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just looking at the ante post for this ultra competitive and open race .....might be a waste but with prices on offer im prepared to take the chance at a big payout 

sternrubin       99.33

charmix          99.31 

war sound    99.25 

interesting results   .........hobbs seems to be going all out to win this holding the current 1st and 3rd rated horses ...one of which is fav ...sternrubin looks a horse to follow ...has destroyed most of his opposition so far and looks well up to taking this if in the same good heart .....war sound is a very good horse also but sternrubin has the potential factor and at 14/1 he looks a very good value bet at this time .....a more speculative choice is charmix who has some decent form last but one when running away with a class 4 ....didnt perform as planned when stepped up to top class lto but he was running well and ground was atrocious that day so could be forgiven that blip.....no guarntees that he will run in this as trainer has suggested a step up might be needed but i really donr think thats the case .....he was travelling beautifully at 2 miles previously and looks perfectly weighted to take a huge part in this if he stands his ground ........currently hes being offered at 55.0!!!on betfair (generally 20/1 shot ) and at that price its worth taking the risk he runs because if he does that price would be spectacular !!!!

sternrubin   5pts win 14/1 lads

charmix   5 pts win 55.0 betfair 

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On 2/3/2016, 10:48:02, richard-westwood said:

just looking at the ante post for this ultra competitive and open race .....might be a waste but with prices on offer im prepared to take the chance at a big payout 

sternrubin       99.33

charmix          99.31 

war sound    99.25 

interesting results   .........hobbs seems to be going all out to win this holding the current 1st and 3rd rated horses ...one of which is fav ...sternrubin looks a horse to follow ...has destroyed most of his opposition so far and looks well up to taking this if in the same good heart .....war sound is a very good horse also but sternrubin has the potential factor and at 14/1 he looks a very good value bet at this time .....a more speculative choice is charmix who has some decent form last but one when running away with a class 4 ....didnt perform as planned when stepped up to top class lto but he was running well and ground was atrocious that day so could be forgiven that blip.....no guarntees that he will run in this as trainer has suggested a step up might be needed but i really donr think thats the case .....he was travelling beautifully at 2 miles previously and looks perfectly weighted to take a huge part in this if he stands his ground ........currently hes being offered at 55.0!!!on betfair (generally 20/1 shot ) and at that price its worth taking the risk he runs because if he does that price would be spectacular !!!!

sternrubin   5pts win 14/1 lads

charmix   5 pts win 55.0 betfair 

ran the race back through at current weights .....charmix is a non runner but sternrubin is looking a likely starter now .....current ratings show 

sterrubin     99.36

john constable    99.33

war sound    99.27

 

so its looking very likely that the outcome of this race could hinge on the race that sternrubin last ran ....he beat john constable by 4 lengths but that one has a huge weight pull this time and has to have a good chance of reversing form .....couple that with last 10 winners having finished top 2 recently and the fact that they have a distinct class advantage in grd 3 and they look very good bets ......18.0 available on john constable on betfair .....thats a fab price ......ill go extra 5 pts on sterrubin at 12/1   and 10 ts  on john constable for a big payout at 18.0

sterrubin 5 pts win 12/1 generally  (already backed 5 pts at 14/1)

10 pts win john constable 18.0 betfair 

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Betfair Hurdle

 

Verdict:

Lots in with a chance as you would expect, I’m going with the trends and supporting a couple of 5yo’s who are rated below 140. The first is Zarib from the Dan Skelton yard, he was 4th at Wincanton in good company before running on when it was all too late last time out at Ascot. This track will suit better and is a C/D winner and I think he’s still well handicapped on 134. I saw Agrapart win easily at Aintree in December and was really impressed by the way he handled the very soft ground that day. His third in the Tolworth could turn out to be a fair run and is nicely handicapped on that run. I respect the chances of Blazer if he turns up so soon after his win last week but is poor value at the moment.

Selections:

Zarib EW 20/1Skybet

Agrapart EW 25/1 Bet365

 

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right ......lets have a bash at this race using the hcap ratings we are testing ...curr ent 31 runners 

1 145  144 157     446                                                             17  132  143  157    432

2 150 121  155   426                                                              18  poor

3  146  140 156   442                                                             19 poor

4  poor                                                                                      20  poor

5 poor                                                                                    21 poor

7 140 139 155    434                                                            22 132  141  155    428

8  130  111  159    poor                                                      23  125  150 155   430

9  poor                                                                                  24  poor

10 135   151  155    441                                                         25  123  141  155   419

11  poor                                                                             26    125  149  153   427

12 poor                                                                            27  poor

13 poor                                                                           28  125  149  160   434

14 131  149 154   434                                                      29  poor

15 138  152 158    448                                                       30  124  150 156   430

16 poor

thats the base ratings done .....ill be back in a sec to apply some trends ...see if it can crack this race 

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1 hour ago, richard-westwood said:

right ......lets have a bash at this race using the hcap ratings we are testing ...curr ent 31 runners 

1 145  144 157     446                                                             17  132  143  157    432

2 150 121  155   426                                                              18  poor

3  146  140 156   442                                                             19 poor

4  poor                                                                                      20  poor

5 poor                                                                                    21 poor

7 140 139 155    434                                                            22 132  141  155    428

8  130  111  159    poor                                                      23  125  150 155   430

9  poor                                                                                  24  poor

10 135   151  155    441                                                         25  123  141  155   419

11  poor                                                                             26    125  149  153   427

12 poor                                                                            27  poor

13 poor                                                                           28  125  149  160   434

14 131  149 154   434                                                      29  poor

15 138  152 158    448                                                       30  124  150 156   430

16 poor

thats the base ratings done .....ill be back in a sec to apply some trends ...see if it can crack this race 

right ......lets see if we narrow this down .....horses  25 to 30 are currently not in race  reserves so omitted     leaving 24 runners 

of those 24   ....12-14 are ranked poor  virtually halving the field !!! to 10 decent horses 

14/14 winners had finished in top 2 on one of last 2 runs ...that rules out 22 and 23 ....leaving 

1  2  3 7  10  14  15 17 

last 8 winners were 5 or 6 yr olds ...theres been a 7 yr old  ...last one over 7 was 2004 so cheltenian 1  is omitted leaving 7 

2  3 7 10 14 15 17 

the only horses to carry more than 11-2 to victory had won a hcap posting an rpr of 150 + lto  2 and 7 fail 3 is war sound and he rated 149 lto so technically fails but qualifys as danger 

leaving 4 horses  10 14 15 17 

currently ratings are as follows     

forest bihan        448  

sternrubin      441 

mad jack mitton   434  

john constable    432  

well thats a fab set of results as ive already backed sternrubin and john constable !!!!............only surprise is this top rated whos currently 25/1!!...with bet365 .......i mean at first glance he looks out of it having only placed at class 3 !!!...but in this race that doesnt matter as lightly raced low rated horses have done well in the past but i read yesterday that brian ellison said that this horse forest bihan is the best horse he has ever fielded for the betfair hurdle and he expects him in time to go on to big things ......me thinks an addition to the team is needed ..... 5 pts win forest bihan 25/1 bet365 .......done ...lol

technically war sound only failed by 1 pt so isnt that bad and has chances but on balance of trends hes too high in weights but can be left in if you prefer ....its just a guide to value really 

http://www.racinguk.com/news/article/40798/willie-mullins-dominates-betfair-hurdle-contenders

 

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On 9 February 2016 at 01:04:33, BillyHills said:

Betfair Hurdle

 

Verdict:

Lots in with a chance as you would expect, I’m going with the trends and supporting a couple of 5yo’s who are rated below 140. The first is Zarib from the Dan Skelton yard, he was 4th at Wincanton in good company before running on when it was all too late last time out at Ascot. This track will suit better and is a C/D winner and I think he’s still well handicapped on 134. I saw Agrapart win easily at Aintree in December and was really impressed by the way he handled the very soft ground that day. His third in the Tolworth could turn out to be a fair run and is nicely handicapped on that run. I respect the chances of Blazer if he turns up so soon after his win last week but is poor value at the moment.

Selections:

Zarib EW 20/1Skybet

Agrapart EW 25/1 Bet365

 

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