staffy Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Re: Lay down and die :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Re: Lay down and die thursdays lays cheltenham 2.00 rasharrow (25/1) 2.35 our vic (7/2) 3.15 inglis drever (5/1) 4.40 gungadu (6/4 fav) hexham 2.15 westgrove berry (5/2 fav) 4.15 supreme breeze (4/1 fav) 4.55 westmorland (10/1) southwell 2.25 desert lover (6/4 fav) 3.00 silver mont (25/1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Re: Lay down and die given the general number of horses per day and that i'm now also wanting to look at a longer period to compare weekend results with weekday results, i will be significantly extending this paper trial - possibly up to around the 500 horses mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archaeus Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Re: Lay down and die thursdays lays cheltenham 2.00 rasharrow (25/1) :eek:eek:eek ffs isnt this too much of a risk?:unsure will keep :hope for you with this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 Re: Lay down and die :eek:eek:eek ffs isnt this too much of a risk?:unsure will keep :hope for you with this one :ok cheers mate - thankfully its only a paper trial at the moment as i've got 2 of them for tomorrow :unsure if it was for real money then then sphincter would be doing over time to the extent that i probably wouldnt put it on, but i want to assess how my selction criteria does over the trial, so each horse goes down on the list regardless of the price. if either of them come in at these prices, my profit plus a bit extra is gone in one swift swoop, so hopefully it'll they'll try to run backwards :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archaeus Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Re: Lay down and die a bit relieved now ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 Re: Lay down and die thursdays lays cheltenham 2.00 rasharrow :dude4th @ 14/1 2.35 our vic :dude 2nd @ 7/2 3.15 inglis drever :spank won @ 5/1 4.40 gungadu :dude fell 2/1 fav hexham 2.15 westgrove berry :dude 2nd 3/1 jt-fav 4.15 supreme breeze :dude 3rd @ 3/1 fav 4.55 westmorland :dude 7th @ 9/1 southwell 2.25 desert lover :dude 3rd @ 5/4 fav 3.00 silver mont :dude 5th @ 20/1 :dude rasharrow was miles away in 4th :lol:unsure;) :spank inglis drever - got in the car after uni to find the race already on and they said it was last :nana - then does a fcuking ben johnson on speed spoiling what would've been a perfect day here :@ - but its still a profit on the day :D todays profit - 8x10pts = 80pts :dude todays losses - 50pts :@ todays overall return - +30pts :nana OVERALL STATS Number of Horses Laid: 95 Number of Horses That Won: 19 Number of Horses That Placed: 26 Number of Horses Finishing Out of Placings: 38 Non-Runners: 12 Total Profit Returned: 640pts Total Losses: -466.16pts Overall Profit/Loss: +173.84pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Re: Lay down and die Profit on the day is the name of the game. Well done. Keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Re: Lay down and die Well done again Ali. :clap Profit on the day is the name of the game. Well done. Keep up the good work. I agree with Staffy, but without wishing to sound pernicikty, I'd say that laying at these prices profit on the month is the name of the game. :) And one other point (that I'm sure you're aware of anyway) the proof of the pudding may only come when you start paper trading at actual betfair lay prices rather than SP's. But it looks very encouraging so far. Keep it up. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 16, 2007 Author Share Posted March 16, 2007 Re: Lay down and die cheers lads yeah i agree hodgey - betfair prices will likely be higher, and its getting matched and then sorting profits etc but if i cn record a high profit by SPs then the potential is there, hopefully. and profit at the end of the month will be the bigger picture, as at these prices a bad day could wipe a weeks profits out. i'll probably paper trail to end of april/may - have a uni assignment to hand in in may, so may look at this for real money once thats done and dusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 16, 2007 Author Share Posted March 16, 2007 Re: Lay down and die havent got time for this over the next few days as on nights but will continue start of next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share Posted March 18, 2007 Re: Lay down and die monday lays wincanton 4.00 petit lord (3/1 fav) 3.00 warlord (5/4 fav) southwell 4.50 our kes (2/1 fav) market rasen 4.40 bennythejets (8/1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 19, 2007 Author Share Posted March 19, 2007 Re: Lay down and die monday lays wincanton 4.00 petit lord :dude 3rd @ 4/1 fav 3.00 warlord :dude fell @ 10/11 fav southwell 4.50 our kes :dude 4th @ 13/8 fav market rasen 4.40 bennythejets :dude 3rd @ 9/1 :D todays profit - 4x10pts = 40pts :dude todays losses - nil :nana todays overall return - +40pts :dude OVERALL STATS Number of Horses Laid: 99 Number of Horses That Won: 19 Number of Horses That Placed: 28 Number of Horses Finishing Out of Placings: 40 Non-Runners: 12 Total Profit Returned: 680pts Total Losses: -466.16pts Overall Profit/Loss: +213.84pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 19, 2007 Author Share Posted March 19, 2007 Re: Lay down and die tuesdys lays exeter none southwell 4.30 hamaasy 5/1 5.00 kew the music 3/1 fav warwick 3.40 jupon vert 7/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share Posted March 20, 2007 Re: Lay down and die tuesdys lays exeter none southwell 4.30 hamaasy :dude 3rd @ 4/1 fav 5.00 kew the music :dude 4th @ 7/2 warwick 3.40 jupon vert :dude 5th @ 9/1 :) todays profit - 3x10pts = 30pts :dude todays losses - nil :nana todays overall return - +30pts :dude OVERALL STATS Number of Horses Laid: 102 Number of Horses That Won: 19 Number of Horses That Placed: 29 Number of Horses Finishing Out of Placings: 42 Non-Runners: 12 Total Profit Returned: 710pts Total Losses: -466.16pts Overall Profit/Loss: +243.84pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Re: Lay down and die Easy :clap Easy :clap Easy :clap You shuddupppppppp!!! Well done again Ali. Nice one. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share Posted March 20, 2007 Re: Lay down and die cheers hodgey. wensday lays chepstow 3.15 ebony jack 2/1 fav 3.45 iris's prince 5/1 4.20 purple patch 13/2 kempton 2.00 zar solitario 2/1 jt-fav 3.05 lord chamberlain 10/1 3.35 king of charm 5/1 4.40 scuba 7/1 5.10 annamasse 7/2 fav lingfield 2.50 lindop 7/2 fav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Lay down and die cheers hodgey. wensday lays chepstow 3.15 ebony jack :dude 4th @ 11/4 3.45 iris's prince :dude 2nd @ 3/1 jt-fav 4.20 purple patch :dude 2nd @ 10/1 kempton 2.00 zar solitario :spank won @ 5/2 3.05 lord chamberlain :dude 12th @ 12/1 3.35 king of charm :spank won @ 4/1 fav 4.40 scuba :dude 11th @ 7/1 5.10 annamasse :spank won @ 2/1 fav lingfield 2.50 lindop :spank won @ 5/2 fav not such a good day... todays profit - 5x10pts = 50pts :dude todays losses - 25+40+20+25 = -110pts :cry todays overall return - -60pts :@ OVERALL STATS Number of Horses Laid: 111 Number of Horses That Won: 23 Number of Horses That Placed: 31 Number of Horses Finishing Out of Placings: 45 Non-Runners: 12 Total Profit Returned: 760pts Total Losses: -576.16pts Overall Profit/Loss: +183.84pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Re: Lay down and die thursday lays ayr 4.50 shares 10/1 ludlow 2.00 marvellous dream 11/10 fav 4.00 island light 4/1 fav southwell 5.10 three boars 9/4 fav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 Re: Lay down and die thursday lays ayr 4.50 shares :cry won @ 13/2 ludlow 2.00 marvellous dream :dude PU @ 15/8 fav 4.00 island light N/R southwell 5.10 three boars :dude 3rd @ 6/5 fav over 100pts lost in 2 days :(:sad todays profit - 2x10pts = 20pts :dude todays losses - -65pts :cry todays overall return - -45pts :@ OVERALL STATS Number of Horses Laid: 115 Number of Horses That Won: 24 Number of Horses That Placed: 32 Number of Horses Finishing Out of Placings: 46 Non-Runners: 13 Total Profit Returned: 780pts Total Losses: -641.16pts Overall Profit/Loss: +138.84pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 Re: Lay down and die fridays lays lingfield 4.15 woodygo 6/1 newbury 3.50 pyleigh lady 6/1 4.25 scots grey 13/8 fav 5.00 fleet street 5/1 wolves 1.50 norweigan 5/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 23, 2007 Author Share Posted March 23, 2007 Re: Lay down and die fridays lays lingfield 4.15 woodygo :dude 5th @ 8/1 newbury 3.50 pyleigh lady :spank won @ 4/1 fav 4.25 scots grey :spank won @ 9/4 fav 5.00 fleet street :spank won @ 9/2 fav wolves 1.50 norweigan :spank won @ 11/4 fav this was the type of day i'd be dreading :cry todays profit - 1x10pts = 10pts :dude todays losses - 40+22.5+45+27.5=135pts :puke :cry todays overall return - -125pts :@ OVERALL STATS Number of Horses Laid: 120 Number of Horses That Won: 28 Number of Horses That Placed: 32 Number of Horses Finishing Out of Placings: 47 Non-Runners: 13 Total Profit Returned: 790pts Total Losses: -776.16pts Overall Profit/Loss: +13.84pts profit just about completely wiped out in 3 days :sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Re: Lay down and die Ouch. You can turn it around though mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 23, 2007 Author Share Posted March 23, 2007 Re: Lay down and die Ouch. You can turn it around though mate. i'll certainly keep it going and review the whole thing in a couple of months - i've had 3 bad days and remain profit, so thats sommet at least :\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 23, 2007 Author Share Posted March 23, 2007 Re: Lay down and die well after considering whether weekends were worse than weekdays, we have a fcuking awful spell in the week, so hopefully it'll get better with the weekend :unsure bangor 3.20 rowdy yeats 13/8 fav kempton none lingfield 2.10 one more round 8/1 2.40 hurricane spirit 3/1 fav newbury 1.50 capatilise 8/1 2.25 out the black 10/1 2.55 more likely 15/2 3.30 tambourine davis 5/1 fav wolves 9.30 local poet 12/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Re: Lay down and die Stick with it mate. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 24, 2007 Author Share Posted March 24, 2007 Re: Lay down and die well after considering whether weekends were worse than weekdays, we have a fcuking awful spell in the week, so hopefully it'll get better with the weekend :unsure bangor 3.20 rowdy yeats :dude 2nd @ 11/8 fav kempton none lingfield 2.10 one more round :dude 3rd @ 12/1 2.40 hurricane spirit :dude 2nd @ 11/4 fav newbury 1.50 capatilise :dude 7th @ 15/2 2.25 out the black :dude 4th @ 9/1 2.55 more likely :dude PU @ 15/2 3.30 tambourine davis :dude PU @ 4/1 fav wolves 9.30 local poet :dude 2nd @ 9/1 better! now i want that profit returned. todays profit - 8x10pts = 80pts :dude todays losses - nil :ok todays overall return - +80pts :@ OVERALL STATS Number of Horses Laid: 128 Number of Horses That Won: 28 Number of Horses That Placed: 37 Number of Horses Finishing Out of Placings: 50 Non-Runners: 13 Total Profit Returned: 870pts Total Losses: -776.16pts Overall Profit/Loss: +93.84pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 24, 2007 Author Share Posted March 24, 2007 Re: Lay down and die sunday lays kempton 3.20 russian rocket 14/1 3.50 sand repeal 6/1 southwell 4.00 madam harriet 12/1 taunton none gonna start tweaking slightly - this means not including the following horse(s) - i'll keep an eye on these for the time being to see if brings an improvement or not. kempton 5.20 sohraab southwell 2.30 clearly in motion taunton 4.40 swansea bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted March 25, 2007 Author Share Posted March 25, 2007 Re: Lay down and die sunday lays kempton 3.20 russian rocket :dude7th @ 8/1 3.50 sand repeal :dude 3rd @ 13/2 southwell 4.00 madam harriet :dude 6th @ 5/1 taunton none gonna start tweaking slightly - this means not including the following horse(s) - i'll keep an eye on these for the time being to see if brings an improvement or not. kempton 5.20 sohraab :dude 2nd @ 6/4 fav southwell 2.30 clearly in motion :spank won @ 10/11 fav taunton 4.40 swansea bay :dude PU @ 9/2 with the extra filter, i have 3/3 but would've made more profit from not using it - will give it a few weeks before making a decision on it though :ok todays profit - 3x10pts = 30pts :dude todays losses - nil :ok todays overall return - +30pts :@ OVERALL STATS Number of Horses Laid: 131 Number of Horses That Won: 28 Number of Horses That Placed: 38 Number of Horses Finishing Out of Placings: 52 Non-Runners: 13 Total Profit Returned: 900pts Total Losses: -776.16pts Overall Profit/Loss: +123.84pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Re: Lay down and die Nice one Ali. 30pts profit a day would do nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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