World Matchplay - 20-28 July

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The second biggest tournament of the season comes along next week with the World Matchplay in Blackpool. This is always a fabulous tournament and this year should be the best one yet. It is all on Sky as usual. Draw, format and schedule can all be found here: http://www.pdc.tv/world-matchplay/article/dmbllew4ucl613ccn0xlzyzmg/title/betvictor-world-matchplay-drawschedule

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July Tournament preview: 1pt ew R.Thornton to win World Matchplay 28/1 Bet365 (1/2 1-2) Robert Thornton went well in the European Championship, beating Barneveld in a second round classic before going down narrowly in the quarter finals to Ronny Huybrechts. That Barneveld win showed Thornton can go toe to toe with the best though and with this draw likely to cut up at some point he should go well here. The key thing is he won’t face Lewis until the quarter finals which is important. Thornton is very consistent these days. He’s won two tournaments in 2013 and been to the quarter finals and beyond in eight more. He looks a big price at 28/1 to do some damage this week. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/world-matchplay-betting-robert-thornton-can-land-his-biggest-title-yet-in-blackpool-20130718

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July Quarter betting preview: 1pt J.Caven to win 3rd Quarter 12/1 Ladbrokes One man who won’t face van Gerwen until the quarter final is Jamie Caven. Obviously Caven has to get there first and while that isn’t a guarantee given that he has Wes Newton in the first round and either Dave Chisnall or Paul Nicholson in the second round, he is in good form and if he comes past Newton and faces Chisnall he has just walloped him in the European Championship. But for that collapse against Whitlock, Caven could easily have won that tournament but in fairness he only had one dart for the match against Whitlock so he didn’t do an awful lot wrong. He can make up for that in Blackpool with a run to at least the semi finals. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/world-matchplay-betting-jamie-caven-looks-the-value-to-michael-van-gerwen-in-the-third-quarter

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[TR] [/TR] [TR=class: row1] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn]Whitlock, S v Klaasen, J (21:30 BST)[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]1.49[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]3[/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp, align: center]100.45 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR] [TH] [/TH] [TH=class: firstColumn]Sunday 21 July 2013[/TH] [TH]Player 1[/TH] [TH]Player 2[/TH] [TH=class: bppWidth]BPP[/TH] [/TR] [TR=class: row0, bgcolor: #F0F0F0] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn]Pipe, J v Webster, M (13:00 BST)[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]1.6[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]2.62[/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp, align: center]100.60 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR=class: row1] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn]Painter, K v Lewis, J (13:50 BST)[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]1.36[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]3.5[/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp, align: center]101.90 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR=class: row0, bgcolor: #F0F0F0] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn]Huybrechts, K v Wright, P (14:40 BST)[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]1.96[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]2.04[/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp, align: center]100.04 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR=class: row1] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn]Dolan, B v Beaton, S (15:30 BST)[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]1.92[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]2.1[/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp, align: center]99.70 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR=class: row0, bgcolor: #F0F0F0] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn]King, M v Anderson, G (19:00 BST)[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]2.3[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]1.78[/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp, align: center]99.66 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR=class: row1] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn]Chisnall, D v Nicholson, P (19:50 BST)[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]1.6[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]2.75[/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp, align: center]98.86 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR=class: row0, bgcolor: #F0F0F0] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn]Taylor, P v Kellett, S (20:40 BST)[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]1.1[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]10[/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp, align: center]100.91 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR=class: row1] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn]Van Gerwen, M v Lloyd, C (21:30 BST)[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]1.14[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]7.7[/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp, align: center]100.71 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR] [TH] [/TH] [TH=class: firstColumn]Monday 22 July 2013[/TH] [TH]Player 1[/TH] [TH]Player 2[/TH] [TH=class: bppWidth]BPP[/TH] [/TR] [TR=class: row0, bgcolor: #F0F0F0] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn]Thornton, R v White, I (19:00 BST)[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]1.34[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]3.75[/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp, align: center]101.29 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR=class: row1] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn]Newton, W v Caven, J (19:50 BST)[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]1.81[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]2.12[/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp, align: center]102.42 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR=class: row0, bgcolor: #F0F0F0] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn]Lewis, A v Huybrechts, R (20:40 BST)[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]1.2[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]5.5[/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp, align: center]101.52 %[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR=class: row1] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn]Hamilton, A v Baxter, R (21:30 BST)[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]1.49[/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd, align: center]3[/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp, align: center]100.45 %[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July Saturday night previews: 4pts T.Jenkins (2.5 legs) to beat A.Smith 11/10 Ladbrokes I like Jenkins in this match. He is usually solid in this tournament and although he hasn’t got the results he would like this year he has been unlucky at times. Andy Smith will melt in the heat on that Blackpool stage. It is going to be hot enough outside let alone on a stage under all the lights. Jenkins generally has the upper hand when these two play and I think he can have it again here. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/jenkins-vs-smith-betting-terry-jenkins-can-see-off-his-good-mate-in-blackpool 3pts R.Barneveld (-4.5 legs) to beat M.Suljovic Evs Stan James Although Barneveld’s game has just dipped a little bit I still think he’ll be way too good for Suljovic here. I like Suljovic, I think he’s a good player. He’s maybe a touch inconsistent but when he plays well he’s a threat for most players. He is likely to be outscored throughout this match though and I don’t see Barneveld missing enough doubles to let Suljovic into the match. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/barneveld-vs-suljovic-betting-barneveld-should-be-too-strong-for-the-quirky-austrian-in-blackpool 5pts J.Wade vs J.Part - Over 15.5 legs 8/11 BetVictor I don’t think there’s a lot between these two players and so I expect a very close match here. We will all remember their quarter final in the World Championship two years ago which was an absolute epic and their two matches since have both gone to deciding leg which suggests there isn’t a lot between the two. These two are well matched so this should be tight throughout. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/wade-vs-part-betting-another-classic-between-two-great-players-lies-in-store-for-the-blackpool-crowd 3pts J.Klaasen to beat S.Whitlock 2/1 Bet365 The way Klaasen is playing he is overpriced in this match, especially with the demons Simon Whitlock must carry around this place. Klaasen is scoring very heavily and if there is a weakness in Whitlock’s game it is that he can hit flat spots in his scoring, especially over the longer format. Although Whitlock made the final of the European Championship he should’ve lost in the quarter final but he can lose in the first round of this tournament for the second year in a row. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/whitlock-vs-klaasen-betting-jelle-klaasen-can-continue-whitlock-s-misery-at-blackpool

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July Sunday afternoon previews: 4pts J.Pipe (-2.5 legs) to beat M.Webster 5/4 Bet365 Justin Pipe is a tough player to play against and an even tougher player to beat. His slow style means it is hard for his opponents to get a rhythm going while his consistent scoring means his throw is hard to break and he is always threatening your throw. Webster looks a pale shadow of the man who won the BDO World Championship and with that form showing no signs of a return I expect Pipe to win this with a bit in hand. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/pipe-vs-webster-betting-justin-pipe-should-come-past-an-out-of-sorts-webster-in-blackpool-opener 4pts K.Painter vs J.Lewis - Over 6.5 180's 8/11 Skybet Kevin Painter should win this match but given his relatively poor record in the tournament I’m in no hurry to take a small price about him. One bet which does appeal is the over 6.5 180s. Lewis bangs in a lot of 180’s, as the young brigade do these days, while Painter is no stranger to the red bit either. There is every chance we’ll see a few legs in this match so there should be plenty of time for at least 7 180s Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/painter-vs-j-lewis-betting-there-should-be-plenty-of-maximums-between-these-two 4pts K.Huybrechts vs P.Wright - Over 16.5 legs 10/11 Skybet This has all the makings of being one of the matches of the tournament. Both men are very good and are in very good form and it is hard to separate the two. I wouldn’t be at all surprised were this one to need more than the scheduled 19 legs but whatever happens I find it hard to believe it will be won any easier than 10-7 either way so the over 16.5 legs looks good to me. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/k-huybrechts-vs-wright-betting-this-one-could-be-the-closest-match-of-the-first-round 4pts S.Beaton to beat B.Dolan 11/10 Skybet I’m not a huge Brendan Dolan fan and I can’t be backing him at odds against in this match. Beaton is still good enough to beat the likes of Dolan even if the top players in the game are too strong for him. Beaton’s scoring should be too good for Dolan here but even if it isn’t the Irishman is often guilty of crucial misses on the doubles so at odds against Beaton is the call here. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/dolan-vs-beaton-betting-steve-beaton-can-be-too-consistent-for-dolan-in-the-matchplay

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July 5pts T.Jenkins -2.5 games to beat A.Smith 2.20 Bet365 These 2 played eachother in the UK Open qualifier this year and Terry Jenkins come out a 6-2 winner. The head-2-head is 6-3 Jenkins. 5 of those 6 wins would of won on a -2.5 handicap and not one of those matches was a "first to 10" like this one is so this seems like a gift of a price to me. 2.5pts J.Klaasen to beat S.Whitlock 2.75 Bet365 Klaasen is on some great form right now and Whitlock tends to let his mind wander sometimes. The head-2-head favours Whitlock but I think we can see an upset here. Klaasen has beaten Whitlock before and if he brings the form he had in the last tournament here then he should win.

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July Great song indeed: Planet Funk - Chase The Sun

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July Where are you finding the stream guys? *nvm. I just see SS1. Thx

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July http://firstrowuk.eu/watch/196730/1/watch-pdc-world-matchplay-darts---day-2.html here Fader :)

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July 3pts J.Cavern to beat W.Newton 2.00 Bet365 Cavern holds a 8-6 lead on Newton and recently his form has been very impressive. In the European Championships he smashed Chisnall 6-0 and then dismantled james wade 10-2 before being pipped to the post by Whitlock 10-9 but he could of easily won that match and gone on to win the tournament. Wes isn't in the best of forms recently going out of the European to Klaasen & PDC European Tour to Suljovic. Cavern should come through 1.5pts R.Hybrechts to beat A.Lewis 5.50 Bet365 Ronnie had a very good European Championship beating Taylor & Thornton and if he can rise to the challenge of beating Taylor he can sure as hell beat Lewis. Lewis is always going to give his opponent chances and he looked on form the in the european getting to the final to lose to Whitlock, but in the early round he did look like he was struggling against Suljovic and he could give Ronnie chances.

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July Monday night previews: 4pts R.Thornton vs I.White - Over 8.5 180's 11/10 BetVictor These two players are both heavy scorers and given that I think we’ll see a few legs in this game I think the over 8.5 180’s line is well within reach. Over this sort of distance, Thornton is usually good for 5 or 6 at least while White can paste the lipstick when he gets going too. Given how prolific they are at scoring I like the look of a lot of 180’s here. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/thornton-vs-white-betting-two-heavy-scorers-should-produce-plenty-of-maximums 4pts J.Caven to beat W.Newton 11/10 Ladbrokes Caven looks to have a good chance in this match. Newton has never really convinced me on this stage and sometimes it can be hard playing in front of a local crowd. Caven doesn’t have that problem and you only have to look at him to know he is brimming with confidence at the minute. Clearly this will be a tough test for him but it is one I think he can overcome. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/newton-vs-caven-betting-jamie-caven-can-continue-his-good-recent-form-with-win-over-newton 4pts A.Lewis vs R.Huybrechts - Over 8.5 180's 5/6 Coral This has the makings of being a bit closer than it looks on paper but over this distance there’s the slight chance Lewis could run away with it. One thing I fully expect to see here is plenty of 180’s. Huybrechts can find his way to the red bit while Lewis barely misses it when he is on song so I would expect to see lots of maximums here, and enough to cover an 8.5 line. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/lewis-vs-r-huybrechts-betting-these-two-should-provide-plenty-of-180s-in-blackpool-opener 4pts A.Hamilton vs R.Baxter - Over 16.5 legs Evs Coral This looks like having the potential to be a very close match. Both men looked in good touch in the UK Open and both players clearly enjoy playing in Blackpool with both having good records here. I always think these two are two of the better throw holders in the game given how well they score and how solid they both are. With that in mind I expect this one to end no wider than 10-7 either way. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/hamilton-vs-baxter-betting-blackpool-veterans-can-play-out-tight-first-round-match

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July Tuesday previews: 4pts J.Pipe (+3.5 legs) to beat R.Barneveld Evs Paddy Power I think this will be a much closer match than the odds suggest and the one thing we must take into account in this match is the heat. Barneveld is going to be standing doing nothing for a fair while in this match and that could be quite draining. Pipe is a very fit man and won’t have that issue so I think he can push Barneveld all the way. He’s won their last two meetings so we know he doesn’t fear Barneveld so he’s a good bet to reach double figures here. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/barneveld-vs-pipe-betting-justin-pipe-can-run-barneveld-close-in-second-round-match 4pts S.Whitlock (-2.5 legs) to beat K.Painter 4/5 Bet365 Simon Whitlock isn’t always the most trustworthy from the front but he looks in good enough form to win this with a bit to spare. Whitlock made the final in Germany a couple of weeks ago and you just sense Painter is 5-10% off his top game at the minute. Throw in the history he’s had in Blackpool and I think this one is Whitlock’s to lose. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/whitlock-vs-painter-betting-simon-whitlock-should-be-too-good-for-painter-in-blackpool 4pts T.Jenkins (+6.5 legs) to beat P.Taylor 5/6 BetVictor The odds on Taylor in this match are pretty insulting really. Jenkins has dropped off over the last couple of years but he’s shown signs at times in 2013 that his form is coming back and he always plays well on the big stage. Unlike Kellett the other night, Jenkins won’t be beaten before he gets on stage and while I don’t think he’ll quite be good enough to beat Taylor I certainly think he can score well enough to win seven legs. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/taylor-vs-jenkins-betting-terry-jenkins-can-push-taylor-close-at-blackpool-once-again 4pts G.Anderson to beat J.Wade 13/8 Bet365 Wade has only won three of the last 12 meetings between these two which when you consider many came at a time when the Englishman was the second best player in the world, is quite a surprising statistic. The main reason for that will be the devastating scoring power of Anderson which Wade just can’t live with. That scoring will get Anderson so many chances at a double and if he checks out like he did against King he’ll win this. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/wade-vs-anderson-betting-gary-anderson-has-the-beating-of-james-wade-if-he-checks-out-strongly

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July James Wade to beat Gary Anderson 1.57 bet365 James Wade to beat Gary Anderson -2.5 legs 2.10 bet365 James Wade has defeated Gary Anderson in their last 2 TV meetings in the Premier League 7-3 and 8-3 with Anderson winning a Championship League Group Stage match in between these games 6-5. Both averaged 97 in their victories over the weekend with Wade having a checkout % of 45% and Anderson 53% which is unusually high for the Scotsman. Anderson tends to miss a barrel load of doubles on TV and Wade knows he can slow the pace of the game down to frustrate Anderson. Andersons TV record in the last 18 months has been extremely poor for someone of his talent including finishing bottom in the premier league for 2 consecutive years and exiting the UK open in the last 32 twice. His best performance was a quarter final in the players championship. Wade has 3 finals, 1 semi final and 1 quarter final to his name in the world matchplay over the last 5 years so he clearly loves the venue and I see no reason as to why he shouldn't proceed to the quarter finals tonight.

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July Wednesday night previews: 4pts A.Hamilton (-3.5 legs) to beat I.White 11/10 Bet365 This should be a good, solid match with high scoring and high finishing but when push comes to shove I expect Hamilton to wear White down over this distance. Hamilton has shown in big tournaments that he can keep his form up throughout the longer matches. That’s something White is yet to prove so over this length of match I think Hamilton will pull away in the closing stages for a comfortable win. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/hamilton-vs-white-betting-andy-hamilton-should-be-too-strong-for-white-over-this-distance 4pts A.Lewis vs B.Dolan - Over 20.5 legs 5/6 Skybet Usually I’d expect Adrian Lewis to win this match but he clearly got frustrated with the slower pace of Ronny Huybrechts in the first round and that’s likely to happen again here too. If Lewis plays like he did in Germany recently he’ll run away with this but that form hasn’t been seen elsewhere which would be a concern. I still think the two time world champion will win but Dolan’s pace and canniness can keep him close. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/lewis-vs-dolan-betting-adrian-lewis-could-have-another-long-night-on-the-blackpool-stage 4pts M.van Gerwen vs P.Wright - Over 20.5 legs 4/5 William Hill I can’t wait for this match. I don’t think Peter Wright will be making any ill informed comments ahead of this match like he did in the World Championship but he doesn’t need to. His darts are doing plenty of talking for him. Michael van Gerwen continues to blaze a trail through any tournament so we’re all set for a belter here. You’d think MVG will win but if he misses some doubles at the wrong time Wright is more than good enough to take him out. Either way this one will be close. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/van-gerwen-vs-wright-betting-two-of-the-form-players-at-the-minute-should-play-out-a-tight-tussle 6pts J.Caven to beat D.Chisnall 10/11 Ladbrokes Even ignoring the fact that Caven humped Chisnall 6-0 two weeks ago I think he’s an excellent bet here. I was so impressed with the way he found his game and powered away in the closing stages against Newton when often most players are trying too hard and drop by 5%. That’s the sign of a classy player who is very happy with his game. Chisnall can’t be happy with his and unless he finds it quickly he’ll be heading back to St Helens pretty sharpish. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/caven-vs-chisnall-betting-jamie-caven-can-see-off-chisnall-for-the-second-time-in-two-weeks

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July darts preview tonight : 2pts J.Pipe to beat Van Barneveld 3.75 Bet365 Not enough respect being shown to Pipe here. He done well here last year and he can give Barney problems. Kev is right with regards to the heat up there. Anderson has already said what a problem it is for certain players and that, the head-2-head which actually favours Pipe & him slowing the game down could well equate to a Pipe win. 3pts S.Whitlock -2.5 legs to beat K.Painter 1.72 Bet365 Whitlock is hitting some good form right now winning recently the euro championships. He has also started off brightly here though, beating the in-form Klaasen with a 95 average. I think he should beat Painter with the minimal of fuss here. Painter beat Jamie Lewis but Lewis wasn't up for that match and a 91 average wont cut it here. 2pts G.Anderson to beat J.Wade 2.37 Bet365 Anderson looked very sharp against Merv King and run away with it. He hit the big numbers as usual and also kept steady with the doubles and if he can produce the same quality tonight then I don't think Wade can beat him. It's devastating when Anderson is on form.

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July 2.5pts A.Hamilton Vs I.White [Over 10.5 180's] 1.80 Bet365 Both of these 2 hit plenty of 180's. White only played 13 legs and managed 4 180's. Hamilton played even less, 11 legs and managed 3 180's. I'd be surprised if they don't get this in a "first-to-13" and get less than 11. I think Hamilton will win this, but there should be atleast 20-22 legs here. 5.5pts J.Cavern to beat D.Chisnall 1.72 Bet365 2pts J.Cavern -2.5 games to beat D.Chisnall 2.50 Bet365 Cavern should such strength to beat Newton. Newton had a 7pt higher average but he dug deep to win and I think he will get his rewards by going deep in this tournament. He should beat Chisnall who didn't look outstanding against Nicholson. I think Cavern will improve here too whilst Chisnall I don't think he will. These 2 have met 8 times and Cavern leads 6-2 and beat him 6-0 recently. You only need to look at Thornton's performance to see that players don't forget them.

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Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July I genuinely never learn and I'm so disappointed with myself. I've vowed before not to bet on 'bottlers' like Gary Anderson and Raymond Van Barneveld again and there I was again tonight with big money on Anderson. You can't rely on these types of players and the odds only take into account their ability and not the chances of them bottling it. I think we should stick to players like Wade or Whitlock who will give all until the very end. (I don't mean that based on tonight's results, those 4 players were just the best examples I could think of. Andy Hamilton is another good example of a 'trier.') I don't see the point in betting on Barney or Anderson again when there is always the chance of their bottle crashing.

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5.5pts J.Cavern to beat D.Chisnall 1.72 Bet365 2pts J.Cavern -2.5 games to beat D.Chisnall 2.50 Bet365 Cavern should such strength to beat Newton. Newton had a 7pt higher average but he dug deep to win and I think he will get his rewards by going deep in this tournament. He should beat Chisnall who didn't look outstanding against Nicholson. I think Cavern will improve here too whilst Chisnall I don't think he will. These 2 have met 8 times and Cavern leads 6-2 and beat him 6-0 recently. You only need to look at Thornton's performance to see that players don't forget them.

I thought his name was Jamie CAVEN, not Cavern?

[BenBash91]

Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July Talking about last night, imo Anderson at 2.4 was a better investment than Wade at 1.6 - Ok we might've preferred best of 19 instead of best of 25, but the odds more than compensated for that. Wade didnt look brilliant in the first round and Anderson looked like his former self. RVB has problems with beating himself up and is occasionally a culprit of losing a match before it has even started. That being said, Pipe played one of the best of his career and even then it was close. I dont understand how you can call a world champion (beat the greatest ever in the final) a 'bottler'. Let alone RVB who would be double world champ if he didnt meet Taylor averaging 111. I can see your frustration from last night (I myself had money on Anderson) but I wouldnt consider either of these two a 'bottler'

[TheresNoLimit]

Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July

Talking about last night, imo Anderson at 2.4 was a better investment than Wade at 1.6 - Ok we might've preferred best of 19 instead of best of 25, but the odds more than compensated for that. Wade didnt look brilliant in the first round and Anderson looked like his former self. RVB has problems with beating himself up and is occasionally a culprit of losing a match before it has even started. That being said, Pipe played one of the best of his career and even then it was close. I dont understand how you can call a world champion (beat the greatest ever in the final) a 'bottler'. Let alone RVB who would be double world champ if he didnt meet Taylor averaging 111. I can see your frustration from last night (I myself had money on Anderson) but I wouldnt consider either of these two a 'bottler'

Are you serious? They're the two biggest bottlers/chokers I can think of, certainly in terms of the top ranked players. I'm sure plenty of people on here would back that up. As the odds don't account for these games when they can bottle it then I have to remember in future to avoid betting on this pair in particular.

[BenBash91]

Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July

Are you serious? They're the two biggest bottlers/chokers I can think of' date=' certainly in terms of the top ranked players. I'm sure plenty of people on here would back that up. As the odds don't account for these games when they can bottle it then I have to remember in future to avoid betting on this pair in particular.[/quote'] Just a matter of opinion. Imo Anderson last night was an insta bet at 2.4, if youre happier back Wade in that contest at 1.6 then thats up to you. As for me, its not my kind of thing.

[Crushingthebookie]

Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July Chisnal to bottle it here, as usual

[TheresNoLimit]

Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July

Chisnal to bottle it here' date=' as usual[/quote'] He did but then Caven managed to out-bottle him. Unbelievable and I'm finding it pretty difficult to even think about the amount of money I've been cost by players throwing away leads in the last 2 nights. A 13-10 defeat from 10-7 up is pretty embarrassing. He had Chisnall on toast there. It may now be time to stick darts on the list of sports that aren't worth betting on because I'm not sure how to begin to analyse a game like that from a betting point of view. If anyone has anything to offer in terms of analysis of that match, I'd be very interested to hear it because I'm completely baffled.

[kevshat]

Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July [TABLE=class: couponTable]

[TR] [TH][/TH] [TH=class: firstColumn]Thursday 25 July 2013[/TH] [TH]Player 1 [/TH] [TH]Player 2[/TH] [TH=class: bppWidth]BPP[/TH] [TH] [/TH] [/TR] [TR=class: row0] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn] Taylor, P v Pipe, J (19:00 BST) [/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd] 1.12 [/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd] 10 [/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp]98.89 %[/TD] [TD=class: tvListings][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR=class: row1] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn] Whitlock, S v Wade, J (20:00 BST) [/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd] 2.42 [/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd] 1.68 [/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp]100.85 %[/TD] [TD=class: tvListings][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR] [TH] [/TH] [TH=class: firstColumn]Friday 26 July 2013[/TH] [TH]Player 1 [/TH] [TH]Player 2[/TH] [TH=class: bppWidth]BPP[/TH] [TH] [/TH] [/TR] [TR=class: row0] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn] Lewis, A v Hamilton, A (19:00 BST) [/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd] 1.62 [/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd] 2.37 [/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp]103.83 %[/TD] [TD=class: tvListings][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [/TR] [TR=class: row1] [TD][/TD] [TD=class: firstColumn] Van Gerwen, M v Chisnall, D (20:30 BST) [/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd] 1.17 [/TD] [TD=class: selectionBestOdd] 5.5 [/TD] [TD=class: bppWidth bpp]103.65 %[/TD] [TD=class: tvListings][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

[kevshat]

Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July Thursday previews: 4pts J.Pipe (+7.5 legs) to beat P.Taylor 9/10 Boylesports Phil Taylor is widely expected to win this match but I’m not convinced he’ll have it all his own way. We all know that Pipe is unique with his style and Taylor has struggled against slow players like Dennis Priestley, Brendan Dolan and even Ronny Huybrechts in the European Championship. Pipe is slower than all of them so that could be a major factor and something which I expect to guide Pipe to at least nine legs and then who knows how many more. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/pipe-vs-taylor-betting-justin-pipe-s-slow-style-can-cause-taylor-problems-in-the-matchplay 4pts S.Whitlock vs J.Wade - Over 27.5 legs Evs Skybet I think this will be a really close quarter final between two fairly evenly matched players who are both playing well. I wouldn’t actually be surprised if this one goes into sudden death but I find it hard to believe either will run away from the other in this match. Wade scored very heavily in the last round and if he does that here I think he’ll win eventually but not before we’ve seen at least 28 legs. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/wade-vs-whitlock-betting-second-quarter-final-looks-like-being-tight-throughout

[TheresNoLimit]

Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July I think that IS me done with darts betting now. I took Justin Pipe at 15/2 to beat Taylor and whilst I didn't think it would be an easy bet to come in, Pipe really didn't help himself. The leg-in-the-air lunges/snatches on his last dart I could live with. The refusal to switch to treble 19, when blocking the treble 20 bed with the first dart I could live with. What I couldn't live with however was the unprofessional and farcical routes to a finish that he took on several occasions (leaving double 14 when completely unnecessary and also throwing at treble 20 when left with 78 and one dart in hand.) We can't expect the players to hit every treble or double they go for but the least we can expect is that they attempt their score in a professional and most-efficient manner. I can't throw a dart to save myself but even I can do the correct counting. That's just a basic.

[kevshat]

Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July Pipe's favourite double is D14 and given that D9 is right next to it I'd say they were 2 perfectly reasonable ways to go. If you're going to criticise someone you'd at least be better off knowing the person you're criticising. He won the D14 leg too so not really sure what the issue is there. He gave it everything he had but ran into the best there's been on a night he was near his best. Against literally anyone else Pipe would've led 5-0 and been away and gone.

[TheresNoLimit]

Re: World Matchplay - 20-28 July

Pipe's favourite double is D14 and given that D9 is right next to it I'd say they were 2 perfectly reasonable ways to go. If you're going to criticise someone you'd at least be better off knowing the person you're criticising. He won the D14 leg too so not really sure what the issue is there. He gave it everything he had but ran into the best there's been on a night he was near his best. Against literally anyone else Pipe would've led 5-0 and been away and gone.

Come on Kev, I think you're defending the indefensible here. It's all very well having a 'favourite double' but you still have to play the percentage shots and leave yourself doubles which 'split' nicely. In the long run, leaving double 14 or double 9 is just causing yourself trouble. There are plenty of current top players who used to have double 18 as their 'favourite double' but have all moved away from leaving that as it isn't a viable percentage shot in the modern PDC game. We saw the professionalism of Wade in hitting two treble 20s on a 170 checkout and then hitting 10 to set up tops rather than going for the bull, because Whitlock wasn't on a finish. Those are the sort of correct percentage shots the modern professionals should be playing - despite pundits like John Part or Eric Bristow perhaps suggesting otherwise - and that was in complete contrast to the amateurish behaviour of Pipe in trying to leave double 14 or double 9.