Re: Canadian Grand Prix ....even if the Minardi pair of Albers and Friesacher drove around the track really slowly, they still probably wouldn't even finish the race! Last edited by stereoman : Today at 12:20. stereomanView Public ProfileSend a private message to stereomanFind More Posts by stereomanAdd stereoman to Your Buddy List Today, 12:25 #39 ridle Newbie Punter Join Date: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 12 Re: Canadian Grand Prix Quote: Originally Posted by stereoman ....even if the Minardi pair of Albers and Friesacher drove around the track really slowly, they still probably wouldn't even finish the race! Albers finished 5/8 races, Friesacher 3/8 this year. Karthikeyan (or whatever) 5/8, Monteiro 8/8! __________________ http://www.ridlebets.com My betting blog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Puntalot Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Slight mess I know, but better than adding on to the canadian. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmphill Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix And theres me thinking Canada was a State belonging to the good old US of A! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Just 3 bets for me for the US GP - not sure if the prices have changed somewhat as I placed them yesterday(and also on sports-punter.com). 10pts There will be NO Safety Car during race (2.00 @ Betfair) 2.00 for there to be no Safety Car is just too big, considering more than half the races on the F1 calendar do not see the presence of the Safety Car. Think this is an overreaction from the fact the safety car was called upon at last week's Canadian GP. 10pts Winning Car - McLaren (2.00 @ Betfair) McLaren have got the fastest car amongst the 10 teams in F1 now and so long as reliability doesn't plague them, I just can't see other teams living with their pace. 10pts F Alonso to finish on podium (2.00 @ Betfair) This is massive - Alonso has secured a place on the podium in virtually every race he has finished so far and going by the law of averages, it certainly doesn't make much sense for a car as reliable as the Renaults to register 2 DNF in 2 consecutive races. Alonso has certainly got to be value to bag a podium position at 2.00. Cheers & Good Luck! :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Puntalot Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix I'm going for just the one bet here, but what a price! 10pts Nick Heidfeld to finish in the points @ 2.67 >Paddy Power 2.25 @ Skybet Heidfeld lies 15th on the grid, but grid positions are always blown out of proportion. In the last 5 years in this grand prix, Heidfeld has had 1 retirement, and 5th, 9th, 6th and 9th places, in inferior cars to what he has now, being the Prost and the Sauber. Clearly he likes the track based on past performances, and I expect him to be slicing through the pack in his Williams, and finish comfortably in the points. There are usually quite a few retirements here, so this just adds to the value. :) I thought 2.25 was a good price, but 2.67 is asking to get kicked right where it hurts from Paddys. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1man Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Edtkh, the safety car is a bit more likely to come out in this race, due to the walls and that it is hard to clear the track if someone does go out. Also with the high chances of tyre failure, I would advice that there is potenetially no value in this bet. The other two bets seem far. I like your Heidfeld bet Paul, but sometimes the problem with Heidfeld is that he does not turn up to race and just goes round the track. The to 9th places are a bit worrying and being near the back of the grid he might not be battling like he did for the podiums. But I reckon there is definetely a bit of value in it. I will be back later with a few tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Edtkh, the safety car is a bit more likely to come out in this race, due to the walls and that it is hard to clear the track if someone does go out. Also with the high chances of tyre failure, I would advice that there is potenetially no value in this bet. I was just going to reply along the same kind of lines. Hard to clear the track in certain areas and with all the queries hanging over the reliability of the tyres this isnt a bet Id like to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Puntalot Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Paddys have shit a brick, Heidfeld in to 2.00 now. :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Edtkh, the safety car is a bit more likely to come out in this race, due to the walls and that it is hard to clear the track if someone does go out. Also with the high chances of tyre failure, I would advice that there is potenetially no value in this bet. The other two bets seem far. I like your Heidfeld bet Paul, but sometimes the problem with Heidfeld is that he does not turn up to race and just goes round the track. The to 9th places are a bit worrying and being near the back of the grid he might not be battling like he did for the podiums. But I reckon there is definetely a bit of value in it. I will be back later with a few tips. I can't find stats to back me up, but if my memory serves me well, I'd go so far as to say I don't recall seeing the SC out in more than 1 in 2 races at Indianapolis since the race was brought back to the US in the late 90's... Any stats to back that up, F1man or WorkingForTheEnemy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1man Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Hi Edtkh, I dont know where you would find that information out. I have never really considered it a serious market for myself to invest my money into. But generally the safety car does not come out and in that aspect evens is a good price, I would just have been a bit concerned about current situations, because if there is a big blow out, then the sasfety car will come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Hi Edtkh, I dont know where you would find that information out. I have never really considered it a serious market for myself to invest my money into. But generally the safety car does not come out and in that aspect evens is a good price, I would just have been a bit concerned about current situations, because if there is a big blow out, then the sasfety car will come out. LOL! :lol That's the reasoning I went along. Of course, anything could happen in any given race, but I'm going along with the fact that less than 50% of the races in any given season would involve the SC(and if my memory serves me well, the same could be said for the Indianapolis race over the last few years)... Having said that, this is not normally a market I dabble in, but I do recall the 'NO' SC option is often trading closer to the 1.30-1.50 mark in other races - perhaps, a case of over-reaction after the Canadian GP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1man Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix "Michelin will not allow its seven Formula One teams race in the US Grand Prix today." Just released, this could really fcuk my early bets up. The only value I had seen was Zonta at 3.25 at Coral. It should be about 2.5 in my opinion. He is a quick driver and if he does compete could get a few points for the team. He will also try and drive well to advertise himself to all the other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix If thats the case then Id say Edtkh's "No safety car" bet looks fantastic now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spreadman Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Oops. I'm not a GP punter, normally, so does anyone know who is, (or isn't), driving? I'm on raik., trulli, and heidf. Cheers,:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Where did you read that F1Man? Formula One website says still no decision made as does the BBC sports page, which was last updated at 5:19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1man Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=90148 These guys are normally quick. Not seen the story anywhere else. Dont know how reliable the story is. Teams left: Ferrari Jordan Minardi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Wether the Michlen teams run or not, they wont be pushing fully into the problem turns. Schumacher @ 3.25 Barichello @ 5.1 for fastest lap times. Good bet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky085 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix There's been a lot of movement with the odds at the moment. Raikonen's price has gone up to 2.37 at some bookies while Schumacher's price has gone down. Does anyone know what is happening, and is this related to problems with the Michelin tyres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1man Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix The movement is definately related to the tyres. The points finish of the Minardis and Jordans have gone doown to under 10. Those fastest lap times could be good, just depends what is going to happen. Coverage on ITV starts soon, might clear a lot of this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Blue Square go 12/1 for Barichello fastest lap time. Surely worth a touch. If the Michelin teams dont start, will bookies treat them as NR's same as a horse race, as long as they dont take to the grid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edtkh Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Blue Square go 12/1 for Barichello fastest lap time. Surely worth a touch. If the Michelin teams dont start, will bookies treat them as NR's same as a horse race, as long as they dont take to the grid? That's something I was about to broach - if only 3 teams start this race, how will the books treat this race? Realistically, I can't see 7 teams not starting as I'm pretty certain they will reach a consensus somehow - those mercenaries headed by the cnut Ecclestone simply won't subject this to a farce of having just 6 cars out on track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spreadman Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix WFTE, the nice lady at Ladbdicks told me my bets would be void if my selections didn't start. And then she took my money.Time will tell. ITV about to start........:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix WFTE, the nice lady at Ladbdicks told me my bets would be void if my selections didn't start. And then she took my money. :rollin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix If only 3 teams, it won't take place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Not looking too good at the moment. I havnt even placed a bet and probably wont, I just wanna see a bloody race! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Can someone update me on the latest - lightning has taken our TVs out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanie Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Most cars on the grid, but it sounds like all but 4 cars will go back to the pits after the formation lap, leaving just the Jordan's and Ferrari's to race. And it looks like it will go ahead :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spreadman Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix STOP PRESS!!!!! USA F1 Grand Prix. A spokesman has issued the following statement, 18.43 p.m., g.m.t.: "we are tyred and worn out". I think he was taking the michelin.......... :\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Still no chicane being built. It seems some cars wont leave the garage, some will run formation lap but then enter the pits and not compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingForTheEnemy Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: USA F1 Grand Prix Most cars on the grid, but it sounds like all but 4 cars will go back to the pits after the formation lap, leaving just the Jordan's and Ferrari's to race. And it looks like it will go ahead Surely they cant count this as a championship race if this is the case? This could lead to further problems as if its not official the FIA will withdraw their staff including starters and medical staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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