justbetter Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Curiosity has been getting to me lately and I wanted to see if laying teams could hold its own in a proper system compared to "Draw No Bets" or straight winners (1x2). The purpose of this thread will be to use the picks from my laying thread and put them into three separate banks, one for each type of bet. Each bank will have 100 points and each bet will be 10% of the bank. This will be worked out before each bet. All lays will be with betfair and all other bets will use the best odds I can find. The bookmaker will be posted. THIS IS A PAPER TRIAL Stay Tuned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? i'd have thought that the dnb's/laying would be better in one bank, but simply looking at which odds are better value as they return the same outcome? EDIT - still in holiday mode - mistaking dnb's with double chance bets :wall interesting to see the comparison - not exactly paper trialled like this, but most of my betting these days is layign rather than betting on. good luck :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newestpunter Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? draw no bets are more proftable bets but i guess if you factor in occasional draws where your bank is not growing (whereas the same result would yield an increase in the laying bank) then it might work out to be a similar figure in terms of growth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? Time will tell i spose 1. Helsingborgs vs Trelleborgs with the home team being backed in the three ways 1x2 Bank 10 points at 1.5 Balance 90 DNB Bank 10 points at 1.17 Balance 90 Lay Bank 10 points laying at 10.26 (odds I got matched at on Betfair) Balance 90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? As a note the 10 points on the laying bank is the liability not the payout if you catch my drift EDIT Also completely forgot to say the bookmakers. The 1x2 bet is with Skybet and the DNB is Stan James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? Interesting comparison, will watch :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? Well Helsingborgs squandered a 2-0 lead and it finished 2-2 1x2 Bank Balance £90 DNB Bank Balance £100 Lay Bank Balance £101.08 Wins 0 Draws 1 Losses 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? 2. Trelleborgs at home to Djurgardens with the home team being backed 1x2 Bank 9 points at 2.08 with Betfair DNB Bank 10 points at 1.44 with bet365 Lay Bank 10.11 points at 4.3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackJarvis Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? Very good comparison mate, should provide interesting stats over time. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? A thought: Wouldn't it be a more "correct" comparison if the odds were taken from the same bookie/exchange? :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? I'm not sure to be honest. This experiment is really to see which system would work best and I think if I were to run one of these systems it would be using the best odds I could find. Though I agree if it were just a pure comparison of the 3 methods of betting rather than the systems it would be more "correct" to use the same bookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? I'm not sure to be honest. This experiment is really to see which system would work best and I think if I were to run one of these systems it would be using the best odds I could find. Though I agree if it were just a pure comparison of the 3 methods of betting rather than the systems it would be more "correct" to use the same bookie. You're right, there's a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? 2-0 Trelleborg 1x2 Bank Balance £99.72 DNB Bank Balance £104.40 Lay Bank Balance £104.14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newestpunter Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? lol - aha so you're a "before the eggs hatch chicken counter" finished 3-0 lol good one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? so I am. How much stoppage time was there in that game?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtw1 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? Hope you manage to keep this going for a good while jimmah it should be interesting to see how the 3 compare over time . Good Luck mate :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newestpunter Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? dunno about stoppage time, 3rd goal came in the 77th minute anyway, nice going so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? really?! Then my internet connection is terrible as I was not told about that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? Hope you manage to keep this going for a good while jimmah it should be interesting to see how the 3 compare over time . Good Luck mate :ok Thanks. I intend to keep it going for as long as the Laying Football Selections thread has money in it and at the rate its currently going that could be a long, long time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? 3. Bohemians at home to Drogheda with the home team backed 1x2 Bank 9.97 points at 1.3 with Victor Chandler DNB Bank 10.44 points at 1.09 with William Hill Lay Bank 10.41 points at 19.87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? 1-0 Bohemians 1x2 Bank Balance £102.71 DNB Bank Balance £105.34 Lay Bank Balance £104.69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? 3. Wolfsburg at home to Werder Bremen with the home team backed 1x2 Bank 10.27 points at 1.44 with multiple bookies DNB Bank 10.53 points at 1.17 with 888Sport Lay Bank 10.47 points at 8.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? 5-1 Wolfsburg 1x2 Bank Balance £107.23 DNB Bank Balance £107.13 Lay Bank Balance £106.14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? 4. Bordeaux vs Monaco with the home team backed 1x2 Bank 10.72 points at 1.25 with multiple bookies DNB Bank 10.71 points at 1.08 with Boyle Sports Lay Bank 10.61 points at 21.22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? 1-0 Bordeaux 1x2 Bank Balance £109.91 DNB Bank Balance £107.99 Lay Bank Balance £106.66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? 5. Nurnbeg vs 1860 Munchen with the home team backed 1x2 Bank 10.99 points at 1.48 with Betfair DNB Bank 10.80 points at 1.14 with William Hill Lay Bank 10.67 points at 9.77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooloovoo Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? 1x2 in the lead but just.... good luck today jimmah :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? Thanks HLV 2-1 Nurnberg 1x2 Bank Balance £115.19 DNB Bank Balance £109.50 Lay Bank Balance £107.88 Wins 5 Draws 1 Losses 0 (just realised I got the numbering wrong and had two number 3s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? 7. Young Boys vs Luzern home team backed 1x2 Bank 11.52 points at 2.06 with Betfair DNB Bank 10.95 points at 1.4 with bet365 Lay Bank 10.79 points at 4.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbetter Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Re: 1x2, DNB or Lays...which is most profitable? 5-2 Young Boys 1x2 Bank Balance £127.40 DNB Bank Balance £113.88 Lay Bank Balance £111.36 Wins 6 Draws 1 Losses 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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