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Re: Boxing: Mayweather v Hatton - Dec 8th I really fancy Hatton to win this but can't see him doing it on points. If it does go that far it will probably be Floyd who wins the match. Saying that though it is a Golden Boy Promotion and the De La Hoya V Hatton would be a sell out over here. Hatton also acknowledges that it will depend on how close he is allowed to get by Joe Cortez as he will be looking to get inside, rough him up and unload those wicked body shots. I think the Mayweather camp have underestimated Hatton, people saying he has a punchers chance, he is not some bum like Hasim Rahman or Oliver McCall who closes his eyes and unloads power shots, he is accurate and will be looking to put Floyd under pressure. He doesn't like pressure and may be fast but he only has the confines of the ring to try and avoid Hatton. Will be a cracker, really looking forward to it and if it gets to the later stages it will be really exciting. Also thinking about going to the casino to watch it and I think the fight is due to start at about 3.45am in the UK. Not sure what time the casino closes as it goes into Sunday hours etc, thought it was about 4am.

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Re: Boxing: Mayweather v Hatton - Dec 8th I'm having a look at a price on SportingBet what does anyone think about this one. Hatton to win fight on points by a split decision. 16-1. Only a couple of quid mind but with these big audience events do you think they'll make it controversial by having a split decision?

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I'm having a look at a price on SportingBet what does anyone think about this one. Hatton to win fight on points by a split decision. 16-1. Only a couple of quid mind but with these big audience events do you think they'll make it controversial by having a split decision?
Everyone seems to think if it goes to points Hatton is not going to take the decision in Floyds back yard. I see where they are coming from but Hatton V De La Hoya with Hatton as champion would sell more than a defeated Hatton V De La Hoya so not too sure. I know Floyd is fast but I think he lacks real power whereas Hatton can really bang as long as he can get close to the cocky cnut. Might be worth a few quid as you say and have not heard anything about rematches being written into any contracts but surely they would demand one if losing on a split decision and another big pay day for both men.
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Re: Boxing: Mayweather v Hatton - Dec 8th Well after being so convinced of a Mayweather win since the fight was announced I'm starting to waver. Not only that I'm starting to think it's not going to go the distance. Like Andy said to me in Birmingham 'Is points going to be enough?', there's so much at stake reputation wise that both fighters will be going all out to see it doesn't get to points. Has Floyd come out of retirement to show the world he doesn't need to run? Has Hatton's quiet confidence that he can get to him drawn FMJ out and made him want to get the job done? Hmmmm, I just don't know anymore. I'm starting to lean towards a little dabble on each fighter by stoppage.

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Well after being so convinced of a Mayweather win since the fight was announced I'm starting to waver. Not only that I'm starting to think it's not going to go the distance. Like Andy said to me in Birmingham 'Is points going to be enough?', there's so much at stake reputation wise that both fighters will be going all out to see it doesn't get to points. Has Floyd come out of retirement to show the world he doesn't need to run? Has Hatton's quiet confidence that he can get to him drawn FMJ out and made him want to get the job done? Hmmmm, I just don't know anymore. I'm starting to lean towards a little dabble on each fighter by stoppage.
I am the sam as PAUL i have even posted a mayweather win here but have now changed my mind! I don't no if its all us wanting RICKY to win. I remember a similar case here in AUSTRALIA not to long ago. I don't no if any of you have heard of Anthony Mundine, but he is just like mayweather in the talking department and 99% of australia hate him. Anyway he was fighting Danny Green in AUSTRALIAS SUPERFIGHT OF THE CENTURY. Now there was the samebetting plunge on danny but i think the only reason we all put money on Danny is because we couldn't cheer for mundine. I ask is this the same case? Is everyone betting on Ricky because he is going to win or is everyone betting on him because they couldn't stand to cheer for Mayweather? Whatever the case i will now be backing the peoples champ RICKY HATTON! PLEASE PLEASE KNOCK THAT LOUDMOUTH OUT RICKY! :hope
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Re: Boxing: Mayweather v Hatton - Dec 8th Whoever you back on this lads have a little saver on the draw. I believe there's a real possibility of this with the rematch being even bigger back in Manchester. A bit of a conspiracy theory it may seem but you never know!

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Whoever you back on this lads have a little saver on the draw. I believe there's a real possibility of this with the rematch being even bigger back in Manchester. A bit of a conspiracy theory it may seem but you never know!
Very very good point there invasor i can just see it now UNDEFEATED 2!
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Re: Boxing: Mayweather v Hatton - Dec 8th Ok, the fight night's nearly upon us and it's time for me to give my view. I have watched everyone of Ricky Hatton's last 22 fights, from his British Title fight against Jon Thaxton onwards. He won that depite suffering terrible cuts which nearly led to him losing the fight, and ever since cuts have been a huge worry for the Hatton camp. However, since that night the cuts haven't reappeared as much as some may have expected, only threatening Hatton's unbeaten record on a couple of occassions. Of course, he is helped by having (as the tv commentators like to remind us) one of the best cutmen in the business, Mick Williamson, in his corner. It's hard to see this being a factor in this fight, especially with referees in America reluctant to stop boxers in big world title fights, and none are bigger than this one. Looking back over Hatton's career now it is arguable that he hasn't fought the best he could have - after that Thaxton fight it took another 7 fights for him to face someone who I believed at the time had any chance of beating him, in Eamonn Magee. Magee looked to have exposed frailties in Hatton with a 1st round knockdown, but Hatton returned to his feet to box the Irishman out of the contest. This fight was a real turning point for Hatton - previously it had been thought my many experts that he was a bit of a slugger, who relied on the knockout punch (in Hatton's case a left-hook to the body), but this showed there was a boxing brain on Hatton's shoulders. A boxing brain that he would subsequently need in a contest against Ben Tackie, arguably his first world-class opponent. After that victory there waas only one man Hatton wanted - Kostya Tszyu. The 2 finally met in June 2005, with most observers expecting the Brit to come up short against a man who many at the time considered to be pound-for-pound the best fight in the world. Helped by a raucous crowd and a lenient referee Hatton pulled off the upset. In hindsight, it probably shouldn't have come as a big surprise - Tszyu had only fought 9 rounds in over 3 years, and was never seen in a ring again. At the time it seemed like a great win, looking back it was the inevitable changing of the guard at the end of a great champion's career. That's not to say it wasn't a great achievement by Hatton - but to beat Tszyu 2 years earlier away from home soil would have been more like the challenge he faces this weekend. Since the Tszyu fight it's been a bit up and down from Hatton - unstylish wins over Maussa, Collazo (a fight I and many others scored in favour of Collazo) and Urango were followed by a much better victory over Castillo - although in fight number 64 and at the age of 33 there are again question marks over whether Hatton fought the best Castillo - I would say with hesitation almost certainly not. Castillo is a man that Mayweather has fought twice - much closer to the peak of the Mexican's career, Mayweather winning 2 close but unanimous points decisions. Some say that Castillo and De Le Hoya are the closest in style to Hatton of any fighter on Floyd's record, and that Hatton should be encouraged by how close those two pushed him. The question is whether Hatton is better than a peak Castillo, or De La Hoya of anytime. Unlike Hatton, Mayweather's record reads like a who's who of boxing at these weights. Corrales, Chaves, Castillo, N'Dou, Corley, Gatti, Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, De La Hoya. He keeps saying it, and it's beginning to bore me now, but Mayweather can beat any style. He also has the advantage of experience - he's been in fights this big before - De La Hoya in terms of the hype, and many others in terms of the quality of opposition. Hatton's seemed calm and focused so far, but how will he be once that first bell goes? We know Mayweather can stand the pressure - can Hatton? It is said that Mayweather came out of "retirement" for this fight - even if that's true it shouldn't be a factor. He's not had the inactivity of someone like Tszyu, he's not had the many gruelling fights of Castillo. He is going to be in great condition, and if Hatton's is to win, he is going to have to do it against a peak Mayweather. The same goes for Floyd. What should make this fight a great spectacle is the styles of the 2 fighters. While Hatton is not the 1-dimensional slugger that Mayweather would like to portray him as, he is a fighter who relies on what some call "intelligent pressure". Hatton will try to back Mayweather up, land 4 or punches, and then tie him up on the inside, before Mayweather has a chance to counter. Mayweather on the other hand tends to rely on defence and counter punching. His defence, for fans of boxing (rather than fighting), is something quite magical to watch. No-one in world boxing comes close right now. And his lightning speed enables him to counter effectively. His power is underated, and with Hatton's chin still relatively untested, a KO victory for Mayweather isn't out of the question. A big talking point so far in the build up to this fight has been how motivated the two men are. From what I've seen, I don't think there is a problem with the motivation of either man - this is one of the biggest fights of all time, neither needs the fame, neither needs the money, it's all about winning. If I had to give a slight edge in this though, I'd have to go for Hatton - Mayweather will go down as one of boxing's all time greats whatever happens in the early hours of Sunday morning. Hatton, if he loses, would purely be remembered as a good fighter, not quite at the top level. I did think that the choice of referee might favour Mayweather - most American referees like a "clean" fight. In other words, Hatton's inside style would be rendered ineffective. But in Joe Cortez they have one of the few world level refs outside Europe who should let Ricky get on with his work. The final factor is Mayweather's hands - the problem with trying to analyse what effect his supposedly fragile hands will have is that no-one really knows if there are actually any problems with them. Therefore we have to assume that all is well. Now onto the important bit. Sadly I personally think the odds are spot on as they are now with regard to outright betting - Mayweather is rightly favourite, but Hatton isn't without a chance. However, I think that if Hatton's going to beat Mayweather it will be on points. Forget all these ex boxers saying that Hatton has to win in 4 - Mayweather's defence is too good to be KOd, especially early, he prides himself on how little he gets hit cleanly. Hatton to win on points @ 5/1 (betfair)

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Re: Boxing: Mayweather v Hatton - Dec 8th Great post Phil :clap You sound like a very knowledgeable Guy on Boxing. I can't wait for this fight! I feel if Ricky has any chance here, he will have to stop Mayweather. Ricky will have to get on top of him as soon as that first bell rings and not let Mayweather duck and weave away from him and counter punch him. Ricky needs to get up close and rough him up to his body right from the start and not let Mayweather get into a rhythm. If Ricky doesn't then I fear Ricky will be stopped with maybe a cut or just plain frustration and exhaustion of trying to get at Mayweather. The first couple of rounds is going to determine who wins here, If Ricky gets at Mayweather early then it will be his for the taking probably inside 10 rounds as anytime after that, (as I have previously posted) I don't think Ricky has a chance if it goes to points! I won't even let a draw enter the equation here as you don't ever see a British fighter and a yank draw and then go on to another big pay day fight! Call it the thinking here as to be British we are naive when it comes to things like another big payday or as somebody put it UNDEFEATED 2!!! whereas if it was between 2 yanks then definitely! a promoters dream! Logic here says it will be Ricky's Title inside 10 anything else and it will be Mayweather's Title. May the Best Man Win! :ok

Ok, the fight night's nearly upon us and it's time for me to give my view. I have watched everyone of Ricky Hatton's last 22 fights, from his British Title fight against Jon Thaxton onwards. He won that depite suffering terrible cuts which nearly led to him losing the fight, and ever since cuts have been a huge worry for the Hatton camp. However, since that night the cuts haven't reappeared as much as some may have expected, only threatening Hatton's unbeaten record on a couple of occassions. Of course, he is helped by having (as the tv commentators like to remind us) one of the best cutmen in the business, Mick Williamson, in his corner. It's hard to see this being a factor in this fight, especially with referees in America reluctant to stop boxers in big world title fights, and none are bigger than this one. Looking back over Hatton's career now it is arguable that he hasn't fought the best he could have - after that Thaxton fight it took another 7 fights for him to face someone who I believed at the time had any chance of beating him, in Eamonn Magee. Magee looked to have exposed frailties in Hatton with a 1st round knockdown, but Hatton returned to his feet to box the Irishman out of the contest. This fight was a real turning point for Hatton - previously it had been thought my many experts that he was a bit of a slugger, who relied on the knockout punch (in Hatton's case a left-hook to the body), but this showed there was a boxing brain on Hatton's shoulders. A boxing brain that he would subsequently need in a contest against Ben Tackie, arguably his first world-class opponent. After that victory there waas only one man Hatton wanted - Kostya Tszyu. The 2 finally met in June 2005, with most observers expecting the Brit to come up short against a man who many at the time considered to be pound-for-pound the best fight in the world. Helped by a raucous crowd and a lenient referee Hatton pulled off the upset. In hindsight, it probably shouldn't have come as a big surprise - Tszyu had only fought 9 rounds in over 3 years, and was never seen in a ring again. At the time it seemed like a great win, looking back it was the inevitable changing of the guard at the end of a great champion's career. That's not to say it wasn't a great achievement by Hatton - but to beat Tszyu 2 years earlier away from home soil would have been more like the challenge he faces this weekend. Since the Tszyu fight it's been a bit up and down from Hatton - unstylish wins over Maussa, Collazo (a fight I and many others scored in favour of Collazo) and Urango were followed by a much better victory over Castillo - although in fight number 64 and at the age of 33 there are again question marks over whether Hatton fought the best Castillo - I would say with hesitation almost certainly not. Castillo is a man that Mayweather has fought twice - much closer to the peak of the Mexican's career, Mayweather winning 2 close but unanimous points decisions. Some say that Castillo and De Le Hoya are the closest in style to Hatton of any fighter on Floyd's record, and that Hatton should be encouraged by how close those two pushed him. The question is whether Hatton is better than a peak Castillo, or De La Hoya of anytime. Unlike Hatton, Mayweather's record reads like a who's who of boxing at these weights. Corrales, Chaves, Castillo, N'Dou, Corley, Gatti, Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, De La Hoya. He keeps saying it, and it's beginning to bore me now, but Mayweather can beat any style. He also has the advantage of experience - he's been in fights this big before - De La Hoya in terms of the hype, and many others in terms of the quality of opposition. Hatton's seemed calm and focused so far, but how will he be once that first bell goes? We know Mayweather can stand the pressure - can Hatton? It is said that Mayweather came out of "retirement" for this fight - even if that's true it shouldn't be a factor. He's not had the inactivity of someone like Tszyu, he's not had the many gruelling fights of Castillo. He is going to be in great condition, and if Hatton's is to win, he is going to have to do it against a peak Mayweather. The same goes for Floyd. What should make this fight a great spectacle is the styles of the 2 fighters. While Hatton is not the 1-dimensional slugger that Mayweather would like to portray him as, he is a fighter who relies on what some call "intelligent pressure". Hatton will try to back Mayweather up, land 4 or punches, and then tie him up on the inside, before Mayweather has a chance to counter. Mayweather on the other hand tends to rely on defence and counter punching. His defence, for fans of boxing (rather than fighting), is something quite magical to watch. No-one in world boxing comes close right now. And his lightning speed enables him to counter effectively. His power is underated, and with Hatton's chin still relatively untested, a KO victory for Mayweather isn't out of the question. A big talking point so far in the build up to this fight has been how motivated the two men are. From what I've seen, I don't think there is a problem with the motivation of either man - this is one of the biggest fights of all time, neither needs the fame, neither needs the money, it's all about winning. If I had to give a slight edge in this though, I'd have to go for Hatton - Mayweather will go down as one of boxing's all time greats whatever happens in the early hours of Sunday morning. Hatton, if he loses, would purely be remembered as a good fighter, not quite at the top level. I did think that the choice of referee might favour Mayweather - most American referees like a "clean" fight. In other words, Hatton's inside style would be rendered ineffective. But in Joe Cortez they have one of the few world level refs outside Europe who should let Ricky get on with his work. The final factor is Mayweather's hands - the problem with trying to analyse what effect his supposedly fragile hands will have is that no-one really knows if there are actually any problems with them. Therefore we have to assume that all is well. Now onto the important bit. Sadly I personally think the odds are spot on as they are now with regard to outright betting - Mayweather is rightly favourite, but Hatton isn't without a chance. However, I think that if Hatton's going to beat Mayweather it will be on points. Forget all these ex boxers saying that Hatton has to win in 4 - Mayweather's defence is too good to be KOd, especially early, he prides himself on how little he gets hit cleanly. Hatton to win on points @ 5/1 (betfair)
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Re: Boxing: Mayweather v Hatton - Dec 8th Interesting to note that over at the offshore books and the Vegas sportsbooks, there's where the best odds for Ricky Hatton are as bettors over there are clamouring to bet on Floyd Mayweather. Reading a few offshore gambling forums and the sharp betting apparently is on Floyd Mayweather. Most posters are convinced Floyd Mayweather will win but some do remark cynically of a possible rematch and how Ricky winning would be better than Floyd winning if that were to happen. Can the draw happen? Well cynically of course it can but apparently Ricky Hatton might be fighting Oscar De La Hoya next. I wouldn't rule out a rematch and as much as Floyd is promoting this I fully believe he wants to beat Ricky Hatton at the first attempt. Where did that 'Floyd's injured his left hand' rumour come from? Surely it wasn't from a few lazy hacks who were disgruntled that Floyd didn't turn up to a publicised training session on Monday!? The fight I expect to see unfortunately is that Floyd will be too quick and as much as Ricky will go chasing him, he won't be able to go inside and that Floyd will push him away and time his punches with his reach and height advantage. I want Ricky to win but fear this is where he becomes unstuck.

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Re: Boxing: Mayweather v Hatton - Dec 8th After changing my mind 100000 times i'm now convinced mayweather will win on points. Try as he may hatton will not be able to knock floyd out. Floyd is just simply to quik to good. As an australian newspaper put it "MAYWEATHER IS THE PICASSO OF BOXING AND HATTON IS JUST A VERY VERY GOOD 3RD YEAR ART STUDENT" MY TIP: FLOYD MAYWEATHER TO WIN ON POINTS BUT AS I SAID BEFORE I'LL HAPPILY LOSE MY MONEY TO SEE MAYWEATHER KNOCKED OUT

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Re: Boxing: Mayweather v Hatton - Dec 8th I think Maywether has seriously undersetimated Hatton here. Although the price on Hatton has dried up and represents absolutely no value - I do still think he has enough to hurt Mayweather, and win on points. The more I read about this match, the more it seems that other people are backing Ricky to win. This will, without a doubt, be a fantastic fight - and looks set to run the distance. I simply cannot see either man being knocked out. Hopefully, Ricky will have enough left in the tank come Rounds 10,11 and 12 to deal with the barrage of punches that Floyd will unleash on him. Could be a fantastic night for British boxing...

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Re: Boxing: Mayweather v Hatton - Dec 8th Right, neck on the line time. Just watched the weigh in, and unless this fight is the biggest dissapointment in history it ain't going the distance. Both fighters are wound up so tight I don't think they'll be able to run if they wanted to. Can't pick a winner unfortunately so for me it's: 4.5pts Mayweather by stoppage (5.5 Totesport) 5 pts Hatton by stoppage (5.0 Totesport) 3.5 pts More than 2 knockdowns (outrageous value IMO) 7.0 Betfred PPV ordered: Check Beers in the fridge: Check Lets get ready to rumble:dude

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Right, neck on the line time. Just watched the weigh in, and unless this fight is the biggest dissapointment in history it ain't going the distance. Both fighters are wound up so tight I don't think they'll be able to run if they wanted to. Can't pick a winner unfortunately so for me it's: 4.5pts Mayweather by stoppage (5.5 Totesport) 5 pts Hatton by stoppage (5.0 Totesport) 3.5 pts More than 2 knockdowns (outrageous value IMO) 7.0 Betfred PPV ordered: Check Beers in the fridge: Check Lets get ready to rumble:dude
What did you think of the weigh in mate, I honestly believe many fights are already won or lost before they step in the ring. Tyson used to intimidate everyone yet when he met Holyfield there was no fear, his frustration boiled over in the ring with the whole ear biting incident. Hatton was so calm I think it really rattled Floyd, can't wait for this fight, it will not be a disappointment, it'll be a fcuking WAR. I heard Floyds camp saying they don't care about all that "body punch bullshit", maybe they'll change their mind when he has broken ribs. I've said all along Hatton will beat him and I can't change my mind now, the top class fighters can raise their game to a different level and tonight is Hattons opportunity to move to the highest level. :ok
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Re: Boxing: Mayweather v Hatton - Dec 8th Hey boys i am only 21 years old and probably have only been following boxing for 5 years so my knowledge limited. Could someone please tell me when the last fight was with this much anticipation around it? Because i realy realy think we are all going to witness one of the greatest fights in the history of this planet!

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What did you think of the weigh in mate, I honestly believe many fights are already won or lost before they step in the ring. Tyson used to intimidate everyone yet when he met Holyfield there was no fear, his frustration boiled over in the ring with the whole ear biting incident. Hatton was so calm I think it really rattled Floyd, can't wait for this fight, it will not be a disappointment, it'll be a fcuking WAR. I heard Floyds camp saying they don't care about all that "body punch bullshit", maybe they'll change their mind when he has broken ribs. I've said all along Hatton will beat him and I can't change my mind now, the top class fighters can raise their game to a different level and tonight is Hattons opportunity to move to the highest level. :ok
I read it pretty much the same way. Same with the press conference on wednesday, Mayweather is rattled. He looks like he wants to rip Hatton's throat out, which can only be a good thing for Ricky. Both times the whole shoving thing was perpetrated by Mayweather because he wanted to pull out of the staring match without losing face. I'm starting to believe Hatton can do it, or at least has a very, very good chance. He's playing it perfectly so far. However Mayweather just can't be ruled out. Either way I'm almost certain this is going to be won by stoppage.
Hey boys i am only 21 years old and probably have only been following boxing for 5 years so my knowledge limited. Could someone please tell me when the last fight was with this much anticipation around it? Because i realy realy think we are all going to witness one of the greatest fights in the history of this planet!
I can't think of one I've looked forward to so much for a while. Maybe Benn/Eubank II or Lewis/Tyson. Certainly domestically at least but even then I can't remember the intenisity reaching the pitch it's at for this fight.
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