western skies Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Friday 30 September 2011HomeDrawAwayBPP Aberdeen v Dunfermline Athletic (19:45 BST) 2 3.5 4.3 101.83 % Saturday 1 October 2011HomeDrawAwayBPP Dundee United v Motherwell (15:00 BST) 2.25 3.45 3.55 101.60 % Inverness Caledonian Thistle v St Mirren (15:00 BST) 2.6 3.3 3 102.10 % Kilmarnock v St Johnstone (15:00 BST) 2.28 3.3 3.5 102.73 % Rangers v Hibernian (15:00 BST) 1.22 7.2 19.5 100.84 % Sunday 2 October 2011HomeDrawAwayBPP Hearts v Celtic (12:45 BST) 6 3.85 1.75 99.78 % Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellarmy Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct First post folks. I am a Motherwell fan and reckon that Dundee United are good value on Saturday to win. On our last three league visits to Tannadice we've been beaten 3-0,2-0 and 4-0 in May. Our recent form has been poor to say the least, although we beat Aberdeen on Saturday defensively we have looked very shaky and i would expect United to exploit our backline. United possess some pace going forward in Swanson and Russell, with our centre back pairing of Craigan and Clancy they should have a field day. Offensively we are pretty decent but our main striker Higdon won't win much in the air against Kenneth on Saturday so i don't see where the goals are going to come from for us. Tip; Bet Dundee United to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennox Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct :welcome wellarmy Good to see another new face in the SPL thread. Just so you know, you'll be asked to post up the bookmarker and odds for your tips - but otherwise your write-up is fine mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthethings Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct See yesterday's thread. Kilmarnock-St. J overs are a play. :ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerouali lives Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct My 1st post of the forum. Aberdeen fan and I've done well backing against my team this year, EVS for Motherwell last week seemed a good price for example Will avoid Friday nights game though as anything can happen there. Not scored a goal away from home yet so always back against us away at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennox Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct :welcomeZerouali lives Not great times for your boys, eh? How you could do with a player like Zerouali these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerouali lives Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Cheers pal. Aye, he was one of the few you'd actually pay to watch when he was on his game. The writing has been on the wall for us since the pre season. I think we're actually gonna be in a relegation battle this season and not even the fans will be able to save this time like they did in 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennox Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct A full weekend's worth of SPL investments for me ... Hearts v Celtic: Celtic (-0.75AH) @ 1.943 with Pinnacle (7/10) Tynecastle has haunted Celtic on several occasions over the past few seasons, but I'm confident that won't be the case this time round. Neil Lennon's men will most likely be 10 points behind Rangers come kick-off on Sunday, and have no choice but to put their foot to the floor. There's no doubt in my mind that Celtic are several classes above their opponents, and the style Hearts have adopted under Paulo Sergio shouldn't inflict too much damage on Celtic's weak spots, especially if he persists with Stephen Elliott as the lone striker. He was so isolated against St Johnstone last week, he might as well have been sitting in the stand. It's usually a physical encounter when Celtic visit Tynecastle, and Hearts could expect more joy from the approach. But if this is a football match (ie with the ball on the deck) then I can't see past the visitors. Ibrox apart, they've been playing some slick football in recent weeks and, you know, it's a simple reason, but they've just got better players all over the park. I can't see any individual battles they're likely to lose. Dundee United v Motherwell: Over 2.5 goals @ 1.952 with Pinnacle (4/10) I remember taking this exact bet near the end of last season when United ran out easy 4-0 winners. Don't expect it to be that one-sided this time round, but what should be an entertaining game could be full of goals. Both sides have looked much better in recent weeks going forward than they have at the other end. United, for example, drew 3-3 twice, and during one of them at Hibs last week, their centre-halves looked to be towing caravans whenever they were turned. Motherwell have similar problems. The wheels have come off a little bit after a fine start and I'm not reading too much into last week's clean sheet (it was against an Aberdeen side yet to score on away soil this season). United have the tools to trouble the unconvincing partnership of Craigan and Clancy. And a little something for the SPL's first foray into Friday night football... Aberdeen v Dunfermline: Dunfermline (+0.5AH) @ 2.03 with 188Bet (2/10) I won't deny a lot of this is based on instinct, but I just think an awful start to the season for the Dons is going to get even worse. They really do not have a lot going for them. The defence is charitable, the midfield is non-existent and the strikers couldn't hit a donkey's arse with a frying pan. Now, in recent weeks the Pars haven't been much better - they've been shipping goals like they're going out of fashion - but at least there is a togetherness about them, which isn't something you can say for Aberdeen. Their away form has been decent (wins over Dundee Utd and St Johnstone) and perhaps getting away from East End Park might do them some good. A home clash against a side their fans expect to beat might be the last thing Aberdeen need right now. A sloppy start or a few misplaced early passes, and the crowd will be on top of them. The Dons, for me, are carrying too much weight on their shoulders to produce a performance and I can't see them getting more than a point. Good luck if you play :ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Readies Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Inverness CT v St Mirren Once again I will be taking the same bet that has proved very profitable the last 4 or 5 rounds of matches and that is both teams not to score in a match invloving St Mirren. This has paid off in 7 of the away sides 9 matches so far so I will hopefully continue to squeeze more money out of this bet tomorrow. The Buddies found their shooting boots last week putting three past Kily which was uncharacteristic of their form in front of goal from their past games. I saw ICT at Celtic Park last week and they failed to score despite a shambolic display by our Centre halfs and Goalkeeper. I'll be hoping goals will be at a premium again tomorrow. Selections: Both teams to score? No. @ 1.9 with PaddyPower - 2 units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dak Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Aberdeen - Dunfermline: Aberdeen @ 1.91 (Coral) 10/10 The odds are acceptable, I think, for Aberdeen's win. Both Aberdeen and Dunfermline are in poor form and sit at or near the bottom of the table with Aberdeen in 11th place (6 points) and Dunfermline in 9th place (9 points). Aberdeen's only win has come at home against Inverness (2-1). Its last home match was a draw (2-2) against Kilmarnock. Clearly, Aberdeen is poor at the moment and needs points. It has a good chance to get a win against Dunfermline given that the guests are also playing poorly at the moment and have lost three out of their last 4 matches. I think the home advantage will be decisive here in giving Aberdeen a much needed win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennox Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Aberdeen v Dunfermline: Dunfermline (+0.5AH) @ 2.03 with 188Bet (2/10) Aberdeen 4-0 Dunfermline - LOSS Hmmm, fair to say that didn't go quite to plan. Here's hoping for a better weekend. Perhaps, in hindsight, with it being a mainly instinctive and small bet, I shouldn't have posted it as a tip, so apologies to anyone who followed. Dak - well played mate, good call :clap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dak Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Hearts - Celtic: Hearts or Draw (Double Chance) @ 2.25 (Boylesports) 10/10 I think the odds (1.65-1.70) for Celtic's win are a bit short and this may be a good match to oppose the away team. Hearts has been solid at home so far with a 3-0-1 record. Celtic has a 6-0-2 overall record, including a 0-1 home loss to St Johnstone, and a 3-0-1 away record with the loss coming against Rangers. This may be a difficult match for Celtic given the fatigue from Thursday's Europa League match against Udinese where they drew 1-1 at home. Hearts have collected points in 5/8 matches and will look to raise their game against one of the league's top teams. The odds are attractive for 2 results given the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dak Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Hearts - Celtic: Hearts or Draw (Double Chance) @ 2.25 (Boylesports) 10/10 I think the odds (1.65-1.70) for Celtic's win are a bit short and this may be a good match to oppose the away team. Hearts has been solid at home so far with a 3-0-1 record. Celtic has a 6-0-2 overall record, including a 0-1 home loss to St Johnstone, and a 3-0-1 away record with the loss coming against Rangers. This may be a difficult match for Celtic given the fatigue from Thursday's Europa League match against Udinese where they drew 1-1 at home. Hearts have collected points in 5/8 matches and will look to raise their game against one of the league's top teams. The odds are attractive for 2 results given the circumstances. Final Result: 2-0 Yes!! :nana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyNF Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Final Result: 2-0 Yes!! :nana Nice one Dak, I'd layed the tims so pleasing all round. :beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennox Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Hearts v Celtic: Celtic (-0.75AH) @ 1.943 with Pinnacle (7/10) Dundee United v Motherwell: Over 2.5 goals @ 1.952 with Pinnacle (4/10) Hearts 2-0 Celtic - LOSS Dundee Utd 1-3 Motherwell - WIN Not the best of weekends, especially when you chuck in Dunfermline the other night. Shame to see Hearts conning their fans again - always seems to mean so much more to them to beat the OF and Hibs than everyone else. They could be such a strong force if they could take the same attitude into every game. Good to have a wee break now with the internationals. Hats off again to Dak. Hope to see more of you in the SPL thread mate. :ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyNF Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Hearts 2-0 Celtic - LOSS Dundee Utd 1-3 Motherwell - WIN Not the best of weekends, especially when you chuck in Dunfermline the other night. Shame to see Hearts conning their fans again - always seems to mean so much more to them to beat the OF and Hibs than everyone else. They could be such a strong force if they could take the same attitude into every game. Good to have a wee break now with the internationals. Hats off again to Dak. Hope to see more of you in the SPL thread mate. :ok Conning their fans by beating Celtic, come on now man!!! It was obvious the way PS sets us up these days isn't the way to go against smaller teams ala ST J who just sit in and look to play on the counter (we don't have players with enough skill to play this way) but is ideal against so called "bigger teams". Think today showed how much Lennon's out of his depth as a manager, he was given a tactical lesson by PS today, but unfortunately for yourselves, the Celtic board and fans seem oblivious to this as he's "sellick minded". You're right though, it's always a joy beating your lot at tynie :clap Hopefully we can get some more Scottish punters posting on the SPL thread. Mon the JTs :cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennox Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct My lot? Who would that be then mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyNF Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct My lot? Who would that be then mate? Whitehill Welfare???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Readies Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Inverness CT v St Mirren Once again I will be taking the same bet that has proved very profitable the last 4 or 5 rounds of matches and that is both teams not to score in a match invloving St Mirren. This has paid off in 7 of the away sides 9 matches so far so I will hopefully continue to squeeze more money out of this bet tomorrow. The Buddies found their shooting boots last week putting three past Kily which was uncharacteristic of their form in front of goal from their past games. I saw ICT at Celtic Park last week and they failed to score despite a shambolic display by our Centre halfs and Goalkeeper. I'll be hoping goals will be at a premium again tomorrow. Selections: Both teams to score? No. @ 1.9 with PaddyPower - 2 units:eyes Bah, suppose the run had to come to an end sometime. Well done Hearts on winning there biggest game of the season yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyNF Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Bah, suppose the run had to come to an end sometime. Well done Hearts on winning there biggest game of the season yesterday. Unlucky mate, I had St Mirren DNB :unsure that's twice this season I've backed against ICT, the other being when they beat Killie, might stay away from the highlanders in future!! You're wrong about the JTs tho, biggest game was spurs then the derby, yesterday was just a pantomime that this fixtures become due to the incessant terrorist love in that spews forth from the roseburn everytime Celtic visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atko Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Unlucky mate, I had St Mirren DNB :unsure that's twice this season I've backed against ICT, the other being when they beat Killie, might stay away from the highlanders in future!! You're wrong about the JTs tho, biggest game was spurs then the derby, yesterday was just a pantomime that this fixtures become due to the incessant terrorist love in that spews forth from the roseburn everytime Celtic visit. It's not like Hearts fans are perfect angels when Celtic visit either, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyNF Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct It's not like Hearts fans are perfect angels when Celtic visit either' date=' is it?[/quote'] Never said they were, but that mainly stems from 3500 punters in the away end chanting "ooh ah up the rah" and other such endearing ditties constantly for 90mins, hospitalising ball boys by chucking coins at them and a new low on sunday...booing, jeering and abusing an u12 youth team doing a lap of the pitch at half time. Not to mention gobbing on pensioners collecting for the poppy appeal, attacking stewards, robbing kiosks in the concourse, and other assorted scummy behaviour. Anyway, good result yesterday. Here's to a profitable season :ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atko Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Never said they were, but that mainly stems from 3500 punters in the away end chanting "ooh ah up the rah" and other such endearing ditties constantly for 90mins, hospitalising ball boys by chucking coins at them and a new low on sunday...booing, jeering and abusing an u12 youth team doing a lap of the pitch at half time. Not to mention gobbing on pensioners collecting for the poppy appeal, attacking stewards, robbing kiosks in the concourse, and other assorted scummy behaviour. Anyway, good result yesterday. Here's to a profitable season :ok Sadly, all the things you mention about Celtic's fans are very true. Scottish football is in a bit of a state when you look at the behaviour of fans. And I'm not just talking about Celtic and Hearts, who although have nasty elements to their support, are not alone in that: Hibernian, Aberdeen and Rangers can be just as bad. I disagree with the notion from others that Hearts only raise their game for the Old Firm. It's not as simple as that. Paulo Sergio wants Hearts to play a brand of football that isn't compatible with a lot of the current squad, especially with his strikers. Guys like Adrian Mrowiec, Ian Black and Eggert Jonsson are not creative, slick movers of the ball, and Mehdi Taouil is far too inconsistent to be a constant source of creativity. At least yesterday, Sergio realised that he had to (a) stop Hooper playing in the hole and (b) flood the midfield and boss it, because Beram Kayal and Scott Brown were missing for Celtic. He gave up his quest for sexy football with a more industrial prototype better suited to his players and it worked a treat, as it has done in the past. He also made sure David Templeton saw a lot of the ball and that helped too. Hearts will beat most teams in this division at home. I don't think they've conceded a domestic goal at Tynecastle under Sergio (I could be wrong about that). They are very resolute in Gorgie and will bully teams, frustrate them and intimidate them. Until Sergio gets his own brand of player, they should continue to play in a more aggressive manner. It's on the road where they must improve. They haven't won under Sergio away and he needs to get a system that works away from Tynecastle. They play Dunfermline away in two weeks time and that might be the time to back them, as I reckon he's clever enough to work out the failings. All, of course, if Vladimir Romanov keeps his nose out of things ... :lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthethings Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct See yesterday's thread. Kilmarnock-St. J overs are a play. :ok And so they were. Another SPL overs at better than 2.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennox Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct This is probably the busiest SPL thread we've had all season and the last game finished 30 hours ago! Good insight on Hearts, Atko. I wasn't being entirely serious when I spoke of them conning their fans. It does just seem at times there's a much greater desire when they play the OF and Hibs than when they face up to rest. Sure, you could say that about a few SPL teams, and that can just be human nature, but it's a shame for Scottish football's sake that they - with a squad as highly paid and talented as they are in relation to most other clubs - can't find that consistency week in, week out. I hope Paulo Sergio is willing to be as flexible when it comes to taking on the "lesser lights" because, sadly, Barca-style football just doesn't cut the mustard in this country. Their trip to Dunfermline in a fortnight's time will tell us a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyNF Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Sadly, all the things you mention about Celtic's fans are very true. Scottish football is in a bit of a state when you look at the behaviour of fans. And I'm not just talking about Celtic and Hearts, who although have nasty elements to their support, are not alone in that: Hibernian, Aberdeen and Rangers can be just as bad. I disagree with the notion from others that Hearts only raise their game for the Old Firm. It's not as simple as that. Paulo Sergio wants Hearts to play a brand of football that isn't compatible with a lot of the current squad, especially with his strikers. Guys like Adrian Mrowiec, Ian Black and Eggert Jonsson are not creative, slick movers of the ball, and Mehdi Taouil is far too inconsistent to be a constant source of creativity. At least yesterday, Sergio realised that he had to (a) stop Hooper playing in the hole and (b) flood the midfield and boss it, because Beram Kayal and Scott Brown were missing for Celtic. He gave up his quest for sexy football with a more industrial prototype better suited to his players and it worked a treat, as it has done in the past. He also made sure David Templeton saw a lot of the ball and that helped too. Hearts will beat most teams in this division at home. I don't think they've conceded a domestic goal at Tynecastle under Sergio (I could be wrong about that). They are very resolute in Gorgie and will bully teams, frustrate them and intimidate them. Until Sergio gets his own brand of player, they should continue to play in a more aggressive manner. It's on the road where they must improve. They haven't won under Sergio away and he needs to get a system that works away from Tynecastle. They play Dunfermline away in two weeks time and that might be the time to back them, as I reckon he's clever enough to work out the failings. All, of course, if Vladimir Romanov keeps his nose out of things ... :lol Agree with a lot of what you say Atko, at the moment we just don't have the players to play the way PS wants us too. Vlad was probably right to punt JJ when you look at the results we've had since the start of the year but the timing was bizarre to say the least!! PS has to be allowed a couple of transfer windows to get in his own players as the squad he's inherited is pretty workmanlike at best with a lot of dead wood and journeymen. We'll definately improve if we keep Jonsson in the centre of the park (his best position) and start trying to play football in the final third instead of across our own 18 yard line. Time will tell. This is probably the busiest SPL thread we've had all season and the last game finished 30 hours ago! Good insight on Hearts, Atko. I wasn't being entirely serious when I spoke of them conning their fans. It does just seem at times there's a much greater desire when they play the OF and Hibs than when they face up to rest. Sure, you could say that about a few SPL teams, and that can just be human nature, but it's a shame for Scottish football's sake that they - with a squad as highly paid and talented as they are in relation to most other clubs - can't find that consistency week in, week out. I hope Paulo Sergio is willing to be as flexible when it comes to taking on the "lesser lights" because, sadly, Barca-style football just doesn't cut the mustard in this country. Their trip to Dunfermline in a fortnight's time will tell us a lot. To be honest Lennox, in my 25 years of following Hearts, we've always struggled against teams we're expected to beat, Scottish mindset maybe! I'd say now that away to Dunfermline is probably a banker on the unders, we won't score more than once! Out of interest mate, who do you support? Are you a hibbee :spank Joke man, don't want to antagonise anyone, we're all here for the same thing...pump the bookies!! Peace :cigar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennox Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct To be honest Lennox, in my 25 years of following Hearts, we've always struggled against teams we're expected to beat, Scottish mindset maybe! I'd say now that away to Dunfermline is probably a banker on the unders, we won't score more than once! Out of interest mate, who do you support? Are you a hibbee :spank Joke man, don't want to antagonise anyone, we're all here for the same thing...pump the bookies!! Peace :cigar I'm a Queen's Park fan. Grew up near Hampden, and used to go to most games, but haven't been so much since I moved to Edinburgh. Hope to see you around for the next lot of SPL games - definitely need some more regular tipsters round here! :ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABhoyInBerlin Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct Never said they were, but that mainly stems from 3500 punters in the away end chanting "ooh ah up the rah" and other such endearing ditties constantly for 90mins, hospitalising ball boys by chucking coins at them and a new low on sunday...booing, jeering and abusing an u12 youth team doing a lap of the pitch at half time. Not to mention gobbing on pensioners collecting for the poppy appeal, attacking stewards, robbing kiosks in the concourse, and other assorted scummy behaviour. Anyway, good result yesterday. Here's to a profitable season :ok As opposed to the sectarian bile coming from the home end, the anti-catholic/irish racism, including the booing of a minutes silence of the Pope a few years back at Hampden, songs about being up to your knees in fenian blood. The last time we played there our manager, funnily an Irish Catholic was attacked as a result of the hostility in the home end. And what happened as a result, yes the away supports allocation was cut. Instead of being ashamed of their actions, Hearts fans actually had masks celebrating the scumbag. Also singing songs about child abuse when ironically they have a player who has been in the newspaper recently for doing exactly that, did Hearts sack this player immediately, no they allowed him to go on as normal until public pressure became too much and he was farmed off to Kaunas on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyNF Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct I'm a Queen's Park fan. Grew up near Hampden, and used to go to most games, but haven't been so much since I moved to Edinburgh. Hope to see you around for the next lot of SPL games - definitely need some more regular tipsters round here! :ok Mon the Spiders eh!! Refreshing to hear a fan from Glasgow who doesn't support one of the OF :D I'll definately stick around bud, though dunno how much use my tips will be haha, every little bit of info helps though! As opposed to the sectarian bile coming from the home end' date=' the anti-catholic/irish racism, including the booing of a minutes silence of the Pope a few years back at Hampden, [b']songs about being up to your knees in fenian blood. The last time we played there our manager, funnily an Irish Catholic was attacked as a result of the hostility in the home end. And what happened as a result, yes the away supports allocation was cut. Instead of being ashamed of their actions, Hearts fans actually had masks celebrating the scumbag. Also singing songs about child abuse when ironically they have a player who has been in the newspaper recently for doing exactly that, did Hearts sack this player immediately, no they allowed him to go on as normal until public pressure became too much and he was farmed off to Kaunas on loan. As I've said earlier in the thread, not wanting to get into too much of a slanging match as this is a betting forum first and foremost not a fans forum, but I'd like to make a few points. One song (Hello Hello, which is hardly sung anymore, and not once on sun) contains one line that some fans sing, the majority sing Hibbe blood, not pleasant but there you go. Lennon wasn't attacked (by one lone nutter in a crowd of 17k) because he's an Irish Catholic, it's because he's a tw@t who does everything he can to wind up and antagonise everyone in Scottish football. Funnily enough, Martin O'Neil (also a Catholic from Northern Ireland) was never attacked, abused etc when visiting Tynie and was actually respected by the Hearts support. Weird huh if we're all knuckle dragging bigots?? You fail to mention at the same match when Lennon was attacked, the away fans rioting in the stand, hospitalising stewards, robbing the kiosks, fighting the police, throwing coins at ball boys resulting in a 12 year old spending a night in the infirmary, and a full 90minute repertoire of "party songs". Think that may have been more of a reason for your allocation being cut. Regarding Craig Thomson, yeah he was an idiot and deserved to be punished but sending a picture of your wanger to a 15 year old girl (Thomson was 19 at the time) is hardly comparable to the systematic abuse and rape of young boys carried out by Celtic youth team coaches (Jim Torbett) and the subsequent cover up. Bit of perspective, no? Finally, I was at the game at Hampden when the silence was booed. It was also booed the previous day at the semi between Hibs and Dun Utd by both sets of fans. There was no need for that silence, what has the pope got to do with Scottish football?? Distasteful...yes. But lets not pretend it was just Hearts fans. The immediate aftermath was also met with universal chanting in your end of "dirty orange b*s*a*ds". It's not like Celtic fans have never booed silences for the Queen mother and annually on Remembrance day, a silence to commemorate the millions who have lost theirs lives in futile wars across the globe from all races and religions. And who can forget the cringeworthy banner on show by the "Green Brigade" saying "no blood stained poppies on our shirt". Classy. Anyway, this forum aint the place for this discussion so lets just leave it there and get on with the important business of making some money!! See you all in a couple of weeks :cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase82 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Re: Scotland > Weekend > SPL > 30 Sept-2 Oct and......I'm closing the thread because we all know where this is going ;) :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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