Binchy's Lays

[Binchy]

Evening gents, For the last week or so I have been trialling two laying system, my first foray into the laying market on the basis that it must be easier to pick a loser than a winner. It has been going quite well so I thought I would give it a go posting on here. The first system is as follows and quite simple. I am not targeting any particular races or number of runners and starting with a bank of £1000. Using Betfair between 9pm - 11pm, identify the favourites for each race. Then go through the Racing Post Selections for that today. If the favourite has one or less selections by the tipsters, they go on our list. However, if the 1 selection is a * or a nb, they are wiped off the list. The next step is to check the price, which needs to be 7 or below to limit any losses. We do now want to lose more than £60 a time. Stakes are in units of £10 depending on the price but we will never risk more than £60. So, for example, if the price on betfair is 7, we will lay £10. If the price is 4, we will lay £20. If the price is 3, we will lay £30 etc. Here are the results so far : [TABLE]

[TR] [TD=width: 86]17/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]02:50:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Kem (AW)[/TD] [TD=width: 118] Wonder Weapon[/TD] [TD=width: 86]2.9[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£20.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£38.00[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Won[/TD] [TD=width: 97]£38.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]03:00:00[/TD] [TD]Wol (AW)[/TD] [TD]Jan Van Hoof[/TD] [TD]2.9[/TD] [TD]£20.00[/TD] [TD]£38.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£18.00[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]18/03/14[/TD] [TD]02:10:00[/TD] [TD]Wet[/TD] [TD]Sunblazer[/TD] [TD]5.3[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£43.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£8.00[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]02:20:00[/TD] [TD]Sou (AW)[/TD] [TD]Dancing Freddy[/TD] [TD]3.85[/TD] [TD]£20.00[/TD] [TD]£57.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£12.00[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]05:35:00[/TD] [TD]Sou (AW)[/TD] [TD]Day Star Lad[/TD] [TD]3.55[/TD] [TD]£20.00[/TD] [TD]£51.00[/TD] [TD]Won[/TD] [TD]£39.00[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]19/03/14[/TD] [TD]03:30:00[/TD] [TD]Lin (AW)[/TD] [TD]Roy's Legacy[/TD] [TD]4.8[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£38.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£29.00[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]20/03/14[/TD] [TD]02:10:00[/TD] [TD]Wol (AW)[/TD] [TD]Your Gifted[/TD] [TD]3.85[/TD] [TD]£20.00[/TD] [TD]£57.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£9.00[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]03:15:00[/TD] [TD]Wet[/TD] [TD]Bed Bed[/TD] [TD]2.68[/TD] [TD]£30.00[/TD] [TD]£50.40[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£21.00[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]21/03/14[/TD] [TD]03:00:00[/TD] [TD]Lin (AW)[/TD] [TD]The Firm[/TD] [TD]3.25[/TD] [TD]£20.00[/TD] [TD]£45.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£41.00[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]04:30:00[/TD] [TD]Sed[/TD] [TD]Ben Cee Pee M[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]£20.00[/TD] [TD]£60.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£61.00[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]08:05:00[/TD] [TD]Wol (AW)[/TD] [TD]Brown Pete[/TD] [TD]4.2[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£32.00[/TD] [TD]N/R[/TD] [TD]£61.00[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]22/03/14[/TD] [TD]01:30:00[/TD] [TD]Kel[/TD] [TD]Trust Thomas[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£50.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£71.00[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]04:25:00[/TD] [TD]Lin (AW)[/TD] [TD]Mount Shamsan[/TD] [TD]2.8[/TD] [TD]£30.00[/TD] [TD]£54.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£101.00[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]23/03/14[/TD] [TD]02:30:00[/TD] [TD]Mras[/TD] [TD]Alaccordion[/TD] [TD]5.9[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£49.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£111.00[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]24/03/14[/TD] [TD]04:50:00[/TD] [TD]Tau[/TD] [TD]Sin Bin[/TD] [TD]3.45[/TD] [TD]£20.00[/TD] [TD]£49.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£131.00[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]02:30:00[/TD] [TD]Tow[/TD] [TD]Fair Bramble[/TD] [TD]4.9[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£39.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£141.00[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]25/03/14[/TD] [TD]05:15:00[/TD] [TD]Che[/TD] [TD]Theunamedsoldier[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]£20.00[/TD] [TD]£60.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£161.00[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]05:25:00[/TD] [TD]Fon[/TD] [TD]Frampton[/TD] [TD]4.9[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£39.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£171.00[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] The second system is a little more specific and therefore produces less selections, but up to yet has a 100% strike rate (You have every right to be sceptical, I could have just completely made these up and the first selection will now probably be a loser). We are looking at Handicaps with 12 or more runners (I use Sporting Life website for this as it is set out in an easy way). You may find 2-5 races a day that fit the criteria. Again we use Betfair to identify the favourite for the race. We then use the Racing Post to have a look at the selections RPR (Racing Post Rating) and the ratings of the rest of the horses in race (you can use the RP website to sort the horses in order of highest to lowest RPR) If the favourite does not appear within the first five top RPR's, then we have a selection. Again, I use the same staking plan and start with the same £1000 bank. The results so far are as follows : [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]17/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]04:10:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Sou[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Area Access[/TD] [TD=width: 86]1.89[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£20.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£37.60[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lost[/TD] [TD=width: 97]£20.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]18/03/14[/TD] [TD]02:30:00[/TD] [TD]Exe[/TD] [TD]Kings Apollo[/TD] [TD]5.6[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£56.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£30.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]19/03/14[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]No Bet[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]£30.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]20/03/14[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]No Bet[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]£30.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]21/03/14[/TD] [TD]05:25:00[/TD] [TD]Newb[/TD] [TD]Foggy's Wall[/TD] [TD]4.9[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£49.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£40.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]22/03/14[/TD] [TD]04:30:00[/TD] [TD]Ban[/TD] [TD]Warden Hill[/TD] [TD]2.2[/TD] [TD]£20.00[/TD] [TD]£44.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£60.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]04:15:00[/TD] [TD]Kel[/TD] [TD]Newdane Dancer[/TD] [TD]4.5[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£45.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£70.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]23/03/14[/TD] [TD]02:30:00[/TD] [TD]Mras[/TD] [TD]Alaccordion[/TD] [TD]4.9[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£49.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£80.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]24/03/14[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]No Bet[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]25/03/14[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]No Bet[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] For the purposes of this thread I will be starting from £1000 again and joining the systems together so just having one bank rather than two. Hopefully the good run will continue. I will post tomorrows selections in the next post.

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Tomorrows Selections : [TABLE]

[TR] [TD]Date[/TD] [TD]Time[/TD] [TD]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liability[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD]26/03/14[/TD] [TD]05:00:00[/TD] [TD]Lin (AW)[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Black Truffle[/TD] [TD=width: 86]6.8[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£58.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

[Seeks]

Re: Binchy's Lays This is very interesting Binchy. Are you going to split selections in to the two systems? i think your second system had a lot of merit, a the RP ratings are normally pretty accurate, so if it's outside the top 5 it's unlikely to win.

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Hi Seeks, Yes I suppose I could do. Black Truffle was the selection using the RP Ratings. I must heave been dreaming when I posted this anyway as Perfect Pastime price has never been anywhere near that, so I will remove that selection and we will just go with Black Truffle for today. I think for future use as well I will post the prices in the morning after the market has a little more liquidity.

[gbettle]

Re: Binchy's Lays Nice simple system Binchy :ok

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Result : [TABLE]

[TR] [TD]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liabilty[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Result[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Profit/Loss[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD]26/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]05:00:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lin (AW)[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Black Truffle[/TD] [TD=width: 86]5.8[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£58.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lost[/TD] [TD=width: 97]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 97][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Good start, Perfect Pastime didn't win the race either. Both were unplaced. Bank - £1010 Selections - 1 Losers - 1 Strike rate - 100%

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays No selections for tomorrow.

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Tomorrows selections : System 1 (RP selections Based) [TABLE]

[TR] [TD]Date[/TD] [TD]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liability[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD]28/03/14[/TD] [TD]02:00:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lin (AW)[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Tappanappa[/TD] [TD=width: 86]3.1[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£20.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£42.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]06:30:00[/TD] [TD]Wol (AW)[/TD] [TD]Louis Vee[/TD] [TD]NO BET[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]08:30:00[/TD] [TD]Wol (AW)[/TD] [TD]Caramack[/TD] [TD]2.98[/TD] [TD]£30.00[/TD] [TD]£59.40[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] System 2 (Hcaps, 12+, RPR based) [TABLE] [TR] [TD]28/03/14[/TD] [TD]03:20:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Wet[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Bobs World[/TD] [TD=width: 86]NO BET[/TD] [TD=width: 86][/TD] [TD=width: 86][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]06:30:00[/TD] [TD]Wol (AW)[/TD] [TD]Louis Vee[/TD] [TD]NO BET[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] As you can see, Louis Vee qualifies under both systems, three of them are price dependent so will check back in the morning and edit where necessary. **UPDATE** Selections above do not fit into price criteria, no bet.

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays yesterdays results : [TABLE]

[TR] [TD]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liability[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Result[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Profit/Loss[/TD] [TD=width: 86][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD]28/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]02:00:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lin (AW)[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Tappanappa[/TD] [TD=width: 86]2.1[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£20.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£42.00[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Lost[/TD] [TD=width: 97]£20.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]08:30:00[/TD] [TD]Wol (AW)[/TD] [TD]Caramack[/TD] [TD]1.98[/TD] [TD]£30.00[/TD] [TD]£59.40[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£50.00[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Bank - £1060 Selections - 3 Losers - 3 Strike rate - 100%

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Today's Selections : System 1 : [TABLE]

[TR] [TD]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liability[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD]29/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]01:30:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Don[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Flyball[/TD] [TD=width: 86]5[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£40.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]02:10:00[/TD] [TD]Utt[/TD] [TD]Heurtevent[/TD] [TD]6.2[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£52.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]05:00:00[/TD] [TD]Don[/TD] [TD]Cropley[/TD] [TD]6.6[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£56.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] System 2 : [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liabilty[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD]29/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]05:00:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Don[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Cropley[/TD] [TD=width: 86]6.6[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£56.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]02:10:00[/TD] [TD]Utt[/TD] [TD]Heurtevent[/TD] [TD]6.6[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£56.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Just a note to add as well in relation to system 1, I have also made a note of all the horse who qualify for the system that are not the favs but still fit the price criteria. These are : [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]29/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86][/TD] [TD=width: 86][/TD] [TD=width: 118][/TD] [TD=width: 86][/TD] [TD=width: 86][/TD] [TD=width: 86][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]02:05:00[/TD] [TD]Don[/TD] [TD]Fencing[/TD] [TD]3.4[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£34.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]02:40:00[/TD] [TD]Don[/TD] [TD]Tropics[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£50.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Maureen[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£60.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]04:25:00[/TD] [TD]Don[/TD] [TD]Romsdal[/TD] [TD]2.65[/TD] [TD]£20.00[/TD] [TD]£53.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Cape Caster[/TD] [TD]5.4[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£54.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]01:50:00[/TD] [TD]Kem (AW)[/TD] [TD]Powerful Storm[/TD] [TD]5.8[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£58.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]04:05:00[/TD] [TD]Kem (AW)[/TD] [TD]Knockroon[/TD] [TD]5.6[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£56.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]04:40:00[/TD] [TD]Kem (AW)[/TD] [TD]Intransigent[/TD] [TD]4.1[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£41.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]05:15:00[/TD] [TD]Kem (AW)[/TD] [TD]Certavi[/TD] [TD]4.6[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£46.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]03:05:00[/TD] [TD]Str[/TD] [TD]Viking Blond[/TD] [TD]2.35[/TD] [TD]£20.00[/TD] [TD]£47.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]04:15:00[/TD] [TD]Str[/TD] [TD]Court By Surprise[/TD] [TD]4.6[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£46.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Forgotten Gold[/TD] [TD]5.6[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£56.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]05:25:00[/TD] [TD]Str[/TD] [TD]Superior Fire[/TD] [TD]2.8[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£56.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Henllan Harri[/TD] [TD]4.4[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£44.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]04:30:00[/TD] [TD]Utt[/TD] [TD]Munsaab[/TD] [TD]5.6[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£56.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] So we will see how these go.

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Today's Results : System 1 [TABLE]

[TR] [TD]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liability[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Result[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Profit/Loss[/TD] [TD=width: 86][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD]29/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]01:30:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Don[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Flyball[/TD] [TD=width: 86]5[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£40.00[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Lost[/TD] [TD=width: 97]£10.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]02:10:00[/TD] [TD]Utt[/TD] [TD]Heurtevent[/TD] [TD]6.2[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£52.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£20.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]05:00:00[/TD] [TD]Don[/TD] [TD]Cropley[/TD] [TD]6.6[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£56.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£30.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] System 2 : [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liability[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Result[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Profit/Loss[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD]29/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]05:00:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Don[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Cropley[/TD] [TD=width: 86]6.6[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£56.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lost[/TD] [TD=width: 97]£10.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]02:10:00[/TD] [TD]Utt[/TD] [TD]Heurtevent[/TD] [TD]6.2[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£52.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£20.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Bank - £1110 Selections - 8 Losers - 8 Strike rate - 100% Incredible day, just also a note to say that also, out of the 15 selections listed above which I said fit the price criteria but were not favs, all 15 lost, which would have added on an extra £170 to the profit. Will keep testing these also.

[gbettle]

Re: Binchy's Lays Brilliant results!

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Today's Selections : System 1 : [TABLE]

[TR] [TD]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liability[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD]30/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]04:45:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Asc[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Leo Luna[/TD] [TD=width: 86]6[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£50.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] System 2 : [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liabilty[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD]30/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]04:45:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Asc[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Leo Luna[/TD] [TD=width: 86]6[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£50.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]05:30:00[/TD] [TD]Don[/TD] [TD]Aficionado[/TD] [TD]4.8[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£38.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] As again with system 1, here are the selections that fit the price criteria that are not favs : [TABLE] [TR] [TD]02:00:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Asc[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Now Ben[/TD] [TD=width: 86]4.8[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£38.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]02:30:00[/TD] [TD]Asc[/TD] [TD]Superior Quality[/TD] [TD]6.4[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£54.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]03:00:00[/TD] [TD]Asc[/TD] [TD]Aalim[/TD] [TD]5.7[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£47.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]05:15:00[/TD] [TD]Asc[/TD] [TD]Martys Mission[/TD] [TD]4.8[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£38.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]02:45:00[/TD] [TD]Don[/TD] [TD]That Is The Spirit[/TD] [TD]6.2[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£52.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]03:55:00[/TD] [TD]Don[/TD] [TD]Chancery[/TD] [TD]5.8[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£48.00[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]04:30:00[/TD] [TD]Don[/TD] [TD]Notarised[/TD] [TD]5.7[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£47.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

[Seeks]

Re: Binchy's Lays I agree with the rational so much that I joined you in the two system selections today. So good luck!

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Yesterdays Results : System 1 : [TABLE]

[TR] [TD=width: 86]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liability[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Result[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Profit/Loss[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]30/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]04:45:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Asc[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Leo Luna[/TD] [TD=width: 86]6[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£50.00[/TD] [TD=width: 97]N/R[/TD] [TD=width: 97]£0[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] System 2 : [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liabilty[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Result[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Profit/Loss[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]30/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]04:45:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Asc[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Leo Luna[/TD] [TD=width: 86]6[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£50.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]N/R[/TD] [TD=width: 97]£0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]05:30:00[/TD] [TD]Don[/TD] [TD]Aficionado[/TD] [TD]4.8[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [TD]£38.00[/TD] [TD]Lost[/TD] [TD]£10.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Bank - £1120 Selections - 9 Losers - 9 Strike rate - 100% The additional selections found one winner, but still would have returned a small extra profit of £8.

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Today's Selections : System 1 : [TABLE]

[TR] [TD=width: 86]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liability[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]31/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]05:30:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Kem (AW)[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Manor Way[/TD] [TD=width: 86]3.85[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£20.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£57.00 [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] System 2 : No Selections.

[Dan82]

Re: Binchy's Lays Understand the second system, they both seem successful, but I'm a little vague on the first qualifying criteria. Are you assuming the tipsters are just plain wrong?

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Hi Dan, quite the opposite really, I am assuming the majority of the tipsters are right. These are people who (presumably) are paid on a daily basis to select a horse from more or less every race everyday. You have to assume that they are relatively successful and possibly have access to more insider information than the everyday punter. There are around 12 tipsters who put up a selection everyday, so if the market leader has 1 or 0 selections out of 12, that obviously indicates they are not fancied by the 'professional' tipsters. The danger obviously is that the favourite is at the top of the market due to heavy market support from people even more 'in the know' than they are. Hope this explains.

[gbettle]

Re: Binchy's Lays Sound advice Binchy

[Dan82]

Re: Binchy's Lays Is that a paid tipster service?

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Not strictly speaking Dan, they are mostly newspaper tipsters I believe, who I assume are paid by the newspaper for giving out the tips and would therefore not be kept on if they were not very good.

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays http://www.racingpost.com/news/tips_home.sd#topHorseTabs=press_challenge_form I don't know if anyone can access this link or if you have to be a RP member, but here is some further info. So, it would seem they are competing for a prize.

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Today's Results : [TABLE]

[TR] [TD=width: 86]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liability[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Result[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Profit/Loss[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]31/03/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]05:30:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Kem (AW)[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Manor Way[/TD] [TD=width: 86]3.85[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£20.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£57.00[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Lost[/TD] [TD=width: 97]£20.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Bank - £1140 Selections - 10 Losers - 10 Strike rate - 100% I just want to take this opportunity to point out, before anyone else does, that System 2 is a variation of a system that I found on the internet and I am in no way claiming to have thought it up from scratch. The laying system of targeting weak favourites in handicaps with 12+ runners to my knowledge has been around for quite a while, but that system involves following market moves close to the off which I do not have time to do, so this is my variation of it.

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Tomorrow's Selections : System 1 : [TABLE]

[TR] [TD=width: 86]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liabilty[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]01/04/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]05:20:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Kem (AW)[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Ghost Train[/TD] [TD=width: 86]7[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£60.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] System 2 : [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liability[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]01/04/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]05:20:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Kem (AW)[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Ghost Train[/TD] [TD=width: 86]7[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£60.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Same selection falls under both systems.

[BillyHills]

Re: Binchy's Lays Good stuff Binchy:ok

[steve82]

Re: Binchy's Lays Hi, Great going and many thanks for posting,just looked at betfair prices at 11am, and the favourite is sweet talking at 5-3 do you think this would make a differance to your system that is the 5-30 at kempton

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Hi Steve, just had a quick look at this. Sweet Talking Guy would not fit into System 1, as he has 4 selections on the RP website. The horse would just fit into System 2 (6th best on RPR's). As I say, I tend to look at the initial prices the night before and see who is favourite then, but at weekends sometimes I do pick them out in the morning. It is completely up to you if you want to place the bet.

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Today's Results : System 1 : [TABLE]

[TR] [TD=width: 86]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liability[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Result[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Profit/Loss[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]01/04/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]05:20:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Kem (AW)[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Ghost Train[/TD] [TD=width: 86]7[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£60.00[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Lost[/TD] [TD=width: 97]£10.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] System 2 : [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liabilty[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Result[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Profit/Loss[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]01/04/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]05:20:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Kem (AW)[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Ghost Train[/TD] [TD=width: 86]6[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£60.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lost[/TD] [TD=width: 97]£10.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Bank - £1160 Selections - 12 Losers - 12 Strike rate - 100%

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Tomorrow's Selections : System 1 : [TABLE]

[TR] [TD=width: 86]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liability[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]02/04/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]02:45:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Win[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Kettlewell[/TD] [TD=width: 86]6.9[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£59.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] System 2 : [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liabilty[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]02/04/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]04:15:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Win[/TD] [TD=width: 114]V Neck[/TD] [TD=width: 86]4.94[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£39.40[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

[Binchy]

Re: Binchy's Lays Today's Results : System 1 : [TABLE]

[TR] [TD=width: 86]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liability[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Result[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Profit/Loss[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]02/04/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]02:45:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Win[/TD] [TD=width: 118]Kettlewell[/TD] [TD=width: 86]6.9[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£59.00[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Lost[/TD] [TD=width: 97]£10.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] System 2 : [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]Date[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Time[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Course[/TD] [TD=width: 114]Horse[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Price[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lay[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Liabilty[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Result[/TD] [TD=width: 97]Profit/Loss[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD=width: 86]02/04/14[/TD] [TD=width: 86]04:15:00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Win[/TD] [TD=width: 114]V Neck[/TD] [TD=width: 86]4.94[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£10.00[/TD] [TD=width: 86]£39.40[/TD] [TD=width: 86]Lost[/TD] [TD=width: 97]£10.00[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Bank - £1180 Selections - 14 Losers - 14 Strike rate - 100%