slapdash Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) 2 - Enterprise class infrastructure. The ability of the data centre to provide multiple infrastructure redundancy (power and cooling) ensuring Mansion systems run 24/7/365 (N + 1). I just can't begin to tell you how much that makes a mathematician squirm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnley Joe Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) Time they give us a response we will have missed all the £100K torneys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) Have they stopped running? :sad I haven't played there since this happened....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnley Joe Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) They finish next week!!!!!!!!! Me neither! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomell Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) I played in last nights, finished in 116th when my two pair lost to a straight on the river :( It would have put me in the top 40. Good luck to you both and i hope you get whats due to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaban Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) Was reading this with interest - http://www.sportandtechnology.com/features/0443.html - think we need assurances from Mansion that the problems were not with their sub contractors either!!! All this really means is that they store their kit on somebodys elses site and potentially are connected to an internet (network) connection.Other than maybe some server management (i.e is it powered on) all the apps I would suspect will be managed remotely. This made me smile "Ireland offers ultra low network latency to Asia and North America " wow ultra low - I'd be interested in seeing what the round trip response time is between Ireland and a place in Asia, I'd put my house on that its not ultra low. This made me smile ( wow twice in one night ) from the suppliers website Traffic routing optimization using Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) (see my previous note :-) ) · Load-balancing over multiple networks and consistent performance ( so many networks had to simultaneously fail during this failure !!!! ) · Essential backup in the event that a provider fails ( see above ) · Guaranteed Service Levels for mission critical applications and users ( and again) Think your being told a few white lies !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) Would Mansion even have any personnel in Ireland? Have they any idea whether their servers were down? Maybe a sub contractor is covering up problems to protect their contract? :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaban Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) all depends where the service is managed from, physially the kit "may" be managed locally, highly likely that the service isnt though, so depends who looks after that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAM Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) All this really means is that they store their kit on somebodys elses site and potentially are connected to an internet (network) connection.Other than maybe some server management (i.e is it powered on) all the apps I would suspect will be managed remotely. This made me smile "Ireland offers ultra low network latency to Asia and North America " wow ultra low - I'd be interested in seeing what the round trip response time is between Ireland and a place in Asia, I'd put my house on that its not ultra low. This made me smile ( wow twice in one night ) from the suppliers website Traffic routing optimization using Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) (see my previous note :-) ) · Load-balancing over multiple networks and consistent performance ( so many networks had to simultaneously fail during this failure !!!! ) · Essential backup in the event that a provider fails ( see above ) · Guaranteed Service Levels for mission critical applications and users ( and again) Think your being told a few white lies !!! Mike can I have a room next to you in Brum in case I have trouble sleeping :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaban Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) Mike can I have a room next to you in Brum in case I have trouble sleeping :lol lol certainly mate.We can discuss bgp configuration for service providers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAM Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) lol certainly mate.We can discuss bgp configuration for service providers. I dont wish to be boring myself but I do want to talk about something on a more larger scale :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnley Joe Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) Mansion Poker Closes to U.S. Published: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 Author: Rumors of the possibility had been flying around the internet for a couple weeks and today, Mansion Poker finally confirmed it. The poker room is no longer accepting action from residents of the United States. The following has been posted on MansionPoker.com’s FAQ: “We regret to advise that we are not accepting deposit or gaming and wagering transactions from Members in the United States. However, US Members may continue to access their MANSION account for administrative functions.” Why it took Mansion so long to pull out of the U.S. is unknown, considering the other online poker rooms that ran away did so quite a while ago. Conventional wisdom is that because Mansion runs a sportsbook, the company was a particularly vulnerable target. The only major poker room still open to U.S. customers that is connected to a sportsbook is Bodog. Mansion Poker is best known for its Poker Dome Challenge, which pits online qualifiers against each other live in Las Vegas for an eventual chance at one million dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnley Joe Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) Wonder if we will finally get a response from them today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Puntalot Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) Patience my dear boy. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnley Joe Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) Patience is overated, action is always sweeter Cheers paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Puntalot Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) and do I not get action usually?;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnley Joe Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) Paul this has nothing to do with your bedroom games! You do, think your going soft though! they have gone over the deadline you set! Must be all the wedding stuff on your head LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Puntalot Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) :lol Sometimes you have to extend deadlines to get results, which I'm happy to do as long as I am getting action. I extended it on the basis I am now talking directly to the Poker Managers and not the go between. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnley Joe Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) Ok I was only pulling yur pisser, but i will leave that to Pen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Puntalot Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash (AND LIES) Ok, just spoke to the Mansion Poker managers for the last 25 minutes. Here is their official response. Dear Paul, Firstly, we apologize if you felt that we did not take your enquiry seriously enough. However, we have conducted further investigations on our side and have concluded once again that the cause of this subset of users being disconnected does not appear to be located at MANSION. We use a third party global monitoring service consisting of a large number of diversely located monitoring nodes which comprehensively track the availability of each of our services on both networking and application level. This service is used to enhance our members’ experience by ensuring that we constantly remain aware of both localized and global issues impacting our members’ ability to connect to our services. We have verified detailed reports for the time of the disconnects, and see no indication of any issues. The Poker site and application enjoyed 100% availability, and were seeing impressive performance statistics for that typically quiet time of the European morning. Moreover, application logs have also been studied to confirm this from our perspective and, to remind you, the tournament went uninterrupted and was concluded successfully. Like members of all gaming companies, ours are vulnerable to so-called “Internet weather” as well as localized problems in their country of origin. For example, ISPs a, b, and c, may each have had 2 MANSION customers traversing their network to connect to our application at the given date and time. If ISPs a, b, and c were all located in the same country, it is quite feasible that all rely on the infrastructure of the national incumbent telecommunications provider. This can very easily result in users of different ISPs, whether in the same region, or on a national level, to be disconnected. As they were all using MANSION at that time, it is all to easy for them to conclude the root cause to be located on our side. Kind Regards Now, I know that's not what you guys involved maybe wanted to hear, but I do believe Mansion have dug and dug into the problem and all their reports say that it wasn't their end. Who's fault was it? I don't know is the answer and the technical guys on here could be arguing all day with the Mansion tech team. One thing I will say is, Mansion are in my opinion a very credible company and unlike so many other poker companies PL'ers have come across, if they were at fault, I am certain they would admit liability, but what do you do, when your tech team is pulling report after report saying "Mansion was fine." PL has a great relationship with Mansion, but that did not stop me pressing them quite hard on the phone, but everything they said made sense. I said why not just settle the problem, but they replied "If we do that, we admit liability and whilst we would admit it, if it was our problem (they have in previous cases I'm told), our tech experts said that it definitely wasn't our problem." If Mansion were playing games, I don't believe all the affected players would have even got their $100 back, but they did. So, I'm disappointed this has happened in the first place, but I'm satisfied that Mansion have looked into the problem and that they weren't at fault, as I don't believe they would lie to me over a small amount of money that they could easily afford to hand out, but in doing so, would mean if the situation happened again, they would have to do it again, if at fault or not. So, everyone has their $100 back and let's get back to taking advantage of the big value in the 100k events, which are set to continue into February I am told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAM Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash right now you have put that to bed, can you get on with not getting my money back :tongue2 :lol:lol:lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Puntalot Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash right now you have put that to bed' date=' can you get on with not getting my money back :tongue2 :lol:lol:lol[/quote'] Pokerroom don't seem to give a fcuk mate, infuriating. :(:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnley Joe Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash Sound, cheers for sorting out Paul Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAM Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash Pokerroom don't seem to give a fcuk mate' date=' infuriating. :(:([/quote'] yes I did seem to gather that last November :( as I said I dont really care just wanted to make people aware of what they are like :@:@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skellers Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash So you wasted a week - and fell for their bulls*it - nice one boss haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash So you wasted a week - and fell for their bulls*it - nice one boss haha That's uncalled for. Whatever the outcome of this particular case, Paul has a great record of getting bookies/poker sites to pay up in disputes with PL members. Nobody's going to have a 100% record, and maybe you should be praising him for putting in the effort rather than mocking him for wasting his time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhornet Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash That's uncalled for. Whatever the outcome of this particular case, Paul has a great record of getting bookies/poker sites to pay up in disputes with PL members. Nobody's going to have a 100% record, and maybe you should be praising him for putting in the effort rather than mocking him for wasting his time. Point well made:ok . However, I do feel a sense of frustration that a company the size of Mansion were not able to offer Joe, GaF, and the other disconnected parties some level of goodwill gesture. By doing so does not necessarily imply an admission of guilt. It would merely point out that whatever occured was certainly of no fault of the affected players.The company would just be seen as being benevolent, and acting in the spirit of fair play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash There is NOONE I would rather have represent my interests in a case like this than Paul :ok And there is NOONE I believe who would get better results than Paul :ok Thank you very much for your efforts Paul, I do appreciate it :ok Will add my comments on Mansion in a bit :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsul Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash There is NOONE I would rather have represent my interests in a case like this than Paul :ok And there is NOONE I believe who would get better results than Paul :ok Thank you very much for your efforts Paul, I do appreciate it :ok Will add my comments on Mansion in a bit :ok WELL SAID>>:clap :clap :clap In Total Agreement.:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Puntalot Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Re: Mansion Crash So you wasted a week - and fell for their bulls*it - nice one boss haha Are you a clown on a regular basis or is it just a part time job?;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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