slapdash Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Van Cleef 1.10 Ayr (SP) B. Kempski 1.10 Ayr (SP) C. Cinema 2.10 Ayr (SP) Bets: AC, BC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Van Cleef 1.10 Ayr (SP) lost B. Kempski 1.10 Ayr (SP) placed (14/1) C. Cinema 2.10 Ayr (SP) lost 4 points lost. Starting bank: 1000 points. Staked: 756 points. Current bank: 1077.96. P/L: +77.96. (win -180.50, place +258.46) Yield: +10.31% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Re: EW Double System Been round to the bookies and what a waste of time FIRE AT AYR meeting called of after third Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Re: EW Double System Been round to the bookies and what a waste of time FIRE AT AYR meeting called of after third Why did they have to wait until after all my losers to call it off? :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 24, 2006 Author Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Ornella Speed 1.40 Sedgefield (9/1) B. Keepthedreamalive 3.50 Leicester (SP) C. Mythical King 3.50 Leicester (SP) Bets: AB, AC at Betfred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 24, 2006 Author Share Posted January 24, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Ornella Speed 1.40 Sedgefield (9/1) placed B. Keepthedreamalive 3.50 Leicester (SP) lost C. Mythical King 3.50 Leicester (SP) lost 4 points lost. Starting bank: 1000 points. Staked: 760 points. Current bank: 1073.96. P/L: +73.96. (win -182.50, place +256.46) Yield: +9.73% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Common Girl 2.00 Catterick (SP) B. Diamond Cutter 3.00 Catterick (40/1) Bet: AB at Bet365. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Common Girl 2.00 Catterick (SP) lost B. Diamond Cutter 3.00 Catterick (40/1) lost 2 points lost. Starting bank: 1000 points. Staked: 762 points. Current bank: 1071.96. P/L: +71.96. (win -183.50, place +255.46) Yield: +9.44% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Adventurist 2.00 Ludlow (SP) B. Norma Hill 2.30 Ludlow (SP) C. Sola AtEm 2.30 Ludlow (SP) D. Imperial Rocket 2.30 Ludlow (SP) E. Great As Gold 2.20 Southwell (SP) Bets: all 7 doubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Adventurist 2.00 Ludlow (SP) placed (12/1) B. Norma Hill 2.30 Ludlow (SP) won (100/30) C. Sola AtEm 2.30 Ludlow (SP) lost D. Imperial Rocket 2.30 Ludlow (SP) placed (80/1) E. Great As Gold 2.20 Southwell (SP) placed (9/2) Bets with returns: AB returned 5.667 points. AD returned 57.8 points. AE returned 6.46 points. BE returned 3.167 points. DE returned 32.3 points. With 14 points staked, that's a profit of 91.39 points. Starting bank: 1000 points. Staked: 776 points. Current bank: 1163.35. P/L: +163.35. (win -190.50, place +353.85) Yield: +21.05% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Enchance Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: EW Double System Very nice mate :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Re: EW Double System Thanks. Guess which one I didn't put on Sports Punter? :eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Hollywood 1.00 Winc (SP) B. Gulshique 1.00 Winc (SP) C. Art Virginia 2.00 Winc (SP) D. Hill Forts Tommy 2.00 Winc (SP) E. Le Burf 4.30 Winc (SP) F. Parish House 4.30 Winc (SP) Bets: All 12 doubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: EW Double System Hi slapdash I wonder if it would not be better if you spilt your bet in half and had 1/2 pt EW and 1/2 pt EW ALL EW and the reason i say this because you get some nice price winners with some good placed ones. i know if you had 2 winners or more you would lose out and if you had 2 placed or more but looking at a few of your last results you would have been better of EW ALL EW. thats why if you split the bet you would get the best of both worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward2k Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: EW Double System Nice one Slap! :ok Missed out on Hollywood in the first as I wasn't able to get online earlier. :cry But liked the look of Hill Forts Tommy. Got on e/w at 12/1. :cow 1st (3) Hollywood 20-1 2nd (1) Ben's Turn 2-11 Fav 3rd (10) The Laying Hen 100-1 1st (1) Gungadu 1-5 Fav 2nd (5) Hill Forts Timmy 12-1 3rd (2) Malaga Boy 50-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: EW Double System Hi slapdash I wonder if it would not be better if you spilt your bet in half and had 1/2 pt EW and 1/2 pt EW ALL EW and the reason i say this because you get some nice price winners with some good placed ones. i know if you had 2 winners or more you would lose out and if you had 2 placed or more but looking at a few of your last results you would have been better of EW ALL EW. thats why if you split the bet you would get the best of both worlds. EW ALL EW means that all the return from the first bet is split equally between win and place for the second bet, does it? The reason I don't do it like this is that the horses I pick are ones where I believe that there is a lot of value in the place half of the bet, but not in the win half. Then the point of putting them in EW doubles is to magnify the profits from the place bets and diminish the losses from the win bets. For example, if a win single lost on average 50% of the stake, but a place single won on average 50% of the stake, then an EW single or an EW ALL EW double would break even on average, but a normal EW double would on average lose 75% of the win stake, but win 125% of the place stake. That's just an example: the 50% figure is too high in both cases. Of course, it's frustrating when I get just one winner at a good price, so it goes to waste. But the profit is coming from the place doubles. In the stats I'm keeping, you'll see that I've split the profit between win and place halves of the bets. And currently I've made almost enough profit from the place doubles to pay for the stakes on the win doubles, but I'm losing about half of the win stake. So I'm happy to make a small loss while I get some returns from the place doubles, and wait for the occasional big payday when a win double comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: EW Double System Nice one Slap! :ok Thanks, Hayward. A winner in the 4:30 would be welcome to go with Hollywood. But even a place will give a good profit on the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Hollywood 1.00 Winc (SP) won (20/1) B. Gulshique 1.00 Winc (SP) lost C. Art Virginia 2.00 Winc (SP) lost D. Hill Forts Tommy 2.00 Winc (SP) placed (12/1) E. Le Burf 4.30 Winc (SP) lost F. Parish House 4.30 Winc (SP) lost Oh well! AD returned 20 points, so with 24 staked that's a 4 point loss. Starting bank: 1000 points. Staked: 800 points. Current bank: 1159.35. P/L: +159.35. (win -202.50, place +361.85) Yield: +19.92% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE % MAN Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Re: EW Double System Hi slapdash I wonder if it would not be better if you spilt your bet in half and had 1/2 pt EW and 1/2 pt EW ALL EW and the reason i say this because you get some nice price winners with some good placed ones. i know if you had 2 winners or more you would lose out and if you had 2 placed or more but looking at a few of your last results you would have been better of EW ALL EW. thats why if you split the bet you would get the best of both worlds. Yes i do understand what you are saying, the odds are staked against you finding winners once your Sps are above 20/1 but on the place side they will do better than most people think and it was just that you had a few winners lately . It does mean equal about as you say in your reply but i was not surgesting all the stake should be equal about only half and the other half ew. But what you are doing is working very well for you and may it carry on doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Angelina Bankes 3.20 Wolverhampton (100/30) B. Miss Inch 4.50 Wolverhampton (10/1) C. Hilversum 4.50 Wolverhampton (SP) Bets: AB, AC at Stan James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 3, 2006 Author Share Posted February 3, 2006 Re: EW Double System D. Bekoning 3.20 Wolverhampton (33/1) Bet: CD at Sporting Odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 5, 2006 Author Share Posted February 5, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Angelina Bankes 3.20 Wolverhampton (100/30) placed B. Miss Inch 4.50 Wolverhampton (10/1) lost C. Hilversum 4.50 Wolverhampton (SP) lost D. Bekoning 3.20 Wolverhampton (33/1) lost 6 points lost. Starting bank: 1000 points. Staked: 806 points. Current bank: 1153.35. P/L: +153.35. (win -205.50, place +358.85) Yield: +19.03% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. More Likely 2.20 Carl (SP) B. Jonty's Lass 2.20 Carl (SP) C. Iron Man 2.55 Carl (3/1) D. Triple Deal 4.35 Carl (6/1) E. Scroll 4.15 Ling (7/1) F. Star Magnitude 4.45 Ling (13/2) G. Border Edge 4.45 Ling (10/1) Bets: AC, BC at Bet365. All 13 doubles involving A,B,D,E,F,G at Stan James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. More Likely 2.20 Carl (SP) lost B. Jonty's Lass 2.20 Carl (SP) won (20/1) C. Iron Man 2.55 Carl (3/1) lost D. Triple Deal 4.35 Carl (6/1) lost E. Scroll 4.15 Ling (7/1) placed F. Star Magnitude 4.45 Ling (13/2) won G. Border Edge 4.45 Ling (10/1) lost Bets with returns: BE returned 12 points. BF returned 169 points. EF returned 5.52 points. With 30 points staked, that's a profit of 156.52 points. Starting bank: 1000 points. Staked: 836 points. Current bank: 1309.87. P/L: +309.87. (win -63.00, place +372.87) Yield: +37.07% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Winapenny 4.55 Ayr (4/1) B. Its Wallace Junior 2.05 Newbury (16/1) C. Fiddlers Wood 2.00 Lingfield (SP) D. Junior des Ormeaux 2.15 Ayr (SP) E. Moonlit Harbour 2.15 Ayr (SP) Bets: All 9 doubles at Totesport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Winapenny 4.55 Ayr (4/1) lost B. Its Wallace Junior 2.05 Newbury (16/1) non-runner C. Fiddlers Wood 2.00 Lingfield (SP) placed (5/1) D. Junior des Ormeaux 2.15 Ayr (SP) placed (9/1) E. Moonlit Harbour 2.15 Ayr (SP) lost Bets with returns: BC returned 2 points. BD returned 2.8 points. CD returned 5.6 points. With 18 points staked, that's a 7.6 point loss.. Starting bank: 1000 points. Staked: 854 points. Current bank: 1302.27. P/L: +302.27. (win -72.00, place +374.27) Yield: +35.39% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Colline de Fleurs 2.10 Hereford (SP) B. Don and Gerry 2.10 Hereford (SP) C. Martovic 2.10 Hereford (SP) D. Cornish Sett 3.30 Exeter (SP) E. Back Nine 3.30 Exeter (SP) Bets: All 6 doubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 Re: EW Double System F. Marhaba Millions 1.20 Leopardstown (SP) G. First Row 1.20 Leopardstown (SP) H. Hedgehunter 3.55 Leopardstown (SP). Bets: All doubles (that makes 23 including the earlier ones). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 Re: EW Double System I. Dunsfold Duke 5.00 Exeter (9/2) J. Commander Kev 5.00 Exeter (5/1) Bets: All 16 doubles involving I,J (together with each of A-H), at Sporting Odds. That makes 39 bets (78 points) in total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 Re: EW Double System A. Colline de Fleurs 2.10 Hereford (SP) placed (9/2) B. Don and Gerry 2.10 Hereford (SP) non-runner C. Martovic 2.10 Hereford (SP) lost D. Cornish Sett 3.30 Exeter (SP) placed (4/1) E. Back Nine 3.30 Exeter (SP) placed (20/1) F. Marhaba Millions 1.20 Leopardstown (SP) lost G. First Row 1.20 Leopardstown (SP) placed (12/1) H. Hedgehunter 3.55 Leopardstown (SP) placed (100/30) I. Dunsfold Duke 5.00 Exeter (9/2) lost J. Commander Kev 5.00 Exeter (5/1) placed (9/2) Bets with returns: AD returned 3.42 points. AE returned 9.5 points. AG returned 6.46 points. AH returned 3.48 points. AJ returned 3.61 points. BD returned 1.8 points. BE returned 5 points. BG returned 3.4 points. BH returned 1.83 points. BJ returned 1.9 points. DG returned 6.12 points. DH returned 3.3 points. DJ returned 3.42 points. EG returned 17 points. EH returned 9.17 points. EJ returned 9.5 points. GH returned 6.23 points. GJ returned 6.46 points. HJ returned 3.48 points. With 78 points staked, that's a profit of 27.08 points. Don't suppose anybody wants to check that? ;) Starting bank: 1000 points. Staked: 932 points. Current bank: 1329.35. P/L: +329.35. (win -111.00, place +440.35) Yield: +35.34%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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