FleetFanatic Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Monday 30th January: Staking plan of 1 / 2 / 3 / 5 / 7 / 10 / 14 / 19 / 26 / 35 / 47 / 63 / 84 / 112 / 150 Starting Profit / Loss: +336.25pts Next bet: 7pts 1.40 Wolverhampton Diktalex 11/2 7pts..... 2nd 2.00 Ludlow Waterloo Son 9/2 10pts..... lost 2.10 Wolverhampton Cookie Cutter 5/2 no bet 2.40 Wolverhampton Newnham 14pts 13/2 1st returned 105pts :clap 2.50 Southwell Squantum 7/1 1pt..... lost 3.20 Southwell Nuzzle 15/2 2pts..... lost 4.00 Ludlow Spike Jones 7/2 3pts..... lost 4.10 Wolverhampton 11/2 Hayyani 5pts..... lost 4.30 Ludlow Insurgent 14/1 7pts..... lost Under 3/1 then no bet. Starting Profit / Loss: +336.25pts Today's Stakes: 49pts Today's Returns: 105pts New Profit / Loss: +392.25pts (PRIVATELY +632.50 SINCE JAN 23RD) Next bet: 10pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Have you looked further back than Jan 2006 %man? No Danny and you no why ,in one of your early post you warned him to be careful and so did i but he's on a buzz and with a bit of luck he will make a good profit before the rot sets in who knows but i do wish him all the luck. Sometimes you just start a system at the right time and you could go a while before it hits the rocks as most do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Tuesday 31st January: Staking plan of 1 / 2 / 3 / 5 / 7 / 10 / 14 / 19 / 26 / 35 / 47 / 63 / 84 / 112 / 150 Starting Profit / Loss: +392.25pts (PRIVATELY +632.50 SINCE JAN 23RD) Next bet: 10pts 1.30 Folkestone Straw Bear 2.50 Southwell Nisr 3.00 Folkestone Isam Top 3.20 Southwell Moon Shot 3.30 Folkestone Rosetown 3.50 Southwell Boanerges 4.00 Folkestone Julies Boy Under 3/1 no bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Somehow, I think the first and last races will be 'no bets'.:\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Last year if you followed this system it would have had a series of 6 seperate win sequences before hitting the rocks. This morn went through every race uptil Sep and in one period out of 110 bets their was only 3 winners at 4/1,4/1and 6/1 but their was a series of 15 seperate win sequences but the only trouble is the average price was about 9/2 not like the 22/1 and 12/1 that have come up since the start up of this system.Up till sep there would have been 21 times with 15 losers on the trot if you backed in races where there was only 1 runner that won last time outat odds of 3/1+.I do hope you get a good run you never know. Also the 22/1 winner you had was only because the 1st 2 took the wrong course at the last fence but thats a bit of luck for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Will you stop picking holes? It's not my fault that two jockeys took the wrong course that day, is it? How about when the favourite in a race falls at the last fence? It's all luck. It's doesn't matter if I get long odds or only 9/2 - the staking plan is based around guaranteed profit as long as you get a winner. Every horse could be 3/1 and will still return a profit - the longer odds merely make the profit higher. I think all the time the profit increases, I will allow an extra step to allow a longer losing run - so eventually I could be allowing for a losing run of 20 or even more. The more I win, the longer I can afford to lose. If I get wiped out I don't care to be honest, as long as I don't spend any money out of my own pocket! I just want to see how long I can carry it out for...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Tuesday 31st January: Staking plan of 1 / 2 / 3 / 5 / 7 / 10 / 14 / 19 / 26 / 35 / 47 / 63 / 84 / 112 / 150 Starting Profit / Loss: +392.25pts (PRIVATELY +632.50 SINCE JAN 23RD) Next bet: 10pts 1.30 Folkestone Straw Bear 2/9 no bet (& it won) 2.50 Southwell Nisr 5/1 10pts..... lost 3.00 Folkestone Isam Top 9/1 14pts..... 3rd lost 3.20 Southwell Moon Shot 3/1 19pts..... 2nd lost (by 1/2 length) 3.30 Folkestone Rosetown 11/4 no bet 3.50 Southwell Boanerges 7/2 26pts..... 3rd lost 4.00 Folkestone Julies Boy 2/1 no bet Under 3/1 no bet. Starting Profit / Loss: +392.25pts (PRIVATELY +632.50 SINCE JAN 23RD) Today's Stakes: 69pts Today's Returns: 0pts New Profit / Loss: +323.25pts Next bet: 35pts We fight on tomorrow......not nervous yet, worst run so far was 11 races without a winner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Wednesday 1st February: Today we either win or get wiped out, apparently. Staking plan of 1 / 2 / 3 / 5 / 7 / 10 / 14 / 19 / 26 / 35 / 47 / 63 / 84 / 112 / 150 Starting Profit / Loss: +323.25pts Next bet: 35pts 1.30 Lingfield Young Mick / Night Warrior* 2.00 Lingfield A Thousand Smiles 2.10 Leicester Barella 2.40 Leicester Woodford Consult 3.30 Lingfield Kindlelight Debut 4.10 Leicester Five Colours 4.30 Lingfield Kingsgate Prince *to be decided wednesday morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Pre-wednesday updates: 3/1+ only's: +323.25pts next bet 35pts (if followed from 23rd Jan +589.50pts next bet 26pts) (following staking plan of staking plan of 1 / 2 / 3 / 5 / 7 / 10 / 14 / 19 / 26 / 35 / 47 / 63 / 84 / 112 / 150) 5/1+ only's: +292.50pts (if followed from 23rd Jan) next bet 15pts (following staking plan of staking plan of 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 6 / 8 / 10 / 12 / 15 / 18 / 22 / 27 / 33 / 40 / 48.) 10/1+only's: +390pts (if followed from 23rd Jan) (based on £10 level stakes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! 5/1+'s still looking the far safer option of the two progressives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgej Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Young Mick's had a few good runs recently, but may be getting tired. (Mug's opinion) Hope you get some good wins early on and this thread will still be going at Easter time. Don't feel you need to change your system for us. I'm sure % man is just as happy to see you beating the odds as much as i am. Long may it continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! It was the comment about only winning because of 2 horses taking the wrong course that miffed me. Whilst true, the system would have still gone on without it. Besides, not the first time jockeys have done that and it won't be the last. Thanks for your support. Very tempted to switch to the 5/1 option but I think we'll do that if and when the 3/1 route goes belly up (which could be quite soon!) Easter is a long way off..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason greengrass Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Young Mick is by far the horse on form in this race and should win easily in this race get betting early for better odds :clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! As i've said before i hope you win every day only trying to show the pitfalls and hope they never happen and i know if they win at three 3/1 you would make a profit but when a horse goes in at 12/1, 14/1 or 20/1 if you do have a losing run of 15 the loses would not be has bad. With the 22/1 winner i was just making a statement nothing personal. The only other thing i did find after April finding races with only 1 last time winner as most races had 2,3,4 or more. Look at that crap idea of mine FINDING THE SPOT because early last week i saw a claimer who had a treble thought that might be a good idea but only 1 winner from 35 but will keep going and maybe the first to the fastest 100 losers. So just keep picking the winners % MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! You're still wrong. The moment you get a winner, at 3/1 you win everything back plus profit. Look at my staking plan - it was calculated exactly for that purpose. That is why at 5/1 the staking plan is different. All a big price does is give extra profits. The losses will be the same on a losing run no matter what. The extra profits might just keep me running a bit longer, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgej Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! :lol Love these late night posts. I think %man is trying to say, when it goes tits up - it won't hurt so much if you have had more winners at 12/1 rather than 3/1 Seconds out... next round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! I did say that if you had a 3/1 winner you would make a profit and that includes all those that lost in that sequence. Also why change something thats working and when it got past April last year their where a lot of horses that won at 7/2 to 9/2 and when a big price winner comes it will help you to keep going longer like you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! good luck today FF! :D DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Wednesday 1st February: Today we either win or get wiped out, apparently. Staking plan of 1 / 2 / 3 / 5 / 7 / 10 / 14 / 19 / 26 / 35 / 47 / 63 / 84 / 112 / 150 Starting Profit / Loss: +323.25pts Next bet: 35pts 1.30 Lingfield Young Mick went with fav 7/2 35pts..... lost (by short head) 2.00 Lingfield A Thousand Smiles 11/2 47pts..... lost 2.15 Leicester Barella 7/2 63pts..... lost 2.45 Leicester Woodford Consult 84pts..... lost 3.30 Lingfield Kindlelight Debut 112 pts..... 2nd oh ffs 4.15 Leicester Five Colours 150pts :hope 4.30 Lingfield Kingsgate Prince Starting Profit / Loss: +323.25pts Today's Stakes: pts Today's Returns: pts New Profit / Loss: pts Next bet: pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! I need to lie down..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgej Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Hope you make it mate. Backed Missie Baileys @ 38 which beat Young Mick. (Had 5 picks in that race) fingers crossed for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgej Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Fleet - you're just above break-even right now - what are the plans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! if followed from 23rd Jan +589.50pts next bet 26pts was how I started today. I run to 150pts...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgej Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! woah! Hope you get it. And mine to place at least - 100/1 shot. if you see lots of dancing icons, you'll know what it means. :ok :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! :sad 2nd in the 3.30. The end is nigh........ 150pts in 4.15, but privately I die in the 4.30 without a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Back to work tomorrow anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgej Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! That really sucks - really thought you had it at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Favourite was too strong - stewards inquiry doesn't affect the winner. Privately not dead yet - 150pts on 4.30 Lingfield Kingsgate Prince Young Mick, betaen by short head, Barella stitched up by It's My Party (jockey of that horse banned for 12 days, 2 seperate reasons)...... .....see, it's all about luck, or lack of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! Regardless, will tally up how the 5/1 method lies and continue with that as a paper trial. And the level stakes @ 10/1 + is still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother love Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Re: Stop at a winner..... and start again! phew well done ff regards mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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