fintron Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Took 4/1 ante-post for Stacelita and she is still 7/2 with Paddypower and Stan James which seems a good price in the Filly and Mare Turf tonight. She's been over the US for many months now and won well in a Grade 1 contest at Belmont last month, winning nicely by two lengths. Is at her best on grass and any juice in the ground will be ideal considering her French roots and previous form. Group 1 Longchamp winner Nahrain is probably the danger under Frankie and has to be respected but I prefer Stacelita as she's been out here for a while and is perhaps the safest bet to reproduce her best form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2shoes Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA HANNON JNR ISSUES APOLOGY http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=racing/11/11/05/RACING_Hannon.html&BID=465 Good Luck - Sir Richard Hughes, Good Luck Goldikova. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaker1 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA heres a link for the races if anyones intrested http://www.elahmad.com/tv/swf/dubairacing.swf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2shoes Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Am going to need one of these again for my fingers, aint now confident with Strong Suit at all. Am getting to auld for this shit lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaker1 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA should have said if the screens green when you click on the link just f 5 it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKI Punter Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA 8:45 Churchill Downs Sea Moon 2pt win - 9/2 (Ladbrokes) Sarafina 1pt win - 5/2 (Bet365) Await the Dawn 0.5pt win - 8/1 (Ladbrokes) Sea Moon deserves another chance after being given a poor ride in the Leger. Was hugely impressive despite having the race run to suit in the Great Voltigeur over this trip, so is worth another try. He's very lightly raced and appears versatile in regards to ground. Sarafina has to be the danger given her high class form with countless group one performers, though I've always thought she's a bit overrated, the opposition here certainly aren't up to a huge amount over this trip. Await the Dawn although badly outpaced at York (and apparently ill afterwards), has to have another chance over 1m4f. Loves good/firm ground, and although winning over Harris Tweed is his only form over this trip, it was soft that day and he made up ground well on it and is value for further, especially considering HT is a front runner. I backed St Nic in the Arc but it's obvious he was flattered from a good draw and having the run of the race where few got into it. Midday always finds one or two better against the colts, and though she's been remarkably consistent, I don't want to back her at 6/1. Not sure about the American horses but I'll stick with the Euros on turf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switzerland Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Really don't know much about the form but did a few accumulator bets to keep interest for the night. Great tv. 1) Sarafina Place, Union Rags Win, Gio Ponti Place, Havre De Grace Place. 2) Sarafina Place, Union Rags Win, Goldikova Win, Havre De Grace Place. Havre De Grace looks like a filly with less question marks than most - surface, distance, in form, draw etc. So at 9/2 looks worth an each way. I'll be cheering Goldikova all the way but Gio Ponti at 8/1 looks a decent each way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidymac Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA I have backed in 2 of the huge races this year , had Danedream @ 25/1 and had Red Cadeaux e/w @ 50/1, so im going to go at it again and put a lump down tonight!! (even though i know jack shit about american racing) But looking at the form and videos over a few times there are 2 horses that stand out like a sore thumb and i feel that one of them is too big a price not to have a bet on e/w... I think Havre De Grace and To Honor And Serve both have superb chances in this race and i think a lot of people have overlooked To Honor And Serve.. I am having a big e/w bet on To Honor And Serve, this horse will be in the Top 2 or 3 throughout the race wanting a fast pace up top and should be able to pick up late and make the frame, and i think it has a winning chance... Absolutely hacked up at Saratoga two starts back, winning by 8 and 1/4 lengths and last time out won very easily too and had 2 of tonights runners behind, Ruler On Ice and Rattlesnake Bridge. Trainer William Mott is in scintillating form with 4 winners from his last 8 runners and he has won 2 of his last 3 races at Churchill Downs. When Lezcano rides for him at Churchill Downs he is 2/2, a 100% win record... Lezcano has won his last 3 rides at Churchill Downs... The big danger seems to be Havre De Grace who is winning races with real ease and to me looks the biggest danger to my selection... 12/1 IS MASSIVE!! To Honor And Serve - Churchill Downs 11:00 E/W @ 12/1 Bet365 Havre De Grace - Churchill Downs 11:00 WIN @ 9/2 Ladbrokes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA I don't like this US coverage..........it's all human interest back-stories that are not interesting enough to me It's like the X-Factor or the BBC coverage of the Grand National - :loon And last night's and the early racing today has not been very good - hardly any European horses and that ugly dirt track Oh well - the meeting proper starts now and lasts for 4 races !............:clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA I don't like this US coverage..........it's all human interest back-stories that are not interesting enough to me It's like the X-Factor or the BBC coverage of the Grand National - :loon And last night's and the early racing today has not been very good - hardly any European horses and that ugly dirt track Oh well - the meeting proper starts now and lasts for 4 races !............:clap Very impressive tun of foot by Caleb's Posse in the last don't you think Trot? Sprouted wings in the last 1/2F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Yeah, impressive win...........it's just that it doesn't mean anything to me without horses I've heard of to put it in context It's like watching Ukrainian League football............:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Oh well...........despite what I've said I'm currently leading a competition elsewhere in which we had to pick one horse in each race over the two days and you got 10, 5 and 2 points for the win and places Four races left Here's my last 4....... Sarafina Dullahan Goldikova So You Think Come on my horses !.............:nana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bathtime For Rupert Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Go Sarafina! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bathtime For Rupert Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Pathetic gallop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Phew...........everyone else up the top of the table was on Sarafina as well.......I got away with that one !............:nana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markysimmo Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Aiden does it again, young Joseph seems to be a good jockey.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Aiden does it again' date=' young Joseph seems to be a good jockey..[/quote'] 5 foot 11..........and 9 stone..........I think it's going to be a short but brilliant career ! :clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidymac Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA 5 foot 11..........and 9 stone..........I think it's going to be a short but brilliant career ! :clap No Trotter, he is going to be heading over the jumps soon so im told! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Yeah, I guess he will............I was meaning his Flat career ! Maybe he'll just become 'Assistant trainer'......they were saying that he already does some assistant trainer duties in the business.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidymac Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Yeah, I guess he will............I was meaning his Flat career ! Maybe he'll just become 'Assistant trainer'......they were saying that he already does some assistant trainer duties in the business.......... Oh definately.. They are a very close-knit clan, its a big family business, if i were Joseph i would pack it in once i get too big and work for Daddy and make a packet, im sure hes already making a packet already! No point in him risking his life over them fences when you can stay at home and make a fortune! :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmywords Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Just arrived from a night out and all I will say is O Brien yard is not far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmywords Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Talk about after vthe moment I will say a month ago I said he will come together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmywords Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA By the way I have seen no American racin yet or backed any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmywords Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA I thought Stront Suit was the value for so long. Changed my mind backed the other youngster Zoffany Ew last minute wish me luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2shoes Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA I thought Stront Suit was the value for so long. Changed my mind backed the other youngster Zoffany Ew last minute wish me luck. Good Luck fella. Should be on paper a cracker of a race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmywords Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Cheers Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidymac Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Cheers Jim. Have you had 1 too many tonight mate? :loon Im here sipping gin on the rocks all evening! Cant beat it watching the races.. :loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Have you had 1 too many tonight mate? :loon Im here sipping gin on the rocks all evening! Cant beat it watching the races.. :loon Yuk the smell of gin is enough to make me :puke i'm on the Bud:nana god bless the yanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2shoes Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Good times man, we get spoiled these days. Us and Them always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidymac Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Re: The Breeders Cup - USA Yuk the smell of gin is enough to make me :puke i'm on the Bud:nana god bless the yanks for that. I have Cork Dry Gin, Gordons and Bombay Sapphire in the press.. Me favourite drink!! Currently on the Bombat Sapphire, half the bottle gone since 5pm, hope the rest will be gone before i go to bed! Will down the lot in one go if i get the winner at 11pm :loon Budweiser? You may as well get your knob and piss into your mouth, tastes the same! :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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