FleetFanatic Posted October 6, 2006 Author Share Posted October 6, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Best odds are up - it's the 'only allow a 14-fold' bet365. Manual inputing of each part of the bet seperately required. That means take AB, enter stake, place bet. Then AC, AD, AE etc until all 10 6-folds done. Repeat for 9-folds, then 12-folds. I'll stick the 15-fold in Stan James as I know I can. (Combined odds there are 2/3 of bet365.) Be ok if betfair could take this bet - combined odds would be 3 times greater. For those using a bookies and a betting slip, an example is here: http://www.punterslounge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23361&page=44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 6, 2006 Author Share Posted October 6, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Right on with 6/7/8 Oct: Treble: BEST ODDS TOTALBET 31 Yeovil 7/10 30 Carlisle 4/5 26 Bradford 10/11 £10 staked in an attempt to return £58.42 :hope Bank now £47.26 7-fold: BEST ODDS >BET365 31 Yeovil 3/5 30 Carlisle 4/5 29 Shrewsbury 4/6 26 Bradford 10/11 24 Dagenham 8/15 -----brings in 2 as next best----- 16 Port Vale 10/11 16 Exeter 5/6 £10 staked in an attempt to return £491.78:hope Bank now £30Bloody Woevil. :@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmphill Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Can't believe Yeovil came a cropper for you mate. Looked a solid home win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Group A BRADFORD 10/11 :@ DAGENHAM 8/15 :clap PORT VALE 10/11 to play doesn't matter Group B BRISTOL R 1/1 :clap DARLINGTON 10/11 :@ RUSHDEN 6/4 :wall Group C BRIGHTON 11/10 play sunday EXETER 5/6 :clap SHREWSBURY 4/6 :clap Group D CARLISLE 4/5 :@ GRAVESEND 1/1 :clap WYCOMBE 8/11 :clap Group E CREWE 4/5 :clap NOTT'M F 4/6 :@ YEOVIL 3/5 :@ One could argue Carlisle Nott'm F Yeovil and Darlington were all shock results! :wall :wall :wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 8, 2006 Author Share Posted October 8, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... I'm going to look at this system a bit during the week and consider a few tweaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Right..... I've taken on a couple of suggestions from last season: Current form is now only the last 4 games. And away form changes to WINS PLUS DRAWS MINUS DEFEATS. Will be back later with the ratings and bets. As the method has changed, we'll reset the banks back to £100 and see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... To reflect the new calculations, the following will apply: Treble: teams must rate 25+ to qualify and be higher than 1/2 at bet365 7-fold: teams must rate 15+ to qualify best 7 odds at bet365 taken 15-perm: teams must rate 10+ to qualify best 15 odds at bet365 taken Once the above is done, we shop about for best odds! 13/14/15/16 Oct: Step 1: ratings + >bet365 odds: 33 Weymouth 1/2 32 Scunthorpe 4/6 32 Oxford 4/11 31 Oldham 4/7 29 Hartlepool 4/6 28 Burnley 4/6 21 Arsenal 1/6 21 Swindon 8/11 20 Aston Villa 5/4 18 Notts County 5/6 17 Bristol City 4/5 16 Preston 6/5 15 Walsall 1/1 11 Portsmouth 1/1 11 Fulham 11/10 11 Rochdale 1/1 10 Man City 4/6 So applying the filters..... Treble: BEST ODDS TOTALBET 32 Scunthorpe 8/13 29 Hartlepool 7/10 28 Burnley 8/11 £10 staked in an attempt to return £47.43 Bank now £90 7-fold: BEST ODDS >BET365 32 Scunthorpe 4/6 21 Swindon 8/11 20 Aston Villa 5/4 18 Notts County 5/6 17 Bristol City 4/5 16 Preston 6/5 15 Walsall 1/1 £10 staked in an attempt to return £940.50 Bank now £90 Perm to follow..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... PERM-TIME! BEST ODDS: blue square Group A 20 Aston Villa 11/10 10 ManCity 8/11 11 Rochdale 6/5 Group B 17 Bristol City 5/6 18 Notts County 4/5 32 Scunthorpe 4/6 Group C 28 Burnley 8/11 31 Oldham 8/13 21 Swindon 8/13 Group D 11 Fulham 11/10 11 Portsmouth 10/11 15 Walsall 11/10 Group E 29 Hartlepool 4/6 16 Preston 13/10 33 Weymouth 1/2 Groups A B C D & E permed into: 10 groups of 6 AB AC AD AE BC BD BE CD CE DE 10 groups of 9 ABC ABD ABE ACD ACE ADE BCD BCE BDE CDE 5 groups of 12 ABCD ABCE ABDE ACDE BCDE 1 group of 15 ABCDE 26 x .20 = £5.20 staked. Bank now £94.80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky-15 Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Hi FF i've just joined and read all through ur thread as i've been following bookiesrbust 4 4 weeks without joy. I liked ur idea of dropping the Glen Beavis (POINTLESS!!) , but i've also used the form 4 the last 6 matches 4 the away team if they end up with a plus score i minus it - if the away scores a minus i add it on 2 the home team - just thought i'd c what u think CHEERS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Hi and :welcome . I've said it time and time again - the bookiesrbust idea is crap mate. All that happens is you dilute the double (in our case treble) between the draws - and even then that's based on your selected teams winning. That was proved in the very first parts of this very long thread. There is one very strong reason why we don't even think about the away teams form & that is because if a team is going to slip, even those top of the league, it will more likely happen away from home. Last season within the space of a week I think it was, Accrington lost away at Southport, Southend away at MK Dons - both of those were the bottom club at home to the top club. Chelsea got beat away at Fulham.... the list is endless. Whilst they were not home teams we would come up with using these methods, I maintain backing away teams is a joke. I could add more and more variable / filters and all that is happen in the end is that we'd end up having no selections for our bets! This season has proved tricky so far but last season it was already 2006 when this system really was put into place - without doubt by then the form was well bedded and the league table better shaped. I'm not panicking yet, I've just reset a couple of variables which i think has also allowed me to set more rigid rules. Whether it turns out to be for the better or not remains to be seen..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky-15 Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Sorry I forgot to mention i've decided to drop the PERMS aswell after reading ur threads - Ur right though that bookiesrbust is crap like i said 4 weeks and didn't come close CHEERS for the response!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedlam Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... As you've already suggested Fleet, maybe it's too early to tinker. The system produced fantastic results last season. Maybe the answer is simply to be more patient next season & give form more time to establish. You allowed yourself to be talked in to starting too early by popular demand against your better judgement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Ah but was it 'against my better judgement'? I haven't run this so early in the season before so didn't know what to expect! The revisions put more emphasis on the most recent performances & also ensure that teams drawing away from home go against the home team rather than for the home team, which was a valid agrument raised by others last season. As with any system, it can always be open to improvement. We'll go forward with these revisions until the end of the year and if no joy, we'll consider picking up 2007 with the old criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 14, 2006 Author Share Posted October 14, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Treble: BEST ODDS TOTALBET 32 Scunthorpe 8/13 1-2 :@ 29 Hartlepool 7/10 1-1 :wall 28 Burnley 8/11 2-0 :clap £10 staked in an attempt to return £47.43 Bank now £90 7-fold: BEST ODDS >BET365 32 Scunthorpe 4/6 1-2 :@ 21 Swindon 8/11 3-0 :clap 20 Aston Villa 5/4 1-1 :wall 18 Notts County 5/6 1-2 :wall 17 Bristol City 4/5 2-1 :clap 16 Preston 6/5 4-1 :clap 15 Walsall 1/1 2-0 :clap £10 staked in an attempt to return £940.50 Bank now £90 Perm to follow.....Hmmmmmmm :$ :sad PERM-TIME! BEST ODDS: blue square Group A 20 Aston Villa 11/10 :wall 10 ManCity 8/11 :wall 11 Rochdale 6/5 :wall Group B 17 Bristol City 5/6 :clap 18 Notts County 4/5 :@ 32 Scunthorpe 4/6 :@ Group C 28 Burnley 8/11 :clap 31 Oldham 8/13 :wall 21 Swindon 8/13 :clap Group D 11 Fulham 11/10 monday 11 Portsmouth 10/11 :clap 15 Walsall 11/10 :clap Group E 29 Hartlepool 4/6 :wall 16 Preston 13/10 :clap 33 Weymouth 1/2 :clap 26 x .20 = £5.20 staked. Bank now £94.80. A draw in C & E mean monday means nothing. :sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 19, 2006 Author Share Posted October 19, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... 20-23 Oct: Step 1: ratings + >bet365 odds: 36 Preston 4/7 36 Dagenham 1/2 32 Weymouth 8/13 21 Luton 10/11 21 Bristol Rovers 4/7 19 Man Utd 10/11 19 West Brom 10/11 16 Swansea 8/11 15 Crewe 17/20 14 MK Dons 4/6 13 Exeter 4/6 10 Chelsea 2/7 10 Everton 4/7 10 Lincoln 8/11 9 Aston Villa 8/11 So applying the filters..... Treble: BEST ODDS >BET365 36 Preston 4/7 32 Weymouth 8/13 21 Luton 10/11 £10 staked in an attempt to return £48.46 Bank now £80 7-fold: BEST ODDS >BET365 21 Luton 10/11 19 Man Utd 10/11 19 West Brom 10/11 16 Swansea 8/11 15 Crewe 17/20 14 MK Dons 4/6 13 Exeter 4/6 £10 staked in an attempt to return £617.60 Bank now £80 Perm to follow later, as will the odds / bookie for the 7-fold..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 20, 2006 Author Share Posted October 20, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... PERM:Best odds seem to be BET365..... .....which means the 15-fold will have to be done elsewhere as 14 selections is the max at bet365. Group A Aston Villa 8/11 Everton 4/7 MK Dons 4/6 Group B Bristol Rovers 4/7 Exeter 4/6 Preston 4/7 Group C Chelsea2/7 Lincoln 8/11 Swansea 8/11 Group D Crewe 17/20 Luton 10/11 West Brom 10/11 Group E Dagenham 1/2 Man Utd 10/11 Weymouth 8/13 Groups A B C D & E permed into: 10 groups of 6 AB AC AD AE BC BD BE CD CE DE 10 groups of 9 ABC ABD ABE ACD ACE ADE BCD BCE BDE CDE 5 groups of 12 ABCD ABCE ABDE ACDE BCDE 1 group of 15 ABCDE 26 x .20 = £5.20 staked. Bank now £89.60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Well despite the recent hiccups I've read through most of this thread picking up the important bits and now I'm jumping on the bandwagon. At present I'll be following the treble and the 7-fold only with less stake than yourself as playing with a smaller bank. This being the reason I cannot justify the canadian yet unless they wanted to accept 26 bets of between 2-5p haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SensiSteve Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Good Luck Fleet, I feel this is the weekend, that the bad luck will pass. :hope :hope for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Anybody know if Weymouth are looking likely to win?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Anybody know if Weymouth are looking likely to win?? Not likely. 1 v 1 with seconds to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Not likely. 1 v 1 with seconds to go. Ah.....brilliant:eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Well that is just typical!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 21, 2006 Author Share Posted October 21, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... 20-23 Oct: Treble: BEST ODDS >BET365 36 Preston 4/7 2/1 :clap 32 Weymouth 8/13 1-1 :wall 21 Luton 10/11 5/1 :clap £10 staked in an attempt to return £48.46 Bank now £80 7-fold: BEST ODDS >BET365 21 Luton 10/11 :clap 19 Man Utd 10/11 :clap 19 West Brom 10/11 :clap 16 Swansea 8/11 :clap 15 Crewe 17/20 1-2 :@ 14 MK Dons 4/6 1-3 :@ 13 Exeter 4/6 1-2 :@ £10 staked in an attempt to return £617.60 Bank now £80The original rules under the revised calculations were: To reflect the new calculations, the following will apply: Treble: teams must rate 25+ to qualify and be higher than 1/2 at >bet365 7-fold: teams must rate 15+ to qualify best 7 odds at >bet365 taken 15-perm: teams must rate 10+ to qualify best 15 odds at >bet365 taken Notice how the teams rated ABOVE 15 in our bet all won? I give up!!! :wall :wall :wall PERM: Group A Aston Villa 8/11 1-1 :wall Everton 4/7 2-0 :clap MK Dons 4/6 1-3 :@ Group B Bristol Rovers 4/7 0-0 :wall Exeter 4/6 1-2 :@ Preston 4/7 2-1 :clap Group C Chelsea2/7 2-1 :clap Lincoln 8/11 7-1 :clap Swansea 8/11 2-0 :clap Group D Crewe 17/20 1-2 :@ Luton 10/11 5-1 :clap West Brom 10/11 3-0 :clap Group E Dagenham 1/2 1-2 :@ Man Utd 10/11 2-0 :clap Weymouth 8/13 1-1 :wall 26 x .20 = £5.20 staked. Bank now £89.60.Grrrrrr......:@ :wall :@ :wall :@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedlam Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Chin up Fleet, your fantastic run of winners all came after the new year last season, stick with it mate. :ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... I was thinking about this at work today. I was thinking, if we take the top-rated from each of the 5 divisions and then the best 3 odds for the treble? For the 7-fold, take the top 2 rated per division and then from those the best 7 odds-wise? That way, it won't matter if the ratings are low in any given week. Just an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... I was thinking about this at work today. I was thinking, if we take the top-rated from each of the 5 divisions and then the best 3 odds for the treble? For the 7-fold, take the top 2 rated per division and then from those the best 7 odds-wise? That way, it won't matter if the ratings are low in any given week. Just an idea. Sounds like it might be worth a go:) :ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... I was thinking about this at work today. I was thinking, if we take the top-rated from each of the 5 divisions and then the best 3 odds for the treble? For the 7-fold, take the top 2 rated per division and then from those the best 7 odds-wise? That way, it won't matter if the ratings are low in any given week. Just an idea. Presumably you would have to be careful with top end teams playing each other. Would you just omit these on such weeks and go with the next down in the table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted October 24, 2006 Author Share Posted October 24, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... But the top 2 rated home teams wouldn't be playing each other as they are both at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtw1 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... Have you back-checked it to see if would have made a difference for this season FLEET ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygooner Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Re: Fleet's UK Footie Trebles..... But the top 2 rated home teams wouldn't be playing each other as they are both at home? Of course. My bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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