ultravires Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Friday 23 September 2011 Home Draw Away BPP VfB Stuttgart v Hamburger SV (19:30 BST) 1.62 4.5 6 100.62 % Saturday 24 September 2011 Home Draw Away BPP 1. FSV Mainz 05 v Borussia Dortmund (14:30 BST) 4 3.75 2.03 100.93 % Borussia Mönchengladbach v 1. FC Nürnberg (14:30 BST) 2.15 3.65 3.8 100.22 % FC Augsburg v Hannover 96 (14:30 BST) 3.2 3.6 2.46 99.68 % FC Schalke 04 v SC Freiburg (14:30 BST) 1.43 5.1 9 100.65 % VfL Wolfsburg v 1. FC Kaiserslautern (14:30 BST) 1.92 3.75 4.75 99.80 % FC Bayern München v Bayer 04 Leverkusen (17:30 BST) 1.37 5.8 10 100.23 % Sunday 25 September 2011 Home Draw Away BPP 1. FC Köln v 1899 Hoffenheim (14:30 BST) 3.15 3.6 2.4 101.19 % Werder Bremen v Hertha BSC (16:30 BST) 1.93 3.85 4.5 100.01 % Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGurv Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September German Soccer 2011-2012 1W-3L-0P -2.11 units (25.00%) Stuttgart -171 to win 1 unit @ 5dimes High odds, but I think well worth it and I am willing to take the risk. Hamburg is playing like ass so far this season and they are terrible on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_men Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September VfB Stuttgart @ 1.63 Pinnacle Betfair I will try not to overthink this too much. So far Hamburger have been one big dissapointment. There was a lot of question marks about Hamburger before the season began as they sold out half of the squad, but i guess nobody predicted that they will perform so badly.... in 6 games they have earned only one point (5 losses and 1 draw). It wasn't surprise that the head coach Michael Oenning was sacked and I just don't see that things would go better for them in the near future. Stuttgart on other hand are playing pretty well lately, at home they have 2 wins and 1 loss..... 3-0 against Hannover and Schalke and only a small loss against Leverkusen. If they want to fight for the top spots in Bundesliga then these kind of games are a ''must win''. Hamburger has 1-10 goal difference in away games and playing in Mercedes-Benz Arena won't make things brighter for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jompy Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September the odds for home win are too short IMO, and I see another good option here, as BTS is rated better and seems as safer option to me 1.73 @ Stan James both to score Also both teams got goal/goal option in 3 of their last 4 meetings... Head-to-head: Stuttgart - Hamburg Stuttgart Hamburg 3:0 23.04.2011 Hamburg Stuttgart 4:2 27.11.2010 Stuttgart Hamburg 1:3 13.02.2010 Hamburg Stuttgart 3:1 12.09.2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC4Life Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September German Soccer 2011-2012 1W-3L-0P -2.11 units (25.00%) Stuttgart -171 to win 1 unit @ 5dimes High odds, but I think well worth it and I am willing to take the risk. Hamburg is playing like ass so far this season and they are terrible on the road. They have to improve at some point, right??? I like Stuttgart too in this one but the price isn't great - will double them up with someone else :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC4Life Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September Hannover 96 look like a good price considering Augsburg have looked poor this season, although Hannover have slipped in the recent fortnight following an impressive flurry of 2-1 victories. Will be expecting goals between Koln and Hoffenheim :hope Not touching Dortmund with their wretched form even if I do expect them to get back to winning ways this weekend against a tough Mainz side. I think I will double Stuttgart up with Wolfsburg :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPee Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September HSV ah0 @4,45 Unibet tooo high odds on the asian handicap 0. i think they won't lose today. they will play with one of the best offense in the whole league. moreover after last two near-term coach changes they won easily. i think stuttgart, with bruno labbadia, is a good oppenent to fight back and to get the first three points this season with cardozo as their coach. cardozo normally is the coach of the U-23-Team in the regionallliga. with nominating talents like sören bertram he put new fire in the team and a lot of motivation too. so for me stuttgart isn't a banker and if you knew bundesliga, you wouldn't play these odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOTTI3 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September Augsburg - Hannover = both teams to score (1.66) bet365 Augsburg position 17° points 3 Hannover position 5° punti 11 Preview: Augsburg: injured: Marcel Ndjeng (midfielder 4 / 0), Dawda Bah (midfielder 1 / 0), Stephan Hain (striker 1 / 0), Torsten Oehrli (striker 0 / 0), Paul Verhaegh (defender 3 / 0); Suspended: Sebastian Langkamp (defender 2 / 0). Hannover: injured: Leon Andreasen (midfielder 0 / 0), Moritz Stoppelkamp (striker 5 / 0), Mohammed Abdellaoue (striker 4 / 3), Carlitos (midfielder 0 / 0); Suspended: Artur Sobiech (striker 1 / 0); in doubt: Markus Miller (goalkeeper 0 / 0). The Augsburg has a score of w0-d3-l3 goals scored 6 goals against 12 while Hanover has a score of w3-d2-l1 goals scored 8 goals against 8. The Augsburg has not won a game so far, has problems both in the defensive department, where he has just 12 goals in six matches at an average of 2 goals per game and in the offensive department, where they often lack the ideas and have scored a goal per game. The Hanover has started the season well, make the counter-attack the best weapon. In the end I think this is a game with a lot of actions to goals. :hope:hope:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOTTI3 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September M'gladbach - Nuremberg = 1 (2.10) / Under (1.80) bet365 M'gladbach position 3° points 13 Nuremberg position 8° points 10 Preview: M'gladbach: injured: Roel Brouwers (defender 5 / 0). Nuremberg: injured Daniel Didavi (midfielder 1 / 0), Raphael Schaefer (goalkeeper 2 / 0), Rakovsky Patrick (goalkeeper 2 / 0), Per Nilsson (defender 0 / 0); absent: Mike Frantz (midfielder 0 / 0). The M'gladbach has a score-w4-d1-l1 goals scored 8 goals against 3 while the Nuremberg has a score of w3-d1-l2 goals scored 6 goals against 6. The home team is one of the bright spots in the Bundesliga, not only for the results obtained so far for the game but also highlighted bubbly. The M'gladbach has become a defensive team that makes the department one of the strengths of the team with only three goals conceded, not perforated second defense of the championship. The Nuremberg is a tricky team, which makes the defensive his best weapon so it is difficult to tackle. So I think this is a game with few actions to goals. :hope:hope:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPLouis Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September M'gladbach - Nuremberg = 1 (2.10) / Under (1.80) bet365 The home team is one of the bright spots in the Bundesliga, not only for the results obtained so far for the game but also highlighted bubbly. I like this part of your preview :clap (Also agree that Gladbach look good value - they have looked really impressive and I would have expected their odds to be a bit lower) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livestrong Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September What are people's thoughts on the game between FC Koln and Hoffenheim? Looking at an away win... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPLouis Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September VfB Stuttgart @ 1.63 Pinnacle Betfair I will try not to overthink this too much. So far Hamburger have been one big dissapointment. There was a lot of question marks about Hamburger before the season began as they sold out half of the squad, but i guess nobody predicted that they will perform so badly.... in 6 games they have earned only one point (5 losses and 1 draw). It wasn't surprise that the head coach Michael Oenning was sacked and I just don't see that things would go better for them in the near future. Stuttgart on other hand are playing pretty well lately, at home they have 2 wins and 1 loss..... 3-0 against Hannover and Schalke and only a small loss against Leverkusen. If they want to fight for the top spots in Bundesliga then these kind of games are a ''must win''. Hamburger has 1-10 goal difference in away games and playing in Mercedes-Benz Arena won't make things brighter for them. Result: Stuttgart 1 Hamburg 2 I saw some of this. Neither side particularly impressed me. Stuttgart seemed to dominate the first half, and lead 1-0 at half time. But they didn't really stamp their authority on the game. Hamburg equalised from a corner just after half time. After that Stuttgart had most of the play, but Hamburg took the lead a few minutes later and managed to hold it without too many problems, although they did have to make a few good blocks in defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dak Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September Mainz - Dortmund: Dortmund @ 2.00 (Bet365) 10/10 Mainz has lost 3 out its last 4 matches and has lost its two last home matches so there isn't anything in the most recent performances that they will get any points in this match. Dortmund has stumbled at the beginning of the season and has collected only 7 points in 6 matches, but Dortmund does have a meaningful advantage in terms of roster quality and should be able to defeat an out of sorts Mainz team. The odds aren't spectacular but fair given the difference in quality. Gladbach - Nurenberg: Gladback @ 2.10 (william Hill) 10/10 This is a good price for Gladbach's win. The hosts have a 4-1-1 overall record and a 2-1-0 home record. Gladbach has kept 3 clean sheets in 6 matches and defeated Bayern Munich. Nurenberg has a sound overall record of 3-1-2 and a sound away record of 2-0-1. However, Nurenberg's points have come largely against weaker opposition. They were lucky to get a 1-1 draw against Werder Bremen last weak given that they had a 1 man advantage from the 17th minute and actually fell behind 0-1. Gladbach should win here and the odds are worth the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPLouis Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September Gladbach - Nurenberg: Gladback @ 2.10 (william Hill) 10/10 This is a good price for Gladbach's win. The hosts have a 4-1-1 overall record and a 2-1-0 home record. Gladbach has kept 3 clean sheets in 6 matches and defeated Bayern Munich. Nurenberg has a sound overall record of 3-1-2 and a sound away record of 2-0-1. However, Nurenberg's points have come largely against weaker opposition. They were lucky to get a 1-1 draw against Werder Bremen last weak given that they had a 1 man advantage from the 17th minute and actually fell behind 0-1. Gladbach should win here and the odds are worth the risk. FT: 1-0 I saw some of the game. I thought Gladbach probably deserved to win although there wasn't much in it. Gladbach just seemed to have a bit extra in attack and that lead to the penalty which won it for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kukacomone Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September What are people's thoughts on the game between FC Koln and Hoffenheim? Looking at an away win... Quite tricky game if you ask me. Köln performed well last round, but Hoffenheim looks strong this year. Firstly, I thought about goals, but odd is low. Now, I am thinking about Köln not to lose, but I have to think this over tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dak Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September Cologne - Hoffenheim: Hoffenheim @ 2.40 (Stan James) 10/10 The odds are very good for Hoffenheim's win, I think. Hoffenheim has a good overall record of 4-0-2 and 2-0-1 away record with a 12:5 goals differential overall. The two away wins came against Augsburg and Mainz which are both teams at Cologne's level. Cologne has an overall record of 2-1-3 and a 0-1-2 home record with a 11:15 goals differential overall. The hosts' defense is poor. Cologne's two wins (both away) came against hapless Hamburg and Leverkusen which was probably a freak result (1-4). Hoffenheim is well organised defensively and is certainly able to score. I think the odds are well worth the risk for Hoffenheim's win given the match up. Werder Bremen - Hertha: Werder Bremen @ 1.85 (Unibet) 10/10 The odds are fair for Werder's win, I think. Werder has a good 4-1-1 record overall and a 3-0-0 home record with a 12:6 goals differential overall. Hertha's performance hasn't been that bad. The guests have a 2-3-1 overall record and a 1-2-0 away record with a 8:7 goals differential overall. I believe that Hertha has been a bit lucky and is probably overachieving. At Hamburg they drew (2-2) in the 88'. At Hannover they drew (1-1) in the 83'. At home they won (1-0) against Stuttgart in the 86'. Hertha's last match, at home, was a 2-2 draw against Augsburg which is one of the weakest teams in the league. I believe Werder has the better roster and is in good form to be able to get the win here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livestrong Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 FC Koln vs. Hoffenheim I don't know much about the Bundesliga, but Hoffenheim have started extremely well this season. They've won five of their six games, losing only to Werder Bremen. FC Koln have seven points from their opening six games. Koln have struggled badly at the back, conceding 12 goals. They are coming of the back of an impressive 4-1 win against Bayer Leverkusen and that victory will give them some confidence coming into this match. I think Hoffenheim will have enough quality to overcome FC Koln tomorrow, but I'm going into this with a minimum stake. 1 Unit - Hoffenheim to win @2.29. Paddy Power. :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicko Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September IMO the game Cologne should be avoided, both here and in Weekend Bets I only see punters picking Hoffenheim to win. Hosts might look worse in the table, but they are a sporadic team and you never know with them - on a good day the forwards they have can create havoc with any defense. Hoffe so far look neat and very disciplined, especially in the middle, but I can't trust them at 2,30-2,35, these odds are no value in Germany with almost level teams... Werder looks a better pick IMO, strong enough at home. I read in a post above that Hertha have been very lucky winning points in the end. Lucky - in the casino, the team fights to the end, in all examples given above somehow the win at Dortmund is not mentioned? I see Hertha scoring, but I think Werder will deliver a strong steady home performance and win, maybe by one goal... GL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus corax Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September I see both matches in Bundesliga ending without a winner. Cologne didn't found a form yet, but think they will manage to keep one point. Hoffenheim is good team, but can't see them winning here. Both great teams, maybe Werder with all youngsters is more dangerous, but Hertha's form is also great, so small stakes on draw. Sorry for short text, don't have much time and reasons, except... Strong feelings a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dak Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September IMO the game Cologne should be avoided' date= both here and in Weekend Bets I only see punters picking Hoffenheim to win. Hosts might look worse in the table, but they are a sporadic team and you never know with them - on a good day the forwards they have can create havoc with any defense. Hoffe so far look neat and very disciplined, especially in the middle, but I can't trust them at 2,30-2,35, these odds are no value in Germany with almost level teams... Werder looks a better pick IMO, strong enough at home. I read in a post above that Hertha have been very lucky winning points in the end. Lucky - in the casino, the team fights to the end, in all examples given above somehow the win at Dortmund is not mentioned? I see Hertha scoring, but I think Werder will deliver a strong steady home performance and win, maybe by one goal... GL Cologne - Hoffenheim: From Cologne's record of 2-1-3 it appears that their "good" days have happened 50% of the time while their "bad" days are the other 50%. Hoffenheim's record of 4-0-2 indicates that they have "good" days 66% of the time. Hence, I would think that odds of 2.30-2,35 are fine. Hertha: One can view Hertha's end of the match achievements as the return on hard fighting until the end of the match or luck....It depends probably on one's overall view of Hertha. Personally, I don't think Hertha is all that good and, therefore, I view it as luck. Hertha's win at Dortmund can also be seen as being fortunate given that it was on 10 September with Dortmund having a Champions League match on September 13. I would argue that if Dortmund and Hertha played the match, without the CL factor, that things may have been different. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzer Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September Hi to all, just some stats about wreder-hertha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1907zico Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September The fact that with Geromel the key defender is out should be considered. Jemal who had agreat debut against Leverkusen on left defense side has been injured in that game and will miss out here so the weak form Eichner has to get in on LDEF. He is potentially not that bad, just running through a rather weak period of play. Newcomer Sereno who was moved on RDEF in the last game is moving back on CDEF to cover Geromels position, I think he is decent but its hard to say he can order the defense with so short time at the club. McKenna next to him is an experienced player being with Köln for years but overall he isnt really quality as well. Right defense position remains a questionmark as Sereno has to move on center position. The most logical adjustment would be to move back Riether on RDEF (he played it all the way for Wolfsburg) and put in Lanig on defensive Midfield. Doing so, I think they could repair the damage done by Geromel pretty okay. Coming to Hoffenheim, I think they have an absolutely great forward row with Obasi, Babbel, Firminho to start with. They never cover the same position and rotate so much making it difficult to defend. Sigurdsson returned last week from his injury, starting for 60 minutes. I think he will start again and its a guy who can deliver the right passes and he adds additional danger from set pieces. Salihovic is still a miss, but they are compensating it a bit more defensive with youngster Kaiser now, just because ever since Salihovic is missing Sigurdsson is back who is interprating his role more offensive than Johnson (who got injured just when Sigurdsson came back as well) so the balance is more or less kept the same in midfield here. I have got a goal lean here, I think Cologne is improving in defending but having to change the defense so often cannot help to bring the Solbakken tactic on the pitch. Then again they own offensive qualities which they can play out on a good day, Hoffenheim is capable of scoring as usual but they can be naiv at times as shown against Wolfsburg where they concede the 2:1 out of nowhere to just finish the match off 3:1 lateron. I think the price is a bit high to bet pre match, but if we have a look into the game for a few minutes I think we should be capable of catching a fair price. If you ask me about the handicapping, well Hoffenheim would be my lean but I think they are running a bit too high right now and the price is adjusted pretty fair already. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOTTI3 Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September Cologne-Hoffenheim=both teams to score (1.57) / over (1.65) bet365 Cologne position 13° points 7 Hoffenheim position 4° points 12 Preview: Cologne: injured: Geromel (defender 6 / 0), Petit (midfield 0 / 0), Jemal (defender 1 / 0); Suspended: Brecko (defender 5 / 0). Hoffenheim: injured: Vedad Ibisevic (striker 0 / 0), Sejad Salihovic (midfielder 4 / 3), Matthias Jaissle (defender 0 / 0), Boris Vukcevic (midfielder 0 / 0), Manuel Gulde (defender 0 / 0), Tobias Weis (midfielder 0 / 0), Fabian Johnson (defender 5 / 0). The Colony has a score of w2-d1-l3 11 goals scored 11 goals against 15 while Hoffenheim has a score of w4-d0-l2 goals scored 12 goals against 5. The Colony has had a disappointing start, the last game away to Bayer Lev. won with a score of 1-4. The Colony has a very careless and shaky defense see the 15 goals conceded in six games. Hoffenheim are the Gladbach with the revelation of the season. Their defense is very solid and has a strong attack. Both teams play attacking football and bubbly. :hope:hope:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOTTI3 Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September Werder-Hertha = 1 (1.83) / over (1.61) bet365 Werder Bremen position 3° points 13 Hertha position 11° points 9 Preview: Werder: Suspended: Tim Wiese (Goalkeeper 6 / 0); injured: Sebastian Boenisch (defender 0 / 0), Mikael Silvestre (defender 0 / 0), Denni Avdic (striker 0 / 0), Onur Ayik (midfielder 0 / 0), Borowski (midfielder 0 / 0), Sokratis (defender 6 / 0). Hertha: injured: Nico Schulz (midfielder 0 / 0). Bremen has a score-w4-d1 l1 goals scored 12 goals against 6 Hertha has a score of w2-d3-l1 goals scored 8 goals against 7. Werder obtained after the draw with ten men in the house of Nuremberg has highlighted the state of the team's form and its qualities. I think the league will play a high-ranking fighting for the top positions. Hertha with new purchases is trying to go back, they have a solid defense and a great counter-attack with the likes of Ramos and Raffael. The visiting team is still unbeaten away from home. I think that Werder have to do the match and instead will try to Hertha advantage with his best weapon is the counter-attack. At the end of class superiority and Werder will come out. So I predict a victory for the home team with several networks. Quote of the sign over 1 and a decrease of several books. :hope:hope:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicko Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September Cologne - Hoffenheim: From Cologne's record of 2-1-3 it appears that their "good" days have happened 50% of the time while their "bad" days are the other 50%. Hoffenheim's record of 4-0-2 indicates that they have "good" days 66% of the time. Hence, I would think that odds of 2.30-2,35 are fine. Hertha: One can view Hertha's end of the match achievements as the return on hard fighting until the end of the match or luck....It depends probably on one's overall view of Hertha. Personally, I don't think Hertha is all that good and, therefore, I view it as luck. Hertha's win at Dortmund can also be seen as being fortunate given that it was on 10 September with Dortmund having a Champions League match on September 13. I would argue that if Dortmund and Hertha played the match, without the CL factor, that things may have been different. :ok @dak I do respect your opinion, I have seen some heavy ''hits'' by you here, and one thing is certain - you watch the games, don't just do a quick check on recent stats and go for a pick...I have no bet on this game for one reason - odds too low IMO on guests. Myb choice maybe would have been Goal/Goal, but Cologne delivered a bigger surprise with a clean sheet on top of the win. So I guess I am lucky I avoided it. Onto Werder, where in general I agree with your pick, although while writing this they already scored ( Hertha that is )...:loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicko Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September With my jinx Werder will need 2 more players sent off to win that game :@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzer Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Re: Germany - Bundesliga - 23-25 September Hi to all, just some stats about wreder-hertha stats are correct,over 2,5,werder to win,BTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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