Mr Intensity Posted March 10, 2006 Author Share Posted March 10, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites GOLDSTEIN (63) v Martin (60) @ 1.67 Pinnacle 5pts FISH (294) v G Lapentti (289) @ 1.671 Pinnacle 5pts SCHUETTLER (78) v Pashanski (56) @ 1.57 Ladbrokes 5pts CALLERI (62) v Massu (47) @ 1.80 WillHill 5pts MULLER (69) v Carlsen (110) @ 1.9 Centrebet 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites Mmm, just realised something from yesterday: MULLER (69) v Carlsen (110) @ 1.9 Centrebet 5pts Obviously this isn't a lower ranked favourite, I must be going mental:( :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites SAFIN (53) v Moya (30) @ 1.763 Pinnacle 5pts WAWRINKA (58) v Rusedski (46) @ 1.83 Betfred 5pts KARLOVIC (59) v Verdasco (34) @ 1.8 Pinnacle 5pts SODERLING (64) v Gonzalez (15) @ 1.83 Tote 5pts CALLERI (62) v Massu (47) @ 1.8 WillHill 5pts MALISSE (49) v Santoro (37) @ 1.758 Pinnacle 5pts CAPDEVILLE (107) v Sanguinetti (51) @ 1.877 Pinnacle 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 12, 2006 Author Share Posted March 12, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites God I'm falling behind with the updating. A lot of these haven't played yet because of the rain:sad . So if I repeat any you know why:lol. FISH (294) v Volandri (33) @ 1.57 WillHill 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites HAAS (28) v Agassi (9) @ 1.61 Bet365 5pts HENMAN (45) v Berdych (25) @ 1.96 Betfair 5pts SAFIN (53) v Davydenko (5) @ 1.72 Betdirect 5pts SODERLING (64) v Andreev (26) @ 1.82 Betfair 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbi Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites hi mr. I. i ran this system thru my database of tennis matches so far this season and it gave a small loss. the only positive system i could find was 'lower ranked players in non grand slam tournaments'. returns would have been improved a little by ignoring hard court matches. minimal profits though, not enough for me to want to take on the system, plus i have no interest in tennis really so never know when th tournaments are coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbi Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites - i think that lower ranked players are definitely the ones to go for, but some other filter is needed as well. just the first idea that came into my head - how about head to head record? maybe only bet if the lower ranked player has a positive h2h record or has never played the opponent before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 14, 2006 Author Share Posted March 14, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites BAGHDATIS (27) v Gaudio (8) @ 1.53 Paddy Power 5pts Hi sbi, thanks for the interest, I'll reply to you later when I have more time:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 15, 2006 Author Share Posted March 15, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites SAFIN (53) v Nieminen (24) @ 1.5 Ladbrokes 5pts HAAS (28) v Blake (14) @ 1.83 Bet365 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites KIM (122) v Melzer (77) @ 1.833 Pinnacle 5pts FISH (265) v Hernych (90) @ 1.61 Pinnacle 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites KUNITSYN (120) v Montanes (89) @ 1.36 SportingOdds 5pts SPADEA (79) v Seppi (54) @ 1.833 Pinnacle 5pts MAYER (63) v Horna (46) @ 1.72 Tote 5pts PAVEL (88) v Martin (66) @ 1.88 Centrebet 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites LLODRA (145) v Volandri (31) @ 1.53 Bet365 5pts CALLERI (65) v Monfils (29) @ 1.9 Coral 5pts MALISSE (40) v Stepanek (16) @ 1.66 BlueSq 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 25, 2006 Author Share Posted March 25, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites TURSUNOV (36) v Ferrero (15) @ 1.72 Skybet 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 25, 2006 Author Share Posted March 25, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites SPADEA (79) v Verdasco (32) @ 1.83 Bet365 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 25, 2006 Author Share Posted March 25, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites DJOKOVIC (66) v Coria (7) @ 1.66 Ladbrokes 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 25, 2006 Author Share Posted March 25, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites BAGHDATIS (26) v Davydenko (5) @ 1.83 Bet365 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 27, 2006 Author Share Posted March 27, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites GROSJEAN (20) v Ferrer (11) @ 1.56 Betfair 5pts O ROCHUS (30) v Coria (7) @ 1.72 Tote 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites O ROCHUS (30) v Ferrer (11) @ 1.53 WillHill 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted April 6, 2006 Author Share Posted April 6, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites Crap, still haven't updated this. I will do over the weekend, promise:lol :lol SAFIN (50) v Gasquet (16) @ 1.8 Pinnacle 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted April 9, 2006 Author Share Posted April 9, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites LJUBICIC (5) v Nalbandian (3) @ 1.909 5pts GASQUET (16) v Daveydenko (6) @ 1.847 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted April 9, 2006 Author Share Posted April 9, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites Tursunov replaced Davydenko so that one's void:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetallicIan Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites Crap, still haven't updated this. I will do over the weekend, promise:lol :lol SAFIN (50) v Gasquet (16) @ 1.8 Pinnacle 5pts Any chance of that update mr. I?:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted April 9, 2006 Author Share Posted April 9, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites Any chance of that update mr. I?:) :lol :lol :lol :lol It's so daunting, I've forgotten most of the results:$ :$ :$. I'm sure it's doing better than it was, and there's still 90 minutes of the weekend left:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted April 9, 2006 Author Share Posted April 9, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites HENMAN (49) v Lopez (38) @ 1.66 Stan James 5pts :D WON profit 3.3pts TIPSAREVIC (99) v Vik (75) @ 1.53 Coral 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts CARLSEN (125) v Zib (67) @ 1.61 Sporting Odds 5pts :D WON profit 3.05pts VANEK (106) v Behrend (101) @ 1.877 Pinnacle 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts DEL POTRO (146) v Montanes (96) @ 1.75 WillHill 5pts :\ VOID EL AYNAOUI (211) v Moodie (70) @ 1.901 Pinnacle 5pts :D WON profit 4.505pts ALMAGRO (100) v Vicente (95) @ 1.69 Pinnacle 5pts :D WON profit 3.45pts KARLOVIC (61) v Sanguinetti (47)@ 1.781 Pinnacle 5pts :D WON profit 3.905pts FISH (325) v Amritraj (241) @ 1.53 Sporting Odds 5pts :D WON profit 2.65pts MURRAY (42) v Robredo (18) @ 1.61 Bet365 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts SAFIN (53) v O Rushus (36) @ 1.57 Bet365 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts CALLERI (69) v Martin (58) @ 1.813 Pinnacle 5pts :D WON profit 4.065pts ALMAGRO (100) v Montanes (96) @ 1.9 WillHill 5pts :D WON profit 4.5pts GOLDSTEIN (63) v Martin (60) @ 1.67 Pinnacle 5pts :D WON profit 3.35pts FISH (294) v G Lapentti (289) @ 1.671 Pinnacle 5pts :D WON profit 3.355pts SCHUETTLER (78) v Pashanski (56) @ 1.57 Ladbrokes 5pts :D WON profit 2.85pts CALLERI (62) v Massu (47) @ 1.80 WillHill 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts SAFIN (53) v Moya (30) @ 1.763 Pinnacle 5pts :D WON profit 3.815pts WAWRINKA (58) v Rusedski (46) @ 1.83 Betfred 5pts :D WON profit 4.15pts KARLOVIC (59) v Verdasco (34) @ 1.8 Pinnacle 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts SODERLING (64) v Gonzalez (15) @ 1.83 Tote 5pts :D WON profit 4.15pts MALISSE (49) v Santoro (37) @ 1.758 Pinnacle 5pts :D WON profit 3.79pts CAPDEVILLE (107) v Sanguinetti (51) @ 1.877 Pinnacle 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts FISH (294) v Volandri (33) @ 1.57 WillHill 5pts :D WON profit 2.85pts HAAS (28) v Agassi (9) @ 1.61 Bet365 5pts :D WON profit 3.05pts HENMAN (45) v Berdych (25) @ 1.96 Betfair 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts SAFIN (53) v Davydenko (5) @ 1.72 Betdirect 5pts :D WON profit 3.6pts SODERLING (64) v Andreev (26) @ 1.82 Betfair 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts BAGHDATIS (27) v Gaudio (8) @ 1.53 Paddy Power 5pts :D WON profit 2.65pts SAFIN (53) v Nieminen (24) @ 1.5 Ladbrokes 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts HAAS (28) v Blake (14) @ 1.83 Bet365 5pts :\ VOID KIM (122) v Melzer (77) @ 1.833 Pinnacle 5pts :D WON profit 4.165pts FISH (265) v Hernych (90) @ 1.61 Pinnacle 5pts :D WON profit 3.05pts KUNITSYN (120) v Montanes (89) @ 1.36 SportingOdds 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts SPADEA (79) v Seppi (54) @ 1.833 Pinnacle 5pts :D WON profit 4.165pts MAYER (63) v Horna (46) @ 1.72 Tote 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts PAVEL (88) v Martin (66) @ 1.88 Centrebet 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts LLODRA (145) v Volandri (31) @ 1.53 Bet365 5pts:@ LOST loss 5pts CALLERI (65) v Monfils (29) @ 1.9 Coral 5pts :D WON profit 4.5pts MALISSE (40) v Stepanek (16) @ 1.66 BlueSq 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts TURSUNOV (36) v Ferrero (15) @ 1.72 Skybet 5pts :D WON profit 3.6pts SPADEA (79) v Verdasco (32) @ 1.83 Bet365 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts DJOKOVIC (66) v Coria (7) @ 1.66 Ladbrokes 5pts:@ LOST loss 5pts BAGHDATIS (26) v Davydenko (5) @ 1.83 Bet365 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts GROSJEAN (20) v Ferrer (11) @ 1.56 Betfair 5pts :@ LOST loss 5pts O ROCHUS (30) v Coria (7) @ 1.72 Tote 5pts :D WON profit 3.6pts O ROCHUS (30) v Ferrer (11) @ 1.53 WillHill 5pts:@ LOST loss 5pts SAFIN (50) v Gasquet (16) @ 1.8 Pinnacle 5pts :D WON profit 4pts LJUBICIC (5) v Nalbandian (3) @ 1.909 5pts :D WON profit 4.545pts That's a 0.765pts profit since the last update:lol :lol :lol W/L = 51/43 Staked = 470pts Profit = -42.82pts Yield = -9.11% God I need a lie down:\ :\ :\ :\ :\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites MONTANES (93) v Ginepri (19) @ 1.88 Betfair 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites STARACE (80) v Dlouhy (74) @ 1.55 Expekt 5pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matjnewton Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites Gday Are you manually comparing the draws with the rankings..? Mat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmphill Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites :welcome to the PL Mat. I'm sure Mr I will be along soon enough to answer your question. Another Ginepri loss adds to your winners Mr I, nice one and thats one fcuk of an update!!:loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matjnewton Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites Well having read the thread I'm actually wondering why the system backs the lower ranked person at shorter odds. Looks to me like a reverse would be better - backing the higher ranked player. Anyone care to comment? mat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 Re: Tennis Lower Ranked Favourites Well having read the thread I'm actually wondering why the system backs the lower ranked person at shorter odds. Looks to me like a reverse would be better - backing the higher ranked player. Anyone care to comment? mat. Hi Mat, thanks for your interest:ok. The theory is that the ranking of the player is over-factored into the price. So other factors such as form, surface preference, fatigue etc which are short-term factors are under-factored into the price. The perfect example is Roddick on clay: he's pathetic on European clay, but is sometimes favourite or a small outsider during the clay court season against proper clay court players. So in this situation, I'm saying that when he is the outsider, the bookmakers are scared to make him a really huge price (which sometimes he should be) because the name and ranking will still attract a lot of people to bet on him. It was exactly the same with Ginepri last night, he's in awful form and awful on clay, up against a solid clay courter. The bookies were never going to make him 3.00 or higher because a lot of money would have went on him because of the name or ranking, but perhaps he should have been that big. As you can see it isn't going too well, but it has performed in the past and hopefully it should good in the next couple of months backing the Spaniards and South Americans all the mug money has never heard of:tongue2 :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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