bookie2000 Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy I think i´ll stop now, don´t want to disturb this really interesting, good thread any further. I dont find your comments disturbing. the more the merrier :cheers keep posting if possible ok.:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 2, 2007 Author Share Posted March 2, 2007 Thursday, March 1 Results Mike Wynn T1: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Fresno St -4.5 -110 over Boise St LOSER! Score: Boise St/Fresno St 77-78, Lost = 10.00 unitsPlatinum Plays T2: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: George Washington pk +101 over NC Charlotte WINNER! Score: George Washington/NC Charlotte 62-60, Won = 10.10 unitsRazor Sharp T3: 10.50 units on: NCAAB: New Mexico St -10 -105 over Luisiana Tech WINNER! Score: Luisiana Tech/New Mexico St 64-79, Won = 10.00 unitsTotals4U T4: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Memphis -12.5 +121 over UTEP LOSER! Score: Memphis/UTEP 78-67, Lost = 10.00 unitsBig Time T5: 35.224 units on: NBA: LA Clippers/Seattle OVER 199 +113 LOSER! Score: LA Clippers/Seattle 75-77, Lost = 35.224 units#1 Sports T6: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: North Carolina -6 +104 over Georgia Tech LOSER! Score: North Carolina/Georgia Tech 77-84, Lost = 10.00 unitsComputer Sports T7: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Washington St +1.5 -110 over UCLA LOSER! Score: UCLA/Washington St 53-45, Lost = 10.00 unitsEasy Money Sports T8: 10.90 units on: NCAAB: Toledo -11 -109 over Ball State LOSER! Score: Ball State/Toledo 61-71, Lost = 10.90 unitsNevada Sharpshooter T9: 48.552 units on: NCAAB: Washington -2 -119 over USC WINNER! Score: USC/Washington 70-85, Won = 40.80 unitsThe Scout T10: 11.90 units on: NCAAB: Virginia -2 -119 over Virginia Tech WINNER! Score: Virginia Tech/Virginia 56-69, Won = 10.00 units Total: Bets = 10, Won = 4, Lost = 6 Bankroll = -15.224 units ------------ I disagreed very much with the pick for thread 5, but if I do not follow exactly the picks, this would not be a system any more. "Big time" lost twice, back to back, on OVERs on the Clippers/Seattle matchup's totals, he wasn't even close either times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 2, 2007 Author Share Posted March 2, 2007 System total after Thursday System total after Thursday: Bets = 191, Won = 104, Lost = 83, Push = 4 Bankroll = +462.216 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 2, 2007 Author Share Posted March 2, 2007 Friday, March 2 (Day 21) Mike Wynn T1: 11.20 units on: NBA: Utah/Minnesota UNDER 197 -112Platinum Plays T2: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: NC Wilmington +3.5 -101 over Towson StRazor Sharp T3: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Wisc-Green Bay -3 +101 over Youngstown St *Totals4U T4: 12.20 units on: NBA: Golden State/New York OVER 206 -122 (the pick was given for 205.5, but 206 is the most it can be bought down to) Big Time T5: 82.529 units on: NBA: Golden State/New York OVER 207 -110#1 Sports T6: 12.20 units on: NCAAB: Loyola-Chicago -4 -122 over Illinois ChicagoComputer Sports T7: 10.10 units on: NCAAB: Loyola-Chicago -5 -101 over Illinois ChicagoEasy Money Sports T8: 20.694 units on: NCAAB: Wisc-Green Bay -3 +101 over Youngstown St *Nevada Sharpshooter T9: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Wisc-Green Bay -3 +101 over Youngstown St *The Scout T10: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Northern Iowa +1.5 -111 over Bradley * For threads 3, 8 and 9 a single bet is made: 40. 694 units on: NCAAB: Wisc-Green Bay -3 +101 over Youngstown St Total out = 188.923 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trollerboy Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy @ Bookie2000 I could tell you the URL of the tipster, but i don´t want to do advertising here. Can you contact me by private message? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 2, 2007 Author Share Posted March 2, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy @trollerboy Hey mate, I wanted to PM you, but: "trollerboy has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her." So how can I get in touch with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookie2000 Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy yup. same here troller boy couldn't send you the pm any email address? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trollerboy Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy write an email to [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 3, 2007 Author Share Posted March 3, 2007 Friday, March 2 Results Mike Wynn T1: 11.20 units on: NBA: Utah/Minnesota UNDER 197 -112 WINNER! Score: Utah/Minnesota 109-83, Won = 10.00 unitsPlatinum Plays T2: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: NC Wilmington +3.5 -101 over Towson St LOSER! Score: NC Wilmington/Towson St 52-67, Lost = 10.00 unitsRazor Sharp T3: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Wisc-Green Bay -3 +101 over Youngstown St * WINNER! Score: Wisc-Green Bay/Youngstown St 72-55, Won = 10.10 virtual unitsTotals4U T4: 12.20 units on: NBA: Golden State/New York OVER 206 -122 LOSER! Score: Golden State/New York 97-106, Lost = 12.20 unitsBig Time T5: 82.529 units on: NBA: Golden State/New York OVER 207 -110 LOSER! Score: Golden State/New York 97-106, Lost = 82.529 units#1 Sports T6: 12.20 units on: NCAAB: Loyola-Chicago -4 -122 over Illinois Chicago PUSH! Score: Illinois Chicago/Loyola-Chicago 62-66Computer Sports T7: 10.10 units on: NCAAB: Loyola-Chicago -5 -101 over Illinois Chicago LOSER! Score: Illinois Chicago/Loyola-Chicago 62-66, Lost = 10.10 unitsEasy Money Sports T8: 20.694 units on: NCAAB: Wisc-Green Bay -3 +101 over Youngstown St * WINNER! Score: Wisc-Green Bay/Youngstown St 72-55, Won = 20.90 virtual unitsNevada Sharpshooter T9: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Wisc-Green Bay -3 +101 over Youngstown St * WINNER! Score: Wisc-Green Bay/Youngstown St 72-55, Won = 10.10 virtual unitsThe Scout T10: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Northern Iowa +1.5 -111 over Bradley LOSER! Score: Northern Iowa/Bradley 48-51, Lost = 10.00 units * 40. 694 units on: NCAAB: Wisc-Green Bay -3 +101 over Youngstown St WINNER! Score: Wisc-Green Bay/Youngstown St 72-55, Won = 41.101 units Total: Bets = 8, Won = 2, Lost = 5, Push = 1 Bankroll = -73.728 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 3, 2007 Author Share Posted March 3, 2007 System total after Friday System total after Friday: Bets = 199, Won = 106, Lost = 88, Push = 5 Bankroll = +388.488 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 3, 2007 Author Share Posted March 3, 2007 Saturday, March 3 (Day 21) - Round 1 Mike Wynn T1: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Connecticut/Georgetown UNDER 123.5 -111Platinum Plays T2: 11.10 units on: NCAAB: Wisconsin -8.5 -111 over Michigan StRazor Sharp T3: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Rhode Island -3 -105 over RichmondTotals4U T4: - NO FREE PICK TODAY - (it's already given tomorrow's pick)Big Time T5: 165.433 units on: NCAAB: Xavier -12 -105 over Lasalle *#1 Sports T6: 10.90 units on: NCAAB: Washington +3.5 -109 over UCLAComputer Sports T7: 23.115 units on: NCAAB: U Connecticut +12.5 -115 over GeorgetownEasy Money Sports T8: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Xavier -12 -105 over Lasalle *Nevada Sharpshooter T9: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Mississippi -6 -112 over AuburnThe Scout T10: 10.20 units on: NCAAB: Pittsburgh +1 -102 over Marquette * For threads 5 and 8 a single bet is made: 175.433 units on: NCAAB: Xavier -12 -105 over Lasalle Total out = 260.748 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 Re: Saturday, March 3 (Day 21) - Round 2 Mike Wynn T1: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: St Louis +3 +104 over DaytonBig Time T5: 335.908 units on: NCAAB: Pittsburgh +1 -104 over MarquetteComputer Sports T7: 41.553 units on: NCAAB: Texas Tech -2.5 +104 over Iowa StEasy Money Sports T8: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Hawaii -8 +106 over Boise St Total out = 397.461 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 Saturday, March 3 - Round 1 Results Mike Wynn T1: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Connecticut/Georgetown UNDER 123.5 -111 WINNER! Score: Connecticut/Georgetown 46-59, Won = 9.009 unitsPlatinum Plays T2: 11.10 units on: NCAAB: Wisconsin -8.5 -111 over Michigan St LOSER! Score: Michigan St/Wisconsin 50-52, Lost = 11.10 unitsRazor Sharp T3: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Rhode Island -3 -105 over Richmond LOSER! Score: Rhode Island/Richmond 69-71, Lost = 10.00 unitsTotals4U T4: - NO FREE PICK TODAY - (it's already given tomorrow's pick)Big Time T5: 165.433 units on: NCAAB: Xavier -12 -105 over Lasalle * LOSER! Score: Xavier/Lasalle 76-65, Lost = 165.433 virtual units#1 Sports T6: 10.90 units on: NCAAB: Washington +3.5 -109 over UCLA WINNER! Score: UCLA/Washington 51-61, Won = 10.00 unitsComputer Sports T7: 23.115 units on: NCAAB: U Connecticut +12.5 -115 over Georgetown LOSER! Score: U Connecticut/Georgetown 46-59, Lost = 23.115 unitsEasy Money Sports T8: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Xavier -12 -105 over Lasalle * LOSER! Score: Xavier/Lasalle 76-65, Lost = 10.00 virtual unitsNevada Sharpshooter T9: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Mississippi -6 -112 over Auburn LOSER! Score: Auburn/Mississippi 79-83, Lost = 10.00 unitsThe Scout T10: 10.20 units on: NCAAB: Pittsburgh +1 -102 over Marquette LOSER! Score: Pittsburgh/Marquette 71-75, Lost = 10.20 units * 175.433 units on: NCAAB: Xavier -12 -105 over Lasalle LOSER! Score: Xavier/Lasalle 76-65, Lost = 175.433 units Total: Bets = 8, Won = 2, Lost = 6 Bankroll = -220.839 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 Re: Saturday, March 3 - Round 2 REsults Mike Wynn T1: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: St Louis +3 +104 over Dayton WINNER! Score: St. Louis/Dayton 64-65, Won = 10.40 unitsBig Time T5: 335.908 units on: NCAAB: Pittsburgh +1 -104 over Marquette LOSER! Score: Pittsburgh/Marquette 71-75, Lost = 335.908 unitsComputer Sports T7: 41.553 units on: NCAAB: Texas Tech -2.5 +104 over Iowa St LOSER! Score: Texas Tech/Iowa St 63-61, Lost = 41.553 unitsEasy Money Sports T8: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Hawaii -8 +106 over Boise St WINNER! Score: Boise St/Hawaii 75-92, Won = 10.60 units Total: Bets = 4, Won = 2, Lost = 2 Bankroll = -356.461 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 Saturday's total Saturday's total: Bets = 12, Won = 4, Lost = 8 Bankroll = - 577.30 units ------------------------------- A disaster today! Many close bad brakes, but... the clown on thread 5 has lost now 7 in row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 System total after Saturday System total after Saturday: Bets = 211, Won = 110, Lost = 96, Push = 5 Bankroll = -188.812 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy Let's see what happens today... But now it looks that for this system to stand any chance in the long run, the starting bankroll has to be at least of 200 units, if the standard play is 1 unit. (Compared to this thread that would be 2,000 units not 1,000 as I started with). Just think, what would happened, if when starting the system with real money, someone would begun from the last 6 days? Disaster... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookie2000 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy lucky u start with virtual unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 Sunday, March 3 (Day 22) Mike Wynn T1: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Northern Illinois -4.5 -115 over Eastern MichiganPlatinum Plays T2: 21.311 units on: NBA: Milwaukee -2 -101 over ChicagoRazor Sharp T3: 10.30 units on: NBA: Chicago/Milwaukee OVER 200 -103 Totals4U T4: 23.31 units on: NCAAB: Florida -8.5 -105 over KentuckyBig Time T5: 698.43 units on: NBA: Utah/New Orleans OVER 197 -106#1 Sports T6: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Western Michigan -1 -109 over Ball StateComputer Sports T7: 98.331 units on: NCAAB: Seton Hall +15.5 -116 over LouisvilleEasy Money Sports T8: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Toledo -11.5 +104 over Central MichiganNevada Sharpshooter T9: 11.50 units on: NCAAB: Florida Atlantic +7.5 -115 over Western KentuckyThe Scout T10: 19.424 units on: NCAAB: Duke +9 +104 over North Carolina Total out = 912.606 units --------------- To be able to bet this total, the starting bankroll should've been minimum 1,101.418 units. So I'm going back now to my first post, and modify my starting bankroll to 1,102 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy Hey, what do you guys think: Wouldn't be now a fantastic moment to begin a short, max 3 step real money Martingale on thread 5 ("Big Time")? :unsure It just seems impossible to me to lose 10 in row!!!! :eek I mean just think about this the following way: Let's say we pick every day one game from NBA or NCAAB, look at the odds, than from a bowl with just 2 balls (home win and away win - both handicap) extract a ball, and bet on what the ball says... IMO the chance to lose 10 in row are very-very slight, close to none! Now, what is the chance for a tout who supposedly capped all his picks to go on losing 10 in row? It must be a lot lower than even like in the above case!!! Any imput very much apreciated! :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trollerboy Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy @player your Martingale approach is disastrous. When i found this thread i thought this might be something profitable,but by now i think it´s not. It would be interesting to know whether it´s possible to profit by level staking. So, do you have any data on the observations you´ve made from the free picks this and previous seasons? With Martingale you WILL FAIL! btw, if you want free picks, maybe wagerline.com is a good source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trollerboy Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy hi just calculated your ROI with level staking: 6.2 % Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy hi just calculated your ROI with level staking: 6.2 % Thanks mate, I had no time today to do this. ;) Not a very bad ROI! Maybe we can think of another staking plan, still progressive, but something milder that the one I've been using here! :unsure :loon I just had this idea: Use for any given day the same stake for all the threads, and then if the day is a loser, increase all stakes for the next day, depending on how much was lost, and so on. Something like this. I'll have to check the alternance of winning/losing days for level stakes, considering the daily totals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy Hey' date= what do you guys think: Wouldn't be now a fantastic moment to begin a short, max 3 step real money Martingale on thread 5 ("Big Time")? :unsure Too bad I havent' done this... :wall :@ This morning I was thinking to begin with a $500 stake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 Sunday, March 3 Results Mike Wynn T1: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Northern Illinois -4.5 -115 over Eastern Michigan WINNER! Score: Eastern Michigan/Northern Illinois 69-76, Won = 8.696 unitsPlatinum Plays T2: 21.311 units on: NBA: Milwaukee -2 -101 over Chicago LOSER! Score: Chicago/Milwaukee 126-121, Lost = 21.311 units Razor Sharp T3: 10.30 units on: NBA: Chicago/Milwaukee OVER 200 -103 WINNER! Score: Chicago/Milwaukee 126-121, Won = 10.00 unitsTotals4U T4: 23.31 units on: NCAAB: Florida -8.5 -105 over Kentucky WINNER! Score: Kentucky/Florida 72-85, Won = 22.20 unitsBig Time T5: 698.43 units on: NBA: Utah/New Orleans OVER 197 -106 WINNER! Score: Utah/New Orleans 108-94, Won = 658.896 units#1 Sports T6: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Western Michigan -1 -109 over Ball State WINNER! Score: Western Michigan/Ball State 71-67, Won = 9.174 unitsComputer Sports T7: 98.331 units on: NCAAB: Seton Hall +15.5 -116 over Louisville WINNER! Score: Seton Hall/Louisville 71-86, Won = 84.768 unitsEasy Money Sports T8: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Toledo -11.5 +104 over Central Michigan WINNER! Score: Central Michigan/Toledo 57-77, Won = 10.40 unitsNevada Sharpshooter T9: 11.50 units on: NCAAB: Florida Atlantic +7.5 -115 over Western Kentucky WINNER! Score: Florida Atlantic/Western Kentucky 81-86, Won = 10.00 unitsThe Scout T10: 19.424 units on: NCAAB: Duke +9 +104 over North Carolina LOSER! Score: Duke/North Carolina 72-86, Lost = 19.424 units Total: Bets = 10, Won = 8, Lost = 2 Bankroll = +773.399 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 System total after Sunday System total after Sunday: Bets = 221, Won = 118, Lost = 98, Push = 5 Bankroll = +584.587 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 Monday, March 5 (Day 23) Mike Wynn T1: 10.00 units on: NBA: Miami/Atlanta UNDER 185.5 -103Platinum Plays T2: 42.411 units on: NBA: Milwaukee +5.5 +100 over OrlandoRazor Sharp T3: 10.00 units on: NBA: Golden State/Detroit UNDER 196 +108 (the pick was given for 195.5, but 196 is the lowest I can buy to)Totals4U T4: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Oklahoma St/Nebraska OVER 134 -100 *Big Time T5: 10.00 units on: NBA: Charlotte/Utah UNDER 202.5 +109 (the pick was given for 202, but 202.5 is the lowest I can buy to)#1 Sports T6: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Oklahoma St/Nebraska OVER 134 -100 *Computer Sports T7: 10.00 units on: NBA: Miami -6 -102 over AtlantaEasy Money Sports T8: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Western Kentucky -5 -109 over Arkansas StNevada Sharpshooter T9: 10.00 units on: NCAAB: Oklahoma St -1 +104 over NebraskaThe Scout T10: 42.398 units on: NCAAB: North Texas -2 -107 over Mid. Tennessee St. * For threads 4 and 6 a single bet is made: 20.00 units on: NCAAB: Oklahoma St/Nebraska OVER 134 -100 Total out = 164.809 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy Good going so far. Good luck with your latest selections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy Good going so far. Good luck with your latest selections. Thanks mate! It's still paper trail yet, I don't know yet if I start with real money what would be the minimum needed bankroll compared with the basic unit (if I would apply exactly the same strategy like here) or if it's better to look for another approach, with a milder progressive staking to avoid situations like happened when one tout hit 7 losers in row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trollerboy Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Re: Free picks frenzy @player hey, do you have your picks in an Excel sheet? Then i could do some analysis on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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