skinnyman9000 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Re: Quick System Blimey, how long has this system been going for! Still though, an average of 22pts profit a month is VERY good going! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Re: Quick System skinnyman9000 since Jan. 2004 mate still working on the yearly figures but been helpin my daughter move house and have had this man flu thing :lol and haven't touched it for a week. back at it next week. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Re: Quick System Thursday 05/02/2009 NO SELECTIONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Re: Quick System Friday 06/02/2009 Southwell 04:35 ESPRIT DE MIDAS f/c. 4/7 stake = 10 pts. WIN Wolverhampton 07:20 RIGUEZ DANCER f/c. 7/4 stake = 10 pts. WIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristopwr Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Re: Quick System Hello there ralphie7.. I was wondering (since I am new to this) what does f/c mean? Also, are all the tips for UK horse racing and do you bet with one particular bookie? ie-betfair? Since I am in Australia would it matter "what time" I placed the bets? Many thanks in advance and have a great day.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Re: Quick System aristopwr :welcome I was wondering (since I am new to this) what does f/c mean? Also, are all the tips for UK horse racing and do you bet with one particular bookie? ie-betfair? Since I am in Australia would it matter "what time" I placed the bets? Hello hope this helps..... 1.... f/c means forcast price - i use the Racing Post website forecast price for the selections. 2.... I use UK and Irish race meetings. no idea what results would be using any others I have never checked. To keep the results true for camparison sake year -to-year I always use the starting price for the results on here. Likewise I always use the same stake when posting the selections on here. Reason being that if a system can't make a profit at level stakes then no staking system will make it a good system. Thats just my opinion. For my own bets I do use the " Retirement staking plan " with this. If you can get a better price then starting price then thats great. Its just personal preference whether you take a price or take s/p. 3....doesn't matter what time you put them on i post the selections as soon as i have checked them. hope that helps one of my mates is in Australia at present visiting his son and daughter-in-law not sure where abouts though he sure picked a good time to go UK grinds to halt with a bit of snow :$ All the Best ralphie7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Re: Quick System Result Southwell 04:35 ESPRIT DE MIDAS.....1st..4/11 Wolverhampton 07:20 RIGUEZ DANCER.....Non-Runner Todays Profit = + 3.64 pts. ---------------------- Bank = + 1457.49 pts. Profit = + 1357.49 pts ---------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Re: Quick System Saturday 07/02/2009 NO SELECTIONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristopwr Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Re: Quick System Thanks for the reply mate..I can't send a PM for some reason(no PM button) I was wondering what the "retirement plan" means? Also with regards to price and SP do you use a normal bookie or say an exchange like betfair? Thanks again and it is quite hot here at the moment(Queensland) and quite humid.. Hope the snow doesn't give you too much trouble..Swaps?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Re: Quick System aristopwr Hi mate regarding the p/m's I think you have to have posted on here for say 10 times ( that might not be the right number its just off the top of my head ) before you can p/m. you will get that soon though. Retirement Staking Plan The Retirement Staking plan was devised by Grandstand's Barry Hughes which is similar in some degree to Retrieval Staking, in that you are aiming to achieve a particular amount of money on any particular bet, and shape your stake accordingly. But rather than use the odds of the each horse, it uses an 'average' price of your winners. So, first of all you need to take the average price of your winners. Double this figure to get your 'divisor'. We know the average price of our winners is 3/1, so the divisor for this plan is 6. Now, the first stake in this plan is 1% of the starting Bank, and the target becomes this stake multiplied by the divisor: SelectionDivisorTargetStakeBalanceHorse #16£6.00£1.00£100 Now that we have our first bet calculated, we can carry on. All losses are added to your target, and to get your new stake, you simply take your current target and divide by the divisor. If you go 6 races without a winner, you need to increase your divisor by one after each losing bet: SelectionFin PosDivisorTargetStakeBalanceStarting BankNP£100.00Horse #1NP6£6.00£1.00£99.00Horse #2NP6£7.00£1.17£97.83Horse #3NP6£8.17£1.36£96.47Horse #4NP6£9.53£1.59£94.88Horse #5NP6£11.12£1.85£93.03Horse #6NP6£12.97£2.16£90.87Horse #7NP7£15.13£2.16£88.71Horse #8NP8£17.29£2.16£86.55Horse #10NP9£19.45£2.16£84.39Horse #10WON @ 3/110£21.61£2.16£90.87 Now, when you have a winner, you reduce your target by how much you won. And it just so happens, that we have won our 'target' odds, so with a stake of £2.16 on a 3/1, we have won £6.48. Our current target being £21.61, so we reduce the target by £6.48, which is £15.13. Now, in order to see what the divisor is, we look back to when the target in previous bets, was closest to the current target, and we can see that on Horse #7 the target was exactly £15.13, and at that point the divisor was 7, so the new divisor becomes 7. SelectionFin PosDivisorTargetStakeBalanceHorse #11NP7£15.132.16£88.70Horse #12WON @ 2/18£17.29£2.16£93.03 Now, again we have won, so we take the winnings from the target. £2.16 @ 2/1 = £4.32. Target of £17.29 - £4.32 = £12.97. So again, we look to the past to see when our target was close to the current, and this was on Horse #6, where the target was exactly £12.97 - at this time the divisor was 6, so the new divisor is 6. However, we must also remember that at this point, (Horse #6) we were about to start increases our divisor, as we had had a losing run of 6. This must be continued again, so if our next horse loses, we increase the divisor. SelectionFin PosDivisorTargetStakeBalanceHorse #13NP6£12.972.16£90.87Horse #14WON @ 5/27£15.13£2.16£96.27Horse #14WON @ 5/26£9.73£1.22£99.31 And at this point, the target drops from £9.73 to £6.69, so we are back at the start. Advantages This plan PROTECTS the bank, it can stand 48 losses before breaking it. Increasing the divisor after 6 bets, further increases the safety of the bank. Disadvantages This plan is solely aimed at protecting your bank, and as such does very little to increase it. Your bet so small even when you are betting your maximum you will fail to win very much. Because the plan does not look at the current odds for the horse, the stake does not reflect the target, eg. if your target is 3/1 and you are betting on a 2/1, you know even before the horse runs, that you will not recoup your target. When you do win, you have to work out not only what the new divisor is by looking back, but you must also remember, how many losing runs the current bet was on, and use that also. Summary Number of losing bets to halve the initial Betting Bank : 25 Number of losing bets to break the initial Betting Bank : 48 The Retirement Plan is a VERY LOW RISK Staking Plan with regards to price and SP do you use a normal bookie or say an exchange like betfair? I have used both in the past At present I am using Paddy Power they are giving the guarantee that if you take the price say Evens and the horse drifts out to 3/1 they will pay out on the higher price. Its purely personal choice though I aren't sure which is best. swaps ?? :) yes well the pictures we have received from over there look just the job...... white sand, blue sea, bikini clad lady's hmmmm no contest really is there Snow, Ice, No public transport, No jobs and Gordon Brown :( we are knackered mate you wouldn't want to swap have a Good weekend ralphie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Re: Quick System Sunday 08/02/2009 NO SELECTIONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Re: Quick System 50 posts needed to be able to PM by the way. ralphie, finally getting a baby for Blue to play with, meant to tell you last week. Picking her up at the end of the month, Siberian Husky, called her Sky. 6 weeks old at the minute. Took Blue to Rutland Water to have a run round in the snow, the pratt jumped straight into the freezing lake!!! I'll send you a photo of the pup. All the best mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Re: Quick System Billy 50 posts needed to be able to PM by the way. thanks mate :ok i knew i was near :lol finally getting a baby for Blue to play with, meant to tell you last week. Picking her up at the end of the month, Siberian Husky, called her Sky. 6 weeks old at the minute. nice one :) thats great news mate i bet you can't wait ;) Took Blue to Rutland Water to have a run round in the snow, the pratt jumped straight into the freezing lake!!! :lol Toby my first Lab used to dive into rivers. if he saw water he just had to be in it. couldn't get him out once. the banks were too steep seriously thought I was going to have to go in after him. I would have luved to have seen your face quality :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Re: Quick System Monday 09/02/2009 NO SELECTIONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Re: Quick System Tuesday 10/02/2009 Southwell 04:20 ESPRIT DE MIDAS f/c. 1/2 stake = 10 pts. WIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Re: Quick System Result Southwell 04:20 ESPRIT DE MIDAS.....1st..1/4 Todays Profit = + 2.50 pts. ---------------------- Bank = + 1459.99 pts. Profit = + 1359.99 pts ---------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Re: Quick System Wednesday 11/02/2009 Lingfield 02:10 PRAIRIE HAWK f/c. 4/5 stake = 10 pts. WIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evad Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Re: Quick System another winner m8 well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Re: Quick System Result Lingfield 02:10 PRAIRIE HAWK.....1st..5/6 Todays Profit = + 8.33 pts. ---------------------- Bank = + 1468.32 pts. Profit = + 1368.32 pts ---------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Re: Quick System thanks evad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Re: Quick System Thursday 12/02/2009 NO SELECTIONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Re: Quick System Friday 13/02/2009 NO SELECTIONS sorry its late been the Docs cant shake off this man flu thingy 3 weeks and counting anyway antibiotics for a week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Re: Quick System Saturday 14/02/2009 Ascot 03:20 SILK AFFAIR todays selection is a Non-Runner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Re: Quick System Sunday 15/02/2009 Southwell 05:00 GENERAL TUFTO f/c. 6/4 stake = 10 pts. WIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evad Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Re: Quick System another winner well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamo Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Re: Quick System Well done on the recent winners Ralphie :clap Nice to see :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Re: Quick System evad + Kamo thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Re: Quick System Result Southwell 05:00 GENERAL TUFTO.....1st..11/8 Todays Profit = + 13.75 pts. ---------------------- Bank = + 1482.07 pts. Profit = + 1382.07 pts ---------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Re: Quick System Monday 16/02/2009 NO SELECTIONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Re: Quick System Tuesday 17/02/2009 Taunton 03:50 SKI SUNDAY f/c. 5/2 stake = 10 pts. WIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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